Where Is The Occupy Wall Street Demand To End The Fed?

[FrankRep]

Where Is The Occupy Wall Street Demand To End The Fed? (http://www.infowars.com/where-is-the-ows-demand-to-end-the-fed/)


Infowars
Oct 3, 2011



In spite of a large number of protesters who are clearly aware of the fact that the greatest threat to the global financial system comes not directly from Wall Street but from the privately owned Federal Reserve cartel, the official “list of specific demands (http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-washington-dc/)” of the Occupy Wall Street movement makes absolutely no mention of the Fed whatsoever.




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[Travlyr]

The people funding the protests don't want to end the Fed. Good grief. Where would they get the money to pay the police?

[matt0611]

The people funding the protests don't want to end the Fed. Good grief. Where would they get the money to pay the police?

Yeah, lol, the same police that are macing them and arresting them :D

Silly liberals....

[pcosmar]

I have seen it on several signs held by several protesters.
If you are not seeing them you are not looking.

I saw another one in the LA protests. (look through the photos)

[FrankRep]

I have seen it on several signs held by several protesters.
If you are not seeing them you are not looking.

Where is End the Fed in the demands?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-washington-dc/

[pcosmar]

Where is End the Fed in the demands?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-washington-dc/

What is your point? That is only one of many web sites and they DO NOT speak for all.
There are folks involved in this from many backgrounds and ideologies.

The only thing you are doing is discouraging any of the voices here from participating.
Get off your ASS and get involved. Take that message there.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/edward-murray/occupy-wall-street-protest_b_988341.html

On occupywallstreet.org, the closest thing you will find to an official mission statement is this:

Our nation, our species and our world are in crisis. The U.S. has an important role to play in the solution, but we can no longer afford to let corporate greed and corrupt politics set the policies of our nation.

[JoshLowry]

Where is End the Fed in the demands?

http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-washington-dc/

You are linking to a site made by god knows who.

Think there may be some special interests involved?

Oh, this list happens to lack any mention of the fed. That's not a red flag or anything...

Come off it Frank.

[deadfish]

Where Is The Occupy Wall Street Demand To End The Fed?


Where are the Liberty/RonPaul folks to bring the message to OWS?

Personally, I have no excuse. I could probably take a day off work and go up there this weekend and talk to people. Maybe I can motivate myself to go.

[LibertyEagle]

The article that Frank posted is from Alex Jones' website. The link to the demands came from that article.

While I am sure there are a few good people involved in the Wall Street protests, it seems pretty clear to me this is an event contrived by Soros.

Note: It is just my opinion, but I think it is a mistake to do anything to make it appear that Ron Paul supporters are involved in that particular protest. Being involved in a Soros-backed protest will not go over well with likely Republican voters. If you want someplace to hand out RP literature, there are a ton of tea party events going on and as mundane as it may seem, going door-to-door handing out campaign literature is a tried and true method of getting the word out and winning elections. The campaign is also still needing many more people for their calling program.

Otherwise, go to the Wall Street event and knock your socks off, but please leave your RP paraphernalia at home.

[pcosmar]

Where is End the Fed in the demands?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySGw-g2tyk

Asked and answered.
This is where the idea started.. in cyberspace.

[Sola_Fide]

Why is it when liberty people work with socialists on certain issues, more socialism always results?

[deadfish]

I guess opinions differ, but I believe that there is always reason to talk with people. Keep it low-key, don't push literature into hands while wearing an RP shirt. Just talk. Or even better: listen, and then talk. I've found that strategy works well for me.

[pcosmar]

Why is it when liberty people work with socialists on certain issues, more socialism always results?

Because a ton of people do NOTHING while they allow the socialists to take the lead.

The entire Cold war Red scare was a bunch of socialists pointing fingers saying "look over there a communist." while they ran the whole government. And built the Military Industrial Complex.
We have been a socialist country giving only lip service to the Constitution since the early 1900s.

[dannno]

Why is it when liberty people work with socialists on certain issues, more socialism always results?

Example?

[FrankRep]

Because a ton of people do NOTHING while they allow the socialists to take the lead.

