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NathandWarren
10-02-2011, 10:04 PM
So, I'm kind of weary of going to an Occupy City Hall thing if it's going to be a socialist sit in. I do think it might be a good way of reaching a bunch of new people, however. What are your thoughts? Should our movement participate actively? Or should we act as sort of hands off counselors, there to syphon off support for Obama?

Here is the NY Occupy Wall Street statement, ie http://bit.ly/qaSaCA . I'm worried that we don't have enough middle ground to stand on. (The conversation I just had with my roommate would definitely suggest that is the case)

Best,

Nate

Kludge
10-02-2011, 10:18 PM
There's already a fair amount of RP folks there promoting. Anti-corporatism's a pretty solid RP-friendly idea. Some of the other ideas going around obviously are not, but that's no reason not to head on out and talk to politically active people if that's your interest. RPFers go to all sorts of ultra-conservative summits and conferences, but nobody says "Oh, Ron Paul had a strong supporter presence at Values Voter Summit where some people favor gov't marriage, and insist on leaving gays out of their sacred gov't ceremony, so I can't vote for him."

libertarian4321
10-03-2011, 06:34 AM
I really have no idea what the "occupy" movement is all about, and I'm not sure they do, either.

Looks to me like a bunch of malcontents angry about something that they can't define and don't know how to fix, so they just "protest" any convenient target.

TheLasersShadow
10-03-2011, 06:39 AM
Infiltrate, educate and co-opt.

Elwar
10-03-2011, 06:58 AM
They are accepting Bitcoin for donations...the Bitcoin folks are down there trying to enlighten them.

http://nycga.cc/donate/

(http://nycga.cc/donate/)http://feedtheprotest.com/node/223

(http://feedtheprotest.com/node/223)
As our recent experience with PayPal (http://feedtheprotest.com/node/219) has all too painfully demonstrated, relying exclusively on corporate payment processing to fund a movement that seeks to undermine corporate power is a risky proposition. As such, we at Feed the Protest have decided to begin accepting donations in Bitcoin, the anonymous open source peer-to-peer currency that was used to help fund Wikileaks when they faced similar issues (http://features.techworld.com/networking/3253305/wikileaks-paypal-and-virtual-currency/). To learn more about how Bitcoin works, visitWe Use Coins (http://www.weusecoins.com/), and, to get your hands on some, a list of major exchanges can be found at Bitcoin.org (http://bitcoin.org/). It is our hope that the PayPal situation will be resolved soon, but we can be certain that all Bitcoin payments will, in fact, go through.

Accepting non-fiat currency is a good move.

Zarn Solen
10-03-2011, 06:59 AM
I have a friend from high school, who is on my FB. He is clearly big government and joined one of these things in Philly. He likes to pretend he is a thinker, but he really is not. He thinks the DMV being federalized would make things easier.

The grand majority are likely to be outright hostile towards Ron Paul.

mczerone
10-03-2011, 07:02 AM
There's already a fair amount of RP folks there promoting. Anti-corporatism's a pretty solid RP-friendly idea. Some of the other ideas going around obviously are not, but that's no reason not to head on out and talk to politically active people if that's your interest. RPFers go to all sorts of ultra-conservative summits and conferences, but nobody says "Oh, Ron Paul had a strong supporter presence at Values Voter Summit where some people favor gov't marriage, and insist on leaving gays out of their sacred gov't ceremony, so I can't vote for him."

Actually, people DO say that. It's just not an issue right now because we're in the primary season.

CaptUSA
10-03-2011, 07:21 AM
Just don't bring signs. I hate seeing a news report showing these clowns, who have no idea what their so pissed about, getting rowdy, and then one of us is holding up a Ron Paul sign in the back.

rprprs
10-03-2011, 07:40 AM
I really have no idea what the "occupy" movement is all about, and I'm not sure they do, either.

Looks to me like a bunch of malcontents angry about something that they can't define and don't know how to fix, so they just "protest" any convenient target.

My thoughts exactly. Except, I'm not even sure that most of them are truly "angry' about anything. I'd be willing to bet that a large contingent are simply there for the party-like atmosphere. People with nothing better to do... or, at best, an amorphous 2011 version of a sixties "be-in".

LisaNY
10-03-2011, 07:40 AM
Not for me, I'm anti-"occupation".

Travlyr
10-03-2011, 07:44 AM
I really have no idea what the "occupy" movement is all about, and I'm not sure they do, either.

Looks to me like a bunch of malcontents angry about something that they can't define and don't know how to fix, so they just "protest" any convenient target.

It is more than that. The effort is directed at misdiagnosis of the problem. Now it is the blame game. If the powers-in-charge can get the people to blame the wrong culprit, then the TPTB keep their power.

The Daily Bell - Blaