Ron Paul WINS Values Voter Summit Straw Poll

[SchleckBros]

Ron Paul – 36.9% (732)
Herman Cain – 22.5% (447)
Rick Santorum – 16.3% (323)
Rick Perry – 8.4% (167)
Michele Bachmann – 7.9% (157)
Mitt Romney – 4.4% (88)
Newt Gingrich – 2.7% (54)
Undecided – 0.7% (13)
Jon Huntsman – 0.1% (2)

[Sola_Fide]

What? Is this accurate?

[rp08orbust]

Woooooohoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pauliticalfan]

By a pretty big margin too.

This is amazing! Very happy right now.

[samuel]

Source? Not that I don't believe it, but I'd like something to put on Facebook.

[bluesc]

Awesome result :)!

[Xelaetaks]

Fucking a. Awesome!!!!

[sailingaway]

Excellent. I hoped so when twitter said Cain had 2d. He was the only other one with a really responsive crowd, from reports.

[orenbus]

Thanks to you guys from the NY/NJ/PA area that went down to Washington at 4:00am this morning.

You guys did it. :)

[tribute_13]

The full results up yet?

[bluesc]

Source? Not that I don't believe it, but I'd like something to put on Facebook.

Was just announced on live stream.

[The Gold Standard]

I figured as much since they aren't even talking about the straw poll on Fox.

[Sola_Fide]

Wowowowow

[Agorism]

Winning!

Drudge it.

[orenbus]

Source? Not that I don't believe it, but I'd like something to put on Facebook.

I just watched the live stream where they made the announcement, this report is correct.

[sailingaway]

i figured as much since they aren't even talking about the straw poll on fox.

lol!

[CrissyNY]

Thanks to you guys from the NY/NJ/PA area that went down to Washington at 4:00am this morning.

You guys did it. :)

so true!

[kill the banks]

10-08-2011 3:05 PM ∞ t witter
Ron Paul Wins Values Voter Straw Poll
Ron Paul won the VVS presidential Straw Poll with 37% of the vote.

[rp08orbust]

From memory:

Paul 37%
Cain 23%
Frothy 16%
Perry 8%
Bachmann 8%
Romney 4%
Gingrich 2%
Huntsman 0%
UK/NA 1%

[kill the banks]

now for the silence media

[pauliticalfan]

Paul 37%
Cain 23%
Santorum 16%
Bachmann 8%
Perry 8%
Mitt 4%
Newt 3%
Huntsman 0%

[TER]

Drudge bombs away!!!

[garyallen59]

Whoo-hoo!!!!

[Esoteric]

at this point, I don't even care if this gets 0 coverage. We can sleep easy knowing that Cain didn't win. If he had, he would have likely took at 10-point lead over Romney, the way they're playing him up.

[justatrey]

YES!

Oh man I'm going all out promoting Black This Out later tonight. Time for a spontaneous donation too!


ROOOOOON PAAAAAUUULLLL!!!
:D

[Esoteric]

I can tell this will be a good set-up for "black this out"

[rp08orbust]

at this point, I don't even care if this gets 0 coverage. We can sleep easy knowing that Cain didn't win. If he had, he would have likely took at 10-point lead over Romney, the way they're playing him up.

Exactly.

[MelissaWV]

at this point, I don't even care if this gets 0 coverage. We can sleep easy knowing that Cain didn't win. If he had, he would have likely took at 10-point lead over Romney, the way they're playing him up.

This x1000000.

* * *

I would also like to point out that people were whining about helping folks get to VVS, that it was a lost cause, that it wouldn't matter, that we should throw all that money at BTO. As someone who is maxed out to the campaign, chipped in for VVS folks, and is pretty damned happy we won, I can only reply with a hearty "I TOLD YA SO."

I am pleasantly surprised at the win, and am grateful to all those people who gave up a weekend (and more) to go and vote.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Awesome news. Brace for the blackout blockade tightening.

They simply can't have mainstream Republicans preferring Ron Paul's system of values.

[InTradePro]

Winning!

Drudge it.


Drudge bombs away!!!

Drudge posts links to existing article but doesn't create the news. Find news articles first.

[pauliticalfan]

I can tell this will be a good set-up for "black this out"

Sad but true!

10.19.11

[rp08orbust]

Thank you to RonPaul101.com for working behind the scenes to persuade the campaign to pursue this straw poll!

[TexMac]

Thank you, thank you to everyone who went or supported those who did! You guys are the best!!

[cdc482]

Thanks to you guys from the NY/NJ/PA area that went down to Washington at 4:00am this morning.

You guys did it. :)

Thank you everyone!
You made today hopeful.

[Agorism]

I linked to drudge from twitter so he knows it's brewing. No write up yet.

[bluesc]

Drudge posts links to existing article but doesn't create the news. Find news articles first.

One word for you:

DEVELOPING..

I'm drudging the news and the top 3.

[anaconda]

Santorum must be pissed.

[sailingaway]

I'm looking for a good link to drudgebomb

[Steve-in-NY]

Breaking news... Ron Paul wins vvs poll. Major media outlets scramble to find other stories.

[Agorism]

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2011/10/paul.html

[slamhead]

Great job everyone. Kudos. I will write the headlines now. "Romney loses to Herman Cain in VVS Staw poll".

[VictorB]

Wooohooo!!! This is great! I hope we get some media coverage from it, but based on the past, we will not. However, it's great that Cain did not win cause as mentioned, he would have shot up to #1 in the polls.

[Sola_Fide]

Drudge this everybody.

[SchleckBros]

CNN announcing results right now

[justatrey]

On CNN now!

[Rothbardian Girl]

!!!!!!!!!!!

This is amazing news! Didn't we do terribly at VVS last time?? And Cain is pretty far behind! Great! I am so excited!

[Sola_Fide]

Great job everyone. Kudos. I will write the headlines now. "Romney loses to Herman Cain in VVS Staw poll".

LoL. So true.

[tribute_13]

Perry needs to hang it up. He's chilling with the third tier now.

[slamhead]

Great job everyone. Kudos. Wish I had put in a copywrite for the phrase. "Romeny loses to Hermain Cain in the VVS straw poll" as you know that will be the headlines.

[lucky_bg]

This is what we needed! RON PAUL IS CONSERVATIVE AND LIBERTARIAN!!!

Does anyone knows how many votes?

