Good or Bad, I think it's high time we Remember the 5th of November!

[rich34]

I'm sorry, but you just can't beat the theme. It might not bring in another 4 million, but even 2 million would be great and the Veterans day money bomb will pull in another million. We gotta throw every thing and the kitchen sink at this. Ron Paul can handle any bad press if there is any and any press is good press the way it['s been going. I'm no web guy or would set this up. We gotta get the campaign as much money as possible!

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

My Birthday is November 6th.

I'm reserving my birthday wish for our nation.

[Joseph]

the next moneybomb has to be Nov 5th a lot of people will donate anyway and It's what sparked the whole successfulness of the moneybomb concept in the first place. November 5th is historic within the r3evolution and a moneybomb on Novemeber 5th just seems right.

[rich34]

the next moneybomb has to be Nov 5th a lot of people will donate anyway and It's what sparked the whole successfulness of the moneybomb concept in the first place. November 5th is historic within the r3evolution and a moneybomb on Novemeber 5th just seems right.

Tell that to the powers that be on this site. I think the positive will outweigh the negative. And as you said, a lot of people will already be donating that day anyway so why not turn it into a million dollar day? Or 2, 3, or 4 :-)

[linusPAULing]

The 11.11.11 Bring The Troops Home MB is a theme that will unite the entire R3VOLution, from the Blue Republicans to the Libertarians to the true Conservatives.

The promotional videos could be extremely moving!

If anyone wants to donate on 11.5.11, though, we should be all for it!

[rich34]

The 11.11.11 Bring The Troops Home MB is a theme that will unite the entire R3VOLution, from the Blue Republicans to the Libertarians to the true Conservatives.

The promotional videos could be extremely moving!

If anyone wants to donate on 11.5.11, though, we should be all for it!

I'm saying we do both! Will it dilute the single one, possibly, but imo having both we'll come out with more money on top. Do the 5th and get questions about being un-American, but then following it up with the 11th will shut them up by showing our patriotism/support for veterans. It's a win win imo.

[torchbearer]

i will be donating on Nov 5th and Dec 15th.
those dates mean something to me.

[Napolitanic Wars]

Meh. Guy Fawks was not Thomas Paine. He was a stooge for the Pope. I prefer this:

Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
The Ron Paul r3VOLution was fought,
I can see no solution for the Paul r3VOLution,
But to never be forgot.

[ctiger2]

Love it or hate it, there's a catchy phrase to use "Remember Remember the 5th of November" and look at all the Guy Fawkes masks on #OWS. It's just great for advertising. This is grass roots baby. Do it Do it.

[rich34]

Looks like one of the mods has already given this thread a 1 star.. Trying to discourage the grassroots!

[07041826]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wrPtz0sDc I donated on 11/05/07 and will do the same this year!

[torchbearer]

Meh. Guy Fawks was not Thomas Paine. He was a stooge for the Pope. I prefer this:

Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
The Ron Paul r3VOLution was fought,
I can see no solution for the Paul r3VOLution,
But to never be forgot.

i take it you are not a history buff.
guy fawkes was a man fighting against police state using the same methods the cia attributes to blow back for occupation.

[torchbearer]

Looks like one of the mods has already given this thread a 1 star.. Trying to discourage the grassroots!

rest assured, a one star vote on a thread is about as useful as trying to stop the tide of the oceans by using a 5 gallon bucket to bail the rising water.

[CJLauderdale4]

i take it you are not a history buff.
guy fawkes was a man fighting against police state using the same methods the cia attributes to blow back for occupation.

torchbearer still breakin' it down, even 4 years later! nice!

[rich34]

rest assured, a one star vote on a thread is about as useful as trying to stop the tide of the oceans by using a 5 gallon bucket to bail the rising water.

Torch, just wanted to say I've always admired your posts and agree with you on most things I see posted.

[KingNothing]

i take it you are not a history buff.
guy fawkes was a man fighting against police state using the same methods the cia attributes to blow back for occupation.

Guy Fawkes did what he did because of religion, dude.

