The OFFICIAL (10/11/11) Debate Thread! - Bloomberg / WaPo @ Dartmouth

[Matt Collins]

It's all about economics, and it's in NH. This will be Ron Paul's chance to really shine through!



Who is taking bets for how much air time he'll actually be given?

[Matt Collins]

The Republican Presidential Debate at Dartmouth College, and a special pre-debate panel featuring prominent journalists and Dartmouth professors called Leading Voices: What’s at Stake in the Republican Debate, will be broadcast live on multiple digital platforms on Tuesday, October 11. The Debate begins at 8 p.m., and the Leading Voices panel will run from 5 to 6 p.m.


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[matt0611]

Can't wait, someone needs to take Cain down.

[bluesc]

People are not going to be happy with you.

Is it 2 hours long? 15 minutes.

[TXcarlosTX]

The narrative that I will be following is to see if Cain is ready for PRIMETIME!!!

We know Perry wasn't. He the next guy being served up by the media and elite.

Should be interesting.

[afwjam]

Im hoping they just let Cain talk the whole time.

[kill the banks]

I hope he talks their ear off ... several rebuttals and calm cool calculated responses that cut deep into the charlatans

[FSP-Rebel]

Not sure what angle Ron is going to take regarding Cain tomorrow but I sure hope that Perry and/or Bachmann takes it to him. Bachmann's only lifeline back to relative prominence is to hit Cain hard on TARP and regain herself some stature.

[eduardo89]

10/11/11 -> 10th of November?

[Butchie]

Here's my prediction: He'll get a few questions, one which will undoubtedly be about the Cleric killing which will ofcourse set the crowd booing Ron, other than that, they may ask him about the fence comment again or some other meaningless topic.

[Sola_Fide]

It's all about economics? In that case Ron Paul won't be invited.

[Matt Collins]

10/11/11 -> 10th of November?In the US the syntax is mm/dd/yy

[wgadget]

Yes, Ron should take every one of his 9 minutes and tell them that he did not support the BAILOUTS, TARP, the STIMULUS, nada, unlike certain OTHERS on the stage.

[eduardo89]

In the US the syntax is mm/dd/yy

Oh you crazy Americans.

Actually I should be used to it, I grew up in Canada.

[Bruno]

10/11/11 -> 10th of November?

Not in the U.S. Month first.

[tangent4ronpaul]

As to Cain, someone had better bring up his working for the FED!

Bloomberg has been pre-viewing the debate and one guy said that the entire worth of the US was between 70 and 100 Trillion and that is a major problem with a 14 Trillion debt.

-t

[libertybrewcity]

I'll say 8 minutes. The first question won't come until 24 minutes in.

[tribute_13]

Here's my prediction: He'll get a few questions, one which will undoubtedly be about the Cleric killing which will ofcourse set the crowd booing Ron, other than that, they may ask him about the fence comment again or some other meaningless topic.

Why on earth would they ask him a question on foreign policy or border control during an economic debate?

[Butchie]

Why on earth would they ask him a question on foreign policy or border control during an economic debate?

Why do they ask him any of the dumb questions they ask him? Do I really need to answer this?

[Tinnuhana]

Maybe they'll ask him about biking around Massabesic without a helmet on?
Should they ask him about his desire to "End the Fed?"
"Here's thirty seconds in which to tell us how you'd set up competing currencies, audit the Fed, allowing bad debt to liquidate; and put it all in context of the Great Depression and FDR."
"Mr. Cain, you were a regional Fed chairman. Is Mr. Paul right?"
Anyone here think that this will be Santorum's last debate?

[bolidew]

Rick Santorum better don't create his extra time out of thin air..... or maybe Ron can do it that way too?

[r3volution]

i declare this thread UNOFFICALL !

[libertybrewcity]

Apple or Iphone? Hitler or Westboro Church?

[Razmear]

Will anyone be able to watch this debate tho? Nothing in my local listings in SC? Not sure how many people get the Bloomberg channel around here.

[tangent4ronpaul]

It's being streemed on 2 web sites - see post 2

[J_White]

Oh, you forgot the "3rd party candidate" question, maybe even FEMA !!


Here's my prediction: He'll get a few questions, one which will undoubtedly be about the Cleric killing which will ofcourse set the crowd booing Ron, other than that, they may ask him about the fence comment again or some other meaningless topic.

