Ron Paul to be Discussed Tonight on O'Reilly w/ Stossel

[HeyArchie]

The promo said "Is Ron Paul harming the Libertarian message" or something along those lines. I'll keep people updated. I know a lot of you don't have TVs.


Better yet, a high quality stream :)

http://www.justin.tv/pepperman2

[bluesc]

Better yet, a high quality stream :)

http://www.justin.tv/pepperman2

[Esoteric]

The promo said "Is Ron Paul harming the Libertarian message" or something along those lines. I'll keep people updated. I know a lot of you don't have TVs.

Wow, now they're trying to say he's not good enough for the libertarians?

[HeyArchie]

bluesc, you are just on top of it lol.

[JamesButabi]

Wow, now they're trying to say he's not good enough for the libertarians?

As long as people will buy it. They will flaunt it haha

[specsaregood]

Wow, now they're trying to say he's not good enough for the libertarians?

well hannity and beck are both libertarians they've claimed. :)

[DinahWest]

Somebody doth protest too much.

IMO, BO is miffed that RP will no longer entertain his bs and that RP's base and appeal continue growing!

[Jingles]

Ugh, I like Stossel, but I don't. He's a good guy, but he really isn't the best at defending libertarianism in discussions. Why doesn't he ask the Judge or something...? Stossel is the Reason/Cato variety of libertarian. I think that's what irks me about him.

[Koz]

I still cannot bring myself to watch oreilly

[Koz]

Ugh, I like Stossel, but I don't. He's a good guy, but he really isn't the best at defending libertarianism in discussions. Why doesn't he ask the Judge or something...? Stossel is the Reason/Cato variety of libertarian. I think that's what irks me about him.

Stossel is still way better than 98% of anything else on television.

[bluesc]

Stossel is still way better than 98% of anything else on television.

Absolutely agreed, but he is weak when with O'Reilly. O'Reilly will make something up or speculate, and Stossel will either agree or give up. I can't say I'd do much better with such a huge tool, but The Judge would absolutely destroy any argument O'Reilly makes. I guess that's why they chose not to have him on the show.

Watch Jon Stewart with O'Reilly to see how to really handle him.

[leffewture]

Bill O'Reilly disgusts me

[JamesButabi]

Already spun in the into......Ron Paul calling for the impeachment of Obama of killing Al Quaeda member :rolleyes:

[jax]

oreilly is such a joke. wont even let his own guests talk.

[Travlyr]

I still cannot bring myself to watch oreilly

Oh... it's painful. I just spent 3 or 4 minutes and delete. No Spin Zone. lolz. Either he doesn't know that Ron Paul is running for president, or he is spinning the information. I know he knows. Bill O'Reilly is doing this in front of the entire world. How sad is that?

[Spanky]

The people in the chat can not be changed ha. They all like O'Reilly

[HeyArchie]

Talking about him now.

[brandon]

Turned it on...heard BillO cut off stossel, turned it off.

[HeyArchie]

Bill suggests we send Ron to Iran.

[spudea]

that was terrible, why did I watch that...

[Paulistinian]

O'Reilly is an idiot. Ugh. I can't believe anyone takes that guy seriously.
edit-
i cant believe i sat through his whole Stossel "interview".

[KramerDSP]

O'Reilly started flailing, saying Iran might want to nuke Ireland, etc. etc. Stossell finally won one of their debates body language wise.

[afwjam]

Stossel did good, great ally.

[GeorgiaAvenger]

This is from previous times discussion Paul. John does a good job.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTIzB61juhA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rN298NCQhM

[Jtorsella]

"Ron Paul should be sent to Iran so that they will collapse sooner."
~Bill o'Reilly
The words of a true statesman.
/Sarcasm

[bluesc]

Barely even mentioned that HE WAS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. That is the issue, O'Reilly.

Ugh. Stossel did what he could with that tool.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

That was the biggest mess of nonsense I've ever heard from O'Reilly. :mad: Not only did he misrepresent Dr. Paul's positions, he fell back on insults and lame jokes when he got owned. Even Stossel, who really doesn't challenge O'Reilly very strongly, made him look like a fool.

[r3volution]

that was terrible, why did I watch that...

every1 that watched should be asking themselves this .o'whylly

[Carehn]

The promo said "Is Ron Paul harming the Libertarian message" or something along those lines. I'll keep people updated. I know a lot of you don't have TVs.