Socialists tend to create the problem in the place.

[dannno]

Socialists tend to create the problem in the place.

Right, they tend to create, while we are just supposed to sit here and complain and convince people who have the answers not to participate :confused:

[pcosmar]

Socialists tend to create the problem in the place.

You mean like the Federal Reserve? or the CIA?

Question,, Who defended the Constitutional rights of accused Communists during the which hunts?

[Feeding the Abscess]

The article that Frank posted is from Alex Jones' website. The link to the demands came from that article.

While I am sure there are a few good people involved in the Wall Street protests, it seems pretty clear to me this is an event contrived by Soros.

Note: It is just my opinion, but I think it is a mistake to do anything to make it appear that Ron Paul supporters are involved in that particular protest. Being involved in a Soros-backed protest will not go over well with likely Republican voters. If you want someplace to hand out RP literature, there are a ton of tea party events going on and as mundane as it may seem, going door-to-door handing out campaign literature is a tried and true method of getting the word out and winning elections. The campaign is also still needing many more people for their calling program.

Otherwise, go to the Wall Street event and knock your socks off, but please leave your RP paraphernalia at home.

Ron Paul's political platform doesn't go over well with likely Republican voters.

In any event, if someone decides to go, show up in a Rothbard shirt and point out the ties between the banking cartel and our foreign policy, plus the massive banks requiring government debt to expand and survive. Then drop a Ron Paul reference.

[pcosmar]

Right, they tend to create, while we are just supposed to sit here and complain and convince people who have the answers not to participate :confused:

THAT is what puzzles me.
;)

btw, I liked your End the Fed Sign.

[dannno]

THAT is what puzzles me.
;)

btw, I liked your End the Fed Sign.

Thanks, I'm planning on darkening up the "END THE"


http://urimg.net/a3420.jpg

[Sentient Void]

Actually, here in Boston they've been protesting *specifically* at the Federal Reserve. There is a video floating around of a bunch of protesters surrounding the Boston Fed chanting 'Fuck the Fed! Fuck the Fed!' on and on. Cops in front of the Fed and everything. I have work tomorrow - but may head down there on Wednesday to check it out and see what's up - talk to some people.

[FrankRep]

Side note, dannno:


The Thomas Jefferson Quote is FALSE



"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."


http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp



http://urimg.net/a3420.jpg

[Feeding the Abscess]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZmPWcLQ1Mk&feature=youtu.be

There you go, Frank.

[LibertyEagle]

Ron Paul's political platform doesn't go over well with likely Republican voters.

In any event, if someone decides to go, show up in a Rothbard shirt and point out the ties between the banking cartel and our foreign policy, plus the massive banks requiring government debt to expand and survive. Then drop a Ron Paul reference.

Well, since Paul is running for the Republican nomination, not the CP-USA nomination, we'd better figure out how to make him go over well with likely Republican voters and fast. Personally, I think a lot of it is because they do not understand what he is trying to say. If one didn't have the background, it would be pretty hard to figure out what he is saying. I adore him, but it is just the truth.

[LibertyEagle]

Right, they tend to create, while we are just supposed to sit here and complain and convince people who have the answers not to participate :confused:

What is stopping us from creating?

[FrankRep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZmPWcLQ1Mk[/video]

There you go, Frank.

One person! Woohoo!

[QueenB4Liberty]

If you have any soul you will pay me $30 an hour to be a Marijuana Tester.

Wow. That was actually one of the comments to a thread on that forum. I mean wow. That has water coming out of my nose onto my keyboard. Seriously!?! I think they are actually being serious.

[LibertyEagle]

You mean like the Federal Reserve? or the CIA?

Question,, Who defended the Constitutional rights of accused Communists during the which hunts?

Lawyers?

By the way, I thought McCarthy was absolutely right. In fact, I think he was a hero. It really wasn't like Hollywood has depicted it in their movies. Can you think of a reason they would frame it the way they have? Yes, I know you could.

Here is a decent book on the subject. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400081068

It's too bad he is not alive today. He could root out all the Communitarian/Communist SOBs that are in our government today.

