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Immortal Technique
10-26-2011, 05:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrNrbHtOHf4

Airing Date Oct.26, 2011

Ron Paul Enters A Den Of Vipers, Interview With Fox "All Stars"

Ron PAUL Extra CENTER SEAT Special 10/26/2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUyP7b-pt3Q

Miss Annie
10-26-2011, 06:01 PM
I watched it! He was wonderful, as to be expected! :) More than half of the people on the side bar chat thingy were agreeing with that fact and cheering him on,... especially after he named the person he would put in charge of the Federal Reserve! :)
He definitely shined!

acptulsa
10-26-2011, 06:04 PM
Is this country a prison?

I wish he had said, well, gee, Charlie, we have a larger percentage of our population in prison than any other 'civilized' nation...

Otherwise just outstanding. He ripped neoconism a new one, and you could see it on their faces. Especially Krauthammer. He whipped out his viper teeth, and Ron Paul used them to open a can of worms. And he knew it was going to happen. You could see him thinking even as they played that debate clip that shizakampf was thinking, oh no, I'm not going to be able to do a thing about this...

And the moron beyond Juan Williams thinking, well, I'll just interrupt him and reask the same question three times and he'll get flustered. No chance. It was funny watching Juan Williams sitting there thinking, yeah, like that's going to work. He already told you to let him finish and he's going to make you let him finish, idiot.

The only complaint I can come up with is at the beginning, I wish he'd told those vipers that we came up with the name of the moneybomb, not him. Credit where credit is due, Ron. I'm not saying he was trying to steal credit for our idea, I'm saying he was trying to deflect blame from us to himself. We don't want that, sir. We have broad shoulders. We'd rather be the bad guys than have you be the bad guy a thousand times over. Blame us. Please. Just say, 'My supporters are American people with the right to free speech, and that's what they called it, and why would you think I'd say they shouldn't?' It's not your job to whine about the treatment you get, it's ours. Let us have the full credit and blame. We want it.

Besides, they're trying awfully hard to paint you as the same as them, and by refusing to deflect any criticism of what we name the moneybombs onto us, you play into their hands. These are not top down efforts, and it isn't big corporations paying for your little airplanes, and it does both you and us a disservice to let anyone out there think otherwise.

As for them boasting about how much they've had him on, 98% of it was on Fox Business, 98% of that had nothing to do with government beyond monetary policy, foreign policy or his campaign, 99 44/100% of it didn't go out over the airwaves where senior citizens could have a chance to hear him (and say, 'By God that's right, I remember when it was that way and things worked better back then'), and don't any of you let any Fox lovers spin it to you and differently.

Feeding the Abscess
10-26-2011, 06:18 PM
No fence

Anti-sanction

Pro-peace

Beautiful segment indeed.

Sola_Fide
10-26-2011, 06:19 PM
Why are people saying Ron did bad? I thought he did great!

Feeding the Abscess
10-26-2011, 06:21 PM
Why are people saying Ron did bad? I thought he did great!

They're pessimistic

Bordillo
10-26-2011, 06:37 PM
ron looked and sounded unsure of himself. Krauthammer is just a zeionist crippled pig, Ron was stuttering a lot and it seemed like he was afraid of making his bold statements.

GeorgiaAvenger
10-26-2011, 06:39 PM
Handled Krauthhammer well.

Immortal Technique
10-26-2011, 06:40 PM
added Ron PAUL Extra CENTER SEAT Special 10/26/2011

ItsTime
10-26-2011, 06:41 PM
ron looked and sounded unsure of himself. Krauthammer is just a zeionist crippled pig, Ron was stuttering a lot and it seemed like he was afraid of making his bold statements.

lmao, he sounded like he was trying to dumb it down for the morons he was around. He did awesome.

TCE
10-26-2011, 06:41 PM
Charles knew he scored with his fence point. I'm sure Ron wishes he could have that comment from the debate back, but it is what it is and it won't determine his fate. Would have liked Juan Williams to get another question in but overall, Ron did fine.

People on the forums section themselves off into three groups whenever Ron makes any kind of major appearance: 1. The World is Ending, he did terribly 2. He did amazingly and this could be a real game changer 3. Somewhere in the middle. Naturally, the first two groups are the loudest. Everyone should make up their own mind but it is nice to have a bunch of different opinions.

Cutlerzzz
10-26-2011, 06:45 PM
Pretty meh if you ask me.

TCE
10-26-2011, 06:51 PM
Pretty meh if you ask me.

It wasn't a world-beating performance by any stretch, but in that format, it is somewhat difficult to make a serious impact to the good with two or three people attacking all of your positions. This won't hurt him and it showed he is intelligent on the issues if nothing else.

sailingaway
10-26-2011, 06:52 PM
Gee, I wonder who named that video?

Feeding the Abscess
10-26-2011, 07:04 PM
Pretty meh if you ask me.

Would have been nice if the online portion was the aired version. But hey, what can you do.

eduardo89
10-26-2011, 07:12 PM
I think he did great. He did better in the second segment though, which wasn't televised, was it? It was just online right?

Created4
10-26-2011, 07:21 PM
Would have been nice if the online portion was the aired version. But hey, what can you do.

EXACTLY! I saw the network version and they ended with those Jon Stewart clips that made Dr. Paul look like a buffoon, which I am sure was intentional. But the extra session online was phenomenal. I wish that had been aired.

Created4
10-26-2011, 07:24 PM
As for them boasting about how much they've had him on, 98% of it was on Fox Business, 98% of that had nothing to do with government beyond monetary policy, foreign policy or his campaign, 99 44/100% of it didn't go out over the airwaves where senior citizens could have a chance to hear him (and say, 'By God that's right, I remember when it was that way and things worked better back then'), and don't any of you let any Fox lovers spin it to you and differently.

