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Chainspell
10-23-2011, 05:14 AM
Let's all stand together on this. It's just a name anyway... I have researched some styles that I'm gonna use for the next money bomb video. And it came to me... whatever video I make about this money bomb I can just slap whatever title I want and the message is still the same... The message is still bring the troops home/support the troops/end the wars/vets for ron paul. So we can promote it however we want.. we can promote it saying:

"Support Our Troops"
"Veterans for Ron Paul"
"End the Wars"
"Bring Them Home"

so why can't we have a sub-section on the site that supports each theme. they're all relevant issues... and on each issue we put different facts and persuasion related to that issue. (click image to enlarge) notice the buttons beside "home" has a link to all the sub-sections.

http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img1.jpg (http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img1_full.jpg)


http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img2.jpg (http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img2_full.jpg)


http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img3.jpg (http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img3_full.jpg)


http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img4.jpg (http://www.linkshells.com/dl/images/img4_full.jpg)

then have a direct URL link to those pages so people who want to promote a particular theme like say veterans they can use the URL bringthemhome.com/veterans or veterans.bringthemhome.com and it will all land on the same website... but still show info that pertains to their issues.

okay it's been a long day for me, many sleepless nights and rl problems lol. so I hope we can agree on something soon because these things (site development, printing flyers, video production, promotion, advertising, facebook invitations, etc etc.) these don't just pop-up overnight... we need to work on them now..

lucent
10-23-2011, 05:19 AM
I like the website design.

Take the reigns. Do it.

People will follow.

I recommend having a prominent place on the website for pledges.

I also recommend a place for a counter on the cost of wars.

lucent
10-23-2011, 05:24 AM
Also, the place where you make the pledge needs to be on each page. Need a Facebook page, and a Twitter account.

lucent
10-23-2011, 05:31 AM
Btw, the background image for End These Wars gets two thumbs up.

Domain ideas:

vforvets.com
vforveterans.com
victoryonvday.com

lucent
10-23-2011, 05:34 AM
More domain ideas.

thisnovember11th.com
thisnovember11.com

Gage
10-23-2011, 05:58 AM
Also, the place where you make the pledge needs to be on each page. Need a Facebook page, and a Twitter account.

Aleady all done.

http://vetsforpaul.com
http://tinyurl.com/vetsforpaul
http://twitter.com/vetsforpaul

lucent
10-23-2011, 06:04 AM
Aleady all done.

http://vetsforpaul.com
http://tinyurl.com/vetsforpaul
http://twitter.com/vetsforpaul

I am actually opposed to having a Facebook event, as we can't easily contact the people who join it. If we had the emails of all those people who had joined the BTO Facebook event, it would be a very large email contact list for this money bomb.

Also, something irks me about saying it is Ron Paul's, because it isn't. It is the grassroots doing it.

I will also say that whoever runs the Facebook and Twitter needs to be very active.

lucent
10-23-2011, 07:39 AM
I think we should try to utilize Google Plus.

rich34
10-23-2011, 07:44 AM
I will make my larger donation on the 11th but I will make a small donation on the 5th.

linusPAULing
10-23-2011, 08:56 AM
Excellent points OP!

It's time to get to work on this. This (genera of) themes is the most important of any moneybomb theme yet.

Chainspell, what needs to happen to get this moving?

lucent
10-23-2011, 10:43 AM
Aleady all done.

http://vetsforpaul.com
http://tinyurl.com/vetsforpaul
http://twitter.com/vetsforpaul

I will also say that vetsforpaul is misleading because I and most other Ron Paul supporters are not Veterans. Honestly, it sounds like an organization of Veterans that support Ron Paul, not a moneybomb.

Chainspell
10-23-2011, 11:31 AM
Chainspell, what needs to happen to get this moving?
-final go no go from josh
-need domain
-need bto scripts from dusman
-need writers for content, facts, persuasion

all that can be done in 2 days

parocks
10-23-2011, 11:46 AM
-final go no go from josh
-need domain
-need bto scripts from dusman
-need writers for content, facts, persuasion

all that can be done in 2 days

Well, I think that Gage was telling you that he was doing it. And that he and Dusman are working together, and everything is hunky dory.

However, I personally agree that different people can use different URLs to get to different pages in a site. I think that's a good idea, and I think it's something
that dusman and Gage and maybe justinpagewood can work on.

lucent
10-23-2011, 11:50 AM
-final go no go from josh
-need domain
-need bto scripts from dusman
-need writers for content, facts, persuasion

all that can be done in 2 days

I've suggested a few different domain names.

Thomas
10-23-2011, 12:27 PM
If Gage and Dusman work together then we'll have another awesome site. The BTO website was amazing and I think that really motivated people to donate, but the theme of it was the most important factor. I think we should really play up the military donations aspect for this moneybomb. There are some really nice graphics out there about military donations to Ron, the more the better! I also think we should make a conscious effort to portay Ron as the strongest candidate on national defense. To most people he comes off as liberal and weak on national defense. We have an opportunity with this moneybomb to portray him as the strongest national defense candidate. We can out-hawk the hawks.

p.s. Ron Paul Moneybomb HQ can create its own press by making press releases...

rideurlightning
10-23-2011, 12:33 PM
So how much are we aiming for this money bomb?

IndianaPolitico
10-23-2011, 12:34 PM
So how much are we aiming for this money bomb?
How about a goal of 1.1 million, to go with the 11.11.11 date?

rideurlightning
10-23-2011, 12:36 PM
How about a goal of 1.1 million, to go with the 11.11.11 date?

Seems reasonable. Especially because it's pretty close to Black This Out. I'm all for it and will be donating.

lucent
10-23-2011, 12:39 PM
You need to aim high.

lucent
10-23-2011, 12:44 PM
I would set the pledge for $100 as well.

lucent
10-23-2011, 01:07 PM
Website Design Suggestions


Default 'Home' page could have Ron Paul veteran image as the background image.
First page background image needs a more modern image.
"Moneybomb" needs to be prominent on every page, probably in the title section.
The date 11-11-11 needs to be prominent on every page, probably in the title section.
Pledge and pledge counter needs to be front and center, probably where the picture is on each page. Though I would like to keep the pictures somehow.
Graphic links to RPF, DailyPaul, and other participating websites on the bottom right of the page underneath Twitter and other links.

overcastpatriot
10-23-2011, 01:16 PM
In keeping with the theme you may also want to point out that this is the 11th year of the U.S. being at war in the Middle East.