[cero]

still against the idea, but you guys can do w/e you want hehe

[Napolitanic Wars]

I am a history buff. I'm a history major in fact. I don't understand what is in the minds of those who actually admire Guy Fawks. Fawks lived in a time divided by political power in the hands of the Pope, or power in the hands of state churches. He chose to serve the Pope.

Let's not distort history because of a comic book movie about a guy in a halloween mask.

[cero]

I am a history buff. I'm a history major in fact. I don't understand what is in the minds of those who actually admire Guy Fawks. Fawks lived in a time divided by political power in the hands of the Pope, or power in the hands of state churches. He chose to serve the Pope.

Let's not distort history because of a comic book movie about a guy in a halloween mask.
shinny mask....

[torchbearer]

Guy Fawkes did what he did because of religion, dude.

of course. anglicans were persecuting catholics. using state violence against them. religion in the scenario is superficial to the dynamics that led to the blowback.

[torchbearer]

I am a history buff. I'm a history major in fact. I don't understand what is in the minds of those who actually admire Guy Fawks. Fawks lived in a time divided by political power in the hands of the Pope, or power in the hands of state churches. He chose to serve the Pope.

Let's not distort history because of a comic book movie about a guy in a halloween mask.

i don't recall the papal decree calling for violence against england. can you point me to this info?

[V3n]

November 11th is Veteran's Day, and that is the ONLY day in November that we should attach to Ron Paul (veteran).

If you want to donate on November 5, that is your prerogative. I believe it will only subtract from the amount that would have been raised on the 11th, but we're not breaking records here, so do what you're going to do. All donations are welcome.

However, if I see anyone trying to promote November 5th as a moneybomb date, I will actively try to dissuade it. That is my prerogative.

The media had a field day trying to humiliate Ron Paul as a 'Guy Fawkes wanna be' because we chose that day in the past, and I do not want to see that happen again.
But that's just me.

[KingNothing]

I am a history buff. I'm a history major in fact. I don't understand what is in the minds of those who actually admire Guy Fawks. Fawks lived in a time divided by political power in the hands of the Pope, or power in the hands of state churches. He chose to serve the Pope.

Let's not distort history because of a comic book movie about a guy in a halloween mask.

but... but... V FOR VANDETTA, MAAAN!

[KingNothing]

I think it would be sweet if a ton of people donated on November 5th. And November 11th. And every other day that Paul is running.

Anything you guys can do to finance the campaign is OK by me.

[LibertyEsq]

The last thing we need with Cain about to implode is bad press. Especially with OWS going on, the GOP will think Paul gets all his money from OWS. Surefire way to fail

[torchbearer]

I think it would be sweet if a ton of people donated on November 5th. And November 11th. And every other day that Paul is running.

Anything you guys can do to finance the campaign is OK by me.

competition is good. let's make it a contest then. which day can we raise the most funds for ron. sounds like a win-win.

[Arklatex]

What's the deal with the anti-Nov 5th sentiment here? I don't understand.

It seemed to work out really well and with OWS I can only imagine it being stronger.

[V3n]

What's the deal with the anti-Nov 5th sentiment here? I don't understand.

It seemed to work out really well and with OWS I can only imagine it being stronger.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc4OJWH1nE

Not that I care what Glenn Beck says, but EVERY NEWS OUTLET said this.

We're trying to win an election here, let's not be stupid.

[Zarn Solen]

I get Guy Fawkes means something to people, but it isn't something that I personally feel a connection at all. I'm not a Guy Fawkes fan, and I never will be.

I have family members that are active duty and veterans. Veterans Day means the world to me. Paul''s election means that other people's family members can come back home. Active duty personnel will no longer have to live with the torment of being so far away among people who don't want you there. Not only that, but there are jerks in your own forces that make coexistence with locals much harder, and you know the higher ups don't have a real plan in terms of anything. Emphasizing Veterans Day means Paul supports our troops. It is a clear cut point that will hit conservatives, Blue Republicans, moderates, and of course libertarians. The more Paul is lined up shoulder to shoulder with our soldiers, the better his image in the Republican primaries. After all, this makes his foreign policy look a lot less crazy and a lot more pro-USA. The voters do think his foreign policy is nuts, but this could change that. Unfortunately, I do not think other people will embrace this concept. To me, it's the best kill shot we have.