[sailingaway]

Great job everyone. Kudos. I will write the headlines now. "Romney loses to Herman Cain in VVS Staw poll".

Weigel is dismissing Ron's win and talkiing about SANTORUM. As if he hadn't organized to the best of his ability. He just didn't have enough support.

[rp08orbust]

!!!!!!!!!!!

This is amazing news! Didn't we do terribly at VVS last time?? And Cain is pretty far behind! Great! I am so excited!

Ron Paul did pretty well in 2007--15% IIRC.

[Merk]

..

[UtahApocalypse]

Love how CNN tries to spin having support as a negative. They basically said 'Ron Paul supporters always show up to these things'...... well when did it become bad to have ACTUAL supporters???

[Agorism]

I remember mommy blogger hyping this thing up months ago saying that CPAC was libertarians and that VVS should be the gold standard and Santorum was going to win it.

haha

[kill the banks]

Ron Paul wins and now let's get to the weather (fast)

[sailingaway]

Love how CNN tries to spin having support as a negative. They basically said 'Ron Paul supporters always show up to these things'...... well when did it become bad to have ACTUAL supporters???

We've already discovered they'll never give Ron any credit, but at least they can't give it to someone else. That was the problem in Florida, they immediately threw the 'straw polls don't mean anything' meme out the window when it wasn't Ron winning.

[pauliticalfan]

Yep, black this out, CNN...

[TXcarlosTX]

hard!

[tribute_13]

Toobs of CNN coverage please. I'd love to post it on facebook and point out the obvious spin.

[trey4sports]

YESS! Our media bump is coming.

/sarcasm

[Carole]

It was just on CNN, too. :D

[bluesc]

Love how CNN tries to spin having support as a negative. They basically said 'Ron Paul supporters always show up to these things'...... well when did it become bad to have ACTUAL supporters???

We expected it. Good footage for BTO. Compare the reaction to the reaction to Cain winning. This denies Cain that coverage again.

[misslauriss]

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/10/cain-wins-values-voter-summit-straw-poll-/1

[TexMac]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65482.html

[UtahApocalypse]

Per Facebook
Just as a note, this event had over 3,000 attendees. When the media decides to portray this victory as another Straw Poll that Ron Paul supporters specifically organized to win. Remember it took at least 1,000 real actual persons at the event to win. Don't let the media spin having support as a bad thing.

[ItsTime]

Anyone get him a BTO card?

Ha, I heard someone yell "BLACK THIS OUT" during his speech? Who was it?

[TER]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65482.html

horrible piece. waiting for a good one to send to drudge

[RDM]

It was just on CNN, too. :D

Yeah, and the reporter who was announcing it spoke in a somber, monotone voice when he mentioned Ron Paul's name and then his voice perked up when he mentioned Herman Cain's name and mentioned Santorum.

[Agorism]

The "Cain Train" crashes

http://www.3dkingdom.org/images/media/artgallery/resized/train-crashing-through-wa_7c6.jpg

[Paulatized]

And the door opens a little wider........

[InTradePro]

Slate

slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/08/ron_paul_wins_values_voter_straw_poll_cain_takes_s econd.html

[TER]

you know we are a force to be reckoned with when these straw poll wins are a defensive strategy for us! lol

[pacelli]

Congratulations Ron!

[Agorism]

We probably made a mistake by letting Cain win that Florida CPAC thing. That's how these random candidates catch fire.

[Teno]

Tomorrow's headline will read:

Conservatives Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum beat liberals Romney, Gingrich, Huntsman!

[specsaregood]

@EdMorrissey
Perkins: we did not allow campaigns to purchase blocks of tickets, tried to safeguard the straw poll process



@EdMorrissey

Asked about Paul's victory, Perkins points out again that 600people showed up today and many people left after Paul's speech


Perkins, would you like to have some cheese with your sour grapes?

[KingNothing]

you know we are a force to be reckoned with when these straw poll wins are a defensive strategy for us! lol

Yep. We can pretty much win any one of them that we decide to win. That's.... remarkable. Awesome stuff.

[MelissaWV]

We probably made a mistake by letting Cain win that Florida CPAC thing. That's how these random candidates catch fire.

There was not a feasible way around this.

Tickets to VVS = $10; open to anyone.

Tickets to Presidency 5 = Florida residents registered GOP by a certain deadline, chosen via lottery by their local GOP, $175 if you were selected, then expected to travel to Orlando to vote.

They are totally different things.

[RDM]

Tomorrow's headline will read:

Conservatives Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum beat liberals Romney, Gingrich, Huntsman!

No not that. This!!!

Paul Supporters Skew VVS Poll

[justatrey]

Tomorrow's headline will read:

Conservatives Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum beat liberals Romney, Gingrich, Huntsman!

So far, there was a piece on CNN, and an article on Politico. Both were clearly trying to minimize the importance of this victory.

Did you pledge at www.blackthisout.com yet? Please help spread the word if you aren't already. :)

[LisaNY]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65482.html

Good lord I hate Politico more everyday. Look what this jerk wrote in the article:


For summit participants who didn’t come in enamored of Paul, the results prompted a bit of eye-rolling.

“Those results probably aren’t accurate,” one voter joked after Paul’s victory was announced. “Cain wowed everybody. He’s good.”

[NickOdell]

Yeah, they can try to black out this success, but they wont be able to black out the moneybomb. lets get to work promoting that.

[Czolgosz]

Hell yeah! 'nuff said.

[InTradePro]

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/ron-paul-wins-2011-values-voter-straw-poll-herman-cain-takes-second-place/

[1stAmendguy]

Unbelievable, when Herman Cain wins Florida's straw poll it's breaking news on all the major networks. Ron Paul wins Califorina straw poll and VVS not even a metion on MSM.:mad:

[sailingaway]

So far this is the best article: http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/paul-wins-values-voter-straw-poll-20111008

[Paulatized]

Fox New Alert: They actually just announced it on Fox new.

[TexMac]

No not that. This!!!

Paul Supporters Skew VVS Poll

No, they don't call us supporters. They call us "fans" and "a cult."

[LibertyEagle]

Oh WOW, this is huge! :D

[Liberty74]

Love how CNN tries to spin having support as a negative. They basically said 'Ron Paul supporters always show up to these things'...... well when did it become bad to have ACTUAL supporters???

