PDA

View Full Version : Iowa - Help me calling Republican Delegates




austinphish
06-14-2007, 03:51 PM
I am in the ronpaulaustin.com meetup group and we are calling Iowa Republican delegates to politely talk to them about Ron Paul and possibly convert them or get more information on them. I have been assigned 100 and it is way too many for me to handle. My main problem is that I am very introverted so my voice gets shaky when talking to strangers and they are very unresponsive to me.

So if you are interested, we have a loosely written script, I could use some help. I am going to work on getting better at it myself, but I don't want to ruin a whole 100 potential delegates. Just tell me how many you would like to call. Even 5 people off my list really helps.

Thanks,
holtmichael @ hotmail.com

P.S. If anyone from the Austin team reads this and is like WTF? well sorry, I didn't want to do this!

austinphish
06-15-2007, 08:16 AM
i am not pissed or anything, b/c this is somehow my job, but it makes me worry that most people on this forum think they are supporting RP just by posting on this forum all day (see doing nothing).

Grrr, I am going to spend Saturday calling people. I am serious when I said this is not my forte. I was not born for sales, especially not telemarketing.

angrydragon
06-15-2007, 02:12 PM
Someone has to be on here that's great with phones.

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-16-2007, 06:50 PM
I think most of us are the same way about calling strangers, so don't feel bad. Try doing 10, or even 5. Don't take it personally if they are not very responsive. They are probably getting a lot of these calls, and you know how we all feel about sales calls. After you do a few, you'll gain confidence.

You note that I didn't volunteer to take any.:rolleyes: I'll think about it. Maybe I can try a couple tomorrow.

It is a great thing you are doing, and you deserve tremendous kudos.

Bradley in DC
06-16-2007, 07:52 PM
This is a hugely important effort. Most Iowans are getting swamped with automated phone calls. Getting a personal call from a real live Ron Paul supporter has been having a huge, and positive effect on those called. Everyone should try to make some time to call--if we can get the Meetup.com groups to "adopt" a county, or part of a county for the bigger ones, we can put Dr. Paul on top in Iowa!

austinphish
06-16-2007, 08:18 PM
We'll please consider doing 10. I have done 12 now, and I was going to do more today but no on was picking up.

It is important - even more important than posting on forums. ;-)

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-16-2007, 08:26 PM
AustinPhish, if you will private message me 10 and the script, I will try to do them tomorrow. Or let me know if there is a better way to get them from you. Ask for my email addy if you need to attach something.

austinphish
06-16-2007, 08:39 PM
AustinPhish, if you will private message me 10 and the script, I will try to do them tomorrow. Or let me know if there is a better way to get them from you. Ask for my email addy if you need to attach something.

Sweet

As further inspiration, I just spent the last 2.5 hours walking around downtown Austin promoting RP.

RJB
06-16-2007, 09:11 PM
I volunteered to help in Iowa in ANY way. I quickly regretted it when I received a list of 100 people to call. As much as I wanted to weasel out, I knew Dr. Paul needs us. And does he...

Most people had NOT heard of him. One was a die hard Giuliani guy and didn't know of Paul. Most like his message, even the Giuliani guy like the message. Those not interested in him were brief calls anyway. Please do this. It means more than donating. These are the actual voters.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE DO LOVE THE CALLS. These are political people that love to talk politics. They are republican volunteers. The delegates who vote. Also most of my calls were picked up by answering machines so I left a good pitch for Ron and left my phone number. So far I've made 34 calls. I did talk to one definite supporter and two who didn't know of him who were very excited about his stances.

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS. 100 calls are a lot for me. I'm not that type of a guy (tele-salesman) If I can do it you can.

RJB
06-16-2007, 09:24 PM
He is the script I made-- short and sweet. Funny thing is I haven't said I was a republican since '92 :)

"Hello, I'm R.J. Burle, a republican. I found your name on the list of republican delagates and was wondering if you had chosen a Presidential candidate for '08."

Here they either answer or flat out ask me who I'm calling for. So when it does gets to me I'll answer


"Ron Paul for his consitant integrity in 10 terms in congress.
He's NEVER voted for an unconstitutional bill
Never voted to raise taxes.
Never voted for gun restrictions.
Always been prolife
and always for defense of our borders."