How did you know I don't have a TV?

[HeyArchie]

How did you know I don't have a TV?
;)

[V3n]

Michael Scheuer on Iran (http://security.nationaljournal.com/2010/02/what-should-obama-do-next-on-i.php#1412338)


On Iran, President Obama should:

1.) Explain to the American people that Iran is no threat to the United States unless we or Israel attack it first, and then it would be a serious threat to U.S. access to energy and would likely stage terrorist operations in the continental United States. [The last thanks to 30-years of federal immigration policies that leave us without knowledge of who is in the country or what they are capable of doing.]

I'll take Michael Scheuer's word on the subject over Bill's every time.

[Tinnuhana]

Can't send Ron to Iran becuase he won't take gov't funded "junkets." Now, if someprivate group in Iran wants to fund a trip for him to go over and visit, he might go, like when he and Carol went to Croatia (?). ORRRR Bill O can buy Ron a round trip ticket.

[banks11]

Stossel didn't argue that while sadly, dam.And Bill took ever chance to undermine Stossel, Ron, Liberty at every turn possible.

[sailingaway]

Can't send Ron to Iran becuase he won't take gov't funded "junkets." Now, if someprivate group in Iran wants to fund a trip for him to go over and visit, he might go, like when he and Carol went to Croatia (?). ORRRR Bill O can buy Ron a round trip ticket.

Ron was stationed in the middle east when he was in the air force. Where was O'Rielly stationed......? :D

[sailingaway]

Stossel didn't argue that while sadly, dam.And Bill took ever chance to undermine Stossel, Ron, Liberty at every turn possible.

Since Stossel joined Fox, I've concluded he is timid of bucking the administration views.

In this, Stossel is a noodle. The living 'libertarian' straw argument. Stossel has done some good pieces when he isn't being challenged, such as a piece on Canadian health care that comes to mind. However, he doesn't seem able to stand up to a challenge.

So O'Rielly divided the 'libertarian viewers' from Freedomwatch with bait of Stossel and attacking Ron, I guess.

[Carehn]

Tube?

[bluesc]

Tube?

I've already uploaded it, but youtube is under maintenance, so won't process it. I'll post when it's done.

[Verrater]

Stossel didn't do very well sadly.

[KramerDSP]

Let's do a chip-in and get the best John Stossel mask we can find for Tom Woods, and then pull off a switcheroonie. I would pay money to see that.

[Carehn]

You sexy beast you!

[Esoteric]

Don't watch fox right now. Cain is being pimped by hannity, and LUNTZ is analyzing.

[bluesc]

Don't watch fox right now. Cain is being pimped by hannity, and LUNTZ is analyzing.

*Immediately turns on Fox*

[bluesc]

*Immediately turns on Fox*

*Turns it off when Hannity says Newt is top tier*

[GeorgiaAvenger]

*Turns it off when Hannity says Newt is top tier*
He has been lately

[sailingaway]

He has been lately

Not more than Ron was before media ignored him and Fox gave Cain and Gingrich so much more time at the debate. But they didn't say it about Ron. And Ron is still ahead of Gingrich in the new WaPo poll, etc.

[bluesc]

He has been lately

Really? So why wasn't Ron "top tier" when he was polling @ 13% in 3rd? He is 4 points behind Ron in one poll that came out today, and is 1 point ahead of Ron in the other. How can one be top tier but not the other?

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Really? So why wasn't Ron "top tier" when he was polling @ 13% in 3rd? He is 4 points behind Ron in one poll that came out today, and is 1 point ahead of Ron in the other. How can one be top tier but not the other?

I think both are

[sailingaway]

Stossel is still way better than 98% of anything else on television.

You really CAN go through life without watching television. That is what youtube is for.

[jax]

basically this is what they said "perry is slipping, cain and newt are rising, romney has remained leader, and bachman has fallen. are they forgetting someone? jesus, what is their problem

[Captain Caveman]

"Never do business with anyone who shows bias" - Bill O'Reilly.

Grumble

[ronpaulfollower999]

basically this is what they said "perry is slipping, cain and newt are rising, romney has remained leader, and bachman has fallen. are they forgetting someone? jesus, what is their problem

I know right? How can they forget about Jon Huntsman?

