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They suggest its because you had to pay, but that's with just about every other poll! So, it sounds like its because 600 people left after Paul spoke and didn't want to hear establishment goons like Cain speak. Foul play! :cool: It really sounds like theyve got their panties in a bunch since Cain came in second. We can all assume that if Cain won the results would have been on the front page of every neocon publication.
CaptainAmerica
10-08-2011, 10:52 PM
just commented backing up Just War theory and Ron Paul!
realtonygoodwin
10-08-2011, 10:58 PM
It would be harder for them to say these things if we would stay and politely listen to all the speeches.
Anti Federalist
10-08-2011, 11:03 PM
It would be harder for them to say these things if we would stay and politely listen to all the speeches.
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It would be harder for them to say these things if we would stay and politely listen to all the speeches.
Stay and listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs
Anti Federalist
10-08-2011, 11:11 PM
Stay and listen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-6H4xOUrs
Followed up by:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLqplbwD644
realtonygoodwin
10-09-2011, 08:19 AM
You really just compared the other candidates and speakers to Hitler and Stalin?
acptulsa
10-09-2011, 08:29 AM
You really just compared the other candidates and speakers to Hitler and Stalin?
Well, let me try to be fair and balanced here (really, not Faux style). One the one hand, Flip Flopney really did kind of invite this comparison with his speech at the Citadel. He really did. On the other hand, it's hardly a fair comparison. If any of these jokers had half as much talent and charisma as either of them, we'd probably not still be in this race.
So, let us be grateful that it's definitely not a fair comparison.
pcosmar
10-09-2011, 08:35 AM
You really just compared the other candidates and speakers to Hitler and Stalin?
And rightly so.
I can not even stand listening to the debates, I have 2 so far. It is a most aggravating and frustrating endeavor.
Especially trying to decipher Cains gobbledegook.
"It usually translates as I am the best rubber stamp for the men behind the curtain".
The others are various shades of Socialism/Corporatism and Fascism.
The comparison is valid.
pcosmar
10-09-2011, 08:37 AM
Beck / The Blaze Runs Hit Piece on Ron Paul's Value Voter Summit Win
color me unsurprised.
:(
bluesc
10-09-2011, 08:38 AM
It would be harder for them to say these things if we would stay and politely listen to all the speeches.
You expected our supporters to buy the 2 day ticket just to have the decency to go and listen to people they don't care about? The schedule after Ron was Mitt, "Straight Talk on Gay "Marriage" and Glenn Beck. They probably top the things on my "never to do" list. Our supporters aren't the only ones to come to listen to and vote for their candidate. The difference was the others got the 2 day ticket because their candidate was speaking on day one and had to vote on day two. Don't believe the spin.
juleswin
10-09-2011, 08:52 AM
I have always dispised the way the American deligate ran out of the UN assembly when the Iranian president spoke. So I am not going to support any walk out of other republican candidate speeches. But if not this, they would find a reason to discredit his win, its always something
Anti Federalist
10-09-2011, 10:39 AM
You really just compared the other candidates and speakers to Hitler and Stalin?
Yes, yes I did.
To continue on the with same policies as we are now, is lunacy.
The legal framework and precedent is already in place.
Any of the other "machine" candidates will "follow orders" when the time comes.
We are one major "terror" attack away from gulags, roundups and concentration camps, I shit you not.
I wouldn't have hung around and given any of them the time of day either.
John F Kennedy III
10-09-2011, 10:42 AM
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John F Kennedy III
10-09-2011, 10:44 AM
Yes, yes I did.
To continue on the with same policies as we are now, is lunacy.
The legal framework and precedent is already in place.
Any of the other "machine" candidates will "follow orders" when the time comes.
We are one major "terror" attack away from gulags, roundups and concentration camps, I shit you not.
I wouldn't have hung around and given any of them the time of day either.
EXACTLY what AF said.
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sorianofan
10-09-2011, 11:01 AM
They spin every Ron Paul victory. Unless we win Iowa, we are doomed.
Anti Federalist
10-09-2011, 11:11 AM
They spin every Ron Paul victory. Unless we win Iowa, we are doomed.
Iowa is a must.
NH will go for Romney, the best we can hope for is a second.
You really just compared the other candidates and speakers to Hitler and Stalin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuefjIYKkjE
Anti Federalist
10-09-2011, 11:26 AM
Well, let me try to be fair and balanced here (really, not Faux style). One the one hand, Flip Flopney really did kind of invite this comparison with his speech at the Citadel. He really did. On the other hand, it's hardly a fair comparison.