A lot are for the Iraq war, which I respond that "He voted against the use of force because it's unconstitutional to use our military as tools for the UN to enforce UN resolutions and because congress should have declared war instead of the cowardly authorization to use force. This is why we've bogged down the the politically correct battle over there that's killing our boys and the democrats who voted for it can weasel out of it. Ron Paul will never send our troops in harms way without a declaration of war."

Republicans and democrats can appreciate that logic.

goldstandard
06-17-2007, 07:39 AM
Maybe mentioning Reagan could be your foot in the door. Another thing is spending and debt.
Wiki-quote: "Foot-in-the-door technique, also known as the Foot-in-the-door phenomenon, is a persuasion method. In it, the persuader does something small in order to catch the target's interest, before moving on to what he really wants. This may be a small, insignificant offer which the receiving party cannot logically refuse."

Bradley in DC
06-17-2007, 08:00 AM
A lot are for the Iraq war, which I respond that "He voted against the use of force because it's unconstitutional to use our military as tools for the UN to enforce UN resolutions and because congress should have declared war instead of the cowardly authorization to use force. This is why we've bogged down the the politically correct battle over there that's killing our boys and the democrats who voted for it can weasel out of it. Ron Paul will never send our troops in harms way without a declaration of war."

Republicans and democrats can appreciate that logic.

When the Iraqi question comes up, I always say "Dr. Paul proposed going directly after the terrorists responsible with Letters of Marque and Reprisal (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm) rather than indiscriminately bombing civilian populations."

That usually changes the tone of the discussion.

RJB
06-17-2007, 08:25 AM
When the Iraqi question comes up, I always say "Dr. Paul proposed going directly after the terrorists responsible with Letters of Marque and Reprisal (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm) rather than indiscriminately bombing civilian populations."

That usually changes the tone of the discussion.


Thanks. I'm making things up as I go.

I also mention that RP is against the unconstitutional scheme of putting our grandchildren in debt by taxing us to install, arm, and then remove the same dictators.

It kind of places our insane foreign policy in perspective.

Alabama Supporter
06-17-2007, 12:15 PM
When the Iraqi question comes up, I always say "Dr. Paul proposed going directly after the terrorists responsible with Letters of Marque and Reprisal (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm) rather than indiscriminately bombing civilian populations."

That usually changes the tone of the discussion.

Bradley that is a nice response. I imagine it changes the tone of the conversation favorable to Ron Paul?

Alabama Supporter
06-17-2007, 12:22 PM
Austinphish, email sent.

I will propose at our next meetup group in Huntsville, AL that we get some volunteers to do this sort of thing.

Did the campaign task the Austin group for this? There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters across the country willing to do this.

maggiebott
06-17-2007, 12:38 PM
I would be more than willing to take ten off your hands. What time is it in Iowa right now, since I'm on the east coast.

Bradley in DC
06-17-2007, 12:50 PM
Bradley that is a nice response. I imagine it changes the tone of the conversation favorable to Ron Paul?

Yes, sorry, favorable change. Often the implication in these questions is that Dr. Paul in opposing the war doesn't think we should respond at all and just let them get away with it (as they are in fact now getting away with it under our current misguided policies despite so much death and destruction and cost).

Bradley in DC
06-17-2007, 12:51 PM
Austinphish, email sent.

I will propose at our next meetup group in Huntsville, AL that we get some volunteers to do this sort of thing.

Did the campaign task the Austin group for this? There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters across the country willing to do this.

It would be good if the Meetup groups could "adopt" a county in Iowa to call.

Scribbler de Stebbing
06-17-2007, 05:36 PM
When the Iraqi question comes up, I always say "Dr. Paul proposed going directly after the terrorists responsible with Letters of Marque and Reprisal (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm) rather than indiscriminately bombing civilian populations."

That usually changes the tone of the discussion.

I'd also say that he voted FOR going after bin Laden in Afghanistan. None of the 911 terrorists came from Iraq. We should be putting our efforts into going after the people who actually harmed us.

ratsbew
06-17-2007, 09:48 PM
This is from another thread but it seems relevant:


I've been thinking about the following:

We could order Iowa phone books and divide them into manageable sections to be sent to volunteers around the country.

The volunteers would receive a package consisting of the phone book section, a how-to page, a scripted message and a FAQ sheet with quick answers to questions about issues for a phone campaign.

