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KramerDSP
10-25-2011, 07:11 PM
Morgan went after Moore, who denied he was THAT well off and keeps boasting that "they will rue ever putting me on live TV". It's a trainwreck.

Maximilian American
10-25-2011, 07:12 PM
lol, we need a toob of this. I would love M. Moore to just have conversation with Ron Paul for an hour.

bluesc
10-25-2011, 07:18 PM
I like Piers Morgan.

KramerDSP
10-25-2011, 07:27 PM
Michael Moore goes to the audience and says "Didn't people my age pay about $1,000 a semester? Even less for the city colleges!". Audience murmurs in agreement. Moore then says "We have ignored this problem. College costs too much now! People in Europe and Canada who want to become doctors dont have to pay anything to learn about it. Doctors and Brains are needed in society (I swear he said this) and they can't do their job effectively if they are thinking "how can I make money?". Morgan cuts to a hard break.

Unbelievable. Michael Moore is a communist basically, if not a socialist at best.

bluesc
10-25-2011, 07:29 PM
Michael Moore goes to the audience and says "Didn't people my age pay about $1,000 a semester? Even less for the city colleges!". Audience murmurs in agreement. Moore then says "We have ignored this problem. College costs too much now! People in Europe and Canada who want to become doctors dont have to pay anything to learn about it. Doctors and Brains are needed in society (I swear he said this) and they can't do their job effectively if they are thinking "how can I make money?". Morgan cuts to a hard break.

Unbelievable. Michael Moore is a communist basically, if not a socialist at best.

Capitalism is only good when he gets rich. Fuck the others who are successful.

I want to punch his fat fucking face.

KramerDSP
10-25-2011, 07:32 PM
I have always said Michael Moore is fantastic when it comes to identifying problems, and equally horrific when it comes to the solutions.

See - Bowling For Columbine - That's the perfect argument for Ron Paul's foreign policy. I'm speaking of the two-minute clip where we overthrow random governments and kill thousands of people around the world. Second Amendment wise, Moore's solution was basically that the second amendment needs to go.

Sicko - YES, the system is messed up, but it's BECAUSE of government involvement, not because there isn't enough of it!

Farenheight 9/11 - Some good points there in that movie. I didn't agree with everything, though. I did agree with the theme that we are being pumped full of fear so that we consume
more.

Capitalism: A Love Story - Titled wrong. Corporatism is what he is really railing at.

Is Michael Moore a fraud shyster exploiting people? Or does he legitimately believe what he is trying to showcase as solutions in his films?

Maximilian American
10-25-2011, 07:33 PM
Capitalism is only good when he gets rich. Fuck the others who are successful.

I want to punch his fat fucking face.

Punching him in the face is not necessary when a fading star begins to emplode upon itself.

bluesc
10-25-2011, 07:37 PM
Punching him in the face is not necessary when a fading star begins to emplode upon itself.

Are you kidding me? He is going to capitalize on OWS and get even richer over it, while calling for the end of capitalism.

Maximus
10-25-2011, 07:44 PM
Piers Morgan is great, he actually goes after people, I should watch his show more... if I had tv that is

ChrisDixon
10-25-2011, 07:47 PM
Morgan went after Moore, who denied he was THAT well off and keeps boasting that "they will rue ever putting me on live TV". It's a trainwreck.

Seriously? I'm starting to like this Morgan guy. I can't wait to see the YouTube of this.

KramerDSP
10-25-2011, 07:54 PM
Morgan seems a bit dumbfounded by the proceedings. I don't blame him. I don't trust him at all, but he does ask probing questions that most reporters in America shy away from.

musicmax
10-25-2011, 07:56 PM
Michael Moore goes to the audience and says "Didn't people my age pay about $1,000 a semester? Even less for the city colleges!". Audience murmurs in agreement. Moore then says "We have ignored this problem. College costs too much now! People in Europe and Canada who want to become doctors dont have to pay anything to learn about it. Doctors and Brains are needed in society (I swear he said this) and they can't do their job effectively if they are thinking "how can I make money?". Morgan cuts to a hard break.

Unbelievable. Michael Moore is a communist basically, if not a socialist at best.

:confused:

KramerDSP
10-25-2011, 07:57 PM
Jamie_Weinstein Jamie Weinstein
Michael Moore denied twice that he was financially apart of the 1% on Piers Morgan. This, friends, is what we call a lie.

Piers trying to box Moore into corner on capitalism. We know it's not capitalism it's greed. Ask about greed @Piers

Mr_Toulon Jonathan Toulon
#occupypierstonight Michael Moore is definitely in the 1% but he is "For" America so I guess its ok

zachpippin Zach Pippin
Michael Moore on @PiersTonight: "1%" has spent last 20 years making it hard for everyone else to live

KramerDSP
10-25-2011, 08:02 PM
lol, we need a toob of this. I would love M. Moore to just have conversation with Ron Paul for an hour.

