Naomi Wolf arrested @ ows

[Sematary]

Naomi Wolf, the feminist activist and author, was arrested outside the 2011 Huffington Post Game Changers Awards last night, even though she is a regular Huffington Post contributor and attended the event as a guest.
Wolf became collateral damage when she emerged from the awards ceremony and saw police officers ordering a group of about 50 Occupy Wall Street protestors off the street outside the event, Time reports.
The protestors were upset by the fact that Gov. Cuomo was being honored as the Game Changer of the Year. Wolf came to the protestors' defense, and was cuffed and detained along with Avram Ludwig, smiling for the cameras.
Wolf took to Facebook to address the arrest this morning.

in other news, i learned that a group called @occupymarines (a group of ex maines) is giving material support and security to ows. does that mean (under joe liebermans plan) that they can be blown up now for giving material support to terrorists? /sarcasm

[wannaberocker]

Naomi Wolf is hot for her age. Other then that shes a nutbar.

[pcosmar]

Naomi Wolf is hot for her age. Other then that shes a nutbar.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

[Lothario]

I've seen a couple of her talks and some interviews she did with Lew Rockwell that I really liked.

[smartguy911]

Naomi Wolf is hot for her age. Other then that shes a nutbar.

I agree. she keeps getting hotter

[FrankRep]

I've seen a couple of her talks and some interviews she did with Lew Rockwell that I really liked.

Naomi Wolf > Political consultant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf#Political_consultant)



Naomi Wolf was involved in Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election bid, brainstorming with the president's team about ways to reach female voters. During Al Gore's unsuccessful bid for the presidency in the 2000 election, Wolf was hired as a consultant to target female voters, reprising her role in the Clinton campaign. Wolf's ideas and participation in the Gore campaign generated considerable media coverage and criticism.

[Lafayette]

She talks a good game but then all her credibility goes out the window when she supports people like Gore, Clinton and most recently Obama
She has been bashed with the partisan stick and no amount of brain surgery will correct her disorder.



in other news, i learned that a group called @occupymarines (a group of ex maines) is giving material support and security to ows. does that mean (under joe liebermans plan) that they can be blown up now for giving material support to terrorists? /sarcasm

Im sure you would have no problem if Pelosi, Reed, or Frank came up with the plan.

[Sematary]

She talks a good game but then all her credibility goes out the window when she supports people like Gore, Clinton and most recently Obama
She has been bashed with the partisan stick and no amount of brain surgery will correct her disorder.



Im sure you would have no problem if Pelosi, Reed, or Frank came up with the plan.

i'm pretty sure i would. what made you make that particular remark?

[pcosmar]

i'm pretty sure i would. what made you make that particular remark?

because he prefers the republican form of socialism over the democrat version.

And the constant bickering insures that we will never work together to address the real problems.

[FrankRep]

because he prefers the republican form of socialism over the democrat version.

And the constant bickering insures that we will never work together to address the real problems.
Naomi Wolf is not the champion of liberty.

[Lafayette]

i'm pretty sure i would. what made you make that particular remark?

Did you make the statement i quoted? I believe Noami Wolf did.




because he prefers the republican form of socialism over the democrat version.

And the constant bickering insures that we will never work together to address the real problems.

Of course thats why i support Ron Paul, post on these forums and donated in every money bomb since 2007 ... because i o so love that republican socialism.

WTF is wrong with you?

[pcosmar]

WTF is wrong with you?

Getting quite annoyed with partisan Politics.
Naomi Wolf does come from the left side of things, and I do not see eye to eye with her..
HOWEVER
She does make some excellent points in the video, and with regards to the direction the country is going.

To refuse to consider the valid points or common ground simply because of who she supported or voted for is,,,,
Just plain fucking STUPID.

[rambone]

I'd hit it.

[Lafayette]

Getting quite annoyed with partisan Politics.
Naomi Wolf does come from the left side of things, and I do not see eye to eye with her..
HOWEVER
She does make some excellent points in the video, and with regards to the direction the country is going.

To refuse to consider the valid points or common ground simply because of who she supported or voted for is,,,,
Just plain fucking STUPID.

As i said in my first post, she talks a good game, but any credibility she has goes out the window if you look at her history of action.

Yes, she does make excellent points, and i do not dismiss them but she is part of the problem when it comes to the partisan politics we both hate.

[pcosmar]

As i said in my first post, she talks a good game, but any credibility she has goes out the window if you look at her history of action.

Yes, she does make excellent points, and i do not dismiss them but she is part of the problem when it comes to the partisan politics we both hate.
Same could be said for anyone that voted or supported McCain or Bush.
She makes valid points about the Police State and Power structure in this country and following the same models that were in Nazi Germany (and elsewhere)

All controlled by the Same Money Masters that are destroying this country.
Unless we can get folks united and target the real problem,, we will be doomed to bicker over all the side issues while the country collapses.