When the names in the section were called, the volunteer would mark them off the list. If anyone called requests further info that name and address would be noted and when the package is returned to Iowa, the folks there could call on the residence with literature.

If there is enough of a response from volunteers, they could blanket Iowa in short order. 2,000 volunteers could cover the state's eligible voters in 2 weeks, and they could work from their homes from anywhere around the country.

This might help in Iowa and NH.

Just a thought, FWIW.

Bosso

This is really a great idea! And if people do not want to use up their phone minutes or make long distance calls, you can use Yahoo Messenger to make phone calls for 1 cent per minute (http://messenger.yahoo.com/feat_voice.php) ($10 = 16.5 Hours!), all you need is a headset with a microphone and a decent (some sort of broadband) internet connection.

RonPaul2012grassroots
06-17-2007, 11:33 PM
When the Iraqi question comes up, I always say "Dr. Paul proposed going directly after the terrorists responsible with Letters of Marque and Reprisal (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm) rather than indiscriminately bombing civilian populations."

That usually changes the tone of the discussion.

That's an excellent response, Bradley.

I've noted that for my own outbound calls.

Thanks

RonPaul2012grassroots
06-17-2007, 11:37 PM
This is from another thread but it seems relevant:



This is really a great idea! And if people do not want to use up their phone minutes or make long distance calls, you can use Yahoo Messenger to make phone calls for 1 cent per minute (http://messenger.yahoo.com/feat_voice.php) ($10 = 16.5 Hours!), all you need is a headset with a microphone and a decent (some sort of broadband) internet connection.

You can also use Skype VoIP (Skypeout) for $29.95 a year, unlimited long distance.

Of course when you use these VoIP internet services the caller ID shows "no number" or "unavailable" which causes some folks to let the answering machine or voicemail take the call.

LizF
06-18-2007, 12:26 AM
I was wondering if you'd find tapping into the Iowa Ron Paul 2008 Meetup groups helpful in getting willing callers.

As I posted in another thread: (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=3495), I would expect state delegates to be more receptive to a call from another Iowa voter, rather than from an out-of-stater, so that's why I'm suggesting this.

You may have this info already, but as an FYI, here are some links to the Iowa Meetup groups that I found:


Ron Paul 2008 Meetups on the Map: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/about/

Des Moines & Central Iowa (49 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/106/?gj=sj21

The Iowa City Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group (43 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/115/?gj=sj21

The Greater Quad City Area Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group [Davenport, IA] (23 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/117/?gj=sj21

The Cedar Rapids Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group (22 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/232/?gj=sj21

Ames and Northern Iowa Ron Paul Meetup Group (9 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/262/?gj=sj21

The Fairfield Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group (5 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/267/?gj=sj21

Sioux City Ron Paul Meetup Group (4 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/260/?gj=sj21

SE Iowa - Coralville/ Iowa City - Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group (3 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/180/?gj=sj21

SE Iowa - Coralville/ Iowa City - Ron Paul 2008 Meetup Group (3 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/181/?gj=sj21
(--Listed twice? Though I noticed a slight difference in membership list)

The Fairfield Ron Paul Meetup (3 members): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/286/?gj=sj21



People interested in joining a meetup:

West Des Moines (5 people): http://ronpaul.meetup.com/cities/us/ia/west_des_moines/

LibertyEagle
06-18-2007, 12:39 AM
Just FYI... there is a guy from Iowa trying to get something together here, in this forum:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=27967#post27967

Anyone know what the Ron Paul campaign has planned for Iowa?

Pedrique
06-20-2007, 09:34 AM
When the Iraqi question comes up, I always say "Dr. Paul proposed going directly after the terrorists responsible with Letters of Marque and Reprisal (http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2001/pr101101.htm) rather than indiscriminately bombing civilian populations."

That usually changes the tone of the discussion.

Here is my 2 cents.

I'm not certain most voters even understand what "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" are, so unless you are comfortable clearly defining what that means over the phone I wouldn't use it.

I would simply state that Dr. Paul authorized force for Afghanistan and Osama Bin Ladin, but he became frustrated by the unconstitutional efforts to redirect the war to Iraq, i.e. without declaring via Congress.

With that comment move quickly to the BIGGER issue - which is that Dr. Paul believes the war in Iraq is a symptom of a larger problem - we've overextended ourselves with a faulty foreign policy, specifically in the Middle East. These bad policies have not only hurt our reputation around the world, they also foster new enemies while at the same time preventing us from focusing on more pressing domestic issues such as immigration and healthcare.