[seapilot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bFVR9Nv43J4

[FrankRep]

By the way, I thought McCarthy was absolutely right. In fact, I think he was a hero.

Yep.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US-3-2010/joseph-mccarthy-loc.001.jpg




Fox News host Glenn Beck aired an extraordinary program June 24 explaining how author M. Stanton Evans exposed how the facts released from the files of the FBI and the World War II-era Office of Strategic Services over the past two decades have vindicated the controversial charges of communism in the U.S. State Department by Senator Joseph McCarthy.



Glenn Beck: History Vindicated Joe McCarthy (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/37-history/3876-glenn-beck-history-vindicated-joe-mccarthy)


Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
Friday, 25 June 2010



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7oMhE72A6Q



http://asset-server.libsyn.com/item/769628/assets/blacklisted.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400081068/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=1400081068)

Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400081068/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=1400081068)
- M. Stanton Evans

[pcosmar]

One person! Woohoo!

They are ALL one person.
Individuals. There are thousands of individuals. Some know a little, some are ignorant.
All are pissed enough to get out and march.

[pcosmar]

Lawyers?


To an extent. Some lawyers tried to defend the rights of those accused.
Most of those accusing were as socialist as the accused.

We Just elected a new Governor in Michigan as a response to the democrat that had been there for years.

Guess what the Republican is doing? That's right,, the same damn thing. But he is an "R" so it's OK.

:(

[AuH20]

Yep.


http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/stories/US-3-2010/joseph-mccarthy-loc.001.jpg




Fox News host Glenn Beck aired an extraordinary program June 24 explaining how author M. Stanton Evans exposed how the facts released from the files of the FBI and the World War II-era Office of Strategic Services over the past two decades have vindicated the controversial charges of communism in the U.S. State Department by Senator Joseph McCarthy.



Glenn Beck: History Vindicated Joe McCarthy (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/37-history/3876-glenn-beck-history-vindicated-joe-mccarthy)


Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
Friday, 25 June 2010



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7oMhE72A6Q



http://asset-server.libsyn.com/item/769628/assets/blacklisted.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400081068/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=1400081068)

Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400081068/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=libert0f-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=1400081068)
- M. Stanton Evans

Roosevelt adored Joseph Stalin and key members of his cabinet were fervently pro-Soviet. Take away the straight-forward violence and many establishment progressive types wouldn't have any problem with the goals of the Soviet Union.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHrN5vZI7uA

[LibertyEagle]

To an extent. Some lawyers tried to defend the rights of those accused.
Most of those accusing were as socialist as the accused.

We Just elected a new Governor in Michigan as a response to the democrat that had been there for years.

Guess what the Republican is doing? That's right,, the same damn thing. But he is an "R" so it's OK.

:(

That's one of the problems, isn't it? We have the same types of America-hating** pukes on both sides of the aisle.

** People who detest the principles upon which our country was founded; those same principles that we are trying to reinstate.

[angelatc]

Why is it when liberty people work with socialists on certain issues, more socialism always results?

Because the liberty people believe that the socialists will want liberty after they understand it. But that's a huge mistake. The socialists want money and power, and nothing will change that.

[AuH20]

Because the liberty people believe that the socialists will want liberty after they understand it. But that's a huge mistake. The socialists want money and power, and nothing will change that.

The dirty little secret is that these young "idealistic" socialists want to be the bankers.

[angelatc]

To an extent. Some lawyers tried to defend the rights of those accused.
Most of those accusing were as socialist as the accused.

We Just elected a new Governor in Michigan as a response to the democrat that had been there for years.

Guess what the Republican is doing? That's right,, the same damn thing. But he is an "R" so it's OK.

:(

I am assuming you're not going to your local EC meetings, and perhaps if you were elected as a precinct delegate like Paul asked us, maybe your precinct isn't active on Facebook.

I can assure you that in the 3 counties where I have friends active in the GOP that none of them are happy with everything Snyder is doing. And I can also assure you that capping welfare after 4 years is certainly not "the same damn thing" a Democrat would have done.

