OMG,,It's the Commies. LOL

[pcosmar]

http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html

Why would the "commies" be protesting against the 5th plank of communism?


Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt "money" in circulation.)

Something to think about, for those among us capable of actually thinking.

[angelatc]

Physician heal thyself, and think about this: They only want the private sector of banking to be abolished - they would have no beef with the government confiscating the equity and socializing the entire system.

[AuH20]

National banks. That's what they keep saying. They want the banks nationalized. Why do you think Michael Moore doesn't object to the idea of the Fed?

[Seraphim]

Buy gold/silver and you, in essence, reject all that needs to be rejected in this world.

It doesn't matter what type of centralized banking model is put in place, if you reject the product from the get-go.

Seriously, let these brazen authoritarian/commie/fascist pig fuckers do themselves in.

Pull out FIXED interest loans, buy gold/silver and de-leverage on mortgage debt. From there, policy is virtually irrelevant.

Sadly, I think things will get a whole lot worse before they get better - it is a VERY big mistake to not buy at least 100 ounces of silver.

[pcosmar]

Physician heal thyself, and think about this: They only want the private sector of banking to be abolished - they would have no beef with the government confiscating the equity and socializing the entire system.

Bullshit.
The system is already socialized. The 10 planks of communism already exist in this country. They are firmly in place.
This started with End the Fed.
http://ampedstatus.com/the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america-part-i/

of course if you refuse to read it or research it beyond Glen Beck reports you can believe anything you like.

[zach]

GLOBAL SOCIALISM COMING, FOLKS!!! :rolleyes:

The pessimists are showing their true depression. An actual revolution is underway, and yet we bitch, and we bitch that nothing is going our way.

Look around you. Our movement is nationally renowned and is gaining momentum with Ron Paul as a blacked out top tier Presidential candidate.
Global revolution under the guise of "Occupy" is there for the people who have woken up but have no direction to voice their discontent.

"Hijacked" or not, it's not leaving anytime soon, and the economy is imploding on itself.

You want a true revolution, look no further than what's going on in the world right now.
The world isn't ending, it's starting a new phase.

New World Order =/= Old World Order

[AuH20]

Bullshit.
The system is already socialized. The 10 planks of communism already exist in this country. They are firmly in place.
This started with End the Fed.
http://ampedstatus.com/the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america-part-i/

It's in place but we haven't crossed over into the final phase as of yet.

[angelatc]

Bullshit.
The system is already socialized. The 10 planks of communism already exist in this country. They are firmly in place.
This started with End the Fed.
http://ampedstatus.com/the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america-part-i/

Bullshit yourself. What we have now is more akin to fascism than socialism - the profits flow to the private sector while the public absorbs the losses. The protesters don't want private ownership of anything - they are socialists.

[pcosmar]

National banks. That's what they keep saying. They want the banks nationalized. Why do you think Michael Moore doesn't object to the idea of the Fed?

No they don't. What bullshit !
They are encouraging people to remove their money from the national banks and put it in local banks and credit unions.

[Seraphim]

While I agree that the movement is making great strides..

Europe and huge American segments ARE ABSOLUTELY entranced into socialism.

If you pay attention to Europe - they are sinking DEEPER into socialism. Many of them believe the 2008 calamity was due to free market, laissez faire.

But as the socialist debt ponzi scheme collapses - they are reverting to strong NATIONALISM as well.

National Socialism is on the rise in Europe WITH A VENGEANCE.

NAZI'ism is the prevailing ideology at the moment...Don't under estimate the tidal wave of delusional sheep and immense power coming our way. If you do so, it is at your own peril.





GLOBAL SOCIALISM COMING, FOLKS!!! :rolleyes:

The pessimists are showing their true depression. An actual revolution is underway, and yet we bitch, and we bitch that nothing is going our way.

Look around you. Our movement is nationally renowned and is gaining momentum with Ron Paul as a blacked out top tier Presidential candidate.
Global revolution under the guise of "Occupy" is there for the people who have woken up but have no direction to voice their discontent.

"Hijacked" or not, it's not leaving anytime soon, and the economy is imploding on itself.

You want a true revolution, look no further than what's going on in the world right now.
The world isn't ending, it's starting a new phase.

New World Order =/= Old World Order

[angelatc]

It's in place but we haven't crossed over into the final phase as of yet.

Exactly. Most of us want less government regulation of the private sector, as well as less government / public sector in general. The protestors want to abolish the private sector, and have the government give us all free stuff.

[Seraphim]

Meh.

Authoritarianism is Authoritarianism is Authoritarianism.

Socialism/Corporatism/Communism/Fascim are all the same. The difference is that the State dresses them up in different colour skirts and makes the colour coded zombies fight over the menial differences.


Bullshit yourself. What we have now is more akin to fascism than socialism - the profits flow to the private sector while the public absorbs the losses. The protesters don't want private ownership of anything - they are socialists.

[angelatc]

No they don't. What bullshit !
They are encouraging people to remove their money from the national banks and put it in local banks and credit unions.

