Foreign Policy Frustration - Help!

[Tall Girl]

:confused: Help! Can someone direct me to a video or article that explains Ron Paul's foreign policy in a way that will help us to convert neo-cons? The only complaint I hear over and over is that they don't like Ron Paul's foreign policy ideas. I think that's because they've only heard the mis-characterized version of it on Glen Beck or Fox News. It's frustrating! I feel like I'm trying to sell a timeshare to them or something and they're just putting up that wall that says, "no, no, no. I cannot do that."

[KramerDSP]

It's tough. My brother is one of them, and refuses to listen. This video has been effective for some other conservatives, however, because it compares Ron Paul's foreign policy with that of George Bush in the year 2000 and Reagan before him. There's also some Goldwater, Palin and Jack Cafferty in there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlmouMA5VTs

[ChrisDixon]

Look up anything by Michael Scheuer, Robert Pape, or Chalmers Johnson. Scheuer especially, has been a vocal supporter of Paul's foreign policy positions. He was with the CIA for 22 years, specializing in Middle Eastern affairs and Islam. He was chosen to start up the Bin Laden Unit in the nineties, which he would serve as chief of for a few years. He also returned after 9/11 as a special adviser to the unit chief. Needless to say, he's a guy who knows his stuff.

Now the question I always pose is this: Do you want the decisions made by someone with support by intelligence officers or someone with the support of a propaganda machine (the media), who we all know is corrupt?

(Scheuer has a website, as well. www.non-intervention.com)

[69360]

Have them read the 9/11 comission report.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLUoWhWsOWk

[bb_dg]

One of the four books that RP recommended to understand the blowback in the middle east is called "Dying to Win" written by Robert Pape, who has documented every single suicide bombing since 1980, when the first instance of modern suicide terrorism began. He gives a presentation here summing up his research. He's written a new book with more data since the last book was written called "Cutting the Fuse"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4HnIyClHEM&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwODYq63ku0&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPhDVigmGQ4&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD7hdRcapYM&feature=related

[wstrucke]

http://www.ronpaulmyths.com

[kazmlsj]

National Defense: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/

And make sure you know what Non-Interventionist means:

Nonintervention or non-interventionism is a foreign policy which holds that political rulers should avoid alliances with other nations, but still retain diplomacy, and avoid all wars not related to direct self-defense. This is based on the grounds that a state should not interfere in the internal politics of another state, based upon the principles of state sovereignty and self-determination. A similar phrase is "strategic independence". Historical examples of supporters of non-interventionism are US Presidents George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, who both favored nonintervention in European Wars while maintaining free trade. Other proponents include United States Senator Robert Taft and United States Congressman Ron Paul.

Nonintervention is distinct from isolationism, the latter featuring economic nationalism (protectionism) and restrictive immigration. Proponents of non-interventionism distinguish their polices from isolationism through their advocacy of more open national relations, to include diplomacy and free trade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-interventionism

[JohnGalt23g]

Just a random thought...

Often, hawks will point to post-WWII as the standard by which our foreign policy must stand, because they will claim that pre-WWII policies led to the unchecked rise of Hitler.

I'm just curious what our national economy/political orientation would have been by 1941 if we had tried to spend 4-5% of our GDP on national defense from 1918 until then, including through the Depression.

Would we have even remained a Constitutional Republic, capable of acting as the Arsenal of Democracy? Or would we have run up such huge deficits that the economic collapse would have led us to a totalitarian form of government?

And is that where we are heading now?

Just curious...

[Okie RP fan]

Go to www.ronpaulflix.com and search for the "Christian Just War Theory"

Very good video.

[simon1911]

If they are believers, I suggest the VVS speech. "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.", Matthew 5:9.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VQ8avBNo6vk

[BlackTerrel]

Tell them Ron Paul is the only one who wants to cut funding to Egypt.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?324454-Egyptian-Christians-demonstrate-in-LA

[theczar1776]

Conservatives know that the government is not capable of picking winners and losers in the market place. And when government does try to pick winners and losers the results are not good. So why do conservatives think that the government has the capacity to pick winners and losers in the complex and insane game of world politics? Government is incompetent. We tried to pick winners in losers in Iraq and now after lives and money lost we are being shown the door and Iran is more influential than ever. In Libya they are close to bringing an Islamic sharia law abiding government to power. So much for freedom from tyranny. In the meantime we are many lives and trillions of dollars poorer.

Conservatives also think that anything that has to do with the military is good. They do not stop to think that the military industrial complex is a for profit business. They want to sell their product and cannot do it if there is no conflict. They are government subsidized businesses and are not inherently patriotic. They want to make money. And just like any government subsidized entity they are not regulated by the market, have no competition and therefore are more expensive and less innovative. Our loss.

[Tall Girl]

Awesome! Thanks everyone!!

[MJU1983]

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God." -Matthew 5:9