[FrankRep]

Because the liberty people believe that the socialists will want liberty after they understand it. But that's a huge mistake. The socialists want money and power, and nothing will change that.
Yep. Agenda vs. Logic.

Socialists have an Agenda.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I have seen it on several signs held by several protesters.
If you are not seeing them you are not looking.

I saw another one in the LA protests. (look through the photos)I wish protestors would learn... the sign you make at home or ad hoc with a marker doesn't read well on Media News Reports.

Make'um Big and colorful

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/April15thTEAParty104.jpg

[AGRP]

Because a ton of people do NOTHING while they allow the socialists to take the lead.



Mobs don't accomplish much other than to bring attention to an issue. I'm willing to bet Ron Pauls message of liberty has opened the minds of millions and is still spreading.

[angelatc]

Right, they tend to create, while we are just supposed to sit here and complain and convince people who have the answers not to participate :confused:

You seem to be missing the fact that these greedy entitled little bastards aren't marching on Washington - they're never, ever going to stop believing that the government will be their salvation....if only the right people run it. Talk to them about Ron Paul and ending the wars, and they'll smile and nod, but as soon as you walk away they're back to protecting their precious redistribution checks above all else.

These people don't want freedom - they want communism.

[parocks]

The article that Frank posted is from Alex Jones' website. The link to the demands came from that article.

While I am sure there are a few good people involved in the Wall Street protests, it seems pretty clear to me this is an event contrived by Soros.

Note: It is just my opinion, but I think it is a mistake to do anything to make it appear that Ron Paul supporters are involved in that particular protest. Being involved in a Soros-backed protest will not go over well with likely Republican voters. If you want someplace to hand out RP literature, there are a ton of tea party events going on and as mundane as it may seem, going door-to-door handing out campaign literature is a tried and true method of getting the word out and winning elections. The campaign is also still needing many more people for their calling program.

Otherwise, go to the Wall Street event and knock your socks off, but please leave your RP paraphernalia at home.

Agree, don't go out of your way to tie yourself in public and on tv with these people who average Republicans do not like at all.

If I liked protests, I'd go with things that Obama is weak at. Obama is weak on Monsanto, Codex, ADM, raw milk, etc. The people who are protesting there would also
be perceived to be against those things. We're pretty mighty, but we really don't seem to be able to do clever all that well. It's as if we must put Ron Paul colors on. We could be more effective if we didn't.

[GreenBulldog]

I have mixed feelings about the protest.

The bankers are crooks and should go to jail, no doubt....

...but I feel like the overall people want to replace socialism for fascism. Like the OP asked, what about the Fed? How many who are protesting know WHY the Fed is a problem? They're just pissed about economic inequality without realizing what's causing it.

As long as people believe that government is the solution to the problems, we're heading towards socialism. They don't realize that bankers got away theft because the government helped them do so.

[pcosmar]

These people don't want freedom - they want communism.

Except for the ones that don't want communism.
The ones that want an honest market and honest government.

"They are all this",, "they are all that".
NO THEY ARE NOT They are all individuals.
Some are socialists. Some are Anarchists. Some are Liberty lovers.
Nearly all are Americans. They are ALL pissed at the corruption.
They may see, or be offered different solutions to that. If they are not offered good solutions,, who's fault is that?

Either way,, several will likely end up dead very soon. I expect that TPTB will escalate the violence soon enough.

Where it goes from there,,,who knows?

[parocks]

You seem to be missing the fact that these greedy entitled little bastards aren't marching on Washington - they're never, ever going to stop believing that the government will be their salvation....if only the right people run it. Talk to them about Ron Paul and ending the wars, and they'll smile and nod, but as soon as you walk away they're back to protecting their precious redistribution checks above all else.

These people don't want freedom - they want communism.

If we were there, and I'm not saying we should be, but if we were, if someone could just bring 100 clever signs, give them to the Ron Paul people who are there, and tell them to just mingle with everyone else, it might be more effective. We might be able to tell them how bad Obama is and they might be just a little bit less enthusiastic. And the TV cameras can see messages that Obama wouldn't like to see. I like attacking Monsanto. The left doesn't like Monsanto, and Obama has been 100% pro Monsanto.

