Plan to Restore America Released

[NY-Dano]

http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RestoreAmericaPlan.pdf

[ronpaulfollower999]

What about eliminating the IRS? I don't think I saw it in there.

[sailingaway]

What about eliminating the IRS? I don't think I saw it in there.

This is what he wants to do his first year I think. He isn't taking on all of the battles. He extends the Bush tax cuts etc etc. It does end taxes on personal savings.

[TwoJ]

Is this everything being released in a few hours?

Where is this from?

[harikaried]

2013: -$313 billion (deficit)
2014: -$194 billion (deficit)
2015: $13 billion (surplus)
2016: $19 billion (surplus)

http://ed.agadak.net/deficit.png

[harikaried]

Eliminate $1.7 trillion of public debt held by the Federal Reserve Bank!!

http://ed.agadak.net/debt.png

[NY-Dano]

Is this everything being released in a few hours?

Where is this from?

Tweeted by the campaign

[amy31416]

Awesome...thanks!

[harikaried]

Tweeted by the campaignhttps://twitter.com/#!/RonPaul/status/125985719624802305

[chronicaust]

This is a great budget IMO. It is realistic and viable. I can't wait to see his second term budget! (Getting ahead of myself? xD) I can feel today as the day where people take notice and rise up against the status quo.

[harikaried]

Sell federal land!

$2.5 billion in 2013
$3.0 billion in 2014
$24.5 billion in 2015
$10.0 billion in 2016

[FluxCapacitor]

I'm glad he did this!

The line graphs look really weird, because they're not based on 0 at the Y axis.

[leffewture]

I like this a lot! but i wish he added a line-item for closing Guantanamo and ceasing the lease of the land!

[surf]

still too much on defense... imo

[donnay]

Excellent! Thanks!

[liberty2012]

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[Liberty4life]

Excellent work, Ron again is ahead of the pack, demonstrating his ability to foul off all the bad pitches and hit a homer.
It wont take long before the junkyard dogs pick up the scent and start copying parts of this plan.

[Feeding the Abscess]

still too much on defense... imo

I agree. 2001 levels and be done with it.

I'd hope that a second term would bring about the elimination of the DHS, further cuts in "defense" to 2001 levels, other eliminations, and reduction in personal income taxes.

[johndeal]

IMO he shouldn't say bush tax cuts. He should call them the 2001 tax cuts. Unless it plays well with the audiences.

[UtahApocalypse]

This is awesome!!!

[somename043]

hasn't he said in the past he would veto any budget that adds to the debt?

[Maximus]

Repeals many Executive orders, this is huge.

I think he would actually do much more, but this is the plan fit to sell

[Maximus]

TSA privatized!

[Brian4Liberty]

This is a great budget IMO. It is realistic and viable.

Yes, it appears they are putting out something very close to reality.

[Brian4Liberty]

TAXES:
Lowers the corporate tax rate to 15%, making
America competitive in the global market. Allows
American companies to repatriate capital without
additional taxation, spurring trillions in new
investment. Extends all Bush tax cuts. Abolishes the
Death Tax. Ends taxes on personal savings, allowing
families to build a nest egg.

I would like to know what that means exactly. Zero taxes on interest income? Dividends? Capital Gains? All of them?

[CaseyJones]

still too much on defense... imo

at least it would be Defense ,,, and it will take some money to bring all those soldiers and equipment home

[EBounding]

Even with the cuts in war-spending, defense is still well above 2001-2008 levels, and it still slowly increases each year. I don't see how base conservatives can object to this.

[Ben S.]

It's a good start. I also would have liked to have seen more on the IRS and personal income tax. The cuts on corporate tax and capital gains will benefit the rich and small business owners perhaps, but not so much me or the rest of the middle class workers. Granted, continuing current tax relief helps a lot since I have children. It will be nice to see estate and gift taxes eliminated.

As for spending, it's still ton of money. I also think the DoD could be cut a lot more. But the spending that's there is enough probably to not scare off too many people, and is probably more realistic for a start.