Birdlady
10-23-2011, 01:41 PM
I like this website idea so much, that I think this could be something separate outside of the veteran's moneybomb. The website's goal would be to capture the anti-war vote for RP. It would need content added on a regular basis though.

Chainspell
10-23-2011, 02:54 PM
I like this website idea so much, that I think this could be something separate outside of the veteran's moneybomb. The website's goal would be to capture the anti-war vote for RP. It would need content added on a regular basis though.
I like this idea!

BTO site should remain operational with videos illustrating how the media is biased.

lucent
10-23-2011, 03:21 PM
I like this website idea so much, that I think this could be something separate outside of the veteran's moneybomb. The website's goal would be to capture the anti-war vote for RP. It would need content added on a regular basis though.

The whole point of the website was to stop the bickering between people. So you want us to go back to bickering and not get the moneybomb setup?

JoshLowry
10-23-2011, 03:27 PM
Nice work on the website Christian.

I talked for a good while with Dusman today about the moneybombs.

Scheduled to talk to Gage a second time. We're all looking to work together so I think we should have a single domain for RPF to push from behind shortly. If people wish to push multiple names, that's fine. The web is yours to own.

I think it's best we push moneybomb first, and then continue to use the platforms we built upon.

PauliticsPolitics
10-23-2011, 03:32 PM
I personally like the idea of multiple names / branding for the money bomb. This means you can direct different people to different branding.
Different strokes for different folks.

Crotale
10-23-2011, 03:56 PM
I will also say that vetsforpaul is misleading because I and most other Ron Paul supporters are not Veterans. Honestly, it sounds like an organization of Veterans that support Ron Paul, not a moneybomb.

I agree, and vets conjures up an image of the animal treatment variety.

With respect to all involved, I also think that this should be handled by the same team that did the Black This Out moneybomb stuff. It would benefit from the continuity. The email addresses, tools and set-up were all made to be transfered to a future moneybomb.

I also agree that there shouldn't be a facebook event page. We should obviously use facebook to promote like crazy, but promote to the official pledge site so we build up a bank of email addresses who we can contact easily. The facebook attendees cannot be retained for future moneybombs and the small notifications doesn't really stand-out so isn't really a good reminder.

TexMac
10-23-2011, 03:58 PM
I just got invited to this:

https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=163195827101460

So, already this is getting fractured into incoherence.

I really was hoping we could get the website going so we don't lose a bunch of people who think they've already pledged because they say they're attending a facebook event page.

JoshLowry
10-23-2011, 04:03 PM
Gage who runs that event told me he is open to working with individuals. He has helped run and raise money with many moneybombs. I don't see any real problems thus far.

I'm talking to him via voice soon.

TexMac
10-23-2011, 04:07 PM
I'm just frustrated with Facebook for moneybombs. There's no way to send everyone reminders, etc. and lots of people have notifications turned off so they don't even get event notifications. I wish we could just push the moneyomb website.

Plus, what happened to Bring them Home for a name? I thought that was agreed already.

Shane Harris
10-23-2011, 04:11 PM
save a soldiers life moneybomb. we need to make voters think that if they vote for/donate to ron paul they are saving a soldiers life. maybe even someone close to them who might get drafted to fight one of santorums wars if he were president. i just think its a good meme to get across with all of this. save a soldiers life. vote ron paul.

greeksta59
10-23-2011, 04:12 PM
So, is this the official next big money bomb? I like the idea. I LOVE the idea of a veterans day MB. but i just wish the day was a little farther away than BTO. People might not have had enough time to recharge their wallets? Thoughts?

Chainspell
10-23-2011, 04:28 PM
Thanks Josh.

Future note: the different sub sections should be able to hold it's own, even if some info needs to be repeated in every section.

Also I like the sound of let's say the voice over saying "for more information on how you can support our troops go to bring our troops home.com"

Or "to support veterans for Ron Paul go to support our troops.com"

Or "let's bring them home go to end the wars.com"

So when you hear it in your head it sounds normal. It doesn't sound weird that the domain is different.

Birdlady
10-23-2011, 04:31 PM
The whole point of the website was to stop the bickering between people. So you want us to go back to bickering and not get the moneybomb setup?

Did we read the same thread? My point was that if others are already doing the veteran's day moneybomb, someone else could run with this idea with NO connection to the moneybomb itself. Don't have pledges and redirect traffic to the moneybomb website. Make it a content website that could be run indefinitely up until the primaries/general election... I dunno why you reacted the way you did. Bad day?

My thoughts was spurred by these 2 comments below:

Aleady all done.

http://vetsforpaul.com
http://tinyurl.com/vetsforpaul
http://twitter.com/vetsforpaul


Well, I think that Gage was telling you that he was doing it. And that he and Dusman are working together, and everything is hunky dory.

However, I personally agree that different people can use different URLs to get to different pages in a site. I think that's a good idea, and I think it's something
that dusman and Gage and maybe justinpagewood can work on.

Chainspell
10-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Lol could people please stop attacking other supporters. Everybody here means well :p a little more respect and value in the opinions of others couldn't hurt.

And I say that with love..

seawolf
10-23-2011, 08:02 PM
Recommend to all a two-day Veterans Day Money Bomb......BTO proved the success of a second and even a third day.

Remember this Money Bomb will be compared to the others very closely by RP's adversaries because of our efforts to show that Active Duty Members support Ron Paul with their dollars more than any other candidate by far....if this Money Bomb does not live up to expectations they will surely pounce!!!!

A November 11th and November 12th Money Bomb should be considered...... by two cents worth as a Veteran!!!

kojirodensetsu
10-23-2011, 11:05 PM
How about a goal of 1.1 million, to go with the 11.11.11 date?

I don't think we really need to have the goal be related to the date. I think we should at least shoot for 2 mil.

Chainspell
10-24-2011, 04:14 AM
the website is done we just need to slap in the PHP code and change a bunch of stuff like
- pledge box should be where the facts are
- persuasion (text) to our cause should be where the upcoming events are

we don't have to have a prize for the contest for promoters, but we should have that leaderboard again :)

we will have team leaders responsible for shaping the message of their theme and the stuff (images, facts, info, video, etc) that goes on to their page.