[pcosmar]

Like the OP asked, what about the Fed? so.

This ALL started with Anonymous. It started with the FED.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XySGw-g2tyk

There are many with their pet peeves. But this is where it started.

[GreenBulldog]

Where it goes from there,,,who knows?

Probably socialism, although they won't call it that.

It seems to me that they're not blaming the government for the crony capitalism as much as Wall St.

What's really scary to me is government usurping more power by using Wall St. as a scapegoat (not that they don't deserve it)...

...Just like they did with terrorism...

What's next? Nationalizing the Fed?

[pcosmar]

Probably socialism, although they won't call it that.

It seems to me that they're not blaming the government for the crony capitalism as much as Wall St.

What's really scary to me is government usurping more power by using Wall St. as a scapegoat (not that they don't deserve it)...

...Just like they did with terrorism...

What's next? Nationalizing the Fed?

We already have Socialism/Corporatism. Have had for almost 100 years.

What happens next,,, when they start shooting people like they did in Egypt, Yemen Syria etc.
What "They" want is a One World Government and to completely dismiss any reference to our Constitution.

We'll see.

[GreenBulldog]

We already have Socialism/Corporatism. Have had for almost 100 years.

What happens next,,, when they start shooting people like they did in Egypt, Yemen Syria etc.
What "They" want is a One World Government and to completely dismiss any reference to our Constitution.

We'll see.

We have fascism, no? Maybe a combination of semi-socialism and semi-fascism and semi-statism and semi-capitalism?

I say we'll go towards total socialism as long as people believe government is the solution. Of course, when the people wake up and try to take back the country, they'll start shooting people like in Egypt, Syria, etc.

That's why I have mixed feelings about this protest. I feel they're promoting socialism. What scares me is government using this to usurp more power.

Like you said, "they" are working towards a one world government. Dismission of the constitution was attempted since its ratification. It lost a lot of ground the last 100 years.

[pcosmar]

Like you said, "they" are working towards a one world government. Dismission of the constitution was attempted since its ratification. It lost a lot of ground the last 100 years.

My worst concern is not socialism. We have that and I would like to see significantly less.
No,, my concern is that there are a lot of pissed off people and they may light the fuse on this powder keg.

I expect violence. I do NOT wish or hope for it (just the opposite) but I expect it.
I expect the Government to initiate it. They already are. They are attacking peaceful people.

If it does blow up,, then what?

[GreenBulldog]

My worst concern is not socialism. We have that and I would like to see significantly less.
No,, my concern is that there are a lot of pissed off people and they may light the fuse on this powder keg.

I expect violence. I do NOT wish or hope for it (just the opposite) but I expect it.
I expect the Government to initiate it. They already are. They are attacking peaceful people.

If it does blow up,, then what?

Powder keg? Personally, I don't see it like that. We're too passive as a nation-me included.

We've been conditioned to obey and that government is good.

When I start seeing armed protesters, that's when I'll change my opinion about that.

Either way, just like you, I don't like the forecasts of the "then what?" question.

Edit: I'm listening to the Peter Schiff show as I was writing this and he agrees with me that protesters need to occupy K St. rather than Wall St. I never said to occupy K St., but we agree that government is the root source of problem.

[JoshLowry]

If it does blow up,, then what?

Cleanup and rebuild it better.

[pcosmar]

Cleanup and rebuild it better.

That is one possibility. That is what the Founders were left with when diplomatic efforts failed.
That has happened elsewhere. I really don't like violence or the pain that would come with it.
But violence is a reality,, and a possible outcome.

Time will tell.

[ZanZibar]

Ron Paul on the Occupy Wall Street protest - a blog by Doug Wead, Sr Adviser to the Ron Paul 2012 Campaign:
http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/ron-paul-and-the-occupy-wall-street-protest/




Ron Paul discusses it with Reason Magazine:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/01/ron-paul-talks-about-the-occup



And Jack Hunter discusses it on Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3kcxARJ1YzQ