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Feeding the Abscess
10-04-2011, 08:06 AM
This shouldn't be placed in opposing candidates. It deserves greater exposure.

By the by, I'm surprised Frank hasn't posted anything about this, since he and the rest of the JBS has a bugaboo up its butt concerning all things Muslim.

I digress:

Michele Bachmann, along with Rudy Giuliani, Wesley Clark, Howard Dean, and John Bolton, are paid lobbyists for the MEK.

Who/what is MEK?

The MEK was created in 1965 as part of a Soviet-sponsored international terrorist network that waged wars of "national liberation" throughout the developing world. Human Rights Watch, which describes the MEK as an "urban guerrilla group," points out that the group's ideology is a Muslim variation on "liberation theology."

http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/112/tak070711.pdf

Ray Takeyh, who is (of all things) a Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, pointed out that the MEK "sought to … amalgamate Islam and Marxism. Islam was supposed to provide the values while Marxism offered a pathway for organizing the society and defeating the forces of capitalism, imperialism, and feudalism…. [F]rom Lenin they embraced the importance of a vanguard party committed to mass mobilization, and from Third World revolutionaries they took the primacy of guerilla warfare as indispensable agents of political change."

Thanks to Will Grigg over at LRC for his reporting (http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w232.html). Add to this that Bachmann is advised by hard neo-cons on foreign policy, and I'll be waiting for JBS' renouncement of Bachmann, and their call for her to be branded a traitor, in 3...2...1...

CaptUSA
10-04-2011, 08:34 AM
Uh oh... Watch out for the ObamaDrones.

Voluntary Man
10-04-2011, 08:49 AM
This shouldn't be placed in opposing candidates. It deserves greater exposure.

By the by, I'm surprised Frank hasn't posted anything about this, since he and the rest of the JBS has a bugaboo up its butt concerning all things Muslim.

I digress:

Michele Bachmann, along with Rudy Giuliani, Wesley Clark, Howard Dean, and John Bolton, are paid lobbyists for the MEK.

Who/what is MEK?

The MEK was created in 1965 as part of a Soviet-sponsored international terrorist network that waged wars of "national liberation" throughout the developing world. Human Rights Watch, which describes the MEK as an "urban guerrilla group," points out that the group's ideology is a Muslim variation on "liberation theology."

http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/112/tak070711.pdf

Ray Takeyh, who is (of all things) a Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, pointed out that the MEK "sought to … amalgamate Islam and Marxism. Islam was supposed to provide the values while Marxism offered a pathway for organizing the society and defeating the forces of capitalism, imperialism, and feudalism…. [F]rom Lenin they embraced the importance of a vanguard party committed to mass mobilization, and from Third World revolutionaries they took the primacy of guerilla warfare as indispensable agents of political change."

Thanks to Will Grigg over at LRC for his reporting (http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w232.html). Add to this that Bachmann is advised by hard neo-cons on foreign policy, and I'll be waiting for JBS' renouncement of Bachmann, and their call for her to be branded a traitor, in 3...2...1...

JBS is anti-muslim? Canceled my subscription to New American, after they treated Grigg so badly, but i was unaware of the other. ...possibly because i canceled my subscription.

FrankRep
10-04-2011, 08:53 AM
JBS is anti-muslim? Canceled my subscription to New American, after they treated Grigg so badly, but i was unaware of the other. ...possibly because i canceled my subscription.
That's a lie. The JBS is against the Islamic Terrorist Organizations, not against the religion.

FrankRep
10-04-2011, 08:54 AM
You don't have to attack me. That is uncalled for.

eduardo89
10-04-2011, 09:01 AM
That's a lie. The JBS is against the Islamic Terrorist Organizations, not against the religion.

Agreed, JBS is not a racist or anti-Muslim organization.

Feeding the Abscess
10-04-2011, 09:04 AM
I didn't attack you. I'm legitimately curious as to why the JBS isn't calling for Bachmann's head.

While the JBS may not explicitly say it is anti-Muslim (and yes, I was speaking in hyperbole), it certainly panders to anti-Muslim sentiment and is quick to wail about the pending alliance between Islam and Marxists.

