Cain: So I Was Wrong About The Major Economic Crises. What Of It?

[qwerty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kUwDg1LLk6g

[beardedlinen]

Epic fail. Ron MUST bring this up in the next debate.

[donnay]

Spoken like a true insider!!

[Oddone]

Haha.... If supporters can watch that, and listen to him talk down to them, and still support him....

[Sentinelrv]

Reporter: With your failure to recognize the housing bubble, how can you ensure the American people that you can fix the economy.

Hermain Cain: I have people...

[kah13176]

Economics: I have people.

Foreign policy: I surround myself with people. The generals.

[beardedlinen]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"

[Sentinelrv]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"

lol

[JoshS]

i have people for analyseas, herman cain 2012

edit - dammit.

[qwerty]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"

:D

i really can´t understand how some can support a man who didn´t see it coming rather a man who did...

Maybe he is going to hire Ron Paul ? ;)

[Xenophage]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Eat People"

Fixed.

[Jingles]

Did this actually happen? This was his actual response? What a terrible answer. I can't believe he would actually answer this question like this. "I have no idea what I'm talking about, but just ignore that and vote for me anyways."

Woww

[beardedlinen]

Fixed.

I always assumed he was a cannibal.

[Okie RP fan]

Herman Cain speaks in such simple sentences and terms... I don't know how people think this guy is some great economist/philosopher.

And when asked a question with some bite to it, he always give some sly remark like "well, we have a difference of opinion, let's move on."

[Esoteric]

http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/10588967.jpg

[TheTexan]

Cain: "But back then I was relying on the media for the information..."
Other guy: "But the media was right... you tried to correct the media.."
Cain: "But ya <ignores his point> and I'm awesome and so on"

[JoshS]

haven't you guys heard?

9-9-9, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS

[SpicyTurkey]

Hermain Cain, "I think I got an idea, but first allow me to call my people to make sure it's an idea."

[Sola_Fide]

Reporter: With your failure to recognize the housing bubble, how can you ensure the American people that you can fix the economy.

Hermain Cain: I have people...

He surrounds himself with all the people who got it wrong. Great job Herman.

[Matthew Zak]

:D

i really can´t understand how some can support a man who didn´t see it coming rather a man who did...

Maybe he is going to hire Ron Paul ? ;)

Ron Paul should bring that up at the next debate. "Mr. Cain, what kind of advisers will you surround yourself with? Perhaps I should advise you on who should advise you since I saw the housing bubble and economic collapse before you or your advisers did? Better yet, maybe you should drop out of the race and let those of us who know what we're doing make choices."

[MJU1983]

Reference: http://www.tomwoods.com/cain/

[mport1]

If his people are so great, maybe they should be running for president and not them.

[Kludge]

Perhaps more important is how this shows the ineptitude of the Federal Reserve's decision-makers.

Cain reminded me of McCain when Paul asked him about the Plunge Protection Team (Working Group). Wait... Cain... McCain.... coincidence?!

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Mr. Cain you say there is a deficiency of leadership in the White House. My question to you sir "Do you have any,"?

/snark

Honestly, this man is such a hypocrite. He leads on nothing -- Oh, I have advisors, Generals, I'll let you know when I get elected, blah de blah de blah. Go away.

PS: His great economic advisor doesn't even have a bachelors in Economics. (Not that, that means a whole lot, but...this guy is no Henry Hazlitt)

[McDermit]

He's so condescending and arrogant... and stupid to boot. How do people like this guy? I don't get it.

[MJU1983]

He's so condescending and arrogant... and stupid to boot. How do people like this guy? I don't get it.


haven't you guys heard?

9-9-9, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS

:p

[PredatorOC]

If his people are so great, maybe they should be running for president and not them.

Precisely. If Cain's answer is "I'll have people telling me what to do", shouldn't those advisors be running for President and not Cain?!

The guy is essentially admitting that he's an empty suit.

[Sentinelrv]

He's so condescending and arrogant... and stupid to boot. How do people like this guy? I don't get it.