- lucent will head up the bring them home theme
- gage will do veterans
- sganet will do end the wars
- ?? who wants to head support our troops?

- and I.. *gulp*... I will make a video for each theme, alongside other talented video editors of RPF!
- we can have graphic artists design desktop wallpapers, flyers and posters.
- we need writers to write video ads and also write a couple of paragraphs for the pledge page that will help persuade people to pledge.
- we need people to compile a list of facts and make sure we have up to date and correct info to use on our articles, website and videos

i think everyone is in agreement to no facebook event. we can promote it via facebook but link to the actual money bomb site.
money bomb goal is not important, campaign will determine goal later on.

okay if you are any of the above we can start this now even before the domain is chosen. let's get to work!! bold items are priority. especially the facts. message me if you have any questions, or post here.


*Josh has expressed interest in doing it like this, but he said he's talking to the key people right now :)
*dusman is working on something right now, rest assured he is still working very hard to get RP elected.


I will pledge on making a video for each theme in the shortest amount of time possible! but it would really help if I have a page of facts to draw from! Let's all pledge to get this done on or before Friday, Oct 28. That will give us 2 weeks to promote!

and then the Promotion Bomb can commence!!

bombs away! lol ironic picture i know :p
http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/b/be/Carpet-bombing.jpg

IndianaPolitico
10-24-2011, 06:16 AM
Bump!

Sganet
10-24-2011, 06:28 AM
Looks good OP, I currently have the vetsforpaul (http://vetsforpaul.com/) link on ETW's page (https://www.facebook.com/ENDtheWARS.MoneyBomb) / events (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=262536453789154).

We should direct people to the pledge site, but FB event is also very useful on reminding people when an event is coming up. I think now days, people check their facebook more often than they check their emails, so having both will make sure they'll remember to donate. :D

Chainspell
10-24-2011, 06:34 AM
Looks good OP, I currently have the vetsforpaul (http://vetsforpaul.com/) link on ETW's page (https://www.facebook.com/ENDtheWARS.MoneyBomb) / events (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=262536453789154).

We should direct people to the pledge site, but FB event is also very useful on reminding people when an event is coming up. I think now days, people check their facebook more often than they check their emails, so having both will make sure they'll remember to donate. :D
sent you a PM along with some others.

I'm currently nailing down 4 visual styles for the videos, already got one that I really like. and also I've downloaded some HD war footage from youtube. So I'll hit the ground running when everything is in place. I will need people who can write dialogue or the voice over script for the ads. We will post it on the forum and make adjustments, so it doesn't need to be perfect right away.

if you're reading this and you feel you can write something, please do!

Chainspell
10-24-2011, 06:43 AM
what do you guys think should be the tone of the videos? or how should we appeal to the viewer?

here are some different ways of appealing to the viewer:


The most important types of advertising appeals include emotional and rational appeals. Emotional appeals are often effective for the youth while rational appeals work well for products directed towards the older generation. Here are just some of the various different kinds of advertising appeals seen in the media today:
http://www.articleswave.com/advertising-articles/types-of-advertising-appeals.html

I always make videos that appeal to emotions, for some reason... but I can also make other ones, I just need a script. i really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSTKoKjJ5XA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJi1v15yhlM&feature=related


Just watched parts 1, 2 and 3... going outside to cut down trees with my chainsaw while drinking beer and wrestling a bear to make up for all the crying I just did...:)

we can have a voice over going on while those clips are playing, and the voice over is giving them ron paul's reasoning for ending wars... let's see if they don't agree with us then!! we can use new clips from http://welcomehomeblog.com/ to increase emotional impact.

but for older folks we're gonna need some rational appeal. like ridiculous facts about the war.

Chainspell
10-24-2011, 07:55 AM
This is one of my favorite movies "Thirteen Days"

when the generals were clamoring for war, JFK instead chose to communicate to the Russians in the form of a blockade.

watch at about 2:00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idfv6a2ampo

imagine ron paul as president starting a new "form" of handling conflicts or problems. Man he will be an awesome president!

TexMac
10-24-2011, 08:03 AM
Watch Aravoth's and eLib3rty's videos. (http://www.youtube.com/user/eLIB3RTY) They were super-popular last campaign.

linusPAULing
10-24-2011, 11:36 AM
bump

linusPAULing
10-24-2011, 12:23 PM
what do you guys think should be the tone of the videos? or how should we appeal to the viewer?

here are some different ways of appealing to the viewer:



I always make videos that appeal to emotions, for some reason... but I can also make other ones, I just need a script. i really like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSTKoKjJ5XA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJi1v15yhlM&feature=related



we can have a voice over going on while those clips are playing, and the voice over is giving them ron paul's reasoning for ending wars... let's see if they don't agree with us then!! we can use new clips from http://welcomehomeblog.com/ to increase emotional impact.

but for older folks we're gonna need some rational appeal. like ridiculous facts about the war.


I think the 80/20 rule applies here. 80% emotional appeal, 20% rational. Once folks have an emotional attachment to something they are more open to a few brief, concise rational appeals.

Also, time is short and emotional appeals are often immediate, particularly with this theme, while rational appeal alone tends to take some time.

linusPAULing
10-24-2011, 12:53 PM
Regarding domain name... I presume this is well on its way to having been settled. If not, while my favorites for some time have been either BringThemHome.com or BringTheTroopsHome.com, another catchy name is the double entendre EndTheseBloodyWars.com.

speciallyblend
10-24-2011, 12:56 PM
Ron Paulin, Ron Paul vs Status Quo /2 way Race in the GOP Primary

seawolf
10-24-2011, 01:59 PM
RP Campaign released Black This Out Money Bomb Statistics!!!!

Great information for planningthe Nov. 11th Money Bomb.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron...ion-2011-10-14

Big push needs to be obtaining more donors due to average donation of $61.92 being just about half of the 2007 Money Bombs.

ItsTime
10-24-2011, 02:06 PM
Where is the facebook event?