[J_White]

and then give "frontrunner Mr.Cain" 2-3 minutes to explain his stupid 999 plan !!
I hope I dont see Santa again, .....ever !!


Maybe they'll ask him about biking around Massabesic without a helmet on?
Should they ask him about his desire to "End the Fed?"
"Here's thirty seconds in which to tell us how you'd set up competing currencies, audit the Fed, allowing bad debt to liquidate; and put it all in context of the Great Depression and FDR."
"Mr. Cain, you were a regional Fed chairman. Is Mr. Paul right?"
Anyone here think that this will be Santorum's last debate?

[Razmear]

It's being streemed on 2 web sites - see post 2

Yeah, but I don't see many seniors around here sitting in front of their PCs watching webstreams of the debate. I'm sure I can find a way to watch it, but the average voter won't even know it's on.

eb

[jason43]

I'd like to see them ask Cain about the 999 plan in depth. Like how most zillionaires dont actually make income like the rest of us, so their 9 percent wouldnt be taxed at all. How someone who works for themself would be taxed via this new system. How 999 wont turn into 35 35 35 in 20 years. The fair tax makes more sense than this new tax, keep the old taxes too, plan.

I want them to hammer him on his Fed chairmanship, and his reversal on the Fed Audit and later denial he was against it.

This should be the Paul debate. Economics is his strongest suit for most 'mainstream' republicans. I wish it was on mainstream TV. The only people that are going to see this are basically us and people who see clips on the main news channels the next day that can be manipulated as the MSM owners see fit.

[TomtheTinker]

ill take bets at an over under of 7 minutes and 25 seconds.

[TheTexan]

Ron needs to take the gloves off for this one. He won't get much talking time if he talks only about how great his knowledge of economics is... he needs to go on the attack, and of all the arenas he should go on the attack in... economics is it.

[tangent4ronpaul]

He presented a bill a while ago to fic the economy. When asked he should highlight what is in that. the media ignored it.

[Bruno]

Ron should say his 0-0-0 plan before Santorum can. I heard Rick say it before the VVS.

[Crotale]

Ron Paul needs to show how he is the only frontrunner who opposed TARP, and stress how Cain and Romney supported it. It would also be cool if Ron Paul talked about how he predicted the collapse, whereas Cain said it was all rosy and in the following two weeks the global economy was torn apart.

[PauliticsPolitics]

and then give "frontrunner Mr.Cain" 2-3 minutes to explain his stupid 999 plan !!
Did you just say "frontrunner Mr.Cain" ?
Looks familiar - maybe the mainstream republicans are going green.
Time to recycle those old signs from 2008...

http://i56.tinypic.com/2a6qslf.jpg

[zHorns]

I don't get Bloomberg, but I'll steam it live.

Looking forward to this one.

[Billay]

Did you just say "frontrunner Mr.Cain" ?
Looks familiar - maybe the mainstream republicans are going green.
Time to recycle those old signs from 2008...

http://i56.tinypic.com/2a6qslf.jpg


lololol! Made with pizza boxes I hope!

[D.A.S.]

Ron Paul needs to show how he is the only frontrunner who opposed TARP, and stress how Cain and Romney supported it. It would also be cool if Ron Paul talked about how he predicted the collapse, whereas Cain said it was all rosy and in the following two weeks the global economy was torn apart.

THIS^^^^

Please please I hope Doug Wead can relay this to Ron :-)

[69360]

THIS^^^^

Please please I hope Doug Wead can relay this to Ron :-)

I am sure he will. I can see that Doug is responsible for a lot of the recent success and deserves a ton of thanks from all of us.

But I bet Ron gets to speak for 5 minutes tops.

[Shane Harris]

he needs to say. listen. economic policy does not exist within a vacuum. economic policy is inextricably tied to monetary policy, domestic policy, and foreign policy. to ignore this truth and think that we can sever economic policy from the rest is foolish and unsound. the government cannot create jobs. jobs are a means not an end in themselves. the goal of any economy is to allow the free market to compete and create better products that consumers want at less cost. essentially to make the best service with the least amount of effort. our society is only as efficient as it is because we have in the past enjoyed a relatively free market. without which we wouldnt have cars or the tvs or machinery to broadcast this.etc. jobs are a natural part of a healthy economy, and, being a doctor, the way to cure our economy is to stop taking the poison of corporatism, the unholy marriage of corporations with big government, using regulations and bailouts and favors to push out small businesses and competition. If we liberate our economy to a free market america will rise again as the greatest nation in the world and wave the flag of liberty atop the mountain of prosperity.