Because he speaks the language of the general population, stupideeze. These are the people that are glued to the TV watching Jersey Shore, American Idol and Dancing with the Stars, never having read a book in their life. 9-9-9, JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!!12!%!6

[McDermit]

It's like 911, 911, 911 TERRORISM!! All over again.

[Oddone]

It is like 911.. There is a reason they use 911 for the police, people find it easy to remember short, catchy phrases or series of numbers. 9-9-9 is just that and nothing more. People with no knowledge of the Tax system, or who do no research on it, are more than likely to be swayed. 911...999...911...999

[Birdlady]

WOW!!

I downloaded this just in case it magically disappears off YT....

[jct74]

the entire video is posted here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322386-Herman-Cain-asked-about-quotes-dismissing-housing-bubble-on-MSNBC

[MJU1983]

Tweeted: http://twitter.com/#!/mju1983/status/124385955573542912

[jasonxe]

Mr Cain is like a mean teacher or boss (no nonsense, get a job) dude. Well Mr.Cain, I say to you, I don't take the "I didn't know" as an answer. I had mean teachers that said that all the time. To bad! Got Bachmann saying "I didn't know, I didn't get a chance to read the patriot act" BS, you still went with it!

[AlexAmore]

I feel like going to a Cain rally with a sign that says "Herman Cain's Advisors 2012". Unfortunately they're not smart enough to understand the subtle sarcasm.

[Edu]

In the debate he said he was here for 9-9-9.

So he's here to tax you.

That's his big plan? Define how he's going to tax you?

But the Tea Party people know better, they know that for the first 100 years there was a federal surplus and NO DIRECT TAXES on the People, who are sovereign, above the government, creators of the government, the boss, and thus can't be taxed directly.

Why wasn't any of that info in the text books in high school?

[beardedlinen]

Why wasn't any of that info in the text books in high school?

Must...restrain...conspiratorial...side@#!

I'm a bit worried about Cain and his army of the uninformed. They seem to be multiplying like gerbils. I know we're all on the "trend of the week" kick...but these people seem like a dangerously moronic hive-mind:

I am Locutus of Cain. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Perhaps the answer is what finally destroyed the Borg in Star Trek: Have one become aware of his or her independence.

[Thomas86]

Nah... Cain won't survive sounding this stupid on the economy. As long as we strike while the iron is hot we should be able to unseat him.

People have the economy as #1 on their agenda and it will make or break Paul's run (no matter how much "national security conservatism" gets pushed by the MSM.)

[TheTexan]

Cain is a liar (again).

His defense, to why he didn't see the economic collapse coming:

When I wrote those papers I was only responding to reports that I like everybody else was getting through the media - those kind of public reports.

Here's a quote from one of "those papers":

As a reminder, we still have not had a recession since 2001, using the standard definition of a recession as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. But don't tell the Democrats and the mainstream media. You might disrupt their imaginary recession.

(source (http://www.economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-090108.asp))

[Birdlady]

the entire video is posted here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322386-Herman-Cain-asked-about-quotes-dismissing-housing-bubble-on-MSNBC

Ty for this. I am out of rep. :(

[Sentinelrv]

Cain is a liar (again).

His defense, to why he didn't see the economic collapse coming:


When I wrote those papers I was only responding to reports that I like everybody else was getting through the media - those kind of public reports.

Here's a quote from one of "those papers":


As a reminder, we still have not had a recession since 2001, using the standard definition of a recession as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. But don't tell the Democrats and the mainstream media. You might disrupt their imaginary recession.

(source (http://www.economicfreedomcoalition.com/news/press-opinion-090108.asp))

Great catch. This deserves its own thread. Yet another lie we caught him in that we can spread around, this time letting people know he was clueless about the economy's imminent collapse.

[dusman]

Should have Chainspell combine all these great videos and blurbs we have accumulated and make a video montage. They seem to be piling up the past few days.

[TheTexan]

the entire video is posted here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322386-Herman-Cain-asked-about-quotes-dismissing-housing-bubble-on-MSNBC

Thank you.. I gleaned another good quote from there "At a minimum, the Cain plan is a distributional monstrosity. The poor would pay more while the rich would have their taxes cut, with no guarantee that economic growth will increase and good reason to believe that the budget deficit will increase."