IndianaPolitico
10-24-2011, 05:26 PM
Where is the facebook event?
Some are saying we will have none, but there is one going. I think Gage made it, but I could be wrong. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=163195827101460

IndianaPolitico
10-24-2011, 05:28 PM
Do we have an "official" thread?

chris41336
10-24-2011, 05:41 PM
Just out of curiosity, has anyone spoken to the campaign about this?

I'm sure they might have an opinion for the best "politically correct" name for the moneybomb to appeal to the broadest crowd.

Not to mention they will have to set up their site that day.

ItsTime
10-24-2011, 05:47 PM
Some are saying we will have none, but there is one going. I think Gage made it, but I could be wrong. http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=163195827101460

Thanks, just posted it on black this out facebook page.


Just out of curiosity, has anyone spoken to the campaign about this?

I'm sure they might have an opinion for the best "politically correct" name for the moneybomb to appeal to the broadest crowd.

Not to mention they will have to set up their site that day.

There was a poorly named one earlier in the year and the campaign just changed the name on their website to Ron Paul Vs Romneycare.

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 07:16 PM
Please, please, please, please, please.

Get that image that shows donations to Ron Paul vs Obama and all the other candidates FRONT AND CENTER on the web site, the facebook page, and everywhere, and push, push, push that theme.

The first thing we should be selling is that Dr. Paul is the TROOPS FIRST CHOICE, and the event is being held in honor of that distinction.

The last thing we want is an interpretation that we're taking advantage of Veteran's Day to raise money for an anti-war political candidate. By stressing the TROOPS choice, we can avoid that.

Otherwise, the warmongers will use this as a chance to rake us over the coals.

I'm not sure if I've made the distinction clear, so ask if I didn't.

ETA: This is the image.
http://www.ronpaulronpaul.com/img/2012-Q3-graph-top-tier.jpg

anewvoice
10-24-2011, 07:30 PM
Once this is all settled, I am hoping the owner of BTO is going to image edit 1 more time to ask all BTO attendees to attend the 11/11 monybomb... Plus, campaign has 40k+ e-mail addresses to e-mail :)

linusPAULing
10-24-2011, 07:31 PM
Please, please, please, please, please.

Get that image that shows donations to Ron Paul vs Obama and all the other candidates FRONT AND CENTER on the web site, the facebook page, and everywhere, and push, push, push that theme.

The first thing we should be selling is that Dr. Paul is the TROOPS FIRST CHOICE, and the event is being held in honor of that distinction.

The last thing we want is an interpretation that we're taking advantage of Veteran's Day to raise money for an anti-war political candidate. By stressing the TROOPS choice, we can avoid that.

Otherwise, the warmongers will use this as a chance to rake us over the coals.

I'm not sure if I've made the distinction clear, so ask if I didn't.

ETA: This is the image.
http://www.ronpaulronpaul.com/img/2012-Q3-graph-top-tier.jpg

I agree that RP's military donations should be heavily emphasized but I don't think we need to shy away from the antiwar message. Ron Paul has never avoided it, even in nationally televised the debates.

Being against war profiteering is a sound principle and Ron Paul is the champion of standing firmly on principle. We should do the same!

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 08:49 PM
I agree that RP's military donations should be heavily emphasized but I don't think we need to shy away from the antiwar message. Ron Paul has never avoided it, even in nationally televised the debates.

Being against war profiteering is a sound principle and Ron Paul is the champion of standing firmly on principle. We should do the same!
Agreed, and I didn't mean to overstress the issue, but I think it's very important people get that we're solidly in agreement with the troops.

I also think the idea of a separate site aimed directly at the anti-war movement is a great idea. I'm among that contingent, personally.

I just don't want to see a "Ron Paul Uses Veteran's Day to Demoralize Troops" headline popping up all over the place in the legacy media.

It needs to be obvious that we're asking people to follow the troops lead by their support, not undermining their desire to fight forever (the neocon spin). The donation graph makes that abundantly clear.

We're not trying to undermine the troops desire to fight and convince them to come home. We're respecting their wishes and trying to meet their needs. The difference is critical.

linusPAULing
10-24-2011, 08:57 PM
Agreed, and I didn't mean to overstress the issue, but I think it's very important people get that we're solidly in agreement with the troops.

I also think the idea of a separate site aimed directly at the anti-war movement is a great idea. I'm among that contingent, personally.

I just don't want to see a "Ron Paul Uses Veteran's Day to Demoralize Troops" headline popping up all over the place in the legacy media.

It needs to be obvious that we're asking people to follow the troops lead by their support, not undermining their desire to fight forever (the neocon spin). The donation graph makes that abundantly clear.

We're not trying to undermine the troops desire to fight and convince them to come home. We're respecting their wishes and trying to meet their needs. The difference is critical.

You make a good point. We don't want to do ANYTHING to offend any troops in active duty. The Ron Paul movement probably appreciates their service more than most imo, and we need to make that absolutely clear!

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 09:32 PM
You make a good point. We don't want to do ANYTHING to offend any troops in active duty. The Ron Paul movement probably appreciates their service more than most imo, and we need to make that absolutely clear!
I want people who have no idea who Ron Paul is to see something about the Veterans' Day moneybomb and react first to the fact that the troops are supporting Ron Paul, not that Ron Paul is using the troops to raise money with an emotional appeal. I want them to react to the troops' stance before they have time to formulate the "he's tugging heartstrings to get money" idea.

I'm thinking in particular of my stepson, who's back from Afghanistan and Iraq, his dad, who's not particularly political, and a warmongering friend who thinks the politicians are right about fighting everywhere, and has no idea how the troops feel about it.

Put yourself in any of those three mindsets, then compare your reaction to the current Veteran's Day sites and the image that I posted above. Which one would make you want to donate, and which would make you think "another cynical politician using the troops for an emotional appeal?"

See the difference?

Sentinelrv
10-24-2011, 09:41 PM
I agree with adding that graph in plain view on the website and making it the focus of this money bomb. Everyone needs to know that the troops have made Ron Paul their pick for the next president. It's probably the strongest argument we can make in regards to selling our foreign policy. Would someone really want to make a scene by opposing what the troops want? This graph clearly illustrates exactly what the troops want most and I think it would be hard for people to get around it if it was put in their faces. I just can't see these people going against the troops.

