Joe Rogan on OWS

[Eric21ND]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrhy1ZfpH-Y

[iamse7en]

OWS is standing up to the government because they want more control and more socialism.

[Czolgosz]

Joe is an independent thinker.

[hazek]

I do not endorse OWS.

If it were Occupay the FED on the other hand I'd support it 100%.

The only way out of this mess is by truly understanding the facts/truths of reality and the real problem, that there is no one size fits all solution and that there are no super human people, that no person just by getting elected somehow receives the magical power of knowledge in how best to solve our problems and that the only way to solve them is through trial and error by a truly free market.

[cajuncocoa]

I do not endorse OWS.

If it were Occupay the FED on the other hand I'd support it 100%.

That's my opinion too.

[specsaregood]

Maybe ted turner will offer up some land of his and let these people go make their own big commune, see how that works out for them.

[FrankRep]

Leaderless?

Why does Occupy Wall Street have a Finance Committee??


Greed Strikes Occupy Wall Street - The battle over $500,000 bankroll
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?325377-Greed-Strikes-Occupy-Wall-Street-The-battle-over-500-000-bankroll

[wannaberocker]

Never liked this Joe Rogan and this makes me dislike him even more.

[wannaberocker]

OWS is standing up to the government because they want more control and more socialism.

Exactly they complain that we arnt socialist enough.

[Kelly.]

OWS needs more Peter Schiff:
http://peterschiffblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/video-live-from-occupy-wall-street.html

[dannno]

OWS is standing up to the government because they want more control and more socialism.

OWS is not a singular entity. It is clear that the media is trying to portray them as leftist, so congratulations, you bought the propaganda.

They are trying to do this SPECIFICALLY to keep people who really understand what is going on AWAY from the protesters so it becomes a nothing but a socialist fustercluck, and thanks to people like you it is working to an extent. The majority of protesters are probably leftist. Thanks to people like me, their plan isn't working so well. There are a lot of libertarians/end the fed/ anarchists at these events as well. Might want to consider that.




I do not endorse OWS.

If it were Occupay the FED on the other hand I'd support it 100%.


Uhh, there are plenty of Fed occupations, where have you been?? I myself occupied the Fed, it was a fantastic time. You should try it.



Leaderless?

Why does Occupy Wall Street have a Finance Committee??


Greed Strikes Occupy Wall Street - The battle over $500,000 bankroll
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?325377-Greed-Strikes-Occupy-Wall-Street-The-battle-over-500-000-bankroll

Wow, so people on the street are VOLUNTARILY donating to a possibly bullshit organization to help fund their movement, and they are finding out that it is a bullshit organization and they probably should have kept the money they raised and spent it on what they felt was best for the movement. Truly moving, Frank.



Never liked this Joe Rogan and this makes me dislike him even more.

Why don't you like Joe Rogan? He is a Ron Paul supporter, extremely intelligent, and had a lot of very insightful things to say about OWS. Most of what he was saying was about how they are pissed off at the system, which is true. It's the biggest movement like it that we have seen in a long, long time, and it probably isn't going anywhere as long as things continue to get worse.

Many people there are socialist, but it isn't the drive behind the real grassroots portion of the movement. Most of the people are complaining about theft, rightfully so, and WE should be down there to help make the movement a more libertarian movement... Because if you even listened to what he said, this isn't over, it is probably just going to get bigger, and if we don't help direct the movement toward freedom then what do you think we are going to get out of it?? Tyranny. All thanks to this bullshit anti-OWS crap.




Exactly they complain that we arnt socialist enough.

I guarantee many of them are not, and the reason more aren't is because not enough of us are there.. and part of the reason is because people like you have a bad attitude.

[dannno]

OWS needs more Peter Schiff:
http://peterschiffblog.blogspot.com/2011/10/video-live-from-occupy-wall-street.html

Peter Schiff found that most of the protesters are pro-capitalism.

Can we get some more high quality posters in this thread? Kelly., Czolgosz and the OP are the only people who have posted who have the non-neocon/Fox News version of what is going on at these OWS protests. We don't need a bunch of Fox News bullshit filling all these OWS threads.