[Lafayette]

Same could be said for anyone that voted or supported McCain or Bush.
She makes valid points about the Police State and Power structure in this country and following the same models that were in Nazi Germany (and elsewhere)


Valid yes, but again she seems to have no issue with her "team" doing the very things she speaks out against.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItK3UjpzUac

In this video shes quick to support punishing Bush and Co. for war crimes, then gives Obama and his team a pass because "his intentions are good" and "his staff are just following orders"

Can our movement work with her on issues we have in common, yes but i don't believe she is much of a friend to liberty.

[pcosmar]

Can our movement work with her on issues we have in common, yes but i don't believe she is much of a friend to liberty.

A Friend of Liberty.
Those are few and far between, on either side of the Isle.
Those that want to keep Americans divided into "Left" and "Right" are many. As long as we fight each other on the scraps left to us and ignore the root of the problems,, they win.

The original focus of the Wall Street protests was the Federal Reserve and the Bankers associated with them.
Adbusters joined the protest, and that may have been a mistake. They created the (#occupywallstreet) and brought some Marxist and radicals with. The media had a field day with that and has promoted it as such.
That will keep folks on the"right" away from the End the Fed focus and prevent any common ground.
Seems to be a very effective tactic.

[Lothario]

As i said in my first post, she talks a good game, but any credibility she has goes out the window if you look at her history of action.

Yes, she does make excellent points, and i do not dismiss them but she is part of the problem when it comes to the partisan politics we both hate.

People's ideologies change. Again - listen to her interviews with Lew Rockwell, where she expresses shame and disillusionment over the direction of her previous political support. She asks Lew a myriad of questions about libertarianism, and ends the interview essentially a convert to Ron Paul and libertarian ideology.

[Xenophage]

I'd hit it.

Isn't she a lesbian?

[heavenlyboy34]

Getting quite annoyed with partisan Politics.
Naomi Wolf does come from the left side of things, and I do not see eye to eye with her..
HOWEVER
She does make some excellent points in the video, and with regards to the direction the country is going.

To refuse to consider the valid points or common ground simply because of who she supported or voted for is,,,,
Just plain fucking STUPID.
qft! :cool: We should be building bridges, not burning them.

[heavenlyboy34]

Here's (http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2008/10/31/58-americas-slow-motion-fascist-coup/) Lew's first interview with Naomi, here's (http://www.lewrockwell.com/lewrockwell-show/2010/05/26/152-obamas-satanic-rogue-empire/) the second. (in the second, she's especially critical of the Obama regime)

[dannno]

Naomi Wolf
Ten Steps To Close Down an Open Society

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/ten-steps-to-close-down-a_b_46695.html

[dannno]

Isn't she a lesbian?

Not sure how that changes anything :confused:

I want to 'hit' plenty of straight chicks who would probably want nothing to do with me regardless of their sexual preferences :p

[ghengis86]

You should listen to Lew's interview with her last year (I think). You could actually hear her mind being blown when she got a dose of the truth about the state.

She has a bad history of supporting statist's but people can change. Hopefully her arrest will further her journey to the liberty movement. No reason to give up hope and trash her.

Plus, she looks good for her age.

[Bosco Warden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

This was a good read from what I remember, I remember this. I am pretty sure it was being directed at Bush at the time but the overall premise was good. I liked it. or should I say it was entertaining.

[pcosmar]

This was a good read from what I remember, I remember this. I am pretty sure it was being directed at Bush at the time but the overall premise was good. I liked it.

It was, but has continued and increased under Obama, which proves once again that there is not a damn bit of difference between them.

[heavenlyboy34]

It was, but has continued and increased under Obama, which proves once again that there is not a damn bit of difference between them. Exactly right. They are both owned by the same masters.

[Lothario]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCuax-3DeBc

[Jandrsn21]

qft! :cool: We should be building bridges, not burning them.
Agreed, if we can't agree with someone 100% we shouldn't cast them out. All that will do is make our group smaller and smaller and put us in a Ron Paul only bubble. Not smart going forward!

[wannaberocker]

I agree. she keeps getting hotter
Some women have that genetic makeup. Like fine wine they get hotter as they age.

Actually i think the other leftist Naomi is also hot (Naomi kline that is).

[wannaberocker]

Getting quite annoyed with partisan Politics.
Naomi Wolf does come from the left side of things, and I do not see eye to eye with her..
HOWEVER
She does make some excellent points in the video, and with regards to the direction the country is going.

To refuse to consider the valid points or common ground simply because of who she supported or voted for is,,,,
Just plain fucking STUPID.