[Merk]

I am sure he will. I can see that Doug is responsible for a lot of the recent success and deserves a ton of thanks from all of us.

But I bet Ron gets to speak for 5 minutes tops.

If/when they skip Ron on all the questions he is best suited to answer, I'd love to hear the audience bring the live broadcast to a halt with a chant of,

"Let Ron Speak!"

[fisharmor]

In the US the syntax is mm/dd/yy
We're both wrong - the format to use is yyyy-mm-dd because 1) the century is unambiguous and 2) it's sortable.

Anyone know where I can watch this thing online?

[Crotale]

Anyone know the time of the debate in GMT?

EDIT: 100th post. :)

[Xelaetaks]

I'm calling Bloomberg requesting fair air time for Ron Paul.

[slamhead]

Anyone know the time of the debate in GMT?

EDIT: 100th post. :)

It is on at 5PM PDT and I am -8 from GMT. 17:00hr + 8 = 25 so I am thinking 1:00am Wednesday for your time. Actually I was going off of EST but I see the debates are in a EDT so the difference is -7 or -4 for you so midnight your time.

[Crotale]

It is on at 5PM PDT and I am -8 from GMT. 17:00hr + 8 = 25 so I am thinking 1:00am Wednesday for your time. Actually I was going off of EST but I see the debates are in a EDT so the difference is -7 or -4 for you so midnight your time.

Cool, I'll set my alarm. :)

Who cares about college tommorow?

[Join The Paul Side]

It's probably already posted somewhere, but is there a live stream over the web for this debate tonight? If so please link. Thanks. :)

[Cdn_for_liberty]

I hope this debate will be better than CNN, Fox or NBC. Bloomberg seems to be more of a serious news network compared to the others so I hope they won't ask b/s questions.

[eduardo89]

Cool, I'll set my alarm. :)

Who cares about college tommorow?

I'm in GMT+1, so debates (and NHL games) are always really late for me.

Luckily tomorrow's a bank holiday here in Spain :)

[hellsingfan]

This really is the forum that could be awesome for RP if he does certain things, if not, it'll just be another 'day' without significance.

1. He MUST point out that he predicted the collapse, the housing bubble, the subprime problem and so forth.
2. He MUST point out that Cain said there was no housing bubble and everything was fine while he was with the fed, while RP predicted this long ago
3. He MUST point out that in the 2008 election Romeny and the likes were saying 'its all fine'... while RP was warning of serious problems

4. He MUST make this point..'Do you want to follow people who were wrong before and now say things to win elections, or someone who was right all along to lead this country out of this economic crisis? That is really the choice people have to make."

I REALLY REALLY hope that campaign advisers have told him to go after Cain on his housing bubble remarks and so forth. This would be a MISSED opportunity. Perry has gone down the toilet, and now its time for Cain. But if he doesn't make this a point to mention we really gained nothing.

Someone with contact to the campaign please tell Ron to do this. This is the only thing that will give us some boost. These new 'Cain' folks just jumped ship, they haven't solidified on the guy, and if you can discredit him right now, before people get used to him, the effect wiill be huge, they will jump ship again- hopefully towards Paul.

[Steve-in-NY]

This is going to be the best debate for Paul yet.
Its on his topic, I have some faith that Bloomberg is going to give Paul more time, and its "economy specifics" day - which means a lot of other candidates are going to be saying:
humma-humma-hummina...

I also recon its going to be a very long night for Cain.
Perry will do well, unless hes pressed. Then he will repeat what he said well again, and look silly doing it, but not really lose too much face.
Overall, its not so much Rons night to shine as much as it is Cains to lose.

... which means if Cain drops the ball here (and I can see that happening) then Ron will find himself in second or a closer third (due to numbers.

theres more but Im outy. g2g latea

[redmod79]

is there a website that will be streaming the debate?