BUt that's only because the nationalization of the banks isn't on the table. THey're pissed off at the banks for getting bailouts, but not at the government for giving the banks the money? And it took them 4 years to work themselves up into a huge snit over this? Now that's bullshit.

These are just the reincarnation of the antiwar protestors. After Obama wins the election, these people will all go home.

[AuH20]

No they don't. What bullshit !
They are encouraging people to remove their money from the national banks and put it in local banks and credit unions.

PCO, wake up man!!! I'd love to be part of an organic, freedom-loving revolution but this ain't it.

http://www.infowars.com/dennis-kucinich-tells-occupy-wall-street-to-nationalize-the-federal-reserve/

[angelatc]

Meh.

Authoritarianism is Authoritarianism is Authoritarianism.

Socialism/Corporatism/Communism/Fascim are all the same..

Oh fuck - the anarchists have showed up to reassert their ultimate mental superiority over all of us. Go away.

[pcosmar]

PCO, wake up man!!! I'd love to be part of an organic, freedom-loving revolution but this ain't it.

http://www.infowars.com/dennis-kucinich-tells-occupy-wall-street-to-nationalize-the-federal-reserve/

Kucinich did not start this. Lots of folks are saying lots of things.

It started with Operation Empire State Rebellion. A move to End the Fed.
Few showed up, so the folks reached out to other groups and Adbusters stepped up.(I think this was a mistake) They had the organizational base.

[AuH20]

Kucinich did not start this. Lots of folks are saying lots of things.

It started with Operation Empire State Rebellion. A move to End the Fed.
Few showed up, so the folks reached out to other groups and Adbusters stepped up.(I think this was a mistake) They had the organizational base.

Until the public educational system is weakened or taken over by people like us, nothing substantive will change. This is the end result of our public education system producing millions of drones a day.

[Seraphim]

Are you serious?

That is such a shitastic comment, I'm inclined to think you're joking.

Sensitive much? I was only making a very benign remark.


Oh fuck - the anarchists have showed up to reassert their ultimate mental superiority over all of us. Go away.

[angelatc]

Kucinich did not start this. Lots of folks are saying lots of things.

It started with Operation Empire State Rebellion. A move to End the Fed.
Few showed up, so the folks reached out to other groups and Adbusters stepped up.(I think this was a mistake) They had the organizational base.

Adbusters is not a proponent of free markets. These people do not want smaller government, they want total government.

[angelatc]

Are you serious?

That is such a shitastic comment, I'm inclined to think you're joking.

Sensitive much? I was only making a very benign remark.

Into the bozo bin with you. I'll let you out in a while.

[Seraphim]

Good grief...


Into the bozo bin with you. I'll let you out in a while.

[pcosmar]

Until the public educational system is weakened or taken over by people like us, nothing substantive will change. This is the end result of our public education system producing millions of drones a day.

Public education is no doubt to blame for much.
But I have been posting info here and can not get any to read. They just regurgitate their favorite talking heads.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322139-Wayback-Machine.-%28when-did-this-start-%29

[AuH20]

The 99% want to take control of the government from the 1%. So we're essentially trading an oligarchy for mob rule, instead of trying to restore the republic.

[angelatc]

Public education is no doubt to blame for much.
But I have been posting info here and can not get any to read. They just regurgitate their favorite talking heads.

If we weren't reading it, we wouldn't be here trying to talk you down.

[pcosmar]

The 99% want to take control of the government from the 1%. So we're essentially trading an oligarchy for mob rule, instead of trying to restore the republic.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322139-Wayback-Machine.-%28when-did-this-start-%29

[pcosmar]

If we weren't reading it, we wouldn't be here trying to talk you down.

Then quote and respond to particular parts.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322139-Wayback-Machine.-%28when-did-this-start-%29

I have not seen any do so yet.

[specsaregood]

National banks. That's what they keep saying. They want the banks nationalized. Why do you think Michael Moore doesn't object to the idea of the Fed?

This is the position of a great many leftists that agree with us on ending the private federal reserve. It isn't a new concept and while it isn't ideal, it is certainly better than the current system.

[pcosmar]

http://daviddegraw.org/2010/06/full-report-the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america

Yes, of course, we all have very strong differences of opinion on many issues. However, like our Founding Fathers before us, we must put aside our differences and unite to fight a common enemy.

It has now become evident to a critical mass that the Republican and Democratic parties, along with all three branches of our government, have been bought off by a well-organized Economic Elite who are tactically destroying our way of life. The harsh truth is that 99% of the US population no longer has political representation. The US economy, government and tax system is now blatantly rigged against us.

Current statistical societal indicators clearly demonstrate that a strategic attack has been launched and an analysis of current governmental policies prove that conditions for 99% of Americans will continue to deteriorate. The Economic Elite have engineered a financial coup and have brought war to our doorstep. . . and make no mistake, they have launched a war to eliminate the US middle class.

To those who feel I am using extreme rhetoric, I ask you to please take a few minutes of your time to hear me out and research the evidence put forth. The facts are there for the unprejudiced, rational and reasoned mind to absorb. It is the unfortunate reality of our current crisis.

Unless we all unite and organize on common ground, our very way of life and the ideals that our country was founded upon will continue to unravel.