"distributional monstrosity"... yep that just about sums it up.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"Paradox to what we have now in office... a president that doesn't know jack shit and just parrots what his handlers and speech writers tell him. The money masters pick the council of economic swindlers to showboat the WH.

All those years Herman Cain was at the Kansas City Federal Reserve, in corporate business, and that's the reply he gives Chuck Todd? That's something I may expect out of an 9th grader in an economics class when they don't know much.

This guy Cain is truly a Bullshit artist.

[Sentinelrv]

Should have Chainspell combine all these great videos and blurbs we have accumulated and make a video montage. They seem to be piling up the past few days.

Definitely yes! :D

[Chainspell]

Should have Chainspell combine all these great videos and blurbs we have accumulated and make a video montage. They seem to be piling up the past few days.

hehe im honored. I can or someone else can put clips together (just simple without any effects), if you find the clips needed and note the time and for how long you want the clip to play. and then either write me or post on the forums.

like the format:

use music: http:\\youtube.com\link
scene 1
clip: http:\\youtube.com\link
use: 0:45-0:48
clip: http:\\youtube.com\link
use: 8:01-8:09
notes: fade to black
notes: start text on 1:05 of music track
text: "the Only One We Can Trust"
effect: zoom in slowly

if you have it laid out like that I can do that whole project with about 20 clips in 10 minutes. It's just really hard digging and finding the clips to use.

a simpler format is just clips:
clip: http:\\youtube.com\link use: 0:45-0:48
clip: http:\\youtube.com\link use: 8:01-8:09

then you can add your own music or whatever :) birdlady can also do editing if you guys need it (among others here, captainamerica, coffee..something) seriously we should have a list of people that can do edits hehehe!

[Birdlady]

People like your fancy videos though. I can't do those with imovie. :)

[CaptainAmerica]

Cain is so ignorant,arrogant and a liar.

[Eric21ND]

I spliced this together quick!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw

[S.Shorland]

The first half is great (of the original op vid)!AND the interviewer points out his 'misunderstanding' of the criticism against him and he STILL tries to weasel his way out.What an ass that man is.

[TheTexan]

I think I'd be happy if he'd just stop saying "wif"

[jct74]

I spliced this together quick!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw

nice. I was just about to ask someone to make that video, comparing those 2 clips of Herman Cain and Ron Paul. It might be better though to include the whole clip of Cain being read his quote that is in the longer video on the MSNBC site (@4:45)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#44873565

[S.Shorland]

This can/can't be used in an ad because of copyright?The first 50 seconds of the OP's video is great.Then maybe 10 seconds of Scarborough saying 'how did YOU know,congressman paul,,in 2002,that there was a housing bubble' and brzinski saying 'oh my gosh' over a picture of Ron at the end.

[Kludge]

This can/can't be used in an ad because of copyright?The first 50 seconds of the OP's video is great.Then maybe 10 seconds of Scarborough saying 'how did YOU know,congressman paul,,in 2002,that there was a housing bubble' and brzinski saying 'oh my gosh' over a picture of Ron at the end.
It needs to be attributed to the copyright holder (the corporation's watermark is generally acceptable), but Fair Use laws generally allow as much content as is necessary to illustrate a point. This can get much more technical, but that's the general rule -- never use more content than necessary to make a comment on or illustrate a point.

If used in an official ad, you definitely want the copyright holder's (or holders') permission prior to airing it.

[Eric21ND]

nice. I was just about to ask someone to make that video, comparing those 2 clips of Herman Cain and Ron Paul. It might be better though to include the whole clip of Cain being read his quote that is in the longer video on the MSNBC site (@4:45)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#44873565
It won't let me download the complete video off their site, maybe someone else can grab it.