Yes, I agree! And they did not compare how many times the other candidates were aired in comparison. But Cavuto (Murdoch's boy) is really starting to warm up to him.

Pericles
10-26-2011, 07:49 PM
They went after him on foreign policy on the air as that is the weal link with the "conservative" crowd. I'd say the Iran nuke policy could be framed better.

The Pax Americana of the 1990s was an aberration of history and is over. At best we can influence other countries, but can not control them. If Iran manages to get the bomb, we can deal with it as we deal with Pakistan and others who got the bomb despite our policy that they not have one.

QueenB4Liberty
10-26-2011, 07:50 PM
I thought it was great! He stumbled a bit but overall has gotten much better.

ONUV
10-26-2011, 08:14 PM
awesome

can't wait to see cain grilled.

emazur
10-26-2011, 09:13 PM
Excellent questions and excellent answers. Probably the most informative interview I've seen Paul in a long time

wgadget
10-26-2011, 09:17 PM
Wow, AWESOME interview! I thought Ron looked like he was enjoying himself.. I didn't think he looked nervous at all.

AGRP
10-26-2011, 09:24 PM
Krauthammer wanted so badly to instruct Al-CIADA to plant WMDs on Paul so he could pre-emptively blow him to smithereens.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuefjIYKkjE

wgadget
10-26-2011, 09:32 PM
Is it just me or does Krauthammer look like an elderly plasticized Eddie Munster?

Bosco Warden
10-26-2011, 09:34 PM
This is what they do, WAR.

You have to understand what Neo Consevatisim means from the man who coined the phrase himself Irving Kristol:

In 1973, Michael Harrington coined the term "neoconservatism" to describe those liberal intellectuals and political philosophers who were disaffected with the political and cultural attitudes dominating the Democratic Party and were moving toward a new form of conservatism.[9] Intended by Harrington as a pejorative term, it was accepted by Kristol as an apt description of the ideas and policies exemplified by The Public Interest. Unlike liberals, for example, neoconservatives rejected most of the Great Society programs sponsored by Lyndon Johnson; and unlike traditional conservatives, they supported the more limited welfare state instituted by Roosevelt.
In February 1979, Kristol was featured on the cover of Esquire. The caption identified him as "the godfather of the most powerful new political force in America -- Neoconservatism".[10] That year also saw the publication of the book The Neoconservatives: The Men Who Are Changing America's Politics. Like Harrington, the author, Peter Steinfels, was critical of neoconservatism, but he was impressed by its growing political and intellectual influence. Kristol's response appeared under the title "Confessions of a True, Self-Confessed -- Perhaps the Only -- 'Neoconservative'".[11]

Neoconservatism, Kristol maintains, is not an ideology but a "persuasion", a way of thinking about politics rather than a compendium of principles and axioms.[12] It is classical rather than romantic in temperament, and practical and anti-Utopian in policy. One of Kristol's most celebrated quips defines a neoconservative as "a liberal who has been mugged by reality". As a former Trotskyist, Irving was indeed himself mugged by the "reality" of conservative philosophy and enfolded leftist policies such as a lack of objection to welfare (nanny-state) programs, international "revolution" through nation-building/militarily imposed "democracy" and application of Fabian Socialism/Keynesianism coupled with a socially conservative viewpoint. These concepts lie at the core of neoconservative philosophy to this day.[13]
That "reality", for Kristol, is a complex one. While propounding the virtues of supply-side economics as the basis for the economic growth that is "a sine qua non for the survival of a modern democracy", he also insists that any economic philosophy has to be enlarged by "political philosophy, moral philosophy, and even religious thought", which were as much the sine qua non for a modern democracy.[14]

One of his early books, Two Cheers for Capitalism, asserts that capitalism, or more precisely bourgeois capitalism, is worthy of two cheers: One cheer, because "it works, in a quite simple, material sense", by improving the conditions of people. And a second cheer, because it is "congenial to a large measure of personal liberty". These are no small achievements, he argues, and only capitalism has proved capable of providing them. But it also imposes a great "psychic burden" upon the individual and the social order as well. Because it does not meet the individual's "'existential' human needs", it creates a "spiritual malaise" that threatens the legitimacy of that social order. As much as anything else, it is the withholding of that third cheer that is the distinctive mark of neoconservatism, as Kristol understands it.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol

Bosco Warden
10-26-2011, 09:39 PM
Just look into who these guys are that these so called "neo conservatives" are, hardly conservatives. There outright communists. As I see it anyways.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki9GAE1ZKRI

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Guitarzan
10-26-2011, 09:55 PM
It was excellent. you'd never know it from reading the "official" thread. :rolleyes:

i also liked the fact that Krauthammer makes Ron look like a 50 year old.

AJ187
10-26-2011, 10:11 PM
It was excellent. you'd never know it from reading the "official" thread. :rolleyes:

i also liked the fact that Krauthammer makes Ron look like a 50 year old.

That's what the dark side does to you I guess....

Johnny Appleseed
10-26-2011, 10:15 PM
These dumbasses don't care about making this country better because they already got it good all they want to do is beat obombya...I love to see them squirm in the truth.

acptulsa
10-27-2011, 02:55 PM
These dumbasses don't care about making this country better because they already got it good all they want to do is beat obombya...I love to see them squirm in the truth.

You think any of those guys besides Ron Paul gives a fig for beating Obama? Hardly. They don't care which one of the club members wins--they just don't want someone outside the Puppet Club (such as Ron Paul) to get in there and spoil their party.

Working Poor
10-27-2011, 03:38 PM
lmao, he sounded like he was trying to dumb it down for the morons he was around. He did awesome.


My take on it too...

gmc1988
10-28-2011, 10:34 PM
You can tell that Krauthammer hates Ron's guts.