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theczar1776
10-18-2011, 08:43 PM
Read the comments! I almost fell off my chair.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ron-paul-would-cut-all-foreign-aid-even-to-israel/

Feeding the Abscess
10-18-2011, 08:49 PM
Well, some of the supportive comments are wrong. Ron wouldn't send troops to die in the Middle East over Israel's problems.

Still, much better than the pablum spewed by Beck and Co.

FreedomProsperityPeace
10-18-2011, 08:56 PM
Could you list a couple of good quotes? To be honest, I don't want to give Beck any hits, especially for something that sounds like an attack article.

HeyArchie
10-18-2011, 08:59 PM
I'm so sick of the Zionists.

Okie RP fan
10-18-2011, 09:03 PM
"The Blaze"

That's Glenn Beck's site, isn't it?

Anyway, glad to see some people coming around that Israel is fine without feeding off of us. Trust us and Ron Paul, people! Israel will be fine!

DinahWest
10-18-2011, 09:06 PM
RP has already gone over this!

Withdrawing all foreign aide helps Israel!

1. Israel has about 30 nukes to defend itself(more than enough defense).
2. Israel's enemies get more foreign aide than Israel.
3. No foreign aide means the US butting out of Israel's business(no more dictating or interference).

iamse7en
10-18-2011, 09:06 PM
I knew as soon as he said that, the Blaze would have a post about it. Beck is obsessed. Jews will have their due. Read the Bible. But we don't need to be printing money to give them money. Let them take care of themselves. The messiah will throw down on the mount of olives.

sailingaway
10-18-2011, 09:08 PM
RP has already gone over this!

Withdrawing all foreign aide helps Israel!

1. Israel has about 30 nukes to defend itself(more than enough defense).
2. Israel's enemies get more foreign aide than Israel.
3. No foreign aide means the US butting out of Israel's business(no more dictating or interference).

Israel has about 300 nukes, actually. And we just sold them bunker busters.

DinahWest
10-18-2011, 09:09 PM
Israel has about 300 nukes, actually. And we just sold them bunker busters.

Oh yes, that's right. Makes the case even more.

Thanks!

chadhb
10-18-2011, 09:09 PM
Israel needs assurance young American men and woman, will be sent to the middle east, to fight their battles for them.

Lucille
10-18-2011, 09:11 PM
Is Ron Paul Good For Israel? (http://www.ilanamercer.com/phprunner/public_article_list_view.php?editid1=601)


So while it is true that the Israeli government will be (annually) $2.58 billion the poorer under a Paul administration, neighboring Muslim governments, most of which are ill-disposed toward Israel, will be deprived of much more than that. More material, the Israeli people will be the richer. Why so? Because, as any economist worth his salt knows, foreign aid, being a government-to-government transfer, grows the public sector in the recipient country at the expense of the private, productive economy. Warren Buffet, after all, recently chose to invest $4 billion in Israeli industry, not in the Israeli government. Like Mr. Buffet, Dr. Paul believes the Israeli people possess in abundance what economist Lord Peter Bauer called ‘the faculties, attitudes and institutions favorable to material progress.’

The American people are generous to a fault. Private foreign aid in the US greatly exceeds U.S. government aid. Naturally, under a low- or no-tax Paul administration, Jews, evangelicals, and Israel’s other benefactors will continue to give privately—and, in fact, will have more disposable income to part with.

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE. For foreign aid, Israeli leaders have been forced to subordinate their country’s national interests to Washington’s whims. This is bad for both allies. Those of us who want the U.S. to stay solvent—and out of the affairs of others—recognize that sovereign nation-states that resist, not enable, our imperial impulses, are the best hindrance to hegemonic overreach. Patriots for a sane U.S. foreign policy ought to encourage all America's friends, especially Israel, to push back and do what is in their national interest, not ours.

lucent
10-18-2011, 09:12 PM
Israel needs assurance young American men and woman, will be sent to the middle east, to fight their battles for them.

Basically. They have stirred up a hornets nest over there and they don't want to sacrifice their own to make sure they keep what they've obtained when that hornets nest gets any kind of direction.

IterTemporis
10-18-2011, 09:13 PM
Read the comments! I almost fell off my chair.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ron-paul-would-cut-all-foreign-aid-even-to-israel/

Impressive.. Most of them agree with him..

Brian4Liberty
10-18-2011, 09:14 PM
Israel will always have the freedom to defend itself. They are a prosperous nation. They do not need aid, and we can not afford it. There can be no sacred cows when it comes to cutting the budget.

DinahWest
10-18-2011, 09:18 PM
I think people need to make a distinction, as neither Glenn Beck or others can speak for Israel.

And all I have seen of Israel in the past few months is being more and more upset with Obama
butting into their business. Also, I have heard none in Israel bemoaning not getting anymore
money from the US(even just in theory thus far) that does not come w/o strings being attached.

The US can support Israel w/o money or military aide. As many support Israel's right to defend itself.

The Free Hornet
10-18-2011, 09:18 PM
Impressive.. Most of them agree with him..

YES! The Blazers have flipped and on the hardest issue of them all, Israel. Nobody else ante'd up a trillion to cut. Nobody else is being copied - often word for word - on their policy positions. This was an amazing debate. Great night.

jason43
10-18-2011, 09:22 PM
The debate is as easy to end as this.

Is socialism wrong?

If yes, then it is as wrong internationally as it is domestically.

If no, then you are... well... a socialist.

specsaregood
10-18-2011, 09:25 PM
YES! The Blazers have flipped and on the hardest issue of them all, Israel.

Rand really cleared and paved the way on this issue during his campaign.

rolle
10-18-2011, 09:30 PM
Does anyone here that listens to Beck know what his current excuse is for not supporting Paul? Is it still just Israel?

linusPAULing
10-18-2011, 09:35 PM
RP has said repeatedly that we give 7 times more aid to Israel's enemies than we give to Israel.

Why don't these folks complain about that?

Perhaps it's because most of that aid on both sides is spent on Western arms?

Rudeman
10-18-2011, 09:39 PM
Paul should also bring up personal donations and parlay it in his smaller government lower taxes narrative. Basically spin it as a smaller government position instead of the anti-Israel stance that people try to project. If people had more of their money they would have more to support the things they want, whether that's Israel, the poor, cancer research etc.