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InTradePro
10-20-2011, 01:33 PM
Chris Hedges is an American journalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges), author, and war correspondent, specializing in American and Middle Eastern politics and societies


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8UlxhfJLw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8UlxhfJLw

Chris Hedges: "I don't think there is any danger of this movement being seduced or co-opted by moveon.org or the democratic party or the teamsters or anyone else."

dannno
10-20-2011, 01:36 PM
What? They already have been, and one of the people who helped start the entire movement has been talking about it.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?323391-OWS-Organizers-Blast-MoveOn-Many-protesters-support-Ron-Paul



David DeGraw – one of the primary Wall Street protest organizers – just sent me the following email:

Top MoveOn leaders / executives are all over national television speaking for the movement. fully appreciate the help and support of MoveOn, but the MSM is clearly using them as the spokespeople for OWS. This is an blatant attempt to fracture the 99% into a Democratic Party organization. The leadership of MoveON are Democratic Party operatives. they are divide and conquer pawns. For years they ignored Wall Street protests to keep complete focus on the Republicans, in favor of Goldman's Obama and Wall Street's Democratic leadership.

If anyone at Move On or Daily Kos would like to have a public debate about these comments, we invite it.

Please help us stop this divide and conquer attempt.
DeGraw - who is wholly non-partisan [like the writers at Washington's Blog] - tells me that about half of the protesters are liberals, but the other half are libertarians (and see this.)

FrankRep
10-20-2011, 01:40 PM
Poll Declares Majority of Zuccotti Park OWS Would Vote for Obama (http://www.infowars.com/poll-declares-majority-of-zuccotti-park-ows-would-vote-for-obama/)

Infowars
October 20, 2011


According to the results of Schoen’s poll (http://www.douglasschoen.com/pdf/Occupy_Wall_Street_Poll_Douglas_Schoen.pdf), most participants do not identify with a political party (33%). A slightly smaller number (32%) identify themselves as Democrats. 6% openly call themselves socialists while an identical number claim to be Libertarians. Sadly, only 1% identify themselves as Constitutionalists.

A full 74% of those who claim they voted in the last election (56%) say they voted for Obama.

48% say they would vote to re-elect Obama, while only 25% say no and 27% indicate they are unsure.

Remarkably, a full 44% say they approve of the job of Obama’s doing.

bunklocoempire
10-20-2011, 01:42 PM
"Occupy Express" bus coming to a town near you.




Bunkloco

InTradePro
10-20-2011, 01:53 PM
What? They already have been, and one of the people who helped start the entire movement has been talking about it.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?323391-OWS-Organizers-Blast-MoveOn-Many-protesters-support-Ron-Paul

Thank you.

Where do you get information from David DeGraw? Does he post on the internet, have a blog or something?

InTradePro
10-20-2011, 01:56 PM
Poll Declares Majority of Zuccotti Park OWS Would Vote for Obama (http://www.infowars.com/poll-declares-majority-of-zuccotti-park-ows-would-vote-for-obama/)

Infowars
October 20, 2011


According to the results of Schoen’s poll (http://www.douglasschoen.com/pdf/Occupy_Wall_Street_Poll_Douglas_Schoen.pdf), most participants do not identify with a political party (33%). A slightly smaller number (32%) identify themselves as Democrats. 6% openly call themselves socialists while an identical number claim to be Libertarians. Sadly, only 1% identify themselves as Constitutionalists.

A full 74% of those who claim they voted in the last election (56%) say they voted for Obama.

48% say they would vote to re-elect Obama, while only 25% say no and 27% indicate they are unsure.

Remarkably, a full 44% say they approve of the job of Obama’s doing.

This is a democrat poll.
"Douglas Schoen, a Democrat Party pollster, recently sent a polling firm into Zuccotti Park and attempted a somewhat professional polling of the OWS crowd."

So, it says they are democrats, but it is a biased poll. part of the co-opting process.

ItsTime
10-20-2011, 01:58 PM
That is like saying the tea party wont get co-oped by neo-cons.

pcosmar
10-20-2011, 02:00 PM
Thank you.

Where do you get information from David DeGraw? Does he post on the internet, have a blog or something?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP3oRwXI558

More info here.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322139-Wayback-Machine.-%28when-did-this-start-%29

dannno
10-21-2011, 02:58 PM
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Dear MoveOn member,

The Occupy Wall Street movement has put economic justice in the spotlight. The whole country is talking about how we can end the big banks' excessive influence and Make Wall Street Pay to rebuild the economy for everyone.1

That's why, next week in _____________, there's a meeting for folks to come together to plan ways to Make Wall Street Pay in our own communities. We'll focus on specific targeted campaigns that hold the big banks accountable.

The meeting is on Sunday, Oct. 23, 2011, at 1:30 PM in ___________. Can you attend?

Yes, I'll be there!

I can't make this event, but I want to join in local actions against the big banks.

How is this connected to Occupy Wall Street? Our goal is to launch targeted local campaigns to complement the amazing work being done by brave Occupy Wall Street protesters—something MoveOn members around the country have been asking for. And we'll continue to do everything we can to support and stand in solidarity with #Occupy.

There are plenty of ways to take action to Make Wall Street Pay—from helping homeowners facing illegal foreclosures to a campaign encouraging municipalities, schools, and organizations to move their money to local banks to protesting at branches of Wall Street banks. But only people in ___________ know what will work best in your community. That's why it's so important to attend a Make Wall Street Pay planning meeting in your area.

Your nearest Make Wall Street Pay meeting is in ___________ on Sunday, Oct. 23, 2011, at 1:30 PM. Can you attend?

Yes, I'll be there!

I can't make this event, but I want to join in local actions against the big banks.

Thanks for all you do.

–Lenore, Ryan, Joan, Laura, and the rest of the team