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Agorism
10-08-2011, 06:27 PM
UPDATE: Secret U.S. Memo Made Legal Case to Kill a Citizen...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/world/middleeast/secret-us-memo-made-legal-case-to-kill-a-citizen.html?_r=2&hp



WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s secret legal memorandum that opened the door to the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born radical Muslim cleric hiding in Yemen, found that it would be lawful only if it were not feasible to take him alive, according to people who have read the document.

The memo, written last year, followed months of extensive interagency deliberations and offers a glimpse into the legal debate that led to one of the most significant decisions made by President Obama — to move ahead with the killing of an American citizen without a trial.

The secret document provided the justification for acting despite an executive order banning assassinations, a federal law against murder, protections in the Bill of Rights and various strictures of the international laws of war, according to people familiar with the analysis. The memo, however, was narrowly drawn to the specifics of Mr. Awlaki’s case and did not establish a broad new legal doctrine to permit the targeted killing of any Americans believed to pose a terrorist threat.

The Obama administration has refused to acknowledge or discuss its role in the drone strike that killed Mr. Awlaki last month and that technically remains a covert operation. The government has also resisted growing calls that it provide a detailed public explanation of why officials deemed it lawful to kill an American citizen, setting a precedent that scholars, rights activists and others say has raised concerns about the rule of law and civil liberties.

But the document that laid out the administration’s justification — a roughly 50-page memorandum by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, completed around June 2010 — was described on the condition of anonymity by people who have read it.

The legal analysis, in essence, concluded that Mr. Awlaki could be legally killed, if it was not feasible to capture him, because intelligence agencies said he was taking part in the war between the United States and Al Qaeda and posed a significant threat to Americans, as well as because Yemeni authorities were unable or unwilling to stop him.

The memorandum, which was written more than a year before Mr. Awlaki was killed, does not independently analyze the quality of the evidence against him.

The administration did not respond to requests for comment on this article.

The deliberations to craft the memo included meetings in the White House Situation Room involving top lawyers for the Pentagon, State Department, National Security Council and intelligence agencies.

It was principally drafted by David Barron and Martin Lederman, who were both lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel at the time, and was signed by Mr. Barron. The office may have given oral approval for an attack on Mr. Awlaki before completing its detailed memorandum. Several news reports before June 2010 quoted anonymous counterterrorism officials as saying that Mr. Awlaki had been placed on a kill-or-capture list around the time of the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound airliner on Dec. 25, 2009. Mr. Awlaki was accused of helping to recruit the attacker for that operation.

Mr. Awlaki, who was born in New Mexico, was also accused of playing a role in a failed plot to bomb two cargo planes last year, part of a pattern of activities that counterterrorism officials have said showed that he had evolved from merely being a propagandist — in sermons justifying violence by Muslims against the United States — to playing an operational role in Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula’s continuing efforts to carry out terrorist attacks.

Other assertions about Mr. Awlaki included that he was a leader of the group, which had become a “cobelligerent” with Al Qaeda, and he was pushing it to focus on trying to attack the United States again. The lawyers were also told that capturing him alive among hostile armed allies might not be feasible if and when he were located.

Based on those premises, the Justice Department concluded that Mr. Awlaki was covered by the authorization to use military force against Al Qaeda that Congress enacted shortly after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 — meaning that he was a lawful target in the armed conflict unless some other legal prohibition trumped that authority.

It then considered possible obstacles and rejected each in turn.

Among them was an executive order that bans assassinations. That order, the lawyers found, blocked unlawful killings of political leaders outside of war, but not the killing of a lawful target in an armed conflict.

A federal statute that prohibits Americans from murdering other Americans abroad, the lawyers wrote, did not apply either, because it is not “murder” to kill a wartime enemy in compliance with the laws of war.

But that raised another pressing question: would it comply with the laws of war if the drone operator who fired the missile was a Central Intelligence Agency official, who, unlike a soldier, wore no uniform? The memorandum concluded that such a case would not be a war crime, although the operator might be in theoretical jeopardy of being prosecuted in a Yemeni court for violating Yemen’s domestic laws against murder, a highly unlikely possibility.

Then there was the Bill of Rights: the Fourth Amendment’s guarantee that a “person” cannot be seized by the government unreasonably, and the Fifth Amendment’s guarantee that the government may not deprive a person of life “without due process of law.”