If any of these jokers had half as much talent and charisma as either of them, we'd probably not still be in this race.
So, let us be grateful that it's definitely not a fair comparison.
LoL - fair point, well taken.
That speech was creepy, it really made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Gott Mitt Uns 'eh?
Romney: God Wants U.S. to Lead, Not Follow
Published October 07, 2011
Mitt Romney, the leading Republican presidential candidate, is calling for a century of American dominance in his first major foreign policy address, outlining plans to strengthen the U.S. military while rejecting multilateral institutions like the United Nations when necessary.
The former Massachusetts governor also condemns the isolationist policies supported by some conservative tea party members in a speech to be delivered Friday at The Citadel, an iconic military college in South Carolina. It comes as Romney has jumped back into the lead in national polling following Texas Gov. Rick Perry's disappointing performances in political debates.
The location of the speech, in the early primary voting state of South Carolina, is no coincidence.
Next year's election is likely to be dominated by domestic issues, especially the weak U.S. economic recovery from the Great Recession that has left millions of Americans without jobs. And while President Barack Obama may be vulnerable to criticism about the economy, he has considerably more foreign policy experience than Romney and most other Republicans in the 2012 election field.
Romney in Friday's speech speaks in broad terms about U.S. foreign policy but gives few specifics.
"This is America's moment. We should embrace the challenge, not shrink from it, not crawl into an isolationist shell, not wave the white flag of surrender, nor give in to those who assert America's moment has passed. That is utter nonsense," Romney says in prepared remarks obtained by The Associated Press.
Romney, who also ran for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, offers no clear direction for the war in Afghanistan, but says he would conduct a full review of the situation in his first 100 days in office to determine "the presence necessary to secure our gains and successfully complete our mission."
"This century must be an American century. In an American century, America has the strongest economy and the strongest military in the world," Romney says. "God did not create this country to be a nation of followers. America is not destined to be one of several equally balanced global powers. America must lead the world, or someone else will."
While Romney served as a Mormon missionary in France more than four decades ago, he has limited foreign policy experience. As he says in nearly every campaign stop, he has spent the majority of his life in the business world. But Romney has been critical of Obama's foreign policy, particularly the president's aggressive timeline to withdraw troops from Afghanistan.
At a campaign stop in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, on Thursday, Romney previewed some of the themes for Friday's speech. He called for 100,000 new troops, increased military spending and a larger Navy.
"You would think that the president and the people in Washington would recognize the importance of the United States military and the need not to shrink our military budget but strengthen it," Romney told veterans on the hangar deck of the World War II-era aircraft carrier USS Yorktown.
The former governor acknowledged waste in defense spending and "my life in the private sector taught me to go after waste and economize, and there is an opportunity to do that." But he said he wouldn't, as European nations have done, reduce defense to bolster social programs.
Romney also released the names of 22 advisers he will consult on foreign policy issues.
(Oh yeah, you should get a load of this list, authoritarian neo-cons in every sense of the word. Among some of the heroes of this mob:
Former CIA chief Michael Hayden, who oversaw Bush's controversial warrantless wiretapping of US citizens, and former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff will advise Romney on counter-terrorism and intelligence.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Romney-reveals-team-of-advisors_9856257#ixzz1aJ3faMj4 )
Romney calls for working with the United Nations when appropriate.
"But know this," he says. "While America should work with other nations, we always reserve the right to act alone to protect our vital national interests."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/07/romney-god-wants-us-to-lead-not-follow/#ixzz1aJ1pTNRh
And rightly so.
I can not even stand listening to the debates, I have 2 so far. It is a most aggravating and frustrating endeavor.
Especially trying to decipher Cains gobbledegook.
"It usually translates as I am the best rubber stamp for the men behind the curtain".
The others are various shades of Socialism/Corporatism and Fascism.
The comparison is valid.
If you have truly awaken, then it should feel like youre listening to Stalin or Hitler because they quite literally share the same philosophies. Were one false flag terrorist attack away from throwing Muslims in ovens. I don't know how Ron Paul has not gone crazy after 30 years of putting up with it.
johnwk
10-09-2011, 11:47 AM
hxxp://www.theblaze.com/stories/leading-social-conservative-suggests-foul-play-in-ron-paul-victory-at-values-voter-summit/
They suggest its because you had to pay, but that's with just about every other poll! So, it sounds like its because 600 people left after Paul spoke and didn't want to hear establishment goons like Cain speak. Foul play! :cool: It really sounds like theyve got their panties in a bunch since Cain came in second. We can all assume that if Cain won the results would have been on the front page of every neocon publication.