[Anti Federalist]

"Ron Paul should be sent to Iran so that they will collapse sooner."
~Bill o'Reilly
The words of a true statesman.
/Sarcasm

Not to worry Bill, the US government is already sending al-Qaeda (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_04/011072.php) backed terrorists there to make the country collapse.

We've been fucking those people up for years now.

[frag4yourlife]

youtube?

[Carehn]

Not to worry Bill, the US government is already sending al-Qaeda (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_04/011072.php) backed terrorists there to make the country collapse.

We've been fucking those people up for years now.

Shush, Damn it! He hasn't seen this one yet.

People like you always dick the end of a good movie for the rest of us.

[bluesc]

Youtube was down, had to use metacafe:


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/7342575/stossel_on_oreilly/

[devil21]

^^^^^^
What a waste of time for Stossel. 4 minutes which was, as usual, Bill talking over his guest. Stossel could have handled that better though. He plays a pretty weak opponent to Bill. Sorta the Colmes character.

[Carole]

Stossel did good, great ally.

HUH?


Stossel did terrible. :(

[ronpaulfollower999]

Bill O is the dumbest person on tv right now. Holy Crap.

[Carehn]

Bill is a bad man.

[wrestlingwes_8]

Stossel is the worst...he always does a terrible job at defending Ron Paul...wish he would just go away already :mad:

[frag4yourlife]

gobly gook - Bill O'reilly

LOL

[devil21]

gobly gook - Bill O'reilly

LOL

So Bill called history "gobbledygook". Interesting.

[dannno]

Wow, I'd like to see all the complainers in this thread get on Bill O'Reilly and do better..

[Matthew5]

Stossel is the Reason/Cato variety of libertarian.

Just curious, how would you describe this type?

[cucucachu0000]

i thought he did pretty good i wish he had a good answer at the end after bills comment like last time i saw him on there. bill- "i dont want him as president" stossel- "o yes you do"

[Crystallas]

Wait, I finally got to see this video, and what is the hate about? Bill O'Turd was being impossible on top of his normal douchebag self.... but some people want to hate on Stossel for this? Give me a break. Blame the bag of dicks who only believes in what he says, leave Stossel alone.

[kojirodensetsu]

How is Bill still on TV? He's the stupidest person on TV. His entire premise was that if Iran had nukes that it means that they would use them. No they wouldn't. If they nuked Ireland like Bill suggests then Iran would get nuked back.

[Crystallas]

Just curious, how would you describe this type?

Cato is a conservative, free market think tank. Reason claims to be a think tank, but they are more of a publication that supports free markets and free social movements(not socialism, using social as in openly discussed) in many forms of individualism. Stossel is a journalist! He's not a politician, he's not an economist, he is just a journalist.

[Czolgosz]

Stossel's 'stache did just fine.

[Czolgosz]

How is Bill still on TV? He's the stupidest person on TV. His entire premise was that if Iran had nukes that it means that they would use them. No they wouldn't. If they nuked Ireland like Bill suggests then Iran would get nuked back.

If Bill was Iran he'd use them...that's why he doesn't want them to have 'em.

[Endthefednow]

Thanks to all for watching and posting I just can not listen or view the fox CNN or any of the media of the world that keep Ron Paul in the 13th floor :confused:

[eff]

Let's send O'Reilly to Iran to stop the nuclear bomb.

[Revolution9]

Wow, I'd like to see all the complainers in this thread get on Bill O'Reilly and do better..

I would kick his metaphorical ass. I have a knack of saying just the right thing to blowhards to send them into a rage from cognitive dissonance and being the butt of sarcasm.

Rev9

[Revolution9]

Just curious, how would you describe this type?

A co-opted milquetoast. No backbone and easy to take a stroll over.

HTH
Rev9

[devil21]

I would kick his metaphorical ass. I have a knack of saying just the right thing to blowhards to send them into a rage from cognitive dissonance and being the butt of sarcasm.

Rev9

Yeah I had good stuff popping into my head left and right that Stossel should have said while watching the segment. Stossel has a long history of tv appearances so he shouldn't have any stage fright, and certainly not comparable to what the rest of us would probably have. Stossel just didn't answer and fire back as well as he could have. It's not like O'Reilly's points are hard to anticipate. You KNOW what he's going to say because it's what he always says.