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pacodever
10-22-2011, 10:24 PM
:confused:

So which one are we promoting? I've found 3 different pledge sites and 2 different facebook event/communities for this There is a lot of confusion, at least on my part. Has anyone reached out to Veterans for Ron Paul 2012?

https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=262536453789154
https://www.facebook.com/pages/11-11-11-Veterans-Day-Money-Bomb-for-Ron-Paul/172111076188026

chris41336
10-22-2011, 10:50 PM
There is confusion in general. I started the BTH thread, and while alot of people agreed, there were also many who thought that other names might suit the moneybomb better.

The poll that was taken had a consensus leaning towards BTH, but I think more people wanted something along the lines of "Support our Troops: Bring them Home." You can see that thread for more details on that idea: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?324653-11-11-11-quot-Bring-Them-Home-quot-(BTH)-Moneybomb-Idea-Thread

We were still working on acquiring a domain name, last I heard. Nobody has had the time to start a FB group for it yet. but there are already both of those that you linked that are basically the same thing with different names.

This is a royal cluster****

parocks
10-22-2011, 11:30 PM
This has been settled for a long time

The donation page for Veterans Day Moneybomb is up and done
The facebook page for Veterans Day Moneybomb is up and done

The theme is basically - look at this good looking picture of Ron Paul in uniform.

Sounds good to me. Since this clearly was discussed before, and been settled, it's pretty simple.

http://vetsforpaul.com/
Ron Paul's Veterans Day Moneybomb 11.11.11
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...lanning-thread
Support The Troops Moneybomb


That's what I said on Friday, when people thought that there wasn't already a site and a moneybomb.

But There IS one.

Chris, IF you want to avoid creating a royal clusterfk, just support the original one, and tweak it.

A well known, well respected person here at rpf is doing this. (gage)

Anything else is troublemaking.

Gage, dusman, justinpagewood all have hot hands.

And no one complained when Gage set it up. The time for compaining was before.

parocks
10-22-2011, 11:33 PM
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=163195827101460

that's the facebook page

that facebook page has 422.

The 2 that you have both have less than 100.

pacodever
10-23-2011, 12:02 AM
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=163195827101460

that's the facebook page

that facebook page has 422.

The 2 that you have both have less than 100.

Well, the fact that alternate sites even exist already demonstrates a BIG disconnect. I'm not seeing an active thread on RPF for promoting the Ron Paul's Veterans Day Money Bomb FB event or site and it doesn't look like the site is active. (http://vetsforpaul.com/ lists 2 pledges and 8 facebook attendees).

Who owns the site and facebook event and what help do they need to get this rolling? OR where is the thread for coordinating the "official" effort?

Sentinelrv
10-23-2011, 12:40 AM
Dusman told me he's talking to Gage about rolling the BlackThisOut.com features into the new website, though I don't know if anything has come out of it yet. Hopefully we get the leaderboard and features like that up again.

Now about the names, "Veteran's Day Money Bomb" just sounds boring to me. I believe it wouldn't be that effective because it lacks emotion. "Support the Troops" can have multiple meanings to people as suggested before. It lacks an emotional punch because it's not specific enough. "Bring Them Home" though is a more emotionally energizing theme for Paul supporters. The theme itself is a goal: Bring the troops home by donating to Ron Paul's campaign!

You need to realize that the purpose of a money bomb is to raise as much money as possible. You do this by energizing supporters to promote the money bomb. In order to do this effectively there needs to be an emotional punch behind the theme. I think the "Bring Them Home" theme will help to rally a lot of supporters around the goal of bringing the troops home. It will also energize supporters, because there is a lot of emotion packed into the theme. I can see the promotional videos now.

And last I heard about the domain name www.BringThemHome.com, there was some conversation back and forth about purchasing it. I'm not sure if there's any new news on this though. If we were able to secure it, Gage could transfer the current website over to the new domain and change the name. Even if we can't secure it though, the current domain is pretty good.

eleganz
10-23-2011, 12:42 AM
kill the facebook pages until everything is confirmed.

I support bring them home though.

we need flyers asap since i'll be tabling next saturday.

realtonygoodwin
10-23-2011, 12:48 AM
Well, the fact that alternate sites even exist already demonstrates a BIG disconnect. I'm not seeing an active thread on RPF for promoting the Ron Paul's Veterans Day Money Bomb FB event or site and it doesn't look like the site is active. (http://vetsforpaul.com/ lists 2 pledges and 8 facebook attendees).

Who owns the site and facebook event and what help do they need to get this rolling? OR where is the thread for coordinating the "official" effort?

Why not use the original thread, which parocks linked?

parocks
10-23-2011, 12:52 AM
I'm comfortable with just letting Dusman and Gage figure it out. They'll come to a satisfactory result that as many as possible will be happy with.

Or that's exactly what you're doing, providing feedback to Dusman and Gage.

Any number of URLs can point to the site on vetsforpaul.com that gage and dusman are working on.

Everyone can stop doing new facebooks. the one that gage and dusman are working on is the right one.

Dusman, in case some weren't paying attention, is the guy who made the blackthisout.com site which people liked.

parocks
10-23-2011, 01:09 AM
Dusman told me he's talking to Gage about rolling the BlackThisOut.com features into the new website, though I don't know if anything has come out of it yet. Hopefully we get the leaderboard and features like that up again.

Now about the names, "Veteran's Day Money Bomb" just sounds boring to me. I believe it wouldn't be that effective because it lacks emotion. "Support the Troops" can have multiple meanings to people as suggested before. It lacks an emotional punch because it's not specific enough. "Bring Them Home" though is a more emotionally energizing theme for Paul supporters. The theme itself is a goal: Bring the troops home by donating to Ron Paul's campaign!

You need to realize that the purpose of a money bomb is to raise as much money as possible. You do this by energizing supporters to promote the money bomb. In order to do this effectively there needs to be an emotional punch behind the theme. I think the "Bring Them Home" theme will help to rally a lot of supporters around the goal of bringing the troops home. It will also energize supporters, because there is a lot of emotion packed into the theme. I can see the promotional videos now.

And last I heard about the domain name www.BringThemHome.com, there was some conversation back and forth about purchasing it. I'm not sure if there's any new news on this though. If we were able to secure it, Gage could transfer the current website over to the new domain and change the name. Even if we can't secure it though, the current domain is pretty good.

It should be a lot easier for dusman to put the features on the new site than it was to make the features in the first place. Any new domain could simply be forwarded to where the site sits. Nothing would necessarily have to move.

lucent
10-23-2011, 01:17 AM
Dusman told me he's talking to Gage about rolling the BlackThisOut.com features into the new website, though I don't know if anything has come out of it yet. Hopefully we get the leaderboard and features like that up again.

Last I heard Gage hasn't been very cooperative.



Any number of URLs can point to the site on vetsforpaul.com that gage and dusman are working on.

dusman has nothing to do with vetsforpaul.com.

Sentinelrv
10-23-2011, 01:41 AM
Last I heard Gage hasn't been very cooperative.

That's not a very good sign and it's something I was afraid of. That's why I wanted to have this website up and ready before the 19th, so we didn't run into problems with people trying to take over that wouldn't help out in the planning threads. We need people running this that will be a filter for implementing new ideas, not people who don't participate in discussions period. If this is the case, I'd rather have Dusman take the lead again and make a new website. We would let the market decide which one to promote.