[Romulus]

Never liked this Joe Rogan and this makes me dislike him even more.

He's a Ron Paul supporter.. and gives a mention a 5:00

Rogan is good people.

Stop believe the collectivist crap that the MSM puts out about OWS and I'll stop telling you the Tea Party is racist.

[dannno]

If you are anti-OWS, I have to assume that you are a leftist. To come on to a libertarian board and tell people to stay away from OWS, the ONLY logical explanation is that you are trying to promote a socialist/communist agenda by keeping people who really understand the problems and the real solutions off the street, away from the revolutionaries.

[dannno]

My new sig :D

[Lafayette]

I tried to watch the video, but the back ground music was unbearable.

Joe Rogan is the man though.

[FrankRep]

If you are anti-OWS, I have to assume that you are a leftist. To come on to a libertarian board and tell people to stay away from OWS, the ONLY logical explanation is that you are trying to promote a socialist/communist agenda by keeping people who really understand the problems and the real solutions off the street, away from the revolutionaries.
I've said that associating Ron Paul/End the Fed with OWS will be destructive to Ron Paul's campaign. I don't remember anyone saying to "stay away."

[dannno]

I've said that associating Ron Paul/End the Fed with OWS will be destructive to Ron Paul's campaign. I don't remember anyone saying to "stay away."

End the Fed has been part of OWS the entire time, it is part of the basis behind the movement and absolutely should be pushed hard at these events. Not to mention free market principles that will help bring down the big banks and corporations that control our govt. Ron Paul is the only politician with good principles that supports a good end to the hatred for the establishment that is coming out of these events.

These events very well may be a bigger deal than any election, but I don't see how they could possibly hurt Ron Paul. I haven't advocated taking huge Ron Paul signs down to OWS, but End the Fed should be pushed, and Ron Paul should be pushed at some level.

If Ron Paul supporters were really driving the protests, then the subject matter would be different and we would be picking up a lot of voters. Republicans would see that the protests aren't just left-wing protests and I don't see how it would affect him negatively.

[AGRP]

Sadly, OWS will usher in MORE GOVERNMENT.

The media (fourth estate) will cheer lead for it and government action will follow. The media will tell us what America is thinking and the government will act dispite any "end the fed" influence. The same tactics are being used that they used for the invasion of Libya and TARP. This will be exactly like Libya except that the war will be financial and possibly violent. Who the fuk wanted to go to war in Libya? NO ONE EXCEPT THE GOVERNMENT AND THE MEDIA WHO SHOVED IT DOWN OUR THROATS. How people react to the offensive government action is what will usher in the violence.

[Jack Bauer]

Leaderless?

Why does Occupy Wall Street have a Finance Committee??


Greed Strikes Occupy Wall Street - The battle over $500,000 bankroll
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?325377-Greed-Strikes-Occupy-Wall-Street-The-battle-over-500-000-bankroll

From what ever (admittedly little) I have seen of OWS, its mostly made up of Beta Loser types who seem to have a particular fear of anything resembling an Alpha Male.

That's why they go around mentioning, out of turn, that it is a "leaderless movement".

That's also why they have adopted a progressive stack system and have members claiming "If this is a revolution of white men, it will not succeed."

[Jack Bauer]

If you want to understand OWS better, read Gustav LeBon's excellent work: The Crowd

http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/BonCrow.html

[Jack Bauer]

Repost. Apologies.

[dannno]

Sadly, OWS will usher in MORE GOVERNMENT.

That will only happen if we all stay home.

[pcosmar]

Sadly, OWS will usher in MORE GOVERNMENT.

No they won't.

ANYONE but Ron Paul will.

Until the Banksters are dealt with, more government will continue.

[specsaregood]

Peter Schiff found that most of the protesters are pro-capitalism.


Yes, he did. At least the people he talked to were a LOT closer to us on a LOT of issues than the neoconned republicans that support international welfare/socialism but decry it here at home.

[pcosmar]

From what ever (admittedly little) I have seen of OWS,

You should have left it at that.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322139-Wayback-Machine.-%28when-did-this-start-%29

[zade]

Peter Schiff found that most of the protesters are pro-capitalism.