If you want to donate on the 5th, I say go ahead. I won't. A cyber attack is planned, and the day is meaningless to me. Perhaps the message of Veterans Day is meaningless to others, but it is something where I definitely have a personal attachment.

[Arklatex]

So it got us free press and 4 million! I'm all for it!!

[Ben Richards]

What's the deal with the anti-Nov 5th sentiment here? I don't understand.

It seemed to work out really well and with OWS I can only imagine it being stronger.

OWS is advocating for socialism. It is a collectivist movement and I want nothing to do with it. Some of the people are right on some of the issues, but as a whole it is a waste and if Ron Paul were legitimately tied to it, it would look foolish. Also, regardless of how you feel about the actions of Anonymous, they are another group that shouldn't directly be tied to Ron Paul, which the November 5 date would do.

[Arklatex]

If yall didn't talk about anonymous so much I'd never know they existed.

[V3n]

So it got us free press and 4 million! I'm all for it!!

The day didn't, the donations did. We can receive just as many (probably more) donations on Veteran's Day (Ron Paul receives more donations from active duty military than all the other candidates combined).
All the free press was negative press.
If you want to contribute on that day, please do.
If you want to promote that as an official moneybomb, I have to disagree.

[Napolitanic Wars]

i don't recall the papal decree calling for violence against england. can you point me to this info?

I don't recall mentioning anything like that. I don't recall Queen Mary I being given such orders either. Guy Fawks did not want liberty. He wanted England to be under control of a foreign religious institution in the Vatican instead of the state Church of England. I don't condone the Anglican Church any more than I condone Bloody Mary or the US Government, but too glorify Fawks' desire to blow up Parliament so he could bow to a Bishop is to weaken what the founding fathers fought for and believed. It is the equivalent of glorifying Bin Laden himself.

[bolidew]

The last thing we need with Cain about to implode is bad press. Especially with OWS going on, the GOP will think Paul gets all his money from OWS. Surefire way to fail
I think you are on to something. 11.5 could end up very bad.

[TheTyke]

It's a terrible idea... not only with it associate us with Fawkes again, but now with OWS. What a great way to sink our best chance in history to elect an honest and constitutional president. Even IF it brought in a few more bucks, and gave you a little satisfaction of re-enacting your favorite movie, it wouldn't be worth it. I'm here to win. I voted 1 star and I'm not a mod... the community too voted well against it. Nice try at misdirecting though.

[V3n]

If yall didn't talk about anonymous so much I'd never know they existed.

Then you must have a very narrow scope of media sources, unfortunately the majority of the United States has a very wide scope of source and they know "anonymous is evil" and if we in any way can be tied to them in the media, we will be. Then the majority of the United States will see us as nothing more than "terrorists".

Once the media marries the image of one "Anonymous" mask with one "Ron Paul supporter" mask, this election is over. Do you want Ron Paul to win, or do you want to donate on a specific day because it makes you feel good?

[Arklatex]

Ok, chances are there will be zero mention of the veterans day moneybomb on TV. We will see. Glenn Beck calling us Terrorists was a major boost, If I remember it got Paul a whole hour of TV which is worth major $$$$$$

Major fail in discouraging Nov 5th, there is still time, someone take it up and I'd donate again.

[torchbearer]

I don't recall mentioning anything like that. I don't recall Queen Mary I being given such orders either. Guy Fawks did not want liberty. He wanted England to be under control of a foreign religious institution in the Vatican instead of the state Church of England. I don't condone the Anglican Church any more than I condone Bloody Mary or the US Government, but too glorify Fawks' desire to blow up Parliament so he could bow to a Bishop is to weaken what the founding fathers fought for and believed. It is the equivalent of glorifying Bin Laden himself.

i glorify the resistance to state violence. at its core- the retaliation planned was stiking back in defense of self-determination.
all other motivations are suppositions.

[torchbearer]

i must admit this debate is tame as compared to the blimp.

[Esoteric]

Looks like one of the mods has already given this thread a 1 star.. Trying to discourage the grassroots!