Funny how you often reject the neo cons on the valid points they make. But whenever a leftist comes along you start talking about building bridges.

[moderate libertarian]

Naomi Wolf is hot for her age. Other then that shes a nutbar.

I remember anti Iraq war crowd used to same about Sarah Palin few years ago.


Looks like American Spring is spreading all over the place with an All American, diverse flavor of participants.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ehdnKm0cJBI/Tn-G-8eTO7I/AAAAAAAAAqs/mrnOm9o9eIg/s400/wail+st.jpg

[wannaberocker]

I remember anti Iraq war crowd used to same about Sarah Palin few years ago.


Looks like American Spring is spreading all over the place with an Al American, diverse flavor of participants.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ehdnKm0cJBI/Tn-G-8eTO7I/AAAAAAAAAqs/mrnOm9o9eIg/s400/wail+st.jpg

The anti war folks hate Palin's guts to a point where they cant even admire her beauty. THe slightly less radical ones are a diff story.

[pcosmar]

Funny how you often reject the neo cons on the valid points they make. But whenever a leftist comes along you start talking about building bridges.

Only on points of common ground, I would welcome a Neo-con that wished to End the Fed, or make any serious attempt at curbing corruption in Government.

The simple fact is,, we live in a socialist country. Neo-Cons are just as socialist as any progressive.

Fabian socialism is the rule rather than the exception. Either Trotsky "R" or Marxist "D" doesn't really matter much.
They is little difference between them.

And exactly what "Valid Points" made by Neo-Cons have I rejected? Please give examples and quotes.

[moderate libertarian]

The anti war folks hate Palin's guts to a point where they cant even admire her beauty. THe slightly less radical ones are a diff story.

Can't disagree with that. Truest admirers of her beauty came from pro war, pro torture right wing of GOP family values crowd.

http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/capt699c541841134170bb1e059c2839b76cmccain_2008_pa lin_pagh116.jpg

[wannaberocker]

Can't disagree with that. Truest admirers of her beauty came from pro war, pro torture right wing of GOP family values crowd.

http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/capt699c541841134170bb1e059c2839b76cmccain_2008_pa lin_pagh116.jpg

LMAO look on the guys faces in the front row. Priceless.

Id say truest admiration of her beauty comes from somewhere else. And that place has nothing to do with political party or idiology. Just saying not everything in the world is about politics.

[nayjevin]

http://gothamist.com/2011/10/19/naomi_wolf_on_her_arrest_video_i_wa.php


Feminist and activist Naomi Wolf appeared on MSNBC and discussed getting arrested last night in Soho (http://gothamist.com/2011/10/18/naomi_wolf_arrested_while_protestin.php) as she tried to stand up for the rights of Occupy Wall Street protesters. Wolf says that while the cops were telling protesters they weren't allowed to be on the sidewalk outside the event space—where Governor Cuomo was receiving an award from the Huffington Post—protesters actually were allowed to be there, because she checked what kind of permit the event organizers had.Wolf had been attending the event, since she contributes to HuffPo, and was concerned that the NYPD had moved protesters away from the event space, "Citizens have the right to peacefully obey the terms of the permit." She also noted a video of her arrest, pointing out she was standing still and speaking calmly with police officers (see below), and posted these notes on her Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/naomi.wolf.author):

i have been released from custody. I was completely complying with the law and the permit as it was described to me by police and I was arrested for standing lawfully on the sidewalk. I will post more tomorrow. Thank you for your messages of support...Also: some press reports say that I was arrested because I ignored police warnings to get off the sidewalk or that I was arrested for using a megaphone without a permit. Both of these are untrue. I told the protesters that the NYC permit requirement that states that using a megaphone is illegal (though the officer who arrested me used a megaphone) is an unverifiable untransparent requirement because it is basically made up by the administration, permits can be denied with no recourse for any reason, and that we have the right to freedom of speech and assembly. I also did not 'ignore' police warnings to get off the street. I DISAGREED with them because I knew the law and I knew that they were misinterpreting or misrepresenting the permit in question. There is no requirement in the permit to 'get off the street' if you are not obstructing traffic.
Wolf said on MSNBC that while she was not injured by police officers, cops moved her and her partner physically to the van, in spite of her requests to get a lawyer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt7pIhapo1o

[nayjevin]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/19/naomi-wolf-arrested-occupy-wall-street?INTCMP=SRCH


Naomi Wolf, the celebrated feminist author and campaigner, has been arrested at an Occupy Wall Street protest outside an awards ceremony held to honour New York's governor.

Wolf and a companion were led away in handcuffs from the street in front of Skylight Studios in Manhattan.