I think what will be difficult for a lot of people to understand is how a budget like this promotes a healthier economy. It's easier to understand "the government will give me x dollars" or "the government will give x dollars to build the economy". As Ron Paul has a better fundamental understanding of economics, his plan will I believe be fundamentally better for America's economy. But few people (including the other candidates) have any real understanding of the economy.

Another note, it will take a lot more than balancing the budget to start digging into that massive debt we still have sitting around. We're going to need a big surplus. I'm not sure how much Ron Paul will even be able to dig into that though, even with two terms.

[AdamT]

This is great. Perfect cuts, and he's going slow in the more fringe areas (IRS) and the golden child of a lot of Republicans (military). To throw everything we want in there would be foolish and this would get laughed at. This now has the ability to be taken seriously by the base.

Question is.....will the media discount this, jeer, and mock it, and of course ignore it and black it out like everything else about the campaign?

[harikaried]

I would like to know what that means exactly. Zero taxes on interest income? Dividends? Capital Gains? All of them?Look at the Revenues section:

For 2013.. (note numbers are the amount revenues are reduced from baseline)

Tax extenders 01/03 + Indexed AMT $238b
Eliminate ObamaCare Taxes $33b
Extend Other Tax Relief $77b
Eliminate Capital Gains and Dividends $125b
Eliminate Estate and Gift Tax $14b
Reduce Corporate Tax Top Rate 15% $137b

[Chainspell]

man this is a lot of info for the general public to digest, can we make a video about this? with dancing graphs and christmas lights or something!? make it interesting...

[Ben S.]

So the media is going to be sure to attack this. They are going to look at one of the Federal Departments, find something endearing one of them supports, such as help for the poor or children, and then talk about how Paul is going to let this child suffer or something. That's the downside to this. They won't mention that this is necessary to get our country back on track, or that there are a lot of poor people and suffering children already under the current system, and certainly not that there would be endless poor and suffering if we continue to destroy our country to the point of bankruptcy.

On the upside, he seems to be getting a lot of press right now, mostly neutral, until someone has the time write in depth about it.

[harikaried]

Well... I'm sure the media is probably waiting for the 3pm press conference before commenting too much.

[bb_dg]

I'm sure he's anticipating many of the concerns of the people. I hope he will explain everything well.

[lx43]

In upcoming debates Ron really needs to talk about his BOLD "Plan to Restore America" by cutting 1 trillion from the federal budget in one year. Also, where to find more information on his plan by going to his site, and mention the upcoming moneybomb.

[Texan4Life]

I think he would actually do much more, but this is the plan fit to sell

+1

great plan.

[Ben S.]

man this is a lot of info for the general public to digest, can we make a video about this? with dancing graphs and christmas lights or something!? make it interesting...

http://www.epipheostudios.com/

I started a thread here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?323233-Epipheo-Studios-type-campaign-video) to try to get some people together to make something like this. We do need something to make both this budget and the general notion of fixing our country by making fundamental changes according to free economics easier to understand and digestible for the masses.

[EBounding]

Does anyone know if the Entitlement/Social Security Opt out is considered in these numbers?

[Chainspell]

http://www.epipheostudios.com/

I started a thread here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?323233-Epipheo-Studios-type-campaign-video) to try to get some people together to make something like this. We do need something to make both this budget and the general notion of fixing our country by making fundamental changes according to free economics easier to understand and digestible for the masses.
i could do this whole thing for 20 dollars... seriously you want us to spend 10-50k on an advertising site?

[lx43]

Does anyone know if the Entitlement/Social Security Opt out is considered in these numbers?

Yes the plan does; look at page 1 in the Entitlement section at the link below.

http://c3244172.r72.cf0.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RestoreAmericaPlan.pdf

[mhad]

http://www.epipheostudios.com/

I started a thread here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?323233-Epipheo-Studios-type-campaign-video) to try to get some people together to make something like this. We do need something to make both this budget and the general notion of fixing our country by making fundamental changes according to free economics easier to understand and digestible for the masses.