We.. Are .. the 99%! Rage against the mods! lol

PS - I vote for the 5th. Why not.

[Arklatex]

Cain going after Paul would be great. That means air time baby!

[V3n]

PS - I vote for the 5th. Why not.

Because we're smarter and we're trying to win an election.

[Arklatex]

Paul has the best Character of all, don't be fearful. We need exposure and money!

[JoshLowry]

No disrespect.

Ya'll can donate on any date you want of course, but I don't want it promoted here.

Nystrom at the Daily Paul said he is going with the 11-11-11 MB as well.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?307435-Facepalm-Hacker-Group-Anonymous-Vows-To-Destroy-Facebook-On-November-5

http://www.businessinsider.com/anonymous-facebook-2011-8


Hacktivist group Anonymous, which has been responsible for cyber-attacks on the Pentagon, News Corp, and others, has vowed to destroy Facebook on November 5th (which should ring a bell).

Citing privacy concerns and the difficulty involved in deleting a Facebook account, Anonymous hopes to "kill Facebook," the "medium of communication [we] all so dearly adore."

This isn't the first time Anonymous has spoken out against social networks.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=435&d=1312931440


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2N3HMhPvUg&t=2m01s


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394071,00.asp#fbid=caPRBXDiNtp

Wouldn't it be smart if the government did the above in the name of anonymous ala Operation Northwoods? (Since then nothing has come of it.)

Then Senator Rockefeller could get his legislation passed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY





It's theater carried by the news for whatever reason.

All of these stories about anonymous doing stuff that benefits and justifies, in the sheeples eyes, the big government are stories that went viral on the net and off.

There have been a number of FUD television newscasts about these attacks as well.

I find the appearance of a Veteran/Peace/Support The Troops moneybomb more appealing. The Black THIS Out moneybomb shows plenty of anger.

Oh, and a rather famous anon group endorsed Ron Paul in a tweet.

Anonymous welcomes Ron Paul as president in Tweet. (http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/08/anonymous-endorses-ron-paul-pretty-much/)

We are nearly five years smarter politically.

I'd rather these stories of anonymous not be picked up and tied together by the MSM and used to knock Ron Paul's poll numbers down.

Anonymous doesn't always agree with one another, but the media will be happy to make the connection.

Hopefully you can see why talk of the 5th moneybomb has been shunned.

You can promote it wherever you like, but I don't want anything to do with it on this site. Sorry...

[Napolitanic Wars]

i glorify the resistance to state violence.

Well, that is a noble cause.


the retaliation planned was stiking back in defense of self-determination.

Fawks wanted the OPPOSITE of self-determination. He wanted the Catholic Church to be back in power and to regulate England's affairs. The Anglican Church was at least sovereign to England. As Ron would say, we can "understand the motivations" of November 5, but to praise it....

[Sentinelrv]

Besides the 5th being a bad date for all the reasons stated, it doesn't give us enough time to promote it. 15 days after Friday isn't enough time.

[Agorism]

Nystrom at the Daily Paul said he is going with the 11-11-11 MB as well.

DailyPaul tends to censor very little though.

[torchbearer]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_kDyMtZ_dJwQ/SYvuBpNWRAI/AAAAAAAAAok/92dWDuSi4E8/s400/digger_stuck_in_mud.jpg

[Arklatex]

Who cares about Anonymous? It will be a non event and has no correlation to us!! What are you so scared of? If the media or another candidate gave us air time over it then it would work to our advantage! You now that!

Let the forum decide.

[JoshLowry]

You guys think Newscorp will give us a break when were sitting at 16% nationally in early November?

I don't think most of the forum is aware of what I just posted.

And worth repeating... I find the appearance of a Veteran/Peace/Support The Troops moneybomb more appealing.

[Sentinelrv]

Besides the 5th being a bad date for all the reasons stated, it doesn't give us enough time to promote it. 15 days after Friday isn't enough time.

In case anyone didn't see this, 15 days is not enough time to organize and promote it. 11/11/11 gives us 21 days to promote, which is even less than we had for BTO.

[Sentinelrv]

You guys think Newscorp will give us a break when were sitting at 16% nationally in early November?