[Chainspell]

People like your fancy videos though. I can't do those with imovie. :)

nah I don't really believe it makes a big difference if there are effects or not, just look at the popular videos on youtube lol some of them are just clips of people doing stupid things. So the content is more important, and what I would call it "the delivery", how you convey ur message and attract attention. :)



I spliced this together quick!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw

nice job! +rep all over :)

[bluesc]

It won't let me download the complete video off their site, maybe someone else can grab it.

I uploaded to mediafire:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/hkqdku4r2z2ucf9/n_rundown_cain_111012.flv

[thomas-in-ky]

I spliced this together quick!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw

+rep

Thank you sir. Posted to Facebook! (with link to black this out)

[Mani]

wait a minute, wait a minute....OK, I'm on the outside looking in, so I miss out on all the trends, and not following the minute by minute parts of the campaign, so I don't know anything about Cain.

BUT are you telling me, this CAIN guy WORKED in the federal reserve at some capacity, completely missed the housing bubble and 2008 meltdown, and his REASONING is all he had to work with is what the MEDIA told him?

You mean, a guy who works at a place where money, interest rates, and the economy is all they talk about and deal with, but HE CLAIMS all he had to work with was what the MEDIA told him? So therefore how could he predict what was happening?

So sitting at the federal reserve he had to use the MEDIA to figure out what was happening....AND THEN, on top of it....HE DISAGREED with the media, so he couldn't even get that right. But he had no detailed information at his disposal to possibly predict it.

And to solve this issue of him sitting in the federal reserve and not knowing WTF is going on, is to have people who can do ANALYSIS? First of all because he's admitted he can't do the analysis, and secondly is he saying those people apparently DONT WORK IN THE FEDERAL RESERVE???? Because obviously if they did, he would have referred to them WHILE HE WAS THERE!!!!!

It's like he's showing how fucking clueless he is, and how fucking clueless the FED is at the same time.

[bunklocoempire]

I spliced this together quick!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw

Thank you so much!:)

I've got a number of Cain or Paul fence sitters.

Yes, Cain OR Paul -like they're sooo similar! WTF? Ugh!

This might do the trick!

+ green!

EDIT: And qwerty for gettin' this ball rollin'! Thank you!




Bunkloco

[Birdlady]

nah I don't really believe it makes a big difference if there are effects or not, just look at the popular videos on youtube lol some of them are just clips of people doing stupid things. So the content is more important, and what I would call it "the delivery", how you convey ur message and attract attention. :)



Ok you got me then. Good point. Let me see if I can get something together on this. I need to get more footage though and you know how painful it is listening to the media... lol

[devil21]

wait a minute, wait a minute....OK, I'm on the outside looking in, so I miss out on all the trends, and not following the minute by minute parts of the campaign, so I don't know anything about Cain.

BUT are you telling me, this CAIN guy WORKED in the federal reserve at some capacity, completely missed the housing bubble and 2008 meltdown, and his REASONING is all he had to work with is what the MEDIA told him?

You mean, a guy who works at a place where money, interest rates, and the economy is all they talk about and deal with, but HE CLAIMS all he had to work with was what the MEDIA told him? So therefore how could he predict what was happening?

So sitting at the federal reserve he had to use the MEDIA to figure out what was happening....AND THEN, on top of it....HE DISAGREED with the media, so he couldn't even get that right. But he had no detailed information at his disposal to possibly predict it.

And to solve this issue of him sitting in the federal reserve and not knowing WTF is going on, is to have people who can do ANALYSIS? First of all because he's admitted he can't do the analysis, and secondly is he saying those people apparently DONT WORK IN THE FEDERAL RESERVE???? Because obviously if they did, he would have referred to them WHILE HE WAS THERE!!!!!

It's like he's showing how fucking clueless he is, and how fucking clueless the FED is at the same time.

In all fairness to Cain, he worked at the Fed only in the mid 90's, not during the housing bubble of the 2000's.

[Travlyr]

Media black out of Ron Paul is backfiring. Just let Ron's opponents speak and they self destruct.

[Todd]

Well Herman Cain "has people"

And Mitt Romney "has Lawyers".

both will sit down with them and tell them what they need to do.

[matt0611]

We need to take this guy down in the next debate.

Ron needs to CALL HIM OUT!