Chainspell
10-24-2011, 09:47 PM
we can add a graph in a prominent spot yup

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 09:48 PM
I agree with adding that graph in plain view on the website and making it the focus of this money bomb. Everyone needs to know that the troops have made Ron Paul their pick for the next president. It's probably the strongest argument we can make in regards to selling our foreign policy. Would someone really want to make a scene by opposing what the troops want? This graph clearly illustrates exactly what the troops want most and I think it would be hard for people to get around it if it was put in their faces. I just can't see these people going against the troops.
Exactly. And if there's not room on a site because that graphics big, then feature a pie chart that shows the same info very prominently.

Make sure that point is driven home over and over and over again, and make it obvious DR PAUL is the one REALLY supporting the troops.

Stick THAT in Hannity's pipe and make him smoke it. :D

Sentinelrv
10-24-2011, 09:50 PM
we can add a graph in a prominent spot yup

Make sure to add a big title to spell it out for people like "The Troops Overwhelmingly Support Ron Paul as their Next President"

speciallyblend
10-24-2011, 09:52 PM
keep up the great work, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emm4VFvn2Jg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emm4VFvn2Jg

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 09:55 PM
And BTW, I'm sorry I didn't think of this earlier, but it wasn't until I saw the site live and was thinking about sending it to some folks that I got to looking at it from their perspective, instead of ours.

THIS is what our TROOPS want, not the chickenhawks in DC. Rub it in their faces, and make sure the folks who think Ron is "out there" or "unelectable" know how the troops feel about him.

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 10:03 PM
we can add a graph in a prominent spot yup
Looking at vetsforpaul, I really like the layout. Ron's got about 50% total donations, right? Could you pie-graph over his pic, with the top half only slightly shaded, representing his share, and little translucent slices on the bottom half showing the other candidate's shares? Not sure how it would look, but there was something similar in a thread somewhere here. :)

Sentinelrv
10-24-2011, 10:04 PM
I'm actually surprised we don't push this fact more aggressively. I mean, what are people going to do, call the troops lazy quitters for wanting to come home? That would never happen in a million years. What can the warmongers really say to get around this fact? All I see them doing right now is ignoring it.

If anybody tries to argue with you about Ron's foreign policy, just ask them if they would support whatever the troops thought was best for the country. When they say yes, just link them to a graph or pie chart of the donations. How can they possibly argue against that? And you set them up first by asking them if they'd support whatever the troops wanted.

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 10:12 PM
I'm actually surprised we don't push this fact more aggressively. I mean, what are people going to do, call the troops lazy quitters for wanting to come home? That would never happen in a million years. What can the warmongers really say to get around this fact? All I see them doing right now is ignoring it.

If anybody tries to argue with you about Ron's foreign policy, just ask them if they would support whatever the troops thought was best for the country. When they say yes, just link them to a graph or pie chart of the donations. How can they possibly argue against that? And you set them up first by asking them if they'd support whatever the troops wanted.
It sure simplifies his interviews with any of the chickenhawks too. Blows them out of the water, actually. Like you said, what can they say in return without looking like stone-cold killers?

He could even use it to great effect in the debates, particularly after a successful moneybomb themed around it.

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 10:28 PM
Does "Follow the Troops" or "Follow the Troops' Lead" do anything for anybody?

Chainspell
10-24-2011, 10:30 PM
Does "Follow the Troops" do anything for anybody?
not to me freetraveler

thanks for that graph suggestion btw +rep!

FreeTraveler
10-24-2011, 10:32 PM
not to me freetraveler

thanks for that graph suggestion btw +rep!

You're welcome. Like I said, I wish I'd thought of it earlier. I've got a lot of fence-sitter friends, and when I saw the site I thought gee, how can we sell those fence-sitters, and convince them this is about the troops, not a politician looking for cash?

Sganet
10-24-2011, 11:41 PM
I like this video, help people understand why we should change our foreign policy. Maybe contents in this video could be used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc5E-MnDBVk&feature=related

lucent
10-25-2011, 12:47 AM
There's always the theme of

"What Our Troops Want"

Which means, they want Ron Paul as president, they want to come home and when they retire, they want economic security for their sacrifice.

Sentinelrv
10-25-2011, 01:23 AM
There's always the theme of

"What Our Troops Want"

Which means, they want Ron Paul as president, they want to come home and when they retire, they want economic security for their sacrifice.

I really like this idea for the theme. Dusman had an idea about having the troops post videos to put on the website endorsing Ron Paul and the money bomb, but we could alter this idea to have the troops explain what they want and why they believe Ron Paul is the answer. The only problem I see is the name. "What Our Troops Want Money Bomb" is kind of strange. Is there a better way to rephrase this to make it sound better?

2ndfor1st
10-25-2011, 01:28 AM
Is there a reason why the VETSFORPAUL.com site is a no go in this thread?

lucent
10-25-2011, 01:34 AM
Is there a reason why the VETSFORPAUL.com site is a no go in this thread?

Because I and most other Ron Paul supporters aren't veterans.

Sentinelrv
10-25-2011, 01:44 AM
What about "Troops for Paul"? Could we obtain www.troopsforpaul.com?

lucent
10-25-2011, 01:47 AM
What about "Troops for Paul"? Could we obtain www.troopsforpaul.com?

I am not a soldier and most other Ron Paul supporters aren't soldiers.

overcastpatriot
10-25-2011, 01:47 AM
The only problem I see is the name. "What Our Troops Want Money Bomb" is kind of strange. Is there a better way to rephrase this to make it sound better?

The Troops Have Spoken MB
The Soldiers' Choice MB

2ndfor1st
10-25-2011, 01:47 AM
Because I and most other Ron Paul supporters aren't veterans.

Ok so would you say the consensus here is NOT for the design or NOT for the domain name? Or no on both?

lucent
10-25-2011, 01:49 AM
Ok so would you say the consensus here is NOT for the design or NOT for the domain name? Or no on both?

Well, the name of the moneybomb is Ron Paul's Veteran Day's Moneybomb. It isn't Ron Paul's, it's the grassroots.

2ndfor1st
10-25-2011, 02:17 AM
I'm in favor of the design layout at VETSFORPAUL.com and believe the domain name works.

It's themed well for Veterans Day and this is a money bomb for Ron Paul. The site says everything you need to know at first glance, if you're a paul supporter, you know what it is. It's reminiscent to the BTO's theme (which has already proven to be a success)....if it's not broke don't fix it in other words.