I don't think most of the forum is aware of what I just posted.

And worth repeating... I find the appearance of a Veteran/Peace/Support The Troops moneybomb more appealing.

It will also help in bringing more Republican voters over to Dr. Paul, because our promotion for the event would be centered around the troops. Many people have a misunderstanding of Paul's foreign policy. Promotion like this I think would help to convert a lot of new people that have this misunderstanding, people that believe Ron is blaming the troops or America.

[Karsten]

I for one have not forgotten the 5th of November!

[Karsten]

But you know... since we are so split on this (and since it appears 6 million is much harder to obtain this year for a single day than in 2007), I say the only way to resolve it is to do both. Promote whichever you agree with, and donate to whichever one you agree with, or both! Let the market decide!

[Arklatex]

I don't think 6 days matters at all, we'll raise a ton more cash on Nov 5th. I have spoken!

[XTreat]

The war issue is my number one issue. I support the 11.11.11 money bomb it's much more appealing to a wider range of voters = more money.

[JoshLowry]

But you know... since we are so split on this (and since it appears 6 million is much harder to obtain this year for a single day than in 2007), I say the only way to resolve it is to do both. Promote whichever you agree with, and donate to whichever one you agree with, or both! Let the market decide!

That free market includes private property rights, correct?

:D

[PaulConventionWV]

If yall didn't talk about anonymous so much I'd never know they existed.

That's usually how it works. People hear about things through family, friends, casual hearsay, and so on. If you happen to be particularly interested in politics, you will be more likely to hear about OWS.

[seapilot]

I don't think 6 days matters at all, we'll raise a ton more cash on Nov 5th. I have spoken!

No need to promote Nov 5th for the Old Guard. They already know about it since they made it happen. It started this big ball rolling and at least after that more people heard of Ron Paul. Its the original money bomb date. Doubt it will raise anywhere near the original amount, but hey if it happens its all good!

[Ray]

I'm going to see Ron Paul speak in St. Cloud on Nov the 5th :)

[michaelkellenger]

Guy Fawkes was the epitome of anti-liberty. He wanted to kill people and destroy property, the definition of anti-liberty.

[Karsten]

Guy Fawkes was the epitome of anti-liberty. He wanted to kill people and destroy property, the definition of anti-liberty.

What about V?

[Karsten]

We just need donations period. It doesn't matter what day it's on.

[Karsten]

The media won't cover it anyway nomatter which day we pick. While 11.11 might seems more pleasing to regular Republicans, Ron Paul people would probably get more energized for the 5th of November.

That said I'll be supporting both.

[zHorns]

11.11.11, end of story.

We settled this months ago and now we bring it back up?

Forget November 5th, they painted us as a bunch of violence cult members wanting to overthrow the Government.

You can donate on November 5th, like everyday, but we shouldn't actively promote it as a Moneybomb day.

We are doing so well this time, let's not screw it up. I doubt the official campaign would even get involved and from this thread it seems RPF and DP will not be either (good choice). Plus, 15 days isn't enough time.

[LibertasPraesidium]

11.11.11,

My bday is on the 4th of nov, and Ron Paul will be here in St Cloud, Minnesota on the 5th, so I would prefer the 5th. But Veterans day makes so much more sense for the larger picture. The videos that can be done would beat down the MSM and get people online.

[MJU1983]

The media won't cover it anyway nomatter which day we pick. While 11.11 might seems more pleasing to regular Republicans, Ron Paul people would probably get more energized for the 5th of November.

That said I'll be supporting both.

I think we've already won over the "Ron Paul people" - it's those "regular Republicans" we need to win a GOP Primary. ;)

[orenbus]

If we do 11/5 we lose. Get it through your heads people.

I like the idea of doing instead of a one day money bomb doing a week long money bomb starting November 4th and ending November 11th that way not only is everyone happy and it's not tied to one specific 24 hour period. Doing it that way would raise more money (since there would be universal support and marketing for this) and stay neutral because the fund raising is over the course of a week and can't be tied to one specific date. We could even call it "Patriots Week" or "A Week of Remembrance" something that also celebrates our right to elections (Election Day November 8th) and a number of other Patriotic dates in our history:




# November 04, 1845 The first nationally observed uniform election day in US
# November 04, 1924 Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming is elected as the first female governor in the United States.
# November 04, 1980 Ronald Reagan (R) beats President Jimmy Carter (R) by a landslide
# November 04, 1980 Ronald Wilson Reagan is elected as the 40th President of the United States of America.