Everyone must remember that the media (88% of media donations went to Democrats in 2008) are part of the SYSTEM. They are scared to death of Ron Paul because he is the real deal.

[zHorns]

MSNBC, Fox News and CNN all have Mitt Romney articles as their headlines.

Nothing on the frontpage about Paul as of yet.

Furthermore, Peter Hamby who reported Ron Paul as the winner on CNN had this to say on Twitter (@PeterHambyCNN).


Ron Paul wins Values Voter Straw Poll. Room erupts in Ron Paul chants, quickly met by boos.

They can't just report the news without distorting this shit?

[justatrey]

Fox New Alert: They actually just announced it on Fox new.

I think I caught that. Right after the commercial the lady announced the result and quickly moved to the next topic.

[Ronulus]

"Paul Crackpots Ambush Straw Poll"

[misslauriss]

How many people voted?

[Carole]

^This

:D:D:D

[Ronulus]

They said over 3,000 on CNN.

[John F Kennedy III]

1. Ron Paul - 37%
2. Herman Cain - 23%
3. Rick Santorum - 16%
4. Rick Perry - 8%
4. Bachmann - 8%
6. Mitt Romney - 4%
7. Newt Gingrich - 3%

Haha. Black THAT out a**holes!

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/307998_288706934491432_100000563848054_1105663_191 8815004_n.jpg

[CaptainAmerica]

like uh bauce.

[Shane Harris]

these journalists must not have heard his speech. doesn't surprise me. how can any Christian listen to that speech and go into a booth and vote for war and death. not gonna happen. Ron Paul is waking up the Christianity in Christians. i think they are coming around to peace and non-intervention. it helps that obama is president but it doesn't help when all these other "conservative" politicians are promoting war propaganda and saber-rattling in the name of God.

[thomas-in-ky]

So far this is the best article: http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/paul-wins-values-voter-straw-poll-20111008

Thank you sailingaway. Face booked that article just now.

[Lord Xar]

shameful - Paul.West@Latimes.com reporter had an article on this today in the LA Times, no mention of Ron Paul - not even a word. Yet, he won it.

[messana]

Not sure how big of an impact this will make but it still made my day. :)

[Theocrat]

When Cain won the last straw poll down in Florida, it was covered by all of the major media outlets, especially FOX News. Since Ron Paul won this one, it should come as no surprise that the straw poll will be minimized. "Straw poll votes do not calculate into real votes," they will tell us. :rolleyes:

[TER]

Not sure how big of an impact this will make but it still made my day. :)

all of these wins make a difference.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Yeah jourNOlism of the scumbags @ POLITICO...

Ron come in a virtual tie for first at the Ames Iowa Straw poll and POLITCO blacks him out from the front page the first few days(after viewership peaks, then subsides, moved to secondary pages) in the headlines... then when Cain comes in a distant 2nd in the VVS poll it's part of the headline for sure.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/ValueVoter_Summit_Poll.png
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/Ron_Paul_DELETED_BY_POLITICO.png

[sailingaway]

Not sure how big of an impact this will make but it still made my day. :)

It makes a huge difference if someone else wins....

[zHorns]

No headlines on any of the three major news networks. This is ridiculous.

[NickOdell]

It makes a huge difference if someone else wins....

Exactly. We need to prevent anyone else from winning as many straw polls as possible.

[CrissyNY]

No headlines on any of the three major news networks. This is ridiculous.

I know. I keep refreshing... nothing.

[Theocrat]

Yeah jourNOlism of the scumbags @ POLITICO...

Ron come in a virtual tie for first at the Ames Iowa Straw poll and POLITCO blacks him out from the front page the first few days(after viewership peaks, then subsides, moved to secondary pages) in the headlines... then when Cain comes in a distant 2nd in the VVS poll it's part of the headline for sure.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/ValueVoter_Summit_Poll.png
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/Ron_Paul_DELETED_BY_POLITICO.png

Oh, don't you know, HOLLYWOOD? Ron Paul can't win, and that's why his name and victories are meaningless. It doesn't matter how much the general public desperately wants a candidate like Ron Paul to win (evidenced by his constant poll wins), the mainstream media wants the public to believe someone else can win. That's why they either ignore his successes, or they throw other names in to remind us there are other candidates noteworthy of support.

[Paulatized]

I'm so excited I can hardly stand it. The media's non-reporting can't dampen my spirits with this win. This is awesome. The door has opened a little wider, the force of freedom will soon come rushing through, no stopping it now. Let's get that speech out to ALL of Iowa!

[CaptainAmerica]

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/kappellmeister2003/ec99d0b7.jpg

[whippoorwill]

Get it!

[ross11988]

I know. I keep refreshing... nothing.

Its on CNN now. under Romney's picture of course.

[Paulatized]

It makes a huge difference if someone else wins....

No doubt about that!

[Lord Xar]

Most of the voter sheeple respond to the T.V. and to print media --- if they don't mention it there, I don't know if this will have much of an impact.

The media is in full collusion to BLack Out Ron Paul.

[MelissaWV]

Yeah it's such a blackout. I swear some of you need to learn some patience :(

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/08/ron-paul-wins-values-voter-straw-poll/


Washington (CNN) - GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul secured yet another straw poll victory Saturday.

The Texas congressman won 37% of the poll at the Values Voter Summit in Washington, sponsored by the Family Research Council, a social conservative group.

Paul has won a handful of straw polls this year, including contests held in California and South Carolina, in addition to a straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February.

Coming in second on Saturday, rising GOP candidate and Georgia businessman Herman Cain took 23% of the vote. Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum came in third with 16%.

Two front-runners, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, placed fourth and sixth, respectively. Perry garnered 8% of the vote, while Romney had 4%.

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, who touts herself as a strong social conservative and won the much-watched Ames Straw Poll in Iowa, came in fifth, while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich took seventh place.

[CrissyNY]

Its on CNN now. under Romney's picture of course.

Ok, I see it now... after squinting.

It's on msnbc too, under a huge pic of romney.

[specsaregood]

these journalists must not have heard his speech. doesn't surprise me. how can any Christian listen to that speech and go into a booth and vote for war and death. not gonna happen.

Your analysis is flawed; they may very well have heard his speech. And I don't think being anti-war and anti-death or even a value voter requires being a Christian.

