Fox News Reporter: Occupy Protestor Threatened to Stab Me in the Throat

[FrankRep]

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/threat-270x166.jpg


Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted At OWS (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/fox-5-news-reporter-assaulted-at-ows-20111028-KC)


My Fox NY
October 28, 2011


A protester, angered by the presence of a news crew inside Zuccotti Park Friday morning, threatened to stab Fox 5 News reporter John Huddy.

What has been an otherwise violence-free period during his six weeks covering the Occupy Wall Street movement, took a turn for John Huddy. He explained what happened during Good Day New York:

"This is somebody I've come across several times for the last few days. He threatened to stab me in the throat with a pen. He ripped the mic out of my hand," said Huddy.

"I have a meeting with Bloomberg," said the incoherent protester. The man was soon arrested by the NYPD.

Huddy had gone into the park to find out what protesters were doing to fight the significant drop in temperatures.
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SOURCE:
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/fox-5-news-reporter-assaulted-at-ows-20111028-KC

[dannno]

Huddy had gone into the park to find out what protesters were doing to fight the significant drop in temperatures.


Obviously they are converting cop and right-wing journalist blood into energy and running heaters out there.

[FrankRep]

Obviously they are converting cop and right-wing journalist blood into energy and running heaters out there.

Flyer Found at Occupy Phoenix Ponders: ‘When Should You Shoot A Cop?’ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/alleged-flyer-at-occupy-phoenix-ponders-when-should-you-shoot-a-cop/)

The Blaze
October 28, 2011

A disturbing flyer is making its way around the Occupy Phoenix camp. And it’s targeting cops.

Yesterday, the Arizona Counter-Terrorism Information Center (ACTIC — a division of the Arizona Dept. of Public Safety) released a bulletin announcing (http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/3359/10/3359_1319803351.pdf) the chilling document that seems to endorse and justify the killing of law enforcement officers.


http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-shot-2011-10-28-at-8.46.39-AM.png (http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/3359/10/3359_1319803351.pdf)

[pcosmar]

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That is a very good question.

You really do NOT want to hear the correct answer.

[FrankRep]

That is a very good question.

You really do NOT want to hear the correct answer.
You support shooting police officers now?

[dannno]

^Can you read the PDF they posted on that site? I downloaded it and it won't open on my system for some reason.

If I wasn't doing anything wrong, I didn't have any weapons on me and a cop discharged his weapon at me for no reason and missed and then went to re-load, if I couldn't get away and I had access to a weapon around me somewhere I'd probably shoot them if it was necessary to avoid being shot after the re-load. It would be considered self defense, right?

[pcosmar]

You support shooting police officers now?

I support self defense. Regardless of who. Being a police officer is irrelevant.
An assault by an armed person is grounds to shoot that person.

Would you like some case law?
http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.txt

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting
officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This
premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the
case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the
officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally
accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with
very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right
to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What
may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter
in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been
committed.”

“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without
affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction,
and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the
arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will
be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111.
491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v.
Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau,
241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.

“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right
to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by
force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense,
his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80;
Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.

“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an
arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by
the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private
individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State,
26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State,
43 Tex. 93, 903.

“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to
be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in
defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and
battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).

“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case,
the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer
and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v.
Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).

“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as
he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus
it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an
officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without
resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In
his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which
the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various
branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be
no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the
Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded,
‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by
human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in
extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous
injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford
University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the
case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.

As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable,
and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of
the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the
peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy
v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)

The Police SHOULD NOT EXIST.
They are an Authoritarian construct that has no place in a free society.

http://www.constitution.org/lrev/roots/cops.htm

[zach]

Violence is heating up. You can only stay peaceful for so long, and I'm starting to think that this is some experiment to see who puts up with what for the most amount of time.

[pcosmar]

Violence is heating up. You can only stay peaceful for so long, and I'm starting to think that this is some experiment to see who puts up with what for the most amount of time.

We have put up with far too much for far too long, in my opinion.

I have been expecting violence to erupt,, initiated by government forces.

Unfortunately,, I expect the violence in response to be misdirected and ineffective.