The conceptual layouts in this thread are beautiful but I believe they lack half of the message (Ron Paul). There isn't anything about a money bomb or Ron Paul in them. I think it's a mistake to start from scratch and disregard something that's already in motion.

I do like the End These Wars layout best, but it's not a moneybomb layout, I'm sorry. I would use them as a long term informational website that gains support over the next few months and on.

Maximilian American
10-25-2011, 02:25 AM
Count me in for a strong donation from myself and many other friends and family.

eleganz
10-25-2011, 02:28 AM
Count me in for a strong donation from myself and many other friends and family.

ME TOO!!

Sganet
10-25-2011, 02:42 AM
The Troops Have Spoken MB
The Soldiers' Choice MB

"END the WARS (https://www.facebook.com/ENDtheWARS.MoneyBomb)" MB

Event (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=262536453789154)

Everyone can support "End the Wars". They're undeclared, unconstitutional, we're broke, so bring'em home and end the wars! :)

2ndfor1st
10-25-2011, 02:50 AM
"END the WARS (https://www.facebook.com/ENDtheWARS.MoneyBomb)" MB

Event (https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=262536453789154)

Everyone can support "End the Wars". They're undeclared, unconstitutional, we're broke, so bring'em home and end the wars! :)

I like that!

1836
10-25-2011, 02:52 AM
Support the troops. Declare war.

Chainspell
10-25-2011, 05:09 AM
I'm in favor of the design layout at VETSFORPAUL.com and believe the domain name works.

It's themed well for Veterans Day and this is a money bomb for Ron Paul. The site says everything you need to know at first glance, if you're a paul supporter, you know what it is. It's reminiscent to the BTO's theme (which has already proven to be a success)....if it's not broke don't fix it in other words.

The conceptual layouts in this thread are beautiful but I believe they lack half of the message (Ron Paul). There isn't anything about a money bomb or Ron Paul in them. I think it's a mistake to start from scratch and disregard something that's already in motion.

I do like the End These Wars layout best, but it's not a moneybomb layout, I'm sorry. I would use them as a long term informational website that gains support over the next few months and on.
maybe that's because I did those layouts in 15 minutes? you're supposed to use your imagination when comparing them. it's just a layout, you put the info together in your head...

FreeTraveler
10-25-2011, 06:25 AM
Whoa, I didn't mean to get a whole redesign and name shift started this late. Point an extra domain name or two there, but keep the name; it'll be useful for at least some of the demographic. I think the current vetsforpaul site is dynamite, I just want to shift the focus enough to make sure the Troops needs get top billing, not some "money-grubbing politician" :D :D (Note the quotes and the double grins... I'm talking about how the warmongers and chickenhawks would spin it.)

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Time's awasting.

lucent
10-25-2011, 06:31 AM
Whoa, I didn't mean to get a whole redesign and name shift started this late. Point an extra domain name or two there, but keep the name; it'll be useful for at least some of the demographic. I think the current vetsforpaul site is dynamite, I just want to shift the focus enough to make sure the Troops needs get top billing, not some "money-grubbing politician" :D :D (Note the quotes and the double grins... I'm talking about how the warmongers and chickenhawks would spin it.)

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Time's awasting.

We don't even have a domain name.

RIPLEYMOM
10-25-2011, 08:22 AM
BRING 'EM HOME!

I'd love a new avatar to use as my Face Book pic for this event. :rolleyes:

Thanks for all your hard work, Chainspell!!!!

Lucille
10-25-2011, 09:17 AM
FWIW, via my mom:


Chinese numerology and Feng Shui for 2011. This year we are going to experience four unusual dates: 1/1/11, 1/11/11, 11/1/11, 11/11/11.
And that's not all, take the last two digits of the year you were born and the age you will be this year and the result will add up to 111 for everyone! This is the year of MONEY.

[...]

Good luck to you. This only happens once in 800 years.

When I read it, I immediately thought of this money bomb.

2ndfor1st
10-25-2011, 10:02 AM
I'm not sure if this person is updating the pledge count or if the pledge/subscribe form works or not but this is going in the right direction per past successes (BTO). The branding is clean and consistent.



VETSFORPAUL.COM
Over 1400 likes on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/moneybombhq



http://www.micromascots.com/vetdaysmallwide.jpg

http://www.micromascots.com/vettallbannerbig.jpg

http://www.micromascots.com/vetsdaybannersm.jpg

http://www.micromascots.com/vetsdaybanner.jpg

http://www.micromascots.com/vetwidesmall.jpg

http://www.micromascots.com/vetwidebanner.jpg

http://www.micromascots.com/vetdaylargewide.jpg

http://ronpaulronpaul.com/img/vetsforpaul.jpg

I recommend uploading the following graphs as one of your facebook photos and tagging all of your influential friends. I saw people posting these and tagging each of the candidates in the photos. Make sure to set the privacy to public so many people can share and re-share.

http://ronpaulronpaul.com/img/2012-Q3-graph-2011-vets.jpg

http://ronpaulronpaul.com/img/2012-Q3-graph-2011-vets-reps.jpg

seawolf
10-25-2011, 06:48 PM
While I see a lot of great work on the November 11th Money Bomb on several Threads....I guess looking from the outside and probably not close to knowing all that is going on....it seems this event just is not coming together....at least not very quickly.

Can anyone update the thread on the progress and when the pledge website, face book page etc... and videos..... will be fully operational... Time seems to be fast slipping away......only 16 days until the 11th....

Again, Thank you all for your hard work on this Money Bomb.....

Thank you

Sentinelrv
10-26-2011, 01:08 AM
While I see a lot of great work on the November 11th Money Bomb on several Threads....I guess looking from the outside and probably not close to knowing all that is going on....it seems this event just is not coming together....at least not very quickly.

Can anyone update the thread on the progress and when the pledge website, face book page etc... and videos..... will be fully operational... Time seems to be fast slipping away......only 16 days until the 11th....

Again, Thank you all for your hard work on this Money Bomb.....

Thank you

I agree. I'm predicting this money bomb to be a complete failure unless things start to come together pretty soon. As of right now I have no idea what's going on and it's starting to piss me off. There's like five different threads for this money bomb. When I put together the main planning thread for Black This Out I made sure to keep it updated so everybody knew exactly what was going on and what we were all shooting for.