[Lord Xar]

Yeah it's such a blackout. I swear some of you need to learn some patience :(


Some headlines on some internet blogs doesn't constitute fair and balanced reporting. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Oh, don't you know, HOLLYWOOD? Ron Paul can't win, and that's why his name and victories are meaningless. It doesn't matter how much the general public desperately wants a candidate like Ron Paul to win (evidenced by his constant poll wins), the mainstream media wants the public to believe someone else can win. That's why they either ignore his successes, or they throw other names in to remind us there are other candidates noteworthy of support.

What I did was TWITTER the RP VVS poll victory... I only promoted Googled linked Articles, which reflected complete positive reporting on Ron Paul... I excluded the subliminal marginalization BS games of POLITICO, ABCNEWS, WaPo, etc...

Also anyone who has tweeted the RP victory with a positive link I retweeted... ;)

I also added many #HASHTAGS for a wider audience


TIME TO BLACKOUT these corporate crony media venues... and that goes for social media plaers too. :)

[TruckinMike]

from the left...


http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/10/ron-paul-wins-values-voter-summit-straw-poll.php


Evan McMorris-Santoro October 8, 2011, 3:08 PM

Ron Paul’s base of supporters handed him a national straw poll win at the Values Voter Summit in Washington today.

Paul gave a long and faith-focused speech before a sizeable crowd here Saturday morning. A large number of his supporters wandered the halls during VVS, and gave him some serious love after his speech. And apparently some serious votes too.

Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, who were the focus of the coverage at VVS thanks to Perry’s controversial new endorser Robert Jeffress and a debate about Mormonism among some of the speakers gathered here, fared poorly in the poll.

Michelle Bachmann, who was the only candidate to directly stump for straw poll votes in her speech from the podium at VVS, also failed to impress with her vote totals.

Jon Huntsman, who didn’t show up here — and is not a social conservative favorite in any case — did the worst, earning a big fat 0% of the votes cast.

[sailingaway]

Most of the voter sheeple respond to the T.V. and to print media --- if they don't mention it there, I don't know if this will have much of an impact.

The media is in full collusion to BLack Out Ron Paul.

Values Voters care who won and will find out and that is the target audience.

[zHorns]

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd395/omyzach/areuserious.jpg

[justatrey]

CNN live report in three minutes!

[lucky_bg]

In 3 minutes on CNN live report from Washington.

[Theocrat]

What I did was TWITTER the RP VVS poll victory... I only promoted Googled linked Articles.reporting that reflected complete positive reporting... I excluded the subliminal marginalization games of POLITICO, ABCNEWS, etc...

Also anyone who has tweeted the RP victory with a positive link I retweeted... ;)

I also added many #HASHTAGS for a wider audience


TIME TO BLACKOUT these corporate crony media venues... and also on social media. :)

I like the way you think. :)

[messana]

At least they're attacking Perry.

[eduardo89]

Predictable bullshit article on politico


“Those results probably aren’t accurate,” one voter joked after Paul’s victory was announced. “Cain wowed everybody. He’s good.”

Santorum, the former Pennsylvania senator, raised an eyebrow over the straw poll in a Friday interview.

“It sounds like they have a record number of registrants, which means someone’s probably buying a lot of tickets,” he said.

[MelissaWV]

Are *YOU* serious?


http://i53.tinypic.com/2pzgwme.png

[neverseen]

link to live feed?

[sailingaway]

Predictable bullshit article on politico

and poor Rick couldn't get anyone to take that many tickets..... I know he bought them for Ames, I can't imagine he didn't here.

[BlackTerrel]

Nice! Well done!

[justatrey]

On CNN now - they're spinning it big time!

Talking about how Ron Paul got booed!

[messana]

CNN downplayed Ron.

[VictorB]

CNN guy just said Ron Paul win dilutes the straw poll. Wow...

[sailingaway]

On CNN now - they're spinning it big time!

Talking about how Ron Paul got booed!

Ron got booed at VALUES VOTER summit?

What Christian behavior!

[justatrey]

"They're looking past Ron Paul"

WTF!

BLACKTHISOUT.COM

[Paulatized]

So, we won the straw poll sponsored by the Family Research Council an undeniably, very socially conservative group. This is incredible. We really are catching on.

[CrissyNY]

did they play footage of the booing? was it bad?

[sailingaway]

I didn't see it, did Ron really get booed or are they talking about a couple of years ago at CPAC? I wouldn't think people would be so rude at Values Voter Summit.

[VictorB]

He said that after the winner was announced (Ron Paul), RP supporters started chanting "Ron Paul"....that is when some people started booing the RP guys, not Ron Paul himself.

How many boos? We don't know, but I'm sure there were hardly any.

[RDM]

On CNN now - they're spinning it big time!

Talking about how Ron Paul got booed!

Also said Ron Paul wins these straw polls so much, people don't pay attention to it when he wins one and do not take it seriously. He also said when Ron Paul buses in supporters to help his win, it just dilutes his importance and people just ignore the results.

[Shane Harris]

Your analysis is flawed; they may very well have heard his speech. And I don't think being anti-war and anti-death or even a value voter requires being a Christian.

dude whatever you have to have known what I meant. It was a very christian-targeted audience and christian-targeted speech. the majority of republicans and neocons and social cons are christian. the vvs poll is a social conservative audience. peace is a christian message so it ought to resound with them at least with their conscience at some level, if they really are christians. of course a lot still did and maybe we only won cause we bused in a lot of ron paul supporters who couldnt give two shits about christianity. is that what youre implying? that ron couldnt possibly have changed anyone's mind with his speech.

[afwjam]

Fox news was busy looking for things more meaningful then this straw poll. The blackout continues.

[WD-NY]

the anchor from FOX "ok, enough about another straw poll, on to something we SHOULD BE paying attention too.... the New Hampshire primary"

lol -

[kill the banks]

Fox ... we hacked it :eek:

[rp08orbust]

I didn't see it, did Ron really get booed or are they talking about a couple of years ago at CPAC? I wouldn't think people would be so rude at Values Voter Summit.

I heard no boos whatsoever. There was a bit a murmuring behind the cheers, but no boos.

[SchleckBros]

did they play footage of the booing? was it bad?

I watched it live and I didn't really hear any booing.

[bluesc]

He did get booed when they announced him winning and people starting chanting "RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL!". Hardly though. A very small group did.

[zHorns]

Are *YOU* serious?

You forgot to include the feed from Peter they had on their before saying


Ron Paul wins Values Voter Straw Poll. Room erupts in Ron Paul chants, quickly met by boos.

So get over it, they are blacking it out. Remember P5?

They couldn't get over it and now that Paul wins they are saying he wins all the time and it doesn't really matter.

[Paulatized]

Doug McKolway on Fox News: "Ron Paul "tried" to tie his libertarianism to the teachings of Jesus Christ."

[qwerty]

Maybe promoting BTO even for a minute now ?

[MelissaWV]

You forgot to include the feed from Peter they had on their before saying



So get over it, they are blacking it out. Remember P5? They couldn't get over it and now that Paul wins they are saying he wins all the time and it doesn't really matter.

How is that Twitter feed incorrect?

How is he being blacked out if he's being mentioned? Good God, people. Definitions don't change just because you want to pout.

I've never seen such a bunch of whining children when WE WON.

[sailingaway]

Ron Paul was a paleoconservative before the Libertarian party even existed.

[pauliticalfan]

CNN RIGHT NOW:

"We're looking down the list, past Ron Paul."

"Rick Santorum gave a strong speech."

Nothing about Ron's.

Unreal.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/815/btosp.jpg

[VictorB]

BREAKING NEWS: I'm donating even more money to BTO because of this media BS with VVS.

[MelissaWV]

I don't really think that's a good poster... anyone glancing at that and unfamiliar with today's events might think Cain won.

[Shane Harris]

if straw polls are meaningless they should stop having them. everyone buses ppl in. but i have to admit when we infiltrate places and you see the videos and the out of control interrupting and screaming and obnoxious behavior, it turns me off. and it definitely turns a lot of people off. clap hard. cheer at cheering points, but if you care about being a good ambassador to the liberty movement or the campaign, be respectful and not so obnoxious. cue everyone calling me a troll for trying to control people or whatever. its just my opinion. you can be the most enthusiastic supporters without being obnoxious or interrupting or acting immature. everyone knows what i mean. everyones seen the interview or the debate or the speech where a few ppl wont shut up and are distracting and immature and make people want to boo you.

[neverseen]

I don't really think that's a good poster... anyone glancing at that and unfamiliar with today's events might think Cain won.

agree. Maybe black it out so that it looks like there is a persons name behind it. ie. black out the "ON" in Ron and the "AUL" in paul and then black out the 39 and leave the %.

something like that...

[zHorns]

How is that Twitter feed incorrect?

How is he being blacked out if he's being mentioned? Good God, people. Definitions don't change just because you want to pout.

I've never seen such a bunch of whining children when WE WON.

If your entire plan is to pick out post and attack individuals, then you should go waste your time doing something else. Yes we won, and yes that will stop them from talking endless about how some other candidate won, but CNN reported on the results twice and both times said that it doesn't really matter, he always wins, he bused them in and that he was booed when he won.

Sorry, but that's not fair reporting.

Fact is that they aren't giving it the breaking news coverage they give to other candidates. If Romney or Cain won, they would have teams of Political commentators talking about how it all makes sense and it would be talked about for weeks to come.

Do you need any more proof than this?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1725/20111008161534.png

[NickOdell]

Let all do something about this. Promote the Black This Out moneybomb.

Post it on Ron Paul Facebook Fan pages, groups, youtube videos, news articles.

We need to get everyone involved and fighting against the media bias, or the media bias will do us in.

Get out there and make a difference.

[InTradePro]

I don't really think that's a good poster... anyone glancing at that and unfamiliar with today's events might think Cain won.

Agreed.

[WD-NY]

UM... Srsly?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1725/20111008161534.png

http://nation.foxnews.com/ron-paul/2011/10/08/paul-and-cain-win-values-voter-straw-poll

[rp08orbust]

The poster can be easily fixed by simply putting numbers in front of the names.

[rp08orbust]

UM... Srsly?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1725/20111008161534.png

Absolutely unreal.

[Keith and stuff]

Thanks to you guys from the NY/NJ/PA area that went down to Washington at 4:00am this morning.

You guys did it. :)

I know a guy on this board from NH/MA that went down there too ;)

[specsaregood]

dude whatever you have to have known what I meant. It was a very christian-targeted audience and christian-targeted speech. the majority of republicans and neocons and social cons are christian. the vvs poll is a social conservative audience. peace is a christian message so it ought to resound with them at least with their conscience at some level, if they really are christians. of course a lot still did and maybe we only won cause we bused in a lot of ron paul supporters who couldnt give two shits about christianity. is that what youre implying? that ron couldnt possibly have changed anyone's mind with his speech.

You just have misunderstood me, perhaps I was too subtle. Your comment was on the journalists, not the audience.
You said:

these journalists must not have heard his speech. doesn't surprise me. how can any Christian listen to that speech and go into a booth and vote for war and death. not gonna happen.
I'm not convinced the journalists are actually christians, value voters or even human.

Friends now?

[sailingaway]

UM... Srsly?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1725/20111008161534.png

http://nation.foxnews.com/ron-paul/2011/10/08/paul-and-cain-win-values-voter-straw-poll

lol!

[justatrey]

Let all do something about this. Promote the Black This Out moneybomb.

Post it on Ron Paul Facebook Fan pages, groups, youtube videos, news articles.

We need to get everyone involved and fighting against the media bias, or the media bias will do us in.

Get out there and make a difference.

+1

It's time to get angry! Anger can be a good emotion. Every time they do this to us, get angry, and then turn that anger into action and teach the bastards about blowback.

[UtahApocalypse]

UM... Srsly?

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1725/20111008161534.png

http://nation.foxnews.com/ron-paul/2011/10/08/paul-and-cain-win-values-voter-straw-poll


a Difference of 14% is now a tie.

[zHorns]

+1

It's time to get angry! Anger can be a good emotion. Every time they do this to us, get angry, and then turn that anger into action and teach the bastards about blowback.

Nah, we aren't angry, just a bunch of whining children - according to MelissaWV.


I've never seen such a bunch of whining children when WE WON.

[pauliticalfan]

a Difference of 14% is now a tie.

...and a tie means "Bachmann first, Pawlenty third."

[iamse7en]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/815/btosp.jpg

Haha. Nice.

[NickOdell]

+1

It's time to get angry! Anger can be a good emotion. Every time they do this to us, get angry, and then turn that anger into action and teach the bastards about blowback.