Finally, Dr. Paul believes that taking border agents from our own Mexican borders and using them to control borders in Iraq is detrimental to our national security. In his own words - "How can we have a serious conversation about national security when our own back door is unlocked?"

That in a nutshell would be my outline of Dr. Paul's foreign policy views for those still pro-Iraq.

Bradley in DC
06-20-2007, 09:44 AM
I'm not certain most voters even understand what "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" are, so unless you are comfortable clearly defining what that means over the phone I wouldn't use it.

Letters of Marque and Reprisal is a polite way of saying we put a bounty on their heads.

Pedrique
06-20-2007, 09:59 AM
Letters of Marque and Reprisal is a polite way of saying we put a bounty on their heads.

yeah I know what it means and think its great. I'm just not sure the folks getting called would know unless you came out and said "Dr. Paul thinks the best way to go after those responsible for 9/11 is to put a bounty on their heads and send in assassins. In fact he proposed legislation for just such a thing, which is entirely constitutional btw. Its called 'letters of marque and reprisal'. "

Israel essentially did this after the Munich Olympics fiasco. Took some heat for it when they got the wrong guy one time. Would be interesting to see the reaction if we did something similar.

Lauxa
06-30-2007, 10:14 PM
Just found this thread and am wondering... how did the delegate-calling effort go? How many delegates are there in Iowa and how many did the Austin meetup group manage to call? I am in Austin, too, but haven't made it to the meetups yet. Hopefully soon!

Bradley in DC
06-30-2007, 10:23 PM
Just found this thread and am wondering... how did the delegate-calling effort go? How many delegates are there in Iowa and how many did the Austin meetup group manage to call? I am in Austin, too, but haven't made it to the meetups yet. Hopefully soon!

Still an active project currently about to expand to the registered voters in Iowa. Please contact Jason to help!

CJLauderdale4
06-30-2007, 10:27 PM
I'm up for 10. Private Message me. I'll talk politics to the Iowans!!

Also, someone should consolidate all of the issues into a call sheet that can be used with the basic script. So as delegates jump to issues, we can easily remind ourselves what Ron Paul supports.

Not that we don't already know Ron's positions, but sometimes in discussion, you can easily be taken down a rabbit trail and forget exactly what the main issue of discussion is. While speaking on the phone, you can have your finger right on the issue, and go through the positions, bring the delegate right back to the issue and off the rabbit trail.

Just a thought...I'm going to personally put one of these together if you need me to call...

Bradley in DC
06-30-2007, 10:30 PM
I'm up for 10. Private Message me. I'll talk politics to the Iowans!!

Also, someone should consolidate all of the issues into a call sheet that can be used with the basic script. So as delegates jump to issues, we can easily remind ourselves what Ron Paul supports.

Not that we don't already know Ron's positions, but sometimes in discussion, you can easily be taken down a rabbit trail and forget exactly what the main issue of discussion is. While speaking on the phone, you can have your finger right on the issue, and go through the positions, bring the delegate right back to the issue and off the rabbit trail.

Just a thought...I'm going to personally put one of these together if you need me to call...

They are loading, if I remember right, 1.8 million Iowa voters in a program 500,000 at a time for callers to use (or maybe that was just the independents). We need everyone to take part!

CJLauderdale4
06-30-2007, 10:31 PM
They are loading, if I remember right, 1.8 million Iowa voters in a program 500,000 at a time for callers to use (or maybe that was just the independents). We need everyone to take part!

Got Vonage unlimited long distance...
Lock and Load!!

Just tell me where to aim...:)

Bradley in DC
06-30-2007, 10:39 PM
Got Vonage unlimited long distance...
Lock and Load!!

Just tell me where to aim...:)

Jason Stoddard of the Austin MeetUp group (and former Ron Paul Congressional intern) is training people to make calls to Iowa registered voters (1.6 million). They are starting with the 2006 Iowan Republican delegates list. Initial evaluation is that almost no one called had heard of Dr. Paul or was familiar with his views (and these are politically aware people) but that a good number are not only receptive but very supportive when they learn about him!