[eduardo89]

Actually this is the official thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322203-OFFICIAL-(Matt-Collins-Seal-of-Approval)-BLOOMBERG-DEBATE-THREAD-OCT-11

[Aratus]

dude, you cut loose the toadies yesterday i see

[orenbus]

is there a website that will be streaming the debate?

http://www.rentadrone.tv/bloomberg-us/

[bluesc]

Chief blogger for Obama '08 just said all of the Republican candidates are weak on the internet and social media with the exception of Ron Paul :p

[Shane Harris]

thats stream doesnt work are there others?

[bluesc]

thats stream doesnt work are there others?

Use this one:

http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

[Rudeman]

So does the debate start in 1 hour? Pretty sure that's what I heard one of them say.

[bluesc]

So does the debate start in 1 hour? Pretty sure that's what I heard one of them say.

Yep.

[jcarcinogen]

So does the debate start in 1 hour? Pretty sure that's what I heard one of them say.
yes. What are the protesters saying?

[TwoJ]

Gop something something, couldn't hear

[Margo37]

Yeah, but I don't see many seniors around here sitting in front of their PCs watching webstreams of the debate.

but the average voter won't even know it's on.

eb

I am but you're right about the 2nd.

[eduardo89]

Please move debate talk to the official thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322203-OFFICIAL-(Matt-Collins-Seal-of-Approval)-BLOOMBERG-DEBATE-THREAD-OCT-11

[bluesc]

Wow. Huntsman has a better chance to win the nomination than Ron on intrade? Lol.

[ronpaulfollower999]

wow. Huntsman has a better chance to win the nomination than ron on intrade? Lol.

btfd

[tribute_13]

The spin is already starting. The girl reporter when asked about which candidate under the headlining candidates should she keep an eye on she said "I'm getting my cue from Matt and he seems to know alot about these things."

[Razmear]

Please move debate talk to the official thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?322203-OFFICIAL-(Matt-Collins-Seal-of-Approval)-BLOOMBERG-DEBATE-THREAD-OCT-11

This thread is stickyed on the front page of RPF, so it is the Official Thread.

[Harry96]

In addition to wondering how much time/how many questions Ron will get, we could also get a pool going on how many people here will ask for links for watching the debate online. Double points if numerous other people in the thread have already asked (so, hell, why not add your request in too, right?). Triple points if numerous different links have already been posted. 1979 called; it said it's time to get some cable going.

[tribute_13]

Is there a live chat for the debate anywhere where I can tell Cain supporters about his Aquila scandal.

[jcarcinogen]

a Ron Paul mini-blimp!

[zerosdontcount]

Tons of Ron Paul stuff in the background :)

[Harry96]

BTW, I'm watching it on TV, but it took me two seconds to Google "bloomberg streaming," which took me to http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/ at the top of the list. If you go there, the live stream comes up automatically with a beautiful, crystal-clear picture.

[awake]

This is a wonderful political infomercial so far. "OWS" vs. the Tea Party. The Democrats have their ignorant pitchfork wielding mob-OWS.

[Brian4Liberty]

Everyone must take a drink every time they mention Huntsman!

[Harry96]

Two huge Ron Paul signs behind the hoarse-voiced anchor now.

[KramerDSP]

Ron Paul signs behind Charlie Rose! LMAO

[waterthetree]

Lets hope Dr. Paul brings out the big guns and starts swinging. If I were him I would be naming names on flip floppers and I would smash the 9-9-9 plan where it stands.

Only controversy gets him on tv, so give them some. When one of the neocons are lying call them on it. Call them on there undying support of big government. Attack, attack, attack! They are easy targets! All of them are big government neocons waiting on the lobbiests to tell them what to think and what to say.

Name names for gods sake, it gets the opponent a reply yes, but it will more then likely Dr. Paul a response aswell. Steal that camera!

And Dr. Paul should get mad, he should get emotional. Bring the hammer down cause everyone knows Dr. Paul is the frontrunner here.

Just as important Dr. Paul needs continue hammering on the things that are bipartisan issues. The corruption, the cronyism, the corporate welfare, the inflation, and the federal reserve. I would love it if he asked all the candidates how they plan to end the corruption and cronyism. I would love it if he called Mitt has surrounded himself with the same people as Bush.

Ron Paul 2012! Oct 19th moneybomb! A hundred bucks a month is a small price to pay to get your freedom back! believe me it will only get more expensive as time goes on.