Nah, we aren't angry, just a bunch of whining children - according to MelissaWV.

We are angry! Get out there and promote! I have posted on tons of Facebook pages and direct messaged tons of people able this. If everyone does this we can reach thousands of people, because more people will get involved promoting! Dont just talk about things on the forum, get out there and make a difference :)

[freejack]

a Difference of 14% is now a tie.

Does that mean Paul is tied for first in the national polls also?

[KramerDSP]

It's W - A - R !!!!

I am P I S S E D off!!!

B L A C K T H I S O U T , Y O U S U N N U V A B I O T C H E S !!!!!

[zHorns]

Does that mean Paul is tied for first in the national polls also?

^ This

[ZanZibar]

at this point, I don't even care if this gets 0 coverage. We can sleep easy knowing that Cain didn't win. If he had, he would have likely took at 10-point lead over Romney, the way they're playing him up.Exactly. Better for them to downplay our win than to show the spotlight on someone else.

[bluesc]

Great, so we can add the fox news front page to the list. All 3 major networks have on their front page a big picture of Romney and an article about his damn faith as the headline, with Ron's VVS win under it in small writing.

[MJU1983]

BREAKING NEWS: I'm donating even more money to BTO because of this media BS with VVS.

That's what I like to hear! +rep

[D.A.S.]

The win at VVS is amazing news! Looks like Romney, Perry, and Bachmann were embarrassed badly in this one, and Rick Santorum can now remain in the debates. lol.

I bet the local newspapers in Iowa and NH will pick this up - maybe tomorrow, in time for Sunday paper. Let's hope so anyway.

[ItsTime]

Time to go out and promote BTO. They are giving us perfect fuel to do so!

[bluesc]

Time to go out and promote BTO. They are giving us perfect fuel to do so!

This. I hope everyone is screen capping and tubing the evidence.

[eduardo89]

http://www.callofliberty.com/ron-paul-wins-value-voters-summit-straw-poll/


Ron Paul won the Value Voters Summit straw poll in Washington, DC on Saturday, taking in 37% of the vote and beating out second place Herman Cain who finished with 23%.

Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann both had extremely dissapointing showings, tying for fourth place with only 8% of ballots cast each. At the bottom of the pack were Mitt Romney with 4%, Newt Gingrich with 3% and Jon Huntsman not receiving a single vote.

What’s astonishing is that the so-called conservative darlings of this race, Perry and Bachmann, didn’t ....http://www.callofliberty.com/ron-paul-wins-value-voters-summit-straw-poll/

http://i.imgur.com/HKiV3.png (http://www.callofliberty.com/ron-paul-wins-value-voters-summit-straw-poll/)

[Shane Harris]

You just have misunderstood me, perhaps I was too subtle. Your comment was on the journalists, not the audience.
You said:

I'm not convinced the journalists are actually christians, value voters or even human.

Friends now?

okay friends :) my bad, but you may have misunderstood me as well. I was saying that the news stories keep saying that ron is not liked by social cons and that his views are not widely held by conservatives, and that these journalists must not have heard his speech since it was so clearly aimed towards them and went over very well, and he constantly cited the bible and morality. but youre right, i understand your point

[ItsTime]

This. I hope everyone is screen capping and tubing the evidence.

My wife found one or two more clearly biased ones. They have huge pictures of Cain. I will get those up in a minute.

[Roy Bleckert]

1. Ron Paul - 37%
2. Herman Cain - 23%
3. Rick Santorum - 16%
4. Rick Perry - 8%
4. Bachmann - 8%
6. Mitt Romney - 4%
7. Newt Gingrich - 3%

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lx43]

Win Cain, Santorum, Gingrich wins a poll its breaking news, when Ron Paul wins a poll its not even a news event. The news media is pathetic.

[Steve-in-NY]

Just do whatever you can to get people signed up, registered and motivated to vote in the republican primaries.
THAT, and that alone will be the ultimate winner of the "what matters" contest.

[ItsTime]

Sorry my bad it was Romney not Cain.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2njikbq.jpg

[flightlesskiwi]

wonderful news!!!!

to all those who participated... a big thank you for your hard work!!

[raider4paul]

They mentioned it on Fox News and then started talking about how high Herman Cain is moving.

[slamhead]

They mentioned it on Fox News and then started talking about how high Herman Cain is moving.

I am watching it now shaking my head. Ron Paul wins and they are talking about how Hermain Cain is surging. Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!

[sailingaway]

Cain surged because media wanted to take his straw poll seriously. He was way down in the polls before that. But they don't want to take Ron's straw polls seriously. It is as simple as that. We just have to work around it as best we can.

[ItsTime]

FYI BTO facebook page is blowing up right now.

[Paulatized]

In a post-vote press conference, FRC President Tony Perkins made sure to note that 600 people had bought tickets for Saturday only -- a none-too-subtle hint that Paul's supporters had over-represented themselves.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel.html

There ya'll go "over-representing" yourselves again. :rolleyes:

[wgadget]

WOW! I can't wait to see Ron Paul on all of the Sunday talk shows!




Oh, wait.

[wgadget]

In a post-vote press conference, FRC President Tony Perkins made sure to note that 600 people had bought tickets for Saturday only -- a none-too-subtle hint that Paul's supporters had over-represented themselves.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel.html

There ya'll go "over-representing" yourselves again. :rolleyes:

UH, TONY...Maybe some people WORK on Fridays? Or MAYBE...Some people wouldn't pay ten bucks to hear Michelle Bachman?

[AdamT]

The Establishment, who controls the Media, hates Ron Paul more that you can imagine. They hate what he stands for, and are scared to death Ron Paul's ideas might catch on with everyday mainstream Americans. They will do everything they can to hide Ron and hide his ideas. They don't want people to know a candidate like Ron exists, period. They are even more scared he might actually beat their approved candidates, in turn making the Media less credible in the eyes of the average Joe, since they have been pushing anyone but Ron.

So it's no shock virtually all MSM coverage will downplay, skew or spin Ron's win, and any other wins, into some "non-event". If Cain or any of their darling Establishment hack candidates had won, it would be front page news everywhere....because they are approved and won't rattle the status-quo.

To give Ron huge headlines with his win(s) would make people think he's legitimate and top tier (which of course he is....shhhhh).

So this is no surprise, this is their MO. They've been doing this for years now.

