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sailingaway
10-15-2011, 11:42 AM
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/blogs/politically_speaking/article_0face731-1954-5f3c-a6da-dd6a47eac95c.html


Vander Plaats leads The Family Leader organization, a conservative group that touts Christian principles in seeking to impact public policy. The Family Leader has had a lecture series at which many of the candidates have spoken in Sioux Center, Pella and Iowa City, and on Nov. 19 a forum (not debate, in order to get lengthier answers and not soundbites, Vander Plaats said) will be held by TFL.
Vander Plaats said within a few days after the forum The Family Leader will decide whether to endorse a conservative candidate. If the organization does not, he may endorse one personally, Vander Plaats added.
"We have a bit of history in being able to deliver for candidates," he said of any heft that could come from such an possible endorsement.
Vander Plaats said two people seem to have a good shot at nabbing an Iowa caucus win -- Romney and Ron Paul. If conservatives split, which could be likely, Romney "has a clear path to win the Iowa caucuses," he said.
Additionally, "Ron Paul's people aren't going anywhere and will crawl over broken glass" to support him at caucus.


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1836
10-15-2011, 11:46 AM
In his own odd way, I think Vander Plaats is showing us a lot of respect here.

bluesc
10-15-2011, 11:52 AM
Additionally, "Ron Paul's people aren't going anywhere and will crawl over broken glass" to support him at caucus.

No shit.

Aratus
10-15-2011, 04:46 PM
this is being politically said in total pragmatic common sense mode as if it's the gospel truth? coooooooooool!

orenbus
10-15-2011, 04:54 PM
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dbill27
10-15-2011, 04:55 PM
GUYS, he or their organization is going to endorse a candidate in a few days!! We have to get that endorsement!!!

Athan
10-15-2011, 05:03 PM
Uh, I agree with the broken glass thing. Lol. I'd do it no quesiton for him to win Presidency or even just GOP candidate.

dbill27
10-15-2011, 05:13 PM
I politely emailed this guys organization asking them to consider endorsing Ron, in the email I touted Ron's consistent honest voting record and some of his more socially conservative viewpoints. I suggest we get more people to do this. If you want to win Iowa this is what you gotta do, this is how huckabee got it.

Aratus
10-15-2011, 05:19 PM
dbill27 ...i think you are correct. we ought to take him totally seriously because his endorsement will ultimately cause rick santorum + michele bachman to read the handwriting on the wall. they may quit the contest if the evangelicals see on a personal level how sincere dr. ron paul is, how there is no hypocracy at all in his life!

dbill27
10-15-2011, 05:27 PM
dbill27 ...i think you are correct. we ought to take him totally seriously because his endorsement will ultimately cause rick santorum + michele bachman to read the handwriting on the wall. they may quit the contest if the evangelicals see on a personal level how sincere dr. ron paul is, how there is no hypocracy at all in his life!

Personally I want Rick Santorum and probably bachman in the race till the end. Santorum especially is not taking any votes from us. But this endorsement will make news and give us a lot of votes, we can't afford for Rick Perry to get this or Herman Cain

tsai3904
10-15-2011, 05:31 PM
His organization is holding a Presidential Forum on November 19. He definitely won't be endorsing anyone before the forum. Tickets are only $40 each so hopefully he can see firsthand again all the support Ron Paul has.

trey4sports
10-15-2011, 05:34 PM
If we got that endorsement that would be incredible. That said, I don't see it happening.

Aratus
10-15-2011, 05:41 PM
governor rick perry comes across at times like a snake oil salesman, i do hope mr. vander plaats senses this and was logically holding back.
if he is more inclined to back rick santorum or michele bachmann who is iowa born & lives one state over, but the only other logical option
is herman cain, if the campaign is not really focused on going 100% all out in iowa, i would be shocked if they let this critical endorsement
slip by them! i am glad someone here in grassroots is seeing the big picture. i've been bumping swingstate straw poll threads like a buckeye.

Aratus
10-15-2011, 05:46 PM
ron paul and michele bachmann practically split Ames down the middle. he knows this. ron paul the very private religious man
does not boast about his inner thoughts and faith in public. i admit we net-lings can come across as a very juvenile unwash'd
mob at times, but lets keep in mind we here at the RPFs are (a.) literate (b.) dedicated and (c.) demographically younger!!!!

Aratus
01-06-2012, 03:35 AM
did mr. vanderplaats get his wish? we now have a threeway race.

Aratus
01-06-2012, 03:35 AM
he backed rick santorum.