# November 05, 1781 John Hanson elected first "President of the US in Congress assembled"
(The Articles of Confederation called for Congress to meet "on the first Monday in November, in every year....") On November 5, 1781, John Hanson of Maryland became the first President of Congress to be elected to an annual term as specified under the Articles of Confederation

# November 06, 1860 Abraham Lincoln (R-Ill-Rep) elected 16th President

# November 07, 1805 Lewis and Clark sight the Pacific Ocean
# November 07, 1874 The first cartoon depicting elephant as Republican Party symbol, by T Nast
# November 07, 1893 Women in the U.S. state of Colorado are granted the right to vote.
# November 07, 1916 Jeannette Rankin is the first women elected to the United States Congress.
# November 07, 1932 Buck Rogers in the 25th Century airs on radio for the first time. :)
# November 07, 1973 NJ becomes first state to allow girls into the little league

# November 08, 1864 Abraham Lincoln elected to his 2nd term as President
# November 08, 1889 Montana becomes the 41st state of the Union.
# November 08, 1942 WWII Operation Torch begins as U.S. and British forces land in French North Africa.
# November 08, 1966 Edward W Brooke (Rep-R-MA) becomes first black elected to Senate
# November 08, 1966 Movie actor Ronald Reagan elected governor of California
# November 09, 1989 Cold War: Fall of the Berlin Wall. Communist-controlled East Germany opens checkpoints in the Berlin Wall allowing its citizens to freely travel to West Germany. People start demolishing the Berlin Wall.

# November 10, 1928 Playing against Army at Yankee Stadium, Notre Dame football coach Knute Rockne gives what is considered the greatest locker room speeches of all time by saying "Win one for the Gipper." The Fighting Irish would win the game 12-6.
# November 10, 1775 Birth of the United States Marine Corps! OORAH! - USA
November 10, 1938 Kate Smith, on her weekly radio show, sings Irving Berlin's God Bless America for the first time.
# November 10, 1951 Direct long-distance dialing between the east and west coasts of the U.S. begins today with a call between the mayors of Englewood, NJ and Alameda, CA.

# November 11, 1839 The Virginia Military Institute is founded in Lexington, Virginia.
# November 11, 1865 Mary Edward Walker, the first female Army surgeon, awarded Medal of Honor
# November 11, 1918 World War I ends: Germany signs an armistice agreement with the Allies in a railroad car outside of Compigne in France. The war officially stops at 11:00 (The eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month).
# November 11, 1921 The Tomb of the Unknowns is dedicated by US President Warren G. Harding at Arlington National Cemetery.
# November 11, 1922 Largest US flag displayed (150' X 90') expanded in 1939 (270' X 90')
# November 11, 1983 President Reagan became first US President to address Japan's legislature


http://www.datesinhistory.com/nov04.php
http://www.datesinhistory.com/nov11.php

I agree pinning us down to Veterans day is going to end up costing the campaign probably millions of dollars, but then again I also understand the other side of the argument we don't want to be tied to November 5th as tightly for reasons of potentially harming the campaign through misinterpretation of the even through public relations, because of other groups possibly doing other things that day such as Anonymous, etc.

Also lately it seems our money bombs at the request of the campaign has spilled over at minimum a few hours to a entire weekend to reach a specific goal whether it's going past $1 million, etc. So doing a week long fund raising event isn't really that foreign or strange and remember we are the dreamers of dreams. Who ever said a money bomb needed to be just a 24 hour period?

Because every sub group in the grassroots would be able to enjoy this week of fund raising it gives them the flexibility to independently decide to promote it and have fun while doing it which means more visibility and promotion which in return brings in millions of more dollars to the campaign.

[lucent]

November 5th is just way too early, even if there wasn't an issue with the theme of the actual money bomb. Even November 11th is cutting it way too close.