BLACK THIS OUT!

[FreeMind&Market]

Cain wins on freaking straw poll and he's deemed a "front runner" by the media elite, even when he is lagging in the polls. The only way I can think to counter-act this behavior is making sure all my contacts know about the blatant media manipulation. Need a good video.

"Tune-out the Media; Tune into Ron Paul"

[misslauriss]

Disregard neocons, acquire Straw Poll wins.

[FreeMind&Market]

Isn't there some email discussion list or forum that journalists use to discuss stories? I remember some be stink about it a couple years ago. If someone can figure-out how to access the list, it would be interesting see read what comments they make about the candidates and even try to seed the discussion.

[oboym]

this guy here is right on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQow0Fhua1A

[sailingaway]

Isn't there some email discussion list or forum that journalists use to discuss stories? I remember some be stink about it a couple years ago. If someone can figure-out how to access the list, it would be interesting see read what comments they make about the candidates and even try to seed the discussion.

you are thinking of Journo-List it was disbanded but a new one was started. It sure is uniform in meme, isn't it?

[NickOdell]

We need to channel our momentum from winning this straw poll directly into the Black THIS Out moneybomb. Is there something a mod could bump onto the front apge to help with this?

[raider4paul]

Oh hey he's being talked about on CNN.

About how he didn't really win it and how these polls don't really matter.

Losers.

[FreeMind&Market]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList. Yes, it was shut-down but a new one was created, per the wikipedia article

[TheTexan]

The media can ignore this and continue to inflate its Lies Bubble.

But a market correction is coming and that bubble will burst. :)

[Standing Liberty]

Just watched a clip on Faux News. They are trying to blame "young" people for the RP win. It's funny when someone like Cain wins a poll, they never have excusses.

[pauliticalfan]

More attention to this media-fabricated religion issue than Ron's victory. The media's agenda is sickening.

[raider4paul]

TheRealDeb Debra Whitworth
The only logical running mate 4 Ron Paul wld b Jeff Dunham's Walter. They have similar looks & fussiness.


Saw this on Twitter though and thought it was pretty funny :p

[Tina]

Deep-Fried ‘Democracy’ In The USA

I’ve noticed (it wasn’t hard) that, just like 4 years ago when he ran for the GOP nomination (and FOX News famously did not invite him to a GOP debate featuring all other presidential candidates), Ron Paul is once again being flagrantly ignored by the mainstream media for the 2012 nomination.

While John Stewart’s Daily Show simply serves to make serious matters ‘funny’, his summation of the situation is spot on (even if it’s all ‘just for laughs’).

This is how ‘democracy’ works in the USA. The mainstream media acts as the fifth branch of government (the first four being, executive, legislative, justice and corporate). In other allegedly ‘democratic’ countries, the existence of all applicants for the stewardship of the nation (even if they are picked to run to lose) is at least recognised. Not so in the grand ‘ol US of A. There, a candidate can have the support of the majority of the population and be deliberately sidelined by the media.

In a country where almost no one knows anything about anything unless it comes from the unashamedly partisan ‘impartial’ media, the result is that, when the people’s choice disappears off the radar and some war-mongering reactionary psychopath ‘wins’, everyone thinks that they were the only ones who didn’t like him.

The question of course is, who decides who gets promoted and who gets panned? Given their monopoly on the dissemination of information to the public, it’s obvious that the handful of corporate media moguls that control the entire industry (in the USA and worldwide) are in on it. But it’s hard to imagine that ‘the media’ alone could wield such power without the help of some shadowy ‘shadow government’-type organisation. Then again, they could well be one and the same.

But how then do we account for the tarted-up media grunts (aka ‘anchors’) cheerily censoring Ron Paul? How do they justify it to themselves? Are they also part of the plot? Or do they simply follow orders because they are well aware that an animated mannequin could easily replace them and no one would know the difference?

While the answer may well be ‘all of the above’, I think there’s an additional element that has contributed much to the creation of the type of sick and crumbling ‘democracy’ we see in the USA today, and that element is perfectly portrayed, albeit subtly and quite coincidentally, in a recent media (non)-report on Ron Paul’s campaign.

See if you can spot it:
http://joequinn.net/2011/08/17/deep-fried-democracy-in-the-usa/

[MelissaWV]

Nah, we aren't angry, just a bunch of whining children - according to MelissaWV.

I didn't name names. Did the shoe fit?

Doing something is not whining. Sitting around boo-hooing because some blogs and headlines aren't precisely what you want, though...

[RIPLEYMOM]

Front and center on The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/). Don't know if I'm late to this.

[TNforPaul45]

Isn't there some email discussion list or forum that journalists use to discuss stories? I remember some be stink about it a couple years ago. If someone can figure-out how to access the list, it would be interesting see read what comments they make about the candidates and even try to seed the discussion.

FreeMind i have been thinking exactly the same thing.

[rawful]

MSM: VVS doesn't mean anything since Romney and Perry tanked. Except for Cain getting 2nd, that's important.

[AdamT]

Nothing on Drudge yet. Weird.

[bluesc]

Nothing on Drudge yet. Weird.

Have you not seen the crazy Cain coverage going on there yet? I'm not surprised.

[heavenlyboy34]

W00t!!!!!

[MelissaWV]

However, not all of those who voted for Paul in the straw poll were necessarily participants in the summit. Family Research Council president Tony Perkins said 600 attendees registered just for Saturday. Paul ended up winning with 732 votes.


Interesting. Now CNN is going with the same line, adding it to the article I posted earlier. It was amended at around 5:30pm.

Media spins; that's not exactly new to us. Considering some of the speakers at VVS, and some of the subject matter, this could be spun far worse. I'm happy with the win, and neither pleased or displeased with the coverage. It is what it is. On to the next thing, please.

[DinahWest]

All this flippant nonsense from the media calls to mind a Bible Passage:

1 Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise;
and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;


To these people Ron Paul's stances are foolish and weak. Yet, Ron is standing on the truth.
A truth that the powers that be can't handle or understand. And it also shows what they
believe of their viewers(treating them like mindless lemmings that will do as they say).

Ron Paul and his message are a threat to the kind of power and control both Democrat and
Republican elite want. They know Ron Paul cannot be controlled like the others. They cannot
have this message spreading otherwise it threatens not just their power know but future
power thery hope to groom once their time nears its end.