Meanwhile, a politician the JBS generally supports actually is in league with a terrorist group that has sought to fuse Islam with Marxism, and ... nothing is said.

FrankRep
10-04-2011, 09:07 AM
I didn't attack you. I'm legitimately curious as to why the JBS isn't calling for Bachmann's head.

While the JBS may not explicitly say it is anti-Muslim (and yes, I was speaking in hyperbole), it certainly panders to anti-Muslim sentiment and is quick to wail about the pending alliance between Islam and Marxists.

Meanwhile, a politician the JBS generally supports actually is in league with a terrorist group that has sought to fuse Islam with Marxism, and ... nothing is said.
The JBS has been pushing Ron Paul for years now so chill out.

Feeding the Abscess
10-04-2011, 09:12 AM
The JBS has been pushing Ron Paul for years now so chill out.

I'm aware. I appreciate a good deal of what the JBS does; I'm not exactly an opponent. However, I'm not a paying supporter, nor do I care for many of the stances JBS takes or the issues on which it chooses to focus.

FrankRep
10-04-2011, 09:16 AM
This is interesting. The Bush Admin. seemed pretty friendly with the MEK as well.


More Covert War Against Iran (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/672)
Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
12 January 2009


...

Even as far back as 2004, the Christian Science Monitor reported (http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0729/p07s01-wome.html) that the United States had begun subsidizing Marxist MEK terrorists for an eventual terror campaign against Iran. And the United States has indeed trained and funded MEK terrorists (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh) for strikes against Iran, including bringing them over to the United States for training in Nevada (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92025860).

That the Bush administration would choose the MEK is revealing. The left-wing magazine Foreign Policy put it best (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495002/posts): “[The] Iranian group has killed American civilians, allied itself with Saddam Hussein, and holds a spot on the State Department’s terrorist watch list. So why might it become America’s newest friend in the Middle East?” Here is a Marxist organization that was too far left for the Clinton administration, which listed MEK as a terrorist organization in 1997. But now they are worthy as allies, according to Bush administration policy.

LibertyEagle
10-04-2011, 09:19 AM
I didn't attack you. I'm legitimately curious as to why the JBS isn't calling for Bachmann's head.

While the JBS may not explicitly say it is anti-Muslim (and yes, I was speaking in hyperbole), it certainly panders to anti-Muslim sentiment and is quick to wail about the pending alliance between Islam and Marxists.

Meanwhile, a politician the JBS generally supports actually is in league with a terrorist group that has sought to fuse Islam with Marxism, and ... nothing is said.

Who would that be?

The JBS has been supporting Ron Paul for at least 30 years.

Feeding the Abscess
10-04-2011, 09:24 AM
Who would that be?

The JBS has been supporting Ron Paul for at least 30 years.

Michele Bachmann is the politician I alluded to in the quoted post.

FrankRep
10-04-2011, 09:27 AM
Feeding the Abscess:


To answer your question, the JBS covered the story January 06 2011


http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/giuliani-t.001.jpg




Americans who public opposed terrorism now supporting it; Giuliani, Tom Ridge, Fran Townsend and Michael Mukasey attended forum, demanding that Mujaheddin-e Khalq (MEK) be removed from list of foreign terrorist organizations.



Anti-Terrorism Mouthpieces Now Supporting Terror (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/5770-anti-terrorism-mouthpieces-now-supporting-terror)


Kelly Holt | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
06 January 2011

Voluntary Man
10-04-2011, 01:52 PM
That's a lie. The JBS is against the Islamic Terrorist Organizations, not against the religion.

thanks for clarifying. i have never been aware of any type of bigotry, religious, racial, or other from the JBS. poor judgment is another matter (the Grigg firing).

Becker
10-04-2011, 02:04 PM
That's a lie. The JBS is against the Islamic Terrorist Organizations, not against the religion.

JBS is not against the Muslim religion?

AGRP
10-04-2011, 02:05 PM
It never ends.

I think I like the Anarcho-Christian philosophy more than a Republic or Democracy.