The main problem I see here is that there is ABSOLUTELY NO COMMUNICATION between the people running the event and the grassroots. I have no idea who's in charge. I know Gage made the website and the Facebook event, but he doesn't post on this forum to keep us updated of anything that's going on. We have no idea what he's planning. I have no idea if Dusman is involved with this either. He hasn't been posting. Is he working with Gage or not? And is Chainspell here working with them also, or did he just create this idea thread?

The lack of communication with the people running this event gives off the appearance that it's not put together well. Because there is nobody here running the event to filter our ideas and implement them on the website, the creativity is stagnant. We have no promotion goal. Hell, there is no promotion yet because nobody knows what's going on. Time is slipping away here and we need answers.

I'm guessing all those banners above my post are new, so that's some progress. Also, it seems that www.SupportThemNow.com is now the main website for the money bomb and VetsForPaul.com links to it. Now we just need somebody in charge of this thing to get here on the forum so we can have some communication, or else this thing will continue to go nowhere.

Xelaetaks
10-26-2011, 01:17 AM
I sent a message to the campaign from this site linking this thread to ask if they can help collaborate to make this a big moneybomb for Ron Paul. Hopefully they will check it out. Thanks for all the work on this moneybomb. Hopefully it will be a good one.

2ndfor1st
10-26-2011, 01:56 AM
If vetsforpaul is redirecting to supportthemnow, cool.

Lets promote and make it big.

Hey and it looks like the pledge counter moved ;)

Xenophage
10-26-2011, 02:03 AM
I thought 11-11-11 was Skyrim Day (http://www.elderscrolls.com/)...

Chainspell
10-26-2011, 02:16 AM
I'm stepping away from this thread and focusing on making videos. A decision was made as to who will be in-charge of this money bomb now, and I believe that's Gage.

I will have a video ready probably in a week or so, not sure yet what the main theme is.

-good luck to all of you :)

Sentinelrv
10-26-2011, 02:20 AM
I'm stepping away from this thread and focusing on making videos. A decision was made as to who will be in-charge of this money bomb now, and I believe that's Gage.

I will have a video ready probably in a week or so, not sure yet what the main theme is.

-good luck to all of you :)

Did you read my post about this? It's just a couple posts back. If Gage is going to head this thing up then he needs to be here on the forum communicating with us like Dusman did for BTO or this thing is going nowhere fast. We need clear communication so that we can express our ideas and get them implemented. We don't have a lot of time left to promote this and we're starting from scratch.

Sganet
10-26-2011, 02:43 AM
It's "SUPPORT THEM NOW" Money Bomb now? Sounds funny, I rather it go back to Veterans Day Money Bomb. "END the WARS" sounds good too.

airborne373
10-26-2011, 06:29 AM
Not sure if the work is done and the name is set but this in my opinion:

What do the troops want to hear more than anything else? ..... "WELCOME HOME!"


That's what the Vietnam Vets NEVER got ... a Welcome Home. To this day when I meet a Vietnam Vet I say "welcome home" he may have been back state side for four decades but he knows exactly what I mean.

WELCOME HOME! Means several things: The hostilities are over, our fighters have done their duty .... welcome them home.
A grateful nation welcomes back service members with open arms of love and acceptance.
The process of bringing troops home and recognizing their sacrifice is an ending, and ending both troops and Ron Paul supporters desire.
At this point there are many in govt., the military, and general population that are just looking for a way to declare victory and come home. I think this could be the message of the Nov. 11th money bomb.



.... WELCOME HOME ....

TexMac
10-26-2011, 10:38 AM
The main problem I see here is that there is ABSOLUTELY NO COMMUNICATION between the people running the event and the grassroots. I have no idea who's in charge. I know Gage made the website and the Facebook event, but he doesn't post on this forum to keep us updated of anything that's going on. We have no idea what he's planning. I have no idea if Dusman is involved with this either. He hasn't been posting. Is he working with Gage or not? And is Chainspell here working with them also, or did he just create this idea thread?.

It seems to me that YOU should be running it. You and ItsTime were the main drivers for the last bomb. Pick someone to put up the website and lets's get going. dusman has been posting, he needs to either make a functional website or give all the work from the last one to whoever is putting up the new one.

Love him or hate him, this is what Trevor contributed in '07-'08. He always stepped up and got things done, especially when it came to getting the ball rolling.

Also, all you coders out there, how about some tools for automating invitations? We had some last time so that we could mass invite people on facebook and myspace, Anyone good with those APIs? Here's some inspiration:

http://www.therobert.org/rp/fb/tp/index.php

Look around that site. That's how we mass invited people last time, plus we messaged them again on the day of the bomb. Is it possible anymore?

You all know facebook was a big FAIL this time around. No telling how many of the people we slaved around inviting tediously even got a notification because if they're like me they have most of their notifications TURNED OFF. We need to either get around that somehow or forget about using facebook.

2ndfor1st
10-26-2011, 11:39 AM
This is a mess. The last thread I saw the VetsForPaul.com site and thought that was the one. Everytime I come back, there's a new site, a new name and a new thread.

First things first, ask the moderator to consolidate these threads and scrap the duplicates. Whoever starts the thread needs to keep their initial post updated and current so we can all have the correct info. Who wants to do this?

So now VetsForPaul (gage) is stepping down? or is he the other new site that I'll never remember the name of... I'm so confused now.

The only thing wrong with VetsForPaul was that the form didn't work. The logo worked, the theme worked, the message was right. There were creatives made, and now the new site is the same thing with a worse logo.

Dusman, everybody here, including me, wants to know what you're on board with. You're the man for this and we need some direction. Do you have the time to take this on? I don't blame you if you're exhausted from BTO, you did an awesome job on it and probably stayed up for 2 weeks straight.... Please PM me if you can.

Let's not let this one slip by us.

JoshLowry
10-26-2011, 12:12 PM
Not any real mess. Taking it to the public forum threads would have dragged this out much longer.


We are using www.SupportThemNow.com (http://www.SupportThemNow.com) as the theme to push behind. Had it pointed to proper nameservers last night.

Dusman, Chainspell, Gage, and I were originally torn on the theme to use.