[Harry96]

I'm not very familiar with the Bloomberg channel, so I wonder how this is going to go. Charlie Rose is moderating. He's a Bilderberger and obviously a mainstream media guy, but his PBS show always looked pretty decent from what little I've seen of it.

[Harry96]

Ron Paul signs behind Charlie Rose! LMAO

That's not Charlie Rose.

[awake]

The political class, their fanatics and pant leg pullers have finally managed to overwhelm the productive capabilities of the producing class.

[alexaforronpaul]

I'm getting excited! Can't wait to see Ron shine!

[69360]

The RP sign is blocking the ows sign!

[Matt Collins]

Let the games begin!

[awake]

"Fair redistribution" = being stolen from the least and claiming your are the worst victim of theft.

[thehighwaymanq]

I love the automatic refresh!

[KramerDSP]

"PEACE Ron Paul" - Awesome.

"Stop The War On Women"

"Ron Paul 2012"

"End The ATMS"

Hahahahaha

[MarcNY]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpY8pC-uG0U

[libertybrewcity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpY8pC-uG0U

^^why do you keep posting this?

[Carehn]

http://www.rentadrone.tv/bloomberg-us/
You sexy beast, you!

[69360]

Ron's in the center!

[Harry96]

I've always liked the sit-down format for debates.

[69360]

^^why do you keep posting this?

Yeah really. A 3rd party run hands the election to BO on a silver platter.

[bluesc]

I've always liked the sit-down format for debates.

Ron is most comfortable that way.

Let's go!

[Harry96]

Ron is most comfortable that way.

Let's go!

I would think everyone would be, physically. Standing in one spot for two hours is brutal.

[Kords21]

Get em Ron!

[MRoCkEd]

Provide commentary for those on mobile devices please

[Razmear]

Will they have a kids table for Santorum and Huntsman?

[bluesc]

I would think everyone would be, physically. Standing in one spot for two hours is brutal.

I meant when speaking. He moves around a lot when standing and speaking.

[xdream]

It's all about economics, and it's in NH. This will be Ron Paul's chance to really shine through!



Who is taking bets for how much air time he'll actually be given?

I have 5 bucks... er... debt notes on 7 questions. ;)

[Harry96]

I meant when speaking. He moves around a lot when standing and speaking.

I know, but I would think it'd be much more comfortable physically for everyone. As George Costanza said, why stand when you can sit?

[Carehn]

NOOOOO! The stream will not work. Please someone help me. Im getting the shakes. Need my Ron fix!

[Canderson]

no gary johnson?

[ronpaulfollower999]

Omg. Automatic thread updates.

[awake]

RP signs are waving

[Chieppa1]

Bloomberg/TV stream is working, just audio is a little off.

[tribute_13]

If they use the Reality Check on Ron Paul mid sentence during an answer, I will literally throw my computer out the window.

[Harry96]

This new auto refresh thing is horrible. Every time I'm in the middle of typing something, the auto refresh yanks the page up, away from my text box.

OMG, it has happened like six times while I've been typing this. What the hell is wrong with whoever designed this?!

[Carehn]

Bloomberg/TV stream is working, just audio is a little off.
Link, LINK! For the love of God, Link!

[Chieppa1]

ummm.... http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

its a weird one lol.

[Harry96]

Thanks again to whoever did this. Hitting the refresh button whenever I wanted to reload the thread was way too taxing.

[bluesc]

Link, LINK! For the love of God, Link!

http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

[Patrick Henry]

This should be amazing for RP, but I fear this debate will be a joke. I sure hope I am wrong.

[Harry96]

Link, LINK! For the love of God, Link!

How do I Google Bloomberg?! For the love of God, how do I do it?!

[ronpaulfollower999]

9-9-9

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Dr. Paul front and center! :D

[libertybrewcity]

999!

http://i.imgur.com/Wz4TD.jpg

[Bongo Fury]

Nein Nein Nein

[ZanZibar]

Is this auto refreshing?!!? why?!!

[bluesc]

999!

[johndeal]

Blinking alot.

[IterTemporis]

How can we turn it off?

[Kords21]

999 mentioned 4 times in a min? Good grief

[Shane Harris]

holy cow hes the blinking king

[Carehn]

http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/
thank you good sir.

[sevin]

Is this auto refreshing?!!? why?!!