And let us not forget that Glenn Beck had Herman Cain on his show to promote the 9-9-9 plan and never questioned or played Devil's Advocate regarding a new tax on top of exiting income taxes, or Cain’s empowerment zones, which advocates unequal tax law and preferences to be given to arbitrarily selected areas, which is a RINO/PROGRESSIVE ‘redistribution of wealth”
idea.
Has Glenn Beck been paid to move to the dark side?
JWK
Yes, yes I did.
To continue on the with same policies as we are now, is lunacy.
The legal framework and precedent is already in place.
Any of the other "machine" candidates will "follow orders" when the time comes.
We are one major "terror" attack away from gulags, roundups and concentration camps, I shit you not.
I wouldn't have hung around and given any of them the time of day either.
lol @ same thinking....I read that after making my last post. The Muslims have been set up as the modern day Jew. Unless, that plan is changed in order to accommodate for people who want to legalize the Constitution.
Anti Federalist
10-09-2011, 12:00 PM
lol @ same thinking....I read that after making my last post. The Muslims have been set up as the modern day Jew.
Unless, that plan is changed in order to accommodate for people who want to legalize the Constitution.
Count on it.
Check this out: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?321621-FBI-Citizens-With-No-Ties-to-Terror-Groups-Present-Serious-National-Security-Threat
We are the target.
We have always been the target.
This fact was established almost 20 years ago at Waco and Ruby Ridge.
Those were the opening salvos in a war against the American people, and specifically, "our" contingent of it, that is still going on to this day.
ZanZibar
10-09-2011, 09:52 PM
Was Stalin doing a drinking game during his own speech? LOL
kahless
10-09-2011, 10:12 PM
Very disappointing. I was orgininally indifferent to Beck and then came to love his TV show thinking he was coming around only to be disappointed in 2009 that he appeared to be a fraud. It is sad since I agree with him on many issues but disappointing how he tries to herd us opposite to what he preaches. In other words he is a likable but total fraud.
FrankRep
10-10-2011, 08:04 AM
hxxp://www.theblaze.com/stories/leading-social-conservative-suggests-foul-play-in-ron-paul-victory-at-values-voter-summit/
They suggest its because you had to pay, but that's with just about every other poll! So, it sounds like its because 600 people left after Paul spoke and didn't want to hear establishment goons like Cain speak. Foul play! :cool: It really sounds like theyve got their panties in a bunch since Cain came in second. We can all assume that if Cain won the results would have been on the front page of every neocon publication.
Voting & leaving is rude and they will get BLOWBACK for it.
Deborah K
10-10-2011, 08:11 AM
I don't know how Ron Paul has not gone crazy after 30 years of putting up with it.
It's because his guidance is divinely inspired.
pcosmar
10-10-2011, 08:19 AM
Voting & leaving is rude and they will get BLOWBACK for it.
Pffftt !!
Then they would make up some other lame excuse.
TPTB do NOT want Ron Paul. Period.
VBRonPaulFan
10-10-2011, 08:21 AM
just a few babies crying because 'their' candidate didn't win. move along, the article isn't worth wasting your time reading.
Deborah K
10-10-2011, 08:23 AM
What if we were so well organized, that every straw poll from here on out was won by Ron? Is that what it's going to take to get these people to stop diminishing their own polls? I mean, what's it gonna take?
musicmax
10-10-2011, 08:58 AM
You really just compared the other candidates and speakers to Hitler and Stalin?
"America must lead the world, or someone else will." - Mitt Romney, 10/7/11
realtonygoodwin
10-10-2011, 09:14 AM
Wanting to lead your nation to the become world leaders is a far cry from enslaving and murdering millions of your fellow countrymen.
Steve-in-NY
10-10-2011, 10:45 AM
We need to GOTV HARD for the primaries.
Like on an epic, never-before-seen, Acorn-would-have-taken-notes-if-they-hadnt-spontaneously-combusted-from-amazement, ridiculous, near-impossible level.
... and we need to start yesterday.
Philhelm
10-10-2011, 11:36 AM
"This century must be an American century. In an American century, America has the strongest economy and the strongest military in the world," Romney says. "God did not create this country to be a nation of followers. America is not destined to be one of several equally balanced global powers. America must lead the world, or someone else will."
I agree with Romney on the sentence I've put in bold. Don't tread on me.
acptulsa
10-10-2011, 11:39 AM
I agree with Romney on the sentence I've put in bold. Don't tread on me.
I agree with it too. But is the way to lead to kick whatever ass you can find, or is the way to lead to walk down the right road and show how successful this can make you?
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