The closest we have ever come, ironically enough, is when Moore was on the first half hour of the Larry King Live show with RP in the second half. Piers Morgan took over the Larry King show.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTnmxa9LwvE

bluesc
10-25-2011, 08:03 PM
:confused:

Many in Europe have free college education. Scotland for example. In the rest of the UK, there is a loan system.

The thing to note, that is a good way to prove that student loans are the cause of high prices is that in the UK they had a cap on prices of 3k, then a year ago they put the cap up to 9k, and almost every single university raised their price to 9k, and then came riots, due to even bigger loans having to be taken up. The universities in Scotland had applications shoot up, and the few that didn't raise prices in England are now building new facilities to accept more people.

No loan system? Forced competition, because most people can't actually afford those high prices.

kojirodensetsu
10-25-2011, 08:29 PM
Morgan is pretty clearly liberal, but he does have his moments and he does ask good questions. I look forward to the toob of Michael Moore trying to deny that he's rich.

unconsious767
10-25-2011, 08:43 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/33dh015.jpg (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/directors/michael-moore-net-worth)

kylejack
10-25-2011, 09:05 PM
I believe Top 1% in annual income is $380K, but it would be quite different if we're talking Top 1% in assets.

unconsious767
10-25-2011, 09:20 PM
This appears to be the link, but cnn is down right now.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/10/25/piers-moore-one-percent.cnn&hpt=pm_r1

kylejack
10-25-2011, 09:23 PM
This appears to be the link, but cnn is down right now.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2011/10/25/piers-moore-one-percent.cnn&hpt=pm_r1
works for me

Johncjackson
10-25-2011, 10:08 PM
I believe Top 1% in annual income is $380K, but it would be quite different if we're talking Top 1% in assets.

That's around $20 million, and I'm sure Moore qualifies. He has made significantly more money than that from 1 film project, maybe from each of his major ones.

RPsupporterAtHeart
10-25-2011, 10:37 PM
:confused:


Michael Moore goes to the audience and says "Didn't people my age pay about $1,000 a semester? Even less for the city colleges!". Audience murmurs in agreement. Moore then says "We have ignored this problem. College costs too much now! People in Europe and Canada who want to become doctors dont have to pay anything to learn about it. Doctors and Brains are needed in society (I swear he said this) and they can't do their job effectively if they are thinking "how can I make money?". Morgan cuts to a hard break.

Unbelievable. Michael Moore is a communist basically, if not a socialist at best.

REALLY!! People in Canada don't have to pay a thing eh. Guess Moore hasn't been to Canada as much as he should. The costs are astronomical. School isn't paid for here, what is he smoking.

mport1
10-25-2011, 10:44 PM
I have always said Michael Moore is fantastic when it comes to identifying problems, and equally horrific when it comes to the solutions.

I keep hearing people say this about Moore and OWS, but I just don't think it's true. They are not identifying problems. The problem is government. They are identifying repercussions of the problem, but saying the problem is things like capitalism.

Then they are way off base on the solution (abolish the goventment) because they just want to grow the problem (government) itself.

mport1
10-25-2011, 10:46 PM
That's around $20 million, and I'm sure Moore qualifies. He has made significantly more money than that from 1 film project, maybe from each of his major ones.

Moore's net worth is apparently around $50 million (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/directors/michael-moore-net-worth/).

GetTech
10-26-2011, 12:43 AM
From watching that show and assuming Ron gets the nomination. That movement just very well be our philosophical competition. I dont know what kind of answers Ron will have when it comes to all these people losing there homes, jobs, and barely scraping by. Which is turning into most of us. I know we can't just keep patching things together with bail outs. I am curious to what this transition will feel like under RP.


Edit: Maybe I am looking to far into this.......

willwash
10-26-2011, 01:18 AM
I believe Top 1% in annual income is $380K, but it would be quite different if we're talking Top 1% in assets.

If his net worth his 50 million, his annual income could be zero and he's still be making 250,000 a year (assuming a 5% rate of return on the 50 mil). And he's surely still earning at least 130k in royalties from his films.

LawnWake
10-26-2011, 01:24 AM
While I don't like Michael Moore at all.. in what top percentage, globally, are the occupy protesters? I heard that we in the West own 97.5% of all the world's resources and capital? Either way, we have by far the majority. Meanwhile, I'm willing to bet most occupy kids have fancy computers, phones, a car, a CD collection, an iPod, and so on.