Inside, the New York state governor, Andrew Cuomo, was being presented with the "game changer of the year" award from the Huffington Post website, for which Wolf is a contributor.

She was detained after ignoring police warnings to stay off the street in front of the building and where a crowd of about 50 Occupy Wall Street protesters had gathered.

Wolf had been at the event, hosted by Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington and attended by a number of celebrities, including the reality TV star Kim Kardashian, who was presented with a "business leader" award.

The protesters arrived at the event in SoHo to demonstrate their support of a "millionaires' tax", which Cuomo, a Democrat, opposes.

According to Ryan Devereaux, a reporter for the liberal TV news organisation Democracy Now, some chanted: "Where is Cuomo? Protecting the 1%!"

There was a dispute with police, who said protesters were blocking the sidewalk. Wolf came and told them they "didn't need a permit for a megaphone".

According to another witness, Wolf objected to a police officer's assertion that the group were blocking the street. "Tell it to the judge," the officer is reported to have said.

It was unclear what charges Wolf, author of the best-selling book The Beauty Myth, might face. Most people detained during the month-long protests have been arrested on misdemeanors.

Witnesses said protesters marched to a nearby police precinct, where they chanted and sang songs. A police officer came out of the building and used the protesters' now-famous "human mic" call-and-response system to tell them Wolf had been released from another precinct after being issued with a summons.

Earlier in the evening, it was revealed that a New York Police Department investigation had censured a police officer who used pepper spray on Occupy Wall Street protesters last month.

Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna faces losing 10 vacation days after the incident on 24 September near Union Square, shortly after the protests began in lower Manhattan, according to the Associated Press.

Video from the protests shows a small group of mostly women corralled by orange netting used by officers to control crowds. Bologna approaches and seemingly without warning blasted a cluster of women with pepper spray. Two of the women crumple on the sidewalk in pain. One screams.

The incident sparked outrage by demonstrators and helped propel the movement into the media spotlight.

[nayjevin]

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150349266942949


This is Kalen, reposting Naomi's comments from last night since they are now buried on her page.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/19/naomi-wolf-arrested-occupy-wall-street?INTCMP=SRCH

Thank you all again for your support. Given the coverage, I feel that I should put on record a bit of what happened, full details in the am. The protesters were being told that they needed to leave the sidewalk outside of the Huffington Post event because "Huffington Post had a permit" to control the use of the sidewalk. I have a chapter in Give Me Liberty on NYC permits so I knew that could not be accurate. Sidewalks are public spaces and can't be leased by private entities. I asked for a copy of the permit. A spokesman finally acknowledged that the permit allowed for pedestrian access as long as it did not obstruct foot traffic on the sidewalk.

I said, okay, we won’t obstruct pedestrian traffic, we will just walk. SO I invited the OWS protesters to come back from across the street and walk with me in a single file so no one obstructed the flow of pedestrians. A phalanx of white-shirted police then approached us and with a megaphone said, "you are disobeying a lawful order to disperse and will be arrested.

I approached (respectfully and peacefully) the officer with the megaphone and said I was confused: the permit allowed us to walk if we did not obstruct traffic and we were not doing so. He stood before me and said "Will you get out of my way?" I did not say anything but I could not fall back because I knew he was misinterpreting the law.

The sidewalks were being properly handled by the protesters even according to the restrictive permit. I did not step aside so he indicated that I should be cuffed, and my hands were cuffed behind me with plastic handcuffs. My partner and I were taken, cuffed, in a police van to I believe the seventh precinct (they had planned to take us to the first, I am so grateful to protesters who appeared on our behalf at the first) where we were held in separate cells for about half an hour. My cell had blood or feces on the wall.

The staff were very courteous. But I was told that I would be released with a summons but that if I rejoined the protesters and got arrested my fingerprints would be taken, the sergeant gestured at a camera and said my photo would be taken, it would all be entered into a federal database and follow me forever. He also said if I spoke I should be careful not to say anything that could be construed as 'inciting a riot.' I said hadn't broken the law -- my summons was for 'disorderly conduct.

Many witnesses will confirm I stood perfectly still and addressed the officer with great courtesy. I said that we hadn’t broken the law according to the permit in question. He said that when an officer deems a situation as safety issue, it trumps the permit. I asked, then how can any situation not be subject to an officer deeming it a "safety issue'? He did not explain but gave me a section of the criminal code to look up.

I was arrested for disorderly conduct although my conduct was peaceful respectful law-abiding and orderly. I was arrested for not backing down when a police officer told me contrary to what I knew about the law and the permit process that a private entity owned the sidewalk. He was mistaken and I was correct. I behaved entirely lawfully and my arrest was unlawful.

[nayjevin]

http://libertyclick.com/blog/in-the-news/naomi-wolf-arrested/
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