[sailingaway]

They sell a one day ticket because Saturday is a big day. CPAC does the same thing. I don't remember them using that against people, before....

[parocks]

Ron Paul was a paleoconservative before the Libertarian party even existed.

Or a true conservative, a traditional conservative, a Taft Conservative.

[heavenlyboy34]

Ridiculous spin on this story here-hxxp://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/ron-paul-wins-values-voter-straw-poll/246400/

[acptulsa]

So, if you can't afford to take off work on Friday you're not a 'real participant'? Does that mean you have to be independently wealthy to be religious, or that you have to be independently wealthy to have an opinion that counts?

[MelissaWV]

They sell a one day ticket because Saturday is a big day. CPAC does the same thing. I don't remember them using that against people, before....

No kidding. A one day ticket would be all I could have done, had I gone. I would likely have arrived late Friday night, after having to drive from work to the airport and catch a flight, then get a rental car or a shuttle, then check in to a hotel room. I would have then had to wake up really early the next day to go in, register, watch Ron speak, and finally vote. I don't think a whole lot of people were in a dissimilar situation. Whether it was work, family, or school, people often have obligations that keep them from being able to show up to these things at the drop of a hat.

Not everyone can afford lodging in the DC area for an extra night or two, or to miss work, or to leave their kids with family or babysitters. I thought having "values" would mean that you put those things above being at a political event for an extra day?

[specsaregood]

They sell a one day ticket because Saturday is a big day. CPAC does the same thing. I don't remember them using that against people, before....

It is worse than that. They were using the #'s to brag about how big the event is getting, more participants than ever before including the 1 day pass.
Then in the next breath bagging on a great many of those new participants.

[ItsTime]

It is going to look bad the following years when their numbers plummet.

[Carole]

abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/ron-paul-wins-2011-values-voter-straw-poll-herman-cain-takes-second-place/

And here:
Ron Paul: Wars Are Biggest Threat to Families

h xxp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/ron-paul-wars-are-biggest-threat-to-families/

And one of the comments below article: :D

The lines were extremely long, and all I could find were Ron Paul supporters… The lines were so long for Dr. Paul that I couldn’t even fit into the room where he gave his speech. People driving cars past the hotel were screaming “RON PAUL!!” when passing by. It was awesome! I had the chance to shake his hand and have my picture taken with him during the meet and greet!

Posted by: Chris October 8, 2011, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

[WD-NY]

FYI BTO facebook page is blowing up right now.

Hey man, can you update the facebook page so that the link to www.blackthisout.com = ABOVE THE FOLD.

[ItsTime]

Hey man, can you update the facebook page so that the link to www.blackthisout.com = ABOVE THE FOLD.

It is?

[pauliticalfan]

The worst one yet.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2153/cbsn.jpg

Also an accusation that is highly offensive and absolutely false.

[JoshS]

lol yeah blame the people for just wanting to hear the fiscally sane peace candidate.

[WD-NY]

It is?

there it is ::high fives:: :)

[Sola_Fide]

The worst one yet.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2153/cbsn.jpg

Also an accusation that is highly offensive and absolutely false.

Hmmm. Well it might not have hurt our image to stick around and listen to Cain or Santorum. When I am trying to convert people to Ron, I always try to point out what I like about the other candidates too (there's not much, but it makes me seem less biased).

[MelissaWV]

Hmmm. Well it might not have hurt our image to stick around and listen to Cain or Santorum. When I am trying to convert people to Ron, I always try to point out what I like about the other candidates too (there's not much, but it makes me seem less biased).

Those candidates spoke the day before, when a lot of our supporters were at school, at work, or with families.

[undergroundrr]

Those candidates spoke the day before, when a lot of our supporters were at school, at work, or with families.

Careful. The next media headline will be "Ron Paul Games Straw Poll Through Advantageous Speech Scheduling".

[TheTexan]

When people show up because they want to vote for Ron Paul it's cheating.

When any other candidates buses people in for the sole intention of getting them to vote for them, its standard operating procedure.

[cavalier973]

I can't find it, but yesterday on his radio program, Bryan Fischer of American Family Radio was talking about Ron Paul supporters winning straw polls, which he said they did by "crowding" the event. He said he didn't blame them for doing so, but that the administrators changed the rules for voting (people were required to register to vote, or something) to keep Ron Paul from doing so well.

It didn't work, I guess.

[JoshS]

i'm getting very suspicious of national polls when ron seems to win almost every straw poll but can be as low as '8%'

[cavalier973]

The "scientific" polls can weed out results that the pollsters think don't match with what they think the "real" situation is.

[G-Wohl]

Or a true conservative, a traditional conservative, a Taft Conservative.

Nope. He's definitely a paleoconservative.

[matt0611]

So...can we expect a huge media blitz for the next week of the media promoting Ron Paul as the new front runner now?

I won't hold my breath... :p

[georgiaboy]

these journalists must not have heard his speech. doesn't surprise me. how can any Christian listen to that speech and go into a booth and vote for war and death. not gonna happen. Ron Paul is waking up the Christianity in Christians. i think they are coming around to peace and non-intervention. it helps that obama is president but it doesn't help when all these other "conservative" politicians are promoting war propaganda and saber-rattling in the name of God.

prayers being answered every day!

+rep

[Carole]

So far this is the best article: http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012-presidential-campaign/paul-wins-values-voter-straw-poll-20111008

And of course this:

[QUOTE]Paul has a history of scoring surprising straw poll wins by packing the electorate with his diehard supporters. QUOTE]

I think that is traditionally how to get votes. Motivate your supporters to pack the rooms and vote. :D

[HeyArchie]

So baffled... how does having strong support become a penalization to you in a POLL? What a joke.

[Carole]

How many people voted?

Ron Paul – 36.9% (732)
Herman Cain – 22.5% (447)
Rick Santorum – 16.3% (323)
Rick Perry – 8.4% (167)
Michele Bachmann – 7.9% (157)
Mitt Romney – 4.4% (88)
Newt Gingrich – 2.7% (54)
Undecided – 0.7% (13)
Jon Huntsman – 0.1% (2)

[wgadget]

[QUOTE]Paul has a history of scoring surprising straw poll wins by packing the electorate with his diehard supporters. QUOTE]


And the MEDIA has a history of MARGINALIZING ANY AND ALL Ron Paul straw polls wins with their shoddy news reporting.