Now, we in the west are.. compared to most of the world and most of history, SO SPOILED, we fail to see that something like a TV or even a car is a fucking luxury. Now we have these occupy protesters claiming the top 1% owes them more wealth because they can afford to, but I'm willing to bet that if EVERY occupy protester would sell their TV and car, stop eating junkfood, start sharing more apartments, stopped using hot water as carelessly (as most of us likely do) and stopped using every luxury and would go back to the bare necessities, they could feed, clothe and hydrate the whole world population for years.

Now how many people in Africa are out there poresting the west for not giving them more wealth?

Seriously, we are so SPOILED and have such a sense of entitlement, that we fail to look at the bigger picture and just ask for more more more more, not accepting exactly how well off we're are and still feeling like we're entitled to everything. Protesting is fine, but what these kids are protesting really disgusts me. They're every bit as greedy as those 'capitalist pigs' they hate.

JustinL
10-26-2011, 01:45 AM
Michael Moore needs to read Liberty Defined and then a little spark might go off in his head as to how stupid he has been in his protests. He doesn't know what insurance or capitalism are and talks about both all the time. Just reminds me that what we need to do isn't money bombs, but knowledge bombs. If we're to increase our support we really need to recognize it's a battle of understanding and knowledge. The media may be a huge obstacle to dropping that bomb, but we need to recognize that if we don't educate people and free them of all the misconceptions people like Moore pollute their mind with then we won't gain ground. We need to engage more people and inspire them with the ideas of freedom, liberty, and fairness. Appeal to people's affinity for these things even if everything they do is counter to them and then teach them what those things really mean and how they apply to health "insurance" and capitalism (versus corporatism) and the like. Patriotism is guarding the constitution and those that would destroy it by misinformation and poor understanding or blatant power grabs for greed.

Danke
10-26-2011, 01:51 AM
If his net worth his 50 million, his annual income could be zero and he's still be making 250,000 a year (assuming a 5% rate of return on the 50 mil). And he's surely still earning at least 130k in royalties from his films.

add a zero.

JustinL
10-26-2011, 02:16 AM
Moore talks about all this free education business but seems completely blind to the fact that the lady GOT AN EDUCATION. Her debt, while surely screwing her over, isn't why she doesn't have a job. He doesn't seem to understand anything. He just keeps perpetuating all these stupid ideas of everyone deserves everything for free, capitalism is the devil, not the 1% because I protest with the 99%, blah blah blah. Someone needs to sit that guy down and just take him to task. I wonder if it would be possible to sit him down with Peter Schiff or someone for a couple hours and get him to understand anything. Maybe remind him that this is freaking America too and that if socialism is really what he wants then he should take his plan for failure elsewhere. That guy is really frustrating, he represents what we're up against. We have to convert people like that. It's very difficult.

blocks
10-26-2011, 03:08 AM
The closest we have ever come, ironically enough, is when Moore was on the first half hour of the Larry King Live show with RP in the second half. Piers Morgan took over the Larry King show.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTnmxa9LwvE

Wow. Haven't seen that since around when it aired. Ron was great in that interview. I still would love to see Moore v. Paul with very little moderation and profits going to charity. That would be great.

Crotale
10-26-2011, 03:10 AM
I'm British and Piers Morgan has always seemed like a bit of an idiot to me. He's sort of a jumped-up journalist rather than presenter. He does some good interviews though, but he's pompous and a bit full-of it in my opinion.

I was forced to watch Bowling for Colombine in my Religious Studies class a few years back, I cannot stand Michael Moore, manipulating a tragedy for his own selfish end and to push his own flawed agenda.

blocks
10-26-2011, 03:16 AM
I'm British and Piers Morgan has always seemed like a bit of an idiot to me. He's sort of a jumped-up journalist rather than presenter. He does some good interviews though, but he's pompous and a bit full-of it in my opinion.

I was forced to watch Bowling for Colombine in my Religious Studies class a few years back, I cannot stand Michael Moore, manipulating a tragedy for his own selfish end and to push his own flawed agenda.

I've felt the same way about Piers Morgan since he took over here for Larry King. I can't really stand Michael Moore either. But there was one segment in one of his docs that really drove home the culpability of US foreign policy. It referenced the extensive fire-bombing of Japan leading up to the use of the atomic bomb among other events...I can't remember if it was Bowling For Columbine or Fahrenheit 911? The only other Moore doc that I've seen is Roger And Me and it certainly wasn't that.

kazmlsj
10-26-2011, 10:15 AM
Does Moore donate all of the proceeds from his movies and dvd's?

Um, I'm gonna guess that he does not.

Johncjackson
10-26-2011, 10:32 AM
Moore's net worth is apparently around $50 million (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/directors/michael-moore-net-worth/).

There's no accuracy to that site. It has underground rappers who have sold like 500 iTunes songs and never played any shows and broke hairbands as worth millions of dollars.

But for Moore, I'm sure he is worth tens of millions.