Wow!! They do really cool work. I wonder how much it would cost and if we could get a chipin going for that?

[zHorns]

Do they have this as a main section on the campaign site?

If not, they NEED to get it up there quick. We can link and spread the plan a lot better that way, plus media outlets can link to it.

[Ben S.]

Reading through the news on Paul's plan. I am seeing a surprising number of articles, even from big media, talking about how it's bold and serious about balancing the budget. I might say it's even beyond neutral and slightly positive. Not used to seeing anything like that, thanks big media :)

Interestingly, nearly every article also highlights the $40k salary (even before talking about the budget), which though pretty symbolic, is the kind of the thing the media loves to headline.

[JohnGalt23g]

The campaign needs to get him on Hannity, pronto!

He will love discussing this.

[Chainspell]

Wow!! They do really cool work. I wonder how much it would cost and if we could get a chipin going for that?
10k-50k

[zHorns]

Reading through the news on Paul's plan. I am seeing a surprising number of articles, even from big media, talking about how it's bold and serious about balancing the budget. I might say it's even beyond neutral and slightly positive. Not used to seeing anything like that, thanks big media :)

Interestingly, nearly every article also highlights the $40k salary (even before talking about the budget), which though pretty symbolic, is the kind of the thing the media loves to headline.

I've noticed it as well.

The tide is turning...

[JohnGalt23g]

I want this plan stapled to every telephone pole on the internet...

[KingNothing]

http://dailyrushbo.com/ron-paul-to-propose-fiscal-reform-plan-stolen-from-rush-limbaugh/

Has anyone posted Rush's take on this all yet?

[fatjohn]

I'm glad he did this!

The line graphs look really weird, because they're not based on 0 at the Y axis.

Its not 2D its 3D there is a plane based on 0 at the Y axis.

[Carole]

Some things like the IRS, Federal Reserve, will require that the Congress change laws. :)

[Elwar]

http://dailyrushbo.com/ron-paul-to-propose-fiscal-reform-plan-stolen-from-rush-limbaugh/

Has anyone posted Rush's take on this all yet?

Wow...Limbaugh likes his plan.

*also takes credit for it*

[lx43]

http://dailyrushbo.com/ron-paul-to-propose-fiscal-reform-plan-stolen-from-rush-limbaugh/

Has anyone posted Rush's take on this all yet?

There was mention in General Topic that he's already commented on it.

[fatjohn]

All war funding ended

Like a Boss :d

[bb_dg]

This time, it is RP that will be the flavor of the week!!! :D

[KingNothing]

This time, it is RP that will be the flavor of the week!!! :D

Indeed.

This story, if followed-up with a home run at the debate, and a successful moneybomb will be an AMAZING thing for the campaign.

[slamhead]

Misspelling in plan? "FAA Privatived" It is actually a word but I am thinking they meant Privatized.

[fatjohn]

Misspelling in plan? "FAA Privatived" It is actually a word but I am thinking they meant Privatized.

Yeah saw that too. Luckily it's in the beginning so by the end you forgot.

[Chainspell]

i bet this plan wasnt created by someone at the local wells fargo branch...

[fatjohn]

And if he eliminates the federal reserve debt, why does it still say that public debt will be 9826 billion in 2013
I'm starting to think that they better ran it across RPF on hot topics before releasing it :p

[RonPaulVolunteer]

We have to blow this money bomb up. This is our moment if we want it.

[John F Kennedy III]

Great plan. This needs to go viral :)

[1836]

yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! This plan is awesome!

[John F Kennedy III]

I agree. 2001 levels and be done with it.

I'd hope that a second term would bring about the elimination of the DHS, further cuts in "defense" to 2001 levels, other eliminations, and reduction in personal income taxes.

I would be interested in seeing a graph on what we could cut Defense Spending down to just by using contractors that charge a more legitimate price instead of being in bed with the contractors that charge 10 or 20 or 200 times what the product is really worth.