That's awesome!

[Tina]

LOL Perry has on his sweet face.

[Harry96]

This auto refresh is yanking the page all around every two seconds!

[JoshLowry]

Is this auto refreshing?!!? why?!!

Lighter server load.

[johndeal]

As you know I am a former Democrat so that will help.
Rick Perry

[tribute_13]

lol Perry is already sounding like a moron.

[green73]

auto refresh is great!

[ZanZibar]

HOW do we turn it off?!?!

[Deinonychus]

Auto refresh is pretty neat.

[ZanZibar]

Everytime it refreshed the pages moves, we can't read the posts!

[flightlesskiwi]

"we need a leader" meme = SUCKS

[akalucas]

999? more like 666:eek:

[sevin]

"I'd be a leader." I'm so tired of BS generalities like this. What's your PLAN!?

[Harry96]

Lighter server load.

You know what else will give you a lighter server load? Every single person logging off because this auto refresh makes the thread unreadable.

[jberchtold]

that's what i'm thinking

[awake]

Cain, Perry and Rommy, more hot air than a hair dressing convention.

[1836er]

Saying nothing at all so far this bunch of losers. Ho hum.

[Bongo Fury]

59 59 59

[carmaphob]

auto refresh work great for me.

[pacelli]

looks like the "economy show" is going to be the fucking "perry-romney" show again

[WD-NY]

note the camera angles - they're angled so Paul doesn't show up in any frame that includes the other "front runners"

[Chieppa1]

Ron is front and center, but not with their camera angles

[Eric21ND]

999......drink everyone!

[ronpaulfollower999]

I can read the thread fine on my iPad 2.

[bunklocoempire]

Nein Nein Nein

lol! beat me to it!

"Bongo Fury” Frank Zappa approved! Welcome!!



Bunkloco

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

This is like every other debate: ignore Dr. Paul and go back to Romney and Perry over and over. :mad: :rolleyes:

[Andrew Ryan]

Auto refresh working fine for me as well.

[pauliticalfan]

bachmann before paul wtf

[flightlesskiwi]

999......drink everyone!

was this the game tonight? missed the memo!

[jkob]

They're doing some careful camerawork to make sure they don't show Ron

[Andrew Ryan]

Bachmann looks terrifying

[Tiger35]

Boy they sure can talk for hours about nothing.

[hazek]

Bachmann speaking some substance and truth for a change..

[bluesc]

Bachmann was just parroting Ron.

[Matt Collins]

Herman Cain:
From TARP-apologist to Mr. Tea Party?


“If they want to nail me with my support for TARP -- you know what? I'm not going to be able to counter that.” - (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/herman-cain-my-support-for-tarp-could-be-a-problem.php)Herman Cain: My Support For TARP Could Be A Problem (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/06/herman-cain-my-support-for-tarp-could-be-a-problem.php), 06/09/11


Back in 2008, Cain wrote that anyone who opposed the financial sector bailout was practicing “economic illiteracy”:
“The problem is economic illiteracy…” Far from Nationalization, Purchase of Bank Stocks Is a Win-Win for Taxpayers (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm), 10/20/2008


Cain defended his support of TARP, again and again:
“We can take our $700 billion in aspirin now, or wait for a $700 trillion surgery if the economy tanks.” Wall Street and the Disastrous Main Street Ripple Effect That Could Have Been (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc129.htm), 09/22/2008

“Earth to taxpayers! Owning stock in banks is not nationalization of the banking industry. It’s trying to solve a problem. Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem.” Far from Nationalization, Purchase of Bank Stocks Is a Win-Win for Taxpayers (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm), 10/20/2008

“The free market purists’ objection to this is that it smacks at government control of the banking industry, which is called nationalization. They are correct. It smacks...” Far from Nationalization, Purchase of Bank Stocks Is a Win-Win for Taxpayers (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm), 10/20/2008


…and believed that TARP would work just fine:
“Now don’t tell Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, but if this works, and I believe it will, the Bush Administration will have gotten this one right. “ Far from Nationalization, Purchase of Bank Stocks Is a Win-Win for Taxpayers (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm), 10/20/2008

“The actions by the Treasury are a win-win for the taxpayer. Far from Nationalization, Purchase of Bank Stocks Is a Win-Win for Taxpayers (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm), 10/20/2008

“These actions by the Treasury, the Federal Reserve Bank and the actions by the Federal Depositors Insurance Corporation (FDIC) … these actions have a high probability of success.” Far from Nationalization, Purchase of Bank Stocks Is a Win-Win for Taxpayers (http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm), 10/20/2008

[Eric21ND]

was this the game tonight? missed the memo!
It's always the game! :) Drink on "Obamacare" from Bachmann and take a shot @ "One....Term...President" lol

[hazek]

Bachmann was just parroting Ron.