[pcosmar]

As far as the Fox reporter,, he went looking for trouble and found some.

Very much like someone walking into a biker bar with a sign the says "Harley Sucks".

Just how many folks get mugged in New York on any given day?

[Becker]

Flyer Found at Occupy Phoenix Ponders: ‘When Should You Shoot A Cop?’ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/alleged-flyer-at-occupy-phoenix-ponders-when-should-you-shoot-a-cop/)

The Blaze
October 28, 2011

A disturbing flyer is making its way around the Occupy Phoenix camp. And it’s targeting cops.

Yesterday, the Arizona Counter-Terrorism Information Center (ACTIC — a division of the Arizona Dept. of Public Safety) released a bulletin announcing (http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/3359/10/3359_1319803351.pdf) the chilling document that seems to endorse and justify the killing of law enforcement officers.


http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-shot-2011-10-28-at-8.46.39-AM.png (http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/3359/10/3359_1319803351.pdf)

you act like our found fathers were pacifists who gave into threat of force.

and we can always count on Frankrep to take things out of context. Note at the bottom "no credible or specific threats".

[Becker]

As far as the Fox reporter,, he went looking for trouble and found some.

Very much like someone walking into a biker bar with a sign the says "Harley Sucks".

Just how many folks get mugged in New York on any given day?

exactly. Nobody asked him to be there, even if he "had a right to".

[Becker]

You support shooting police officers now?

you support never ever shooting at officers?

[pcosmar]

exactly. Nobody asked him to be there, even if he "had a right to".

If he wanted a story it would have been wise to leave the Fox News Signs and paraphernalia elsewhere,, and just talk to folks.

[Becker]

If he wanted a story it would have been wise to leave the Fox News Signs and paraphernalia elsewhere,, and just talk to folks.

exactly, it wouldnt be fraud, and nothing illegal. he wouldnt be ratting on anybody undercover, and who cares if people complain about his decoy later on, the interview is done, and anybody stupid enough to speak of anything illegal on camera, will be take care of. there's no benefit to him looking official and provocative, knowing the crowd.

[FrankRep]

If he wanted a story it would have been wise to leave the Fox News Signs and paraphernalia elsewhere,, and just talk to folks.
Reporters shouldn't honest about who they work for? Sounds silly.

Word of advice: Don't tell a News reporter you want to stab them in the throat. The new story won't end well.

[Becker]

Reporters shouldn't honest about who they work for? Sounds silly.

Word of advice: Don't tell a News reporter you want to stab them in the throat. The new story won't end well.

glad we agree, don't be stupid, don't say stupid things. No matter who you are.

[JK/SEA]

The SPLC is sure quiet these days.

Just a random thought. Carry on.

[Johnny Appleseed]

They don't want the protesters catching fire that would take away all the fun of beating them.

[PaulConventionWV]

^Can you read the PDF they posted on that site? I downloaded it and it won't open on my system for some reason.

If I wasn't doing anything wrong, I didn't have any weapons on me and a cop discharged his weapon at me for no reason and missed and then went to re-load, if I couldn't get away and I had access to a weapon around me somewhere I'd probably shoot them if it was necessary to avoid being shot after the re-load. It would be considered self defense, right?

Yeah, those cops, always trying to shoot you with their muzzle-loaders and then just standing there for 10 minutes to reload as you reach for your sem-automatic pistol.

[Anti Federalist]

You support shooting police officers now?

That article has been posted here on RPF long before OWS was even thought of.

It is written from a scholarly and legal perspective on just when armed resistance against unjust police powers and unlawful arrest is justified.

Which it is, of course.