To help, contact Jason at Stoddard.Jason@gmail.com or 512.925.0921. This should be what all of us are doing to complement the big Iowa rally, the DVD project, news of "unfairness" to him, etc., and create a nice buzz.

laura
07-09-2007, 01:47 PM
do you still need help calling? give me 5 names to start with. I'll try, but I've never done this stuff either.

Laura

laura
07-09-2007, 01:49 PM
please send me one of your sheets...it's a great idea, and I'm a novice. I've never been for a candidate before Ron Paul, but I want to help in every way I can.

Laura

austinphish
07-09-2007, 04:04 PM
Thanks for all the help people. Round 2 of the calling Iowa campaign has begun. Please see this thread on how you can help:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=5538

BTW - Jason Stoddard and Chuck Young are freaking true Patriots - these guys are taking on massive projects all geared towards winning the early primaries. Help these guys out and become a Patriot yourself.

poppop_schell
07-16-2007, 02:23 PM
Bump

poppop_schell
07-17-2007, 01:47 PM
Bump

poppop_schell
07-18-2007, 03:48 PM
Coontact calliowa@ronpaul2008.com IF YOU WANT SOME ACTION THAT WILL RFEALLY HELP RP WIN THE AUGUST 11TH STRAWVOTE.

jmdrake
07-18-2007, 05:02 PM
Coontact calliowa@ronpaul2008.com IF YOU WANT SOME ACTION THAT WILL RFEALLY HELP RP WIN THE AUGUST 11TH STRAWVOTE.

Our meetup group in Nashville is willing to help! I emailed the above list today and someone else emailed them a week ago (I think) but no response yet. (I can understand why my email hasn't yet been answered because it was just posted). Anyway we've got 6 definite callers so far but I think I can REALLY push this and get 50 or even 100 callers if I can actually get ahold of a list of numbers and a script.

Our meetup group is: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/69/ We're 176 members and growing every day!

Regards,

John M. Drake

poppop_schell
07-18-2007, 08:47 PM
Our meetup group in Nashville is willing to help! I emailed the above list today and someone else emailed them a week ago (I think) but no response yet. (I can understand why my email hasn't yet been answered because it was just posted). Anyway we've got 6 definite callers so far but I think I can REALLY push this and get 50 or even 100 callers if I can actually get ahold of a list of numbers and a script.

Our meetup group is: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/69/ We're 176 members and growing every day!

Regards,

John M. Drake


John, THANKS!!!!!! When will some important political events be occuring there in the Volunteer state? FYI, back in the 1980s I lived there in Nashville and worked at Aladdin Industries. Now That I am a Retired Business Professor, I live in Winston-Salem area of NC.

Please put my name in your Meetup Group so we can continue to link. poppop_schell@hotmail.com

BTW, when your gorup volunteers at calliowa@ronpalu.com make surre they include their name, e-mail address, and the number of folks they can call per week.

Thanks again for your groups support!!!

poppop_schell
07-19-2007, 12:16 PM
bump

JosephTheLibertarian
07-19-2007, 01:59 PM
hey austrin, how about we do a two way?

jmdrake
07-19-2007, 03:28 PM
Please put my name in your Meetup Group so we can continue to link. poppop_schell@hotmail.com

BTW, when your gorup volunteers at calliowa@ronpalu.com make surre they include their name, e-mail address, and the number of folks they can call per week.

Thanks again for your groups support!!!

There's going to be a statewide Ron Paul rally on Oct 13 in Nashville. So far 68 have RSVPed yes and 25 maybe. That doesn't count people meetups in other cities in Tennessee. I'm not sure how to add you to the meetup group, but you're definitely welcome to join! And I will save your email address.

I got my list of 250 names today and I've sent it out to my collaborators. Let's do this thing! Ron Paul rocks!

Regards,

John M. Drake

james1844
07-19-2007, 04:20 PM
Hi Guys,

I emailed and called HQ, but haven't received my calling materials yet. Does anyone know what the story is?

Best,

James

poppop_schell
07-31-2007, 04:23 PM
There's going to be a statewide Ron Paul rally on Oct 13 in Nashville. So far 68 have RSVPed yes and 25 maybe. That doesn't count people meetups in other cities in Tennessee. I'm not sure how to add you to the meetup group, but you're definitely welcome to join! And I will save your email address.

I got my list of 250 names today and I've sent it out to my collaborators. Let's do this thing! Ron Paul rocks!

Regards,

John M. Drake

John, just let me your Meetup Group number and I will join you.