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John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 12:19 PM
I am having a hard time figuring out how to eliminate governors from the list since it isn't as simple as looking at their voting record. Do you have any ideas? My list is at 12.

Do you feel the governor of your state should be removed from the list or kept on?

What filters should I use? Which governors are acting like dictators or promoting socialist programs?

The list so far:

Robert J. Bentley (R-Ala)
Sean Parnell (R-ALASKA)
Butch Otter (R-ID)
Terry Branstad (R-IOWA)
Dave Heineman (R-NE)
Brian Sandoval (R-NV)
Jack Dalrymple (R-ND)
Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Dennis Daugaard (R-SD)
Gary Herbert (R-UT)
Scott Walker (R-WI)
Matt Mead (R-WY)

specsaregood
10-12-2011, 12:30 PM
Trust them in what way? Trust them with your young daughter or young son? Trust them with your passwords and account numbers? Or just Trust them to behave like a typical politician?

pcosmar
10-12-2011, 12:33 PM
http://moneyandrisk.moneyandrisk.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trust-no-one.jpg

specsaregood
10-12-2011, 12:34 PM
http://moneyandrisk.moneyandrisk.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/trust-no-one.jpg

That's a lonely way to live life pete. I'd rather trust some and take the risk of being wrong from time to time.

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 12:35 PM
Trust no one? Are none of the governors on the side or liberty? Which governors are on our side?

pcosmar
10-12-2011, 12:41 PM
Trust no one? Are none of the governors on the side or liberty? Which governors are on our side?

You can scratch Rick Snyder off that list. I live in Michigan. He wants to raise my taxes. has taken dictatorial powers and is promoting more socialist programs.

He ain't my friend.
:(

pcosmar
10-12-2011, 12:43 PM
That's a lonely way to live life pete. I'd rather trust some and take the risk of being wrong from time to time.

I trust God.
No one else,,

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 12:48 PM
You can scratch Rick Snyder off that list. I live in Michigan. He wants to raise my taxes. has taken dictatorial powers and is promoting more socialist programs.

He ain't my friend.
:(

Thank you. I'm sorry to hear that, I'm in Cali so I got it pretty bad as well :(

This is the type of stuff I'm looking for, what governors are acting like dictators or promoting socialist programs?

flightlesskiwi
10-12-2011, 12:49 PM
Pat Quinn?? i no longer live in IL, but i have family there. this man is a progressive nutcase. gun control zealot (flip flopped) and signed the internet sales tax into law.

i'd cross him off the list.

edit: also about even more regulations for the coal industry in the state.

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 12:51 PM
Pat Quinn?? i no longer live in IL, but i have family there. this man is a progressive nutcase. gun control zealot (flip flopped) and signed the internet sales tax into law.

i'd cross him off the list.

Thank you.

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 01:02 PM
Should I automatically remove the governors that are on the Council of Governors?

realtonygoodwin
10-12-2011, 01:09 PM
The question is difficult. You have to see how well they follow the Constitution of their own state. Also, some states have intentionally weak governor's offices and some have strong.

pcosmar
10-12-2011, 01:11 PM
Should I automatically remove the governors that are on the Council of Governors?

That should be immediate grounds for distrust.

the very concept boggles,,,

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 01:17 PM
The question is difficult. You have to see how well they follow the Constitution of their own state. Also, some states have intentionally weak governor's offices and some have strong.

This is true. But it also matters, to me at least, how they treat their citizens, regardless of the state constitution. You shouldn't be a Rick Perry or Jerry Brown just because your state constitution allows you to be.


That should be immediate grounds for distrust.

the very concept boggles,,,

My thoughts exactly. Just like the Super Congress, the only ones appointed would be ones that would do exactly what he says for them to do.

specsaregood
10-12-2011, 01:19 PM
Should I automatically remove the governors that are on the Council of Governors?

I don't see any governors listed from the non-state states. ie: puerto rico, US virgin islands, etc. There are 7 of them. The patriot act defines them as states, so you should probably consider them at least.

hillbilly123069
10-12-2011, 01:20 PM
1 requirement should be they never once received any corporate donations. Of the people thing. Beyond that, trust a politician? Bah hah hah hah!

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 01:25 PM
1 requirement should be they never once received any corporate donations. Of the people thing. Beyond that, trust a politician? Bah hah hah hah!

Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Dean Heller are politicians.

pcosmar
10-12-2011, 01:38 PM
Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Dean Heller are politicians.

Ron Paul is a Statesman. (and a rare man)
I choose to support him as a representative. ( I hope he will do as he has long advocated)

I have never "supported" a politician.

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 02:02 PM
3 of the governors on the Council of Governors have been voted out of office. So I was able eliminate 7 by using the list. I can't find an updated list...

realtonygoodwin
10-12-2011, 02:30 PM
What is the Council of Governors?

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 02:32 PM
As someone planning to move to New Hampshire, I hope you replace John Lynch asap.

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 02:34 PM
What is the Council of Governors?

Obama's way of consolidating power. Just like the Super Congress. In other words, more tyranny.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Governors

http://www.infowars.com/american-republic-replaced-by-council-of-governors/

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 03:24 PM
This isn't looking good. Lol. I'm not sure I will be able to match the total from the Senators list (3).

John F Kennedy III
10-12-2011, 10:08 PM
Bump for the night crowd.

Do you trust your governor?

enoch150
10-13-2011, 03:29 AM
Bump for the night crowd.

Do you trust your governor?

My governor proposed arguably the largest tax increase in the state's history and then went on national tv and, when asked about Ron Paul, said "I think he's an idiot."

I trust he will do exactly the wrong thing, every time.

eduardo89
10-13-2011, 04:11 AM
As a rule of thumb: if they are in office, don't trust them.