[Captain Shays]

And this guy is considered "top tier"?. I'm glad we're exposing this fraud and it WILL work. We need to now put our focus on the anointed one. Romney

[tremendoustie]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"

Yeah, like this guy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/richard-lowrie-herman-cain-tax-plan_n_1006201.html

[tremendoustie]

In all fairness to Cain, he worked at the Fed only in the mid 90's, not during the housing bubble of the 2000's.

I had no more information than Cain (probably less), and I saw it a mile away (thanks largely to the analysis of folks like Paul and Peter Schiff).

[Dianne]

He's just another lying, crooked bankster.

[Travlyr]

He's just another lying, crooked bankster.

Lulz... Richard Lowrie, Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9' Tax Plan (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/richard-lowrie-herman-cain-tax-plan_n_1006201.html)

[acptulsa]

What the hell good is it to 'have people' if you can't tell whether or not they're telling you the truth?

Dubya 'had people', and we're still in Iraq trying to find yellowcake uranium and in Afghanistan trying to find bin Laden.

Every president 'has people'. He has a whole nation full of people. What we need is one with enough brains to know who to listen to. Do we really want this guy to do to the United States of America what he did to Godfather's? I used to be able to get a Godfather's Pizza in Tulsa; where are they now?

[Apparition]

I've got a number of Cain or Paul fence sitters.

Yes, Cain OR Paul -like they're sooo similar! WTF? Ugh!


In my experience so far this cycle, it would appear that the Cain and Paul fence sitters are the ones who in their heart want Ron Paul but are still feeling uneasy about him due to the last time around when everyone said he was crazy and kooky and unelectable. Cain was a 'non politician' and a businessman and that attracts people........ until they realize that he is an ignoramus.

[Tina]

He's so condescending and arrogant... and stupid to boot. How do people like this guy? I don't get it.

He really is condescending and arrogant. Listening to him makes me think he's seriously narcissistic, it will be fun to watch him fall.

[kazmlsj]

Humble - really humble.

[archangel689]

The more I think about it, the more I think Cain is just a distraction from Romney. Cain will shoot himself in the foot.

[EBounding]

Another bubble Cain is missing out on are his poll numbers.

Limbaugh was saying yesterday how Cain was "unflappable, except on the Federal Reserve question, but no one knows anything about that anyway". Really? He didn't mention that Ron Paul brought up the Fed question.

[PaulConventionWV]

The more I think about it, the more I think Cain is just a distraction from Romney. Cain will shoot himself in the foot.

More like shoot himself in the face.

[IndianaPolitico]

The Cain Train has derailed...

[georgiaboy]

Yep, Mr. Cain, you, like most every other mainstream establishment banker type were and still are calling my guy and those with his views as kooks, crazies, unelectable, stupid, ignorant.

Somehow we could see the winds blowing, though.

Who's crazy now?

And we're supposed to trust you and the system you endorse with a new Federal SALES tax?

Momma says crazy is as crazy does.

[centure7]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"

Cain 2016, Bush 2004, Obama 2012
"I Have New People!"

[mconder]

Let's see? The people who were right about it knew because they understood something you don't?

[mconder]

Are his new advisers Austrian Economists?

[slamhead]

Lulz... Richard Lowrie, Local Wells Fargo Branch Employee, Crafted Herman Cain's '9-9-9' Tax Plan (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/11/richard-lowrie-herman-cain-tax-plan_n_1006201.html)

LOLOLOLOL - Goodbye Mr. Cain. Now sit down and shut up.

[slamhead]

Let's see? The people who were right about it knew because they understood something you don't?

So I guess we can call he and his people "ignorant"

[jmdrake]

Ty for this. I am out of rep. :(

I'm not. Got you covered. ;)

[jmdrake]

I hope RevPAC has seen this. They did a great job on the Plastic Man ad, and the "Chinese troops in Texas" ad was great despite the naysayers. They need to take this gaff along with some of Cain's other foibles, mix them in with Ron Paul and Peter Schiff accurately portraying what would happen in the economy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1j9EEl4GGw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol45PnAIFRU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7AFUXvHmo

Now how to boil this all down to 30 seconds? Theme? Why elect someone who didn't see the collapse coming but now plans to surround himself with people who supposedly could have when you could just elect somehow who actually did see the collapse coming, sees the next one also, and has a real plan to prevent it?