Can we get some more high quality posters in this thread? Kelly., Czolgosz and the OP are the only people who have posted who have the non-neocon/Fox News version of what is going on at these OWS protests. We don't need a bunch of Fox News bullshit filling all these OWS threads.

You're exactly right about all of this. I'm so tired of seeing all these ideological phonies and their boring, mindless opinions, screaming about leftism. As Jesse Ventura said recently,

"It shocks me that all I read from you is how much you want a revolution in this country, now, when a grassroots movement against the true masters of this country is starting you people want to label it as radical left just so you can sit at home and do nothing like usual."

[Czolgosz]

You're exactly right about all of this. I'm so tired of seeing all these ideological phonies and their boring, mindless opinions, screaming about leftism. As Jesse Ventura said recently,

"It shocks me that all I read from you is how much you want a revolution in this country, now, when a grassroots movement against the true masters of this country is starting you people want to label it as radical left just so you can sit at home and do nothing like usual."


When I read Jesse Ventura quotes I sound like him in my head. Anybody else do that? :D

[dannno]

When I read Jesse Ventura quotes I sound like him in my head. Anybody else do that? :D

Absolutely. (that sounded like his voice, too)

[Working Poor]

The video is very good quality but I think many people might object to Joe's potty mouth. It was almost too much for me and i think i am pretty open. Something that good quality could appeal to so many people. Maybe Joe is working a certain crowd though. I love his style of capturing very nice and crisp yet running I like it. Like high quality analog really impressive work.

I am not sure if I am with OWS or not I don't hate them. I think something good can come out of their gatherings. Something about them makes me not want to trust them though. I don't know what it is maybe it's republican in me. :D Rush Limbaugh is programing me HA Ha. I want to remain open and they seem to be wanting to be neutral.

People all over the world are hurting. The wars are horror all over the world. The drug war is more vicious than people in the USA and UK and Europe know about. This is one of the reasons I pay attention to them they seem in favor of making drugs legal.

Drugs should be legal they are a commodity and their market affects the worlds economy. it seems insane to make this very valuable market illegal every body knows the market crashed when they took cocaine out of coke a cola in the late 20's and that the cocaine market bailed out wall street in the 80's crash and burn. It is costing trillions to fight over it all the time. I am sure keeping this market black contributes to crime if not for drugs being illegal there would be almost nothing left to fight about.

I wish this would be the one demand they make it is screwing up the money and people to keep it illegal.

Here is a must read link on profits in the drug trade and what they did for the market in 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade#Profits

[dannno]

The video is very good quality but I think many people might object to Joe's potty mouth. It was almost too much for me and i think i am pretty open. Something that good quality could appeal to so many people. Maybe Joe is working a certain crowd though. I love his style of capturing very nice and crisp yet running I like it. Like high quality analog really impressive work.


Lol, ya, it used to be a rule to post on his messageboard that you had to post pornographic content within your first 10 posts, and it had to be something "really good"

His podcast is sponsored by fleshlight (a company that makes fake women's hot pockets). His co-host routinely dates porn stars and posts videos to youtube of them checking out his fleshlights, not knowing that they had (recently?) been used and not cleaned.

So essentially he is appealing to mostly young males, which is about half the demographic :p

Here is a great sample of his comedy stylings from 2005:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8928413583604160765

[Eric21ND]

Rogan is good people. The people at OWS have their heart in the right place, they simply need to be educated. They're products of the government run education system. It's a programing you have to de-program. Peter Schiff did his part going down there. We need to have more discussion and dialogue with each other, not at each other. Think of ron Paul and Ralph Nader on Freedom Watch agreeing on numerous fundamental issues.

[Cowlesy]

If you are anti-OWS, I have to assume that you are a leftist. To come on to a libertarian board and tell people to stay away from OWS, the ONLY logical explanation is that you are trying to promote a socialist/communist agenda by keeping people who really understand the problems and the real solutions off the street, away from the revolutionaries.

These guys are definitely the revolutionaries and after listening to this clip, I definitely want them running the government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tsJPKMvWDmY