BringThemHome11.com, VetsForPaul.com, SupportTheTroops2011.com, HeServed.com were talked about but shot down for various reasons.

We wanted something that brings in as many visitors as possible.

Gage has the basic pledge/facebook scripts up. I'd like to see us rework some of the text, graphics, banners.

Gage told me that he was going to let Dusman get his scripts on the site.

Chainspell is working on a video. Sorry for the confusion.


We've got a domain and facebook event for you to push if you'd like to help!

TexMac
10-26-2011, 12:14 PM
When we organize for this bomb, we need to set up the transition to the next bomb right away so this doesn't happen again. Wasn't the idea supposed to be that the BTO site was reusable, with just design changes? Does someone want to step up as the MoneyBomb King or something and just be in charge for the whole campaign so we don't get this big lag in between bombs?

JoshLowry
10-26-2011, 12:20 PM
When we organize for this bomb, we need to set up the transition to the next bomb right away so this doesn't happen again. Wasn't the idea supposed to be that the BTO site was reusable, with just design changes? Does someone want to step up as the MoneyBomb King or something and just be in charge for the whole campaign so we don't get this big lag in between bombs?

The BTO moneybomb was extended and pushed through Friday.

Saturday I started to see the formation of the forums rejecting the VetsForPaul.com site.

Changes were made to accommodate over the last three days.

We have a better domain to push.

I'm doing my best to herd a bunch of cats. :o

IndianaPolitico
10-26-2011, 12:23 PM
Alright, it looks as though everything is set. The site is up, the facebook event has around 1,000 attending, and videos are being made.

Let's get promoting!

FreeTraveler
10-26-2011, 12:24 PM
Your hard work is appreciated, Josh. :)

TexMac
10-26-2011, 12:25 PM
The BTO moneybomb was extended and pushed through Friday.

Saturday I started to see the formation of the forums rejecting the VetsForPaul.com site. Changes were made to accommodate over the last three days. We have a better domain to push.

I'm doing my best to herd a bunch of cats. :o

What domain is it? We need to get it all in one thread, like the on Sentinelrv made for the BTO bomb, and kept updated so everyone knew exactly what was happening.

Sentinelrv, are you stepping up for this bomb? We need someone to run the main push thread.

FreeTraveler
10-26-2011, 12:28 PM
Any chance that little graphic at the bottom of the page can be enlarged and moved to a more prominent location? Otherwise a lot of people aren't going to understand how we're supporting the troops by pushing an anti-war candidate, and the neocons are going to have a party all over our butts.

JoshLowry
10-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Thanks FT. Lots of others working behind the scenes!

The people in this thread are upset because they care.

We've gone over some uncharted waters, but it should be relatively smooth sailing from here out.

Do what you all do best!


What domain is it? We need to get it all in one thread, like the on Sentinelrv made for the BTO bomb, and kept updated so everyone knew exactly what was happening.

Sentinelrv, are you stepping up for this bomb? We need someone to run the main push thread.

www.SupportThemNow.com

Agreed, I'll make a dedicated subforum shortly for the push.

89five.o
10-26-2011, 01:05 PM
The site looks great. Does anybody have any ideas about what we can do to our facebook pics to get people interested? I know that having the black bars across my eyes got a lot of people clicking on my picture and I had the BTO website URL typed into the description.

Paul4Prez
10-26-2011, 01:10 PM
The name used doesn't matter all that much, and the more websites the better. Just get the 11/11/11 date right, and make sure everyone knows to go to RonPaul2012.com to donate.

And stop using Facebook.

lucent
10-26-2011, 03:29 PM
Thanks FT. Lots of others working behind the scenes!

The people in this thread are upset because they care.

We've gone over some uncharted waters, but it should be relatively smooth sailing from here out.

Do what you all do best!



www.SupportThemNow.com

Agreed, I'll make a dedicated subforum shortly for the push.

I approve the domain. It is more demanding than just "Support The Troops" and appeals to a broader base than "Bring Them Home"

The ad with the soldier and pie chart should be front and center for this imo. :)

FBappDev
10-26-2011, 06:35 PM
"END the WARS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.131317706973174.21093.111744825597129&type=3)" facebook friendly, seamless, profile banner available, (version 01).

TexMac
10-26-2011, 06:42 PM
How do you download those pics off FB?

lucent
10-26-2011, 06:44 PM
Is this the finalized website?

seawolf
10-26-2011, 06:46 PM
Thank you to everyone who has worked to pull this together.....Let's PROMOTE THIS MONEY BOMB HARD for the next 15 Days.....

lucent
10-26-2011, 07:12 PM
We need banners.

LibertyEsq
10-26-2011, 07:15 PM
Is Dusman's competition code easily transferable to this site? If so we should get that up asap, it was a huge success

zerosdontcount
10-26-2011, 07:19 PM
Serve them now?

Sentinelrv
10-26-2011, 08:37 PM
We need banners.

The banners are here (http://www.supportthemnow.com/banners.html), but they haven't been updated with the new name and the website address yet.

lucent
10-26-2011, 10:27 PM
The current design is a little too sickly sweet patriotic for my tastes. I see enough red white and blue during campaign season. Oh well.

Sganet
10-28-2011, 02:45 AM
"END the WARS (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.131317706973174.21093.111744825597129&type=3)" facebook friendly, seamless, profile banner available, (version 01).

I'm rocking this on my fb!

lucent
10-28-2011, 04:25 AM
The banners are here (http://www.supportthemnow.com/banners.html), but they haven't been updated with the new name and the website address yet.

I am aware of those.

clackforronpaul
11-02-2011, 06:50 PM
please spread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QYEn5uXX4E

FreeTraveler
11-02-2011, 07:21 PM
please spread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QYEn5uXX4E

About 40 seconds in -- candidates has an extra T in it. Great video. :)

clackforronpaul
11-03-2011, 12:21 AM
I sadly didnt make that pie chart animation otherwise i would have corrected that

thanks though :)

Sganet
11-04-2011, 12:02 AM
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/pages/mbpledge_veteransday.html?pid=1103

A VETERAN's BEST FRIEND :eek::eek::eek:

FBappDev
11-04-2011, 12:56 PM
Rollin' with "Veteran's Best Friend" !!!