The memo concluded that what was reasonable, and the process that was due, was different for Mr. Awlaki than for an ordinary criminal. It cited court cases allowing American citizens who had joined an enemy’s forces to be detained or prosecuted in a military court just like noncitizen enemies.

It also cited several other Supreme Court precedents, like a 2007 case involving a high-speed chase and a 1985 case involving the shooting of a fleeing suspect, finding that it was constitutional for the police to take actions that put a suspect in serious risk of death in order to curtail an imminent risk to innocent people.

The document’s authors argued that “imminent” risks could include those by an enemy leader who is in the business of attacking the United States whenever possible, even if he is not in the midst of launching an attack at the precise moment he is located.

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Aratus
10-08-2011, 06:32 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Aratus
10-08-2011, 06:34 PM
potus barack obama is a harvard grad.
in law there are very slippery slopes.
he's open'd the door for us all to now
contemplate his possible impeachment.

TonySutton
10-08-2011, 06:47 PM
redefining the word imminent...

affa
10-08-2011, 08:36 PM
"This idea of going and talking to attorneys baffles me. Why don't we just open up the Constitution and read it?" -- Ron Paul


Speaking directly to the article, what a load of hogwash, a total smokescreen, double speak, and general bullshit.

sparebulb
10-08-2011, 08:44 PM
We are going to see every gop candidate from Perry to Bachmann give BO glowing praise for killing Al-Awacky. And it will be sick.

phill4paul
10-08-2011, 11:10 PM
F*ckin' smiley glad hands.

Anti Federalist
10-08-2011, 11:14 PM
The memo concluded that what was reasonable, and the process that was due, was different for Mr. Awlaki than for an ordinary criminal. It cited court cases allowing American citizens who had joined an enemy’s forces to be detained or prosecuted in a military court just like noncitizen enemies.

It also cited several other Supreme Court precedents, like a 2007 case involving a high-speed chase and a 1985 case involving the shooting of a fleeing suspect, finding that it was constitutional for the police to take actions that put a suspect in serious risk of death in order to curtail an imminent risk to innocent people.

So he's "different" and we have to use war powers to "take him out" but the regime uses domestic police cases to back up their logic.

Fuck me that made my head hurt.

Anti Federalist
10-08-2011, 11:18 PM
It was principally drafted by David Barron and Martin Lederman, who were both lawyers in the Office of Legal Counsel at the time, and was signed by Mr. Barron. The office may have given oral approval for an attack on Mr. Awlaki before completing its detailed memorandum. Several news reports before June 2010 quoted anonymous counterterrorism officials as saying that Mr. Awlaki had been placed on a kill-or-capture list around the time of the attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound airliner on Dec. 25, 2009. Mr. Awlaki was accused of helping to recruit the attacker for that operation.

Just like bin Laden did not have the planning or operation capability to protect and move around and train the 9/11 hijackers within the US, nor to make NORAD stand down or hold drills that very morning, al-Awlaki did not have the power to have some, as yet unnamed, government agent get the "underwear bomber" on an inbound US plane, over the objections of the gate agents, without a passport, and personally escort him onto the plane.

TexAg09
10-08-2011, 11:26 PM
So he's "different" and we have to use war powers to "take him out" but the regime uses domestic police cases to back up their logic.

Fuck me that made my head hurt.
No joke!

TexAg09
10-08-2011, 11:27 PM
Just like bin Laden did not have the planning or operation capability to protect and move around and train the 9/11 hijackers within the US, nor to make NORAD stand down or hold drills that very morning, al-Awlaki did not have the power to have some, as yet unnamed, government agent get the "underwear bomber" on an inbound US plane, over the objections of the gate agents, without a passport, and personally escort him onto the plane.
Yeah that's the part that makes you think. Everyone knows about the 'Man in the Suit'.

specsaregood
10-08-2011, 11:30 PM
I just want to know if Hillary had a role in this decision making process. If not, well O' better watch his back cuz that is where the knife might go.

flightlesskiwi
10-09-2011, 12:01 AM
I just want to know if Hillary had a role in this decision making process. If not, well O' better watch his back cuz that is where the knife might go.

"the position is called the Secretary of Snake for a reason" --me.