[Brian4Liberty]

Not to defend Cain, but there were some misunderstandings (and spin) in that interview.

When Cain said he was listening to the media about the economy, I guarantee that he was listening to Larry Kudlow. That was back in the days when Kudlow spent every single day disputing that there was any problems or bubbles at all in the economy. It was the "Goldilocks economy", and we had "King Dollar" and Alan Greenspan was "the Maestro". He would have Peter Schiff on his show, and he and his cohorts would make fun of him.

The media was almost unanimously in denial about any problems, which makes Chuck Todd's assertion that the media was "right" completely wrong. Ron Paul and Peter Schiff were complete outsiders, and if they were mentioned by the media, it was to ridicule their positions.

[Travlyr]

Not to defend Cain, but there were some misunderstandings (and spin) in that interview.

When Cain said he was listening to the media about the economy, I guarantee that he was listening to Larry Kudlow. That was back in the days when Kudlow spent every single day disputing that there was any problems or bubbles at all in the economy. It was the "Goldilocks economy", and we had "King Dollar" and Alan Greenspan was "the Maestro". He would have Peter Schiff on his show, and he and his cohorts would make fun of him.

The media was almost unanimously in denial about any problems, which makes Chuck Todd's assertion that the media was "right" completely wrong. Ron Paul and Peter Schiff were complete outsiders, and if they were mentioned by the media, it was to ridicule their positions.

QFT! We've come a long way.

[V3n]

I spliced this together quick!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn0EApd5wgw

Eric21ND - the official campaign/Jack Hunter is using your video!! :D

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/10/13/video-paulcain-comparison-on-housing-bubble/

that's freakin' sweet!!

[Eric21ND]

Wow!! I did that in like 3 mins last night. wish i could've got rid of the watermark, but oh well. :)

[jkr]

so i was wrong about the "economy" BFD, its not like im runn'n for...WAIT

[jct74]

here's the longer version of the clip in tube format


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4IZPXRxy8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4IZPXRxy8

[D.A.S.]

Herman Cain 2012
"I Have People"

This just made me LOL. Great stuff.

[Crickett]

dunno why he makes such a big deal about he ADMITS it. I mean, the proof is there, he could not lie about it..so he thinks by saying he knows he was wrong is any big deal? If he did not know it he would be an idiot. In fact, there are a whole LOT of things Cain does not know, and he hopes his elite buddies are going to tell him exactly what to do. JERK!

[Brian4Liberty]

Not to defend Cain, but there were some misunderstandings (and spin) in that interview.

When Cain said he was listening to the media about the economy, I guarantee that he was listening to Larry Kudlow. That was back in the days when Kudlow spent every single day disputing that there was any problems or bubbles at all in the economy. It was the "Goldilocks economy", and we had "King Dollar" and Alan Greenspan was "the Maestro". He would have Peter Schiff on his show, and he and his cohorts would make fun of him.

The media was almost unanimously in denial about any problems, which makes Chuck Todd's assertion that the media was "right" completely wrong. Ron Paul and Peter Schiff were complete outsiders, and if they were mentioned by the media, it was to ridicule their positions.

My "speculation" about Herman Cain's economic advisers has been confirmed. Cain has revealed that Stephen Moore and Art Laffer helped to develop the 9-9-9 plan. They are peas-in-a-pod buddies with Larry Kudlow, and regulars on his show (and they were regularly opposing Peter Schiff and Ron Paul).

[Captain Shays]

Epic fail. Ron MUST bring this up in the next debate.

Maybe. I would MUCH rather see this in a TV ad with Joe Scarbrough telling everyone on his show how Ron Paul predicted everything and then have a Ron Paul sound bite actually predicting it. Cain would then be revealed as the fraud that he is and Ron Paul the genius that he is. In the meantime we need to make this go viral