Keith and stuff
10-13-2011, 04:14 AM
As someone planning to move to New Hampshire, I hope you replace John Lynch asap.

He isn't running again in 2012 :)

youngbuck
10-13-2011, 04:15 AM
You are correct on having Hickenlooper of CO on the list to distrust.

Kludge
10-13-2011, 04:17 AM
I don't see any governors listed from the non-state states. ie: puerto rico, US virgin islands, etc. There are 7 of them. The patriot act defines them as states, so you should probably consider them at least.
With that in mind, there's a lot of libertarian love for PR's governor, Luis Fortuño.

Edit: He is on Council of Governors, however.

John F Kennedy III
10-13-2011, 12:02 PM
My governor proposed arguably the largest tax increase in the state's history and then went on national tv and, when asked about Ron Paul, said "I think he's an idiot."

I trust he will do exactly the wrong thing, every time.

That's exactly why he was removed from the list.

John F Kennedy III
10-13-2011, 12:04 PM
He isn't running again in 2012 :)

Awesome :)

You should run. Under the name Keith and stuff. "Obama brought change, I'm bringing stuff" :p

flightlesskiwi
10-13-2011, 01:16 PM
Martinez isn't horrible, she is trying to clean up Richardson's mess. i would say she is typical GOP establishment.

i wouldn't trust any politician who was born and raised and/or has risen to political power in this state (NM). including Johnson.

if you want to know why i say this, read The Milagro Beanfield War by John Nicohls. he captures the new mexican culture(s) and political climate muy bien.

also:

Lew Wallace (author of Ben Hur and territorial governor of NM) made this quote after being subjected to this place: "All calculations based on experience elsewhere, fail in New Mexico."

the politicians in this state (local and state and federal) are corrupt to the bone in their own little strange, eccentric, southwestern way. http://www.capitolreportnewmexico.com/?tag=spaceport-america <--especially the blog post named "John Grubesic: Why I hate Spaceport"

John F Kennedy III
10-13-2011, 01:35 PM
Martinez isn't horrible, she is trying to clean up Richardson's mess. i would say she is typical GOP establishment.

i wouldn't trust any politician who was born and raised and/or has risen to political power in this state (NM). including Johnson.

if you want to know why i say this, read The Milagro Beanfield War by John Nicohls. he captures the new mexican culture(s) and political climate muy bien.

also:

Lew Wallace (author of Ben Hur and territorial governor of NM) made this quote after being subjected to this place: "All calculations based on experience elsewhere, fail in New Mexico."

the politicians in this state (local and state and federal) are corrupt to the bone in their own little strange, eccentric, southwestern way. http://www.capitolreportnewmexico.com/?tag=spaceport-america <--especially the blog post named "John Grubesic: Why I hate Spaceport"

Thanks. I'll check into it. And I'm glad to find some else that doesn't trust Johnson :)

John F Kennedy III
10-13-2011, 01:41 PM
What do you guys think about these governors?

Butch Otter (R-ID)
Mitch Daniels (R-IN)
Haley Barbour (R-MISS)
Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Scott Walker (R-WI)

Uriah
10-13-2011, 02:26 PM
How did you come up with this list?
What are you looking to gain from this list? A VP or cabinet member for Dr. Paul?

John F Kennedy III
10-13-2011, 02:32 PM
How did you come up with this list?
What are you looking to gain from this list? A VP or cabinet member for Dr. Paul?

I started with all of them. I did the same with Senators and will do the same with Representatives. It's a search for politicians that are fighting for us. A VP or cabinet member can be picked from these lists when I'm done. One of the ideas when I started was for these lists to be people we can support for President in the future. And also that an incumbent NOT on the lists isn't to be trusted and we should fight to unseat them.

LibertyEagle
10-13-2011, 02:39 PM
I don't know much about this guy, but I heard him on CSPAN this morning and liked what he was saying, so I went to look him up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Duncan_(U.S._politician)


Duncan and Ron Paul were the only two Republicans to vote against funding for the Iraq War on May 24, 2007.[4] Duncan voted, along with three other Republicans, to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq by April 2008 on July 12, 2007.[5]

On March 10, 2010, Duncan again joined three other Republicans in voting for the removal of troops from Afghanistan.[6] Duncan and Paul were the only members of Congress to vote for the removal of troops from Afghanistan and against all recent bailout and stimulus bills.[7]

Duncan is a member of the Liberty Caucus (sometimes called the Liberty Committee), a group of libertarian-minded congressional Republicans.[8] Congressman Ron Paul hosts a luncheon for the Liberty Caucus every Thursday. Other members include Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, Roscoe Bartlett of Maryland, Scott Garrett of New Jersey, Zach Wamp of Tennessee and Jeff Flake of Arizona.[9] Despite the moderate Republican, he voted against the Wall Street bailout. Duncan, in a column explaining his vote, stated he "thought it would be better in the long run not to adopt the socialist approach."[10] According to National Journal’s 2009 Vote Ratings, he was ranked as the 133rd conservative member in the House.[11]

Beyond that, I haven't researched him and he would need to be.

bwlibertyman
10-13-2011, 03:02 PM
I'm in Indiana. Daniels in decent. he only has one more year. Mike pence will most likely be the next governor. he is a Neo con and should not be trusted. he might keep taxes low. I would definitely take pence off the list.

John F Kennedy III
10-13-2011, 03:18 PM
I'm in Indiana. Daniels in decent. he only has one more year. Mike pence will most likely be the next governor. he is a Neo con and should not be trusted. he might keep taxes low. I would definitely take pence off the list.

Thanks. I took Daniels off the list for the two things in this thread:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322788-Do-you-trust-your-governor