Yep, and left out FED, but still..

[Give me liberty]

Newt is a moron

[ZanZibar]

No Newt is brilliant. He's like a fox.

[Seth]

Let's see if they go to Santorum and Huntsman before Ron...

[Harry96]

I can't stand this stupid auto refresh jerking the page up and down every few seconds. This literally sapped every ounce of enjoyment I could possibly get from chatting about the debate here, and it looks like a lot of others feel the same way. I'm out.

[Esoteric]

sooo how about Bachmann parroting Ron's 2003 housing statement?

[airborne373]

Newt loves the sound of his own voice.

[pauliticalfan]

Newt Gingrich: No Littering

[flightlesskiwi]

No Newt is brilliant. He's like a fox.

a slimy fox. full of snot.

[JoshLowry]

Changed auto-refresh to every 20 seconds.

(You may have to refresh the page manually if you are still stuck at refreshing every 5 seconds.)

[Tiger35]

Put Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in jail. LOL

[bluesc]

Oh I dislike Newt.

[Bongo Fury]

It's always the game! :) Drink on "Obamacare" from Bachmann and take a shot @ "One....Term...President" lol

I'm taking a sip of wine every time someone speaks except Ron Paul. <hick>

[Tiger35]

Hey we are all co-opting your message HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[Cdn_for_liberty]

LOL jab at Cain!

[Proph]

Hah...he just burned Cain.

[bluesc]

Ron just hit out at Cain :p

[RonPaulVolunteer]

I'm going to faint - they just asked Ron a question about the Fed!!

[Harry96]

Changed auto-refresh to every 20 seconds.

(You may have to refresh the page manually if you are still stuck at refreshing every 5 seconds.)

Thanks, Josh. It's better.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

BOOM. Dr. Paul just called Cain out (indirectly).

[kill the banks]

go Ron

[green73]

Say it's Cain, Ron. The crowd won't know.

[Kords21]

Liked the credit he gave bloomberg

[johndeal]

Will they address Cain and the Fed?

[ZanZibar]

I fell out of my chair when Ron said that!

[flightlesskiwi]

build coalitions, not give up principles!

[awake]

Cain, Perry and Rommy, more hot air than a hair dressing convention.

[johndeal]

Nope

[svobody]

Say it's Cain, Ron. IThe crowd won't know.I'm sure it'll get back to that

[Chieppa1]

Wish he called out Cain by name. No one but us knows who he's talking about.

[crhoades]

by not mentioning cain by name he didn't give him 30 seconds... :)

[Kords21]

That was brilliant to not call Cain by name

[Harry96]

Santorum, right now, you're the gas capitol of the world.

[WD-NY]

WOW - that answer perfectly captured Paul's 2 "personalities"

"Loopy/Goofy" Ron started the answer (waving of hands, texas drawl, etc.) - not good.

But "serious/stern" Paul came out of nowhere and cleaned up during the second half of his answer. Hopefully he can stay in that mode for the rest of the debate :)

[svobody]

by not mentioning cain by name he didn't give him 30 seconds... :)ding ding ding

[akalucas]

by not mentioning cain by name he didn't give him 30 seconds... :)
+1

[musicmax]

Great reaction to the question to RP. But he rambled again. Hope he calms down like he usually does in the seated interviews.

[JoshLowry]

I can't find this debate on any of my channels in Houston. :(

[devil21]

Ha I found the real debate thread. I was stuck on that Matt-approved bullshit one.

[Orgoonian]

That was brilliant to not call Cain by name

Agreed.
Let the others fall on their swords

[johndeal]

That could have been a lot funnier Huntsman

[IterTemporis]

Nice eye roll Perry.

[Esoteric]

Ron needed to say that Herman used to WORK FOR THE FED. 4 out of 10 .