[orenbus]

In case anyone didn't see this, 15 days is not enough time to organize and promote it. 11/11/11 gives us 21 days to promote, which is even less than we had for BTO.

Even with 21 days to prepare the fact is 11/11 will never be able to raise as much money as 11/5 would, you could give it 5 days for promotion and 11/5 would still raise more lol.

[orenbus]

The next national sign bomb is already set for 11/5:

http://www.ronpaulsignbomb.com/

And one thing we've forgotten from November 5, 2007 and December 16, 2007 is that to have an extremely effective MB (as pointed out in another thread) you have to associate it with some visible activist events such as rallies, sign waves, etc. This gets people to interact with each other and motivates those that would not normally donate to donate money by having those around them suggest they do so. It's nice to have a blackout protest in NYC in front of the media buildings, but having worked in media I can tell you these demonstrations outside buildings happen all the time. Demonstrations need to be on a national level in order to be effective. Also generates a buzz and energy beyond just internet advertising through social media (word of mouth).

Finally the idea of OWS or other groups trying to take over one of our two largest fund raising dates should not just be accepted as the cost of campaigning, especially when the cost runs in the millions that will be used for ad buys that will reach many more potential voters in targeted early states.


The next money bomb is 11/11/11. Should the sign bomb be moved?

More people will be motivated to do a national sign bomb on 11/5 and the organizers of the sign bomb are already coordinating efforts nationally for that date, would be easier just to move the MB.

[orenbus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-_rTyKa-xE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc8KvjI5ORU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3NkSd9Qgh0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t53W0xHqjeA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTmCzUisG4s

[lucent]

Each day the date is debated is one less day to promote it.

[1836]

Just posted a poll in Grassroots Central. Please go vote on it.

[CaptainAmerica]

I'm sorry, but you just can't beat the theme. It might not bring in another 4 million, but even 2 million would be great and the Veterans day money bomb will pull in another million. We gotta throw every thing and the kitchen sink at this. Ron Paul can handle any bad press if there is any and any press is good press the way it['s been going. I'm no web guy or would set this up. We gotta get the campaign as much money as possible! I know that people love november the 5th because of V for vendetta...but quite frankly if you look at the history behind Guy Fawkes hes no hero,and nothing to celebrate..he was attempted to blow up parliament because he was a theocrat and wanted theocracy just a different form of it.

[KingNothing]

Glenn Beck calling us Terrorists was a major boost


...ummm, no. It was not. It contributed to the current paradigm that we're trying to break out of.

[mczerone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc4OJWH1nE

Not that I care what Glenn Beck says, but EVERY NEWS OUTLET said this.

We're trying to win an election here, let's not be stupid.

Yeah. Because if we shy away from Nov 5th, we will only get positive press coverage... :rolleyes:

Stop trying to massage our movement into an establishment approved image. It won't work, and they'll find ways to ignore us, mock us, or otherwise attack us anyway. I'm sick of this desire to try to pretend that if we just stand up straight and play their game then somehow the media will be our friend. It's bullcrap. They're going to attack us no matter what our actions are, for they know we are their enemy.

I'm not big on Guy Fawkes, and I've never seen V for Vendetta. But I don't see how using Nov 5th as an important day would be a negative (on net) for the campaign.

[Esoteric]

In all likelihood, we will raise much more on a Nov 5 bomb.

[sadam]

I agree 5th of November is going to get donations any way might as well just have the money bomb that day.

[lucent]

In all likelihood, we will raise much more on a Nov 5 bomb.

November 5th money bomb has been banned on this forum by the moderators.

[JoshLowry]

November 5th money bomb has been banned on this forum by the moderators.

No, I banned it. Not moderators. For good enough reason. Sorry.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?324488-Good-or-Bad-I-think-it-s-high-time-we-Remember-the-5th-of-November!&p=3671505&viewfull=1#post3671505

I'm not interested in members fighting over which moneybomb people should be promoting.

So I went ahead and picked a side for RPF erring on the side of a news story that is less likely to be net negative.

That's my decision and I ask you to respect it. You can obviously do whatever you want on the rest of the world wide web.