Google: Mary Ann Godboldo

[Anti Federalist]

Here's the original post from CopBlock from back in June.

http://www.copblock.org/5475/when-should-you-shoot-a-cop/


In an ideal world, cops would do nothing except protect people from thieves and attackers, in which case shooting a cop would never be justified. In the real world, however, far more injustice, violence, torture, theft, and outright murder has been committed IN THE NAME of “law enforcement,” than has been committed in spite of it. To get a little perspective, try watching a documentary or two about some of the atrocities committed by the regimes of Stalin, or Lenin, or Chairman Mao, or Hitler, or Pol Pot, or any number of other tyrants in history. Pause the film when the jackboots are about to herd innocent people into cattle cars, or gun them down as they stand on the edge of a ditch, and THEN ask yourself the question, “When should you shoot a cop?” Keep in mind, the evils of those regimes were committed in the name of “law enforcement.” And as much as the statement may make people cringe, the history of the human race would have been a lot LESS gruesome if there had been a lot MORE “cop-killers” around to deal with the state mercenaries of those regimes.

[Jingles]

The Marxist types in occupy wall street will have no qualms about rioting/destroying property/using violence/etc... Is that the whole movement? No, but people tend to fall into fight or flight mode if there is a spark that ignites it. Of course the police brutality is unjustified as well. This is why I get so confused why some Libertarians want to get involved. Well, I do get why, but its not us or the majority of the people there that I'm worried about. Its the revolutionary leftists that I do worry about and with them involved, with the nature of people in general, the police brutality, etc... This is just a perfect storm waiting to happen.

If something does happen I don't want Libertarianism and Ron Paul to be associated with rioting/looting/etc... The crackdowns are getting harsher around the country. I feel like something is going to happen with this soon. I say get out while we can. I am very cynical, I know, but something in my gut is telling me this isn't going to be pretty.

I don't know, I've just been getting really bad feelings about this movement lately with all the stuff that has happened recently with Boston, Oakland, that veteran who was killed, etc...

[Anti Federalist]

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[GuerrillaXXI]

SUPERB commentary at that Copblock site.

A mortal man doesn't become sacred just because he puts on a badge and assumes the mantle of state authority. People have the right to shoot cops under the same circumstances it would be legitimate to shoot anyone else: when they force your hand by wrongfully threatening someone's life or essential liberty.

[pcosmar]

I don't know, I've just been getting really bad feelings about this movement lately with all the stuff that has happened recently with Boston, Oakland, that veteran who was killed, etc...

Police violence is expected. The Veteran is recovering, and his attacker has been identified as Scott Bergstresser

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3yAU1RXyfy0/TqtcFjUoYSI/AAAAAAAAdV4/njxu_UK5ddM/s640/Bergestresser+and+Aparicio+censored+news.jpg

http://www.indiepundit.com/2011/10/29/iraq-war-vet-scott-olsen-police-shooter-identified-by-anonymous/

[VoluntaryAmerican]

You support shooting police officers now?

Having a fancy badge does not mean I will end you if you attack my family or myself.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

SUPERB commentary at that Copblock site.

A mortal man doesn't become sacred just because he puts on a badge and assumes the mantle of state authority. People have the right to shoot cops under the same circumstances it would be legitimate to shoot anyone else: when they force your hand by wrongfully threatening someone's life or essential liberty.

Exactly.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GuerrillaXXI again

[Anti Federalist]

The SPLC is sure quiet these days.

Just a random thought. Carry on.

No shit.

Nice catch.

[Bosco Warden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkM7cdMgcEc

[FrankRep]

That's JT Ready (https://www.google.com/search?q=JT+Ready+nazi).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkM7cdMgcEc

[mrsat_98]

"This is somebody I've come across several times for the last few days. He threatened to stab me in the throat with a pen. He ripped the mic out of my hand," said Huddy.

The reporter has it all wrong, John Hinkley has been released and he has set his sites on Juliet Huddy just trying to to get hubby out of the picture.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_F-2ybd60FlE/ScopvUj7-UI/AAAAAAAAJCM/AXApH27cu68/s400/juliet+huddy+2+hot.jpg




You support shooting police officers now?

For the record I have supported it in the past and have been documented (http://www.fox16.com/news/story/Homeowner-I-shot-police-officer-in-self-defense/GySFZzUQukiYdY9fxIWZEw.cspx)bringing the press to promote it in the past.



Violence is heating up. You can only stay peaceful for so long, and I'm starting to think that this is some experiment to see who puts up with what for the most amount of time.

They, TPTB, are racheting things up waiting for someone to get stupid to blame it on.