[Give me liberty]

Newt stole Ron Paul speech :mad:

[ronpaulfollower999]

Wtf was that face by perry?

[akalucas]

lol perry just rolled his eyes

[bluesc]

I can't find this debate on any of my channels in Houston. :(

Can you watch online? http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

[smithtg]

I can't find this debate on any of my channels in Houston. :(

live stream

hxxp://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

[Kords21]

Maybe he just passed gas?

[Carehn]

This debate sucks.

[devil21]

Did RP dye his eyebrows? They look really funny.

[VictorB]

I can't find this debate on any of my channels in Houston. :(

ATT Uverse channel 222

or watch online at: http://www.bloomberg.com/tv/

[jumpyg1258]

Newt stole Ron Paul speech :mad:

They always do this to Ron, they make sure they get other candidates to speak first so it sounds like its their ideas instead of Ron's.

[musicmax]

WaPo for Death Panels

[bunklocoempire]

Wtf was that face by perry?

Merck party favors?

[orenbus]

I can't find this debate on any of my channels in Houston. :(

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics

[Kords21]

What's with all the Perry close ups?

[Cdn_for_liberty]

lol no question for RP on medicare?

[Bongo Fury]

What's with all the Perry close ups?

he has pretty hair

[lucky_bg]

I can't find this debate on any of my channels in Houston. :(

Washington Post stream works beautifully for me:

http://washingtonpostlive.com/conferences/2012-republican-presidential-debate

[Harry96]

Bachmann looks horrible. She somehow goes from hot to horrible from debate to debate.

[johndeal]

Ask the Doctor about medical care. Do it. I know you can.

[Eric21ND]

DRINK!! "Obamacare"

[jax]

damn the production value of this station blows. horrible lighting, shakey cameras, nervous hosts. however, i do like their debate style

[green73]

Maybe they're giving him the Nixon treatment, as he looks like hell.

[kahless]

The Bloomberg feed is the best quality live feed I think I have ever watched over the net. I do not get Bloomberg on Cablevision but the picture watching it over Cablevision internet is far superior than the quality of the HD channels they provide.

[Matt Collins]

Herman Cain: Federal Reserve Audit Unnecessary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18jMzTWJ9A

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18jMzTWJ9A)<strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18jMzTWJ9A" target="_blank">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q18jMzTWJ9A

[green73]

Maybe they're giving him the Nixon treatment, as he looks like hell.

Re: Perry

[Harry96]

Huntsman has great hair.

[Lord Xar]

Someone needs to get word to Jack Hunter/Wead and have them knock some sense into Ron and tell him to stop pussy footing around.

This is the same old shit where he goes over people's heads. Doesn't call anybody out and plays the polite gentlement, to a fault.

This is rather frustrating.

DID ANY OF YOU THINK THIS WAS GONNA BE DIFFERENT? The media follows the same exact script every fucking single time!!! It is Ron Paul who needs to change his script.. he isn't, so others steal his thunder, and he is wallowing in averageness becasue he doesn't take hold of the situation.

arghh.

[Maximus]

I'm enjoying the format so far. The establishment blowhards make it boring.

[smithtg]

does huntsman hair even move

[Aratus]

142 people are in our chatroom area

[Andrew Ryan]

Bachmann looks horrible. She somehow goes from hot to horrible from debate to debate.
lol wut

[bluesc]

Hahahaha. 999 just got owned.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Cain not getting much speaking time for a supposed front-runner.

[ronpaulfollower999]

Huntsman!!

[Kords21]

Bachman's laugh is just scary

[IterTemporis]

Nice one Huntsman.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Was that Bachmann or Hillary cackling?

[Kords21]

Sure is a long mintue for huntsman

[Harry96]

lol wut

Yeah, I know, some people disagree. Sometimes I think she looks really hot, then other times -- like tonight -- she looks horrible. She reminds me of the Two-Face from Seinfeld.

[bluesc]

999!

[Eric21ND]

6 drinks for 999 and three "Obamacares" from Bachmann...man I'm gonna be drunk!

[Bongo Fury]

lol....wait wait wait

[IterTemporis]

This is what Ron needs to do. He needs to speak out.

[green73]

zzzzz

[69360]

This is the biggest load of crap debate yet. Total bullshit.

[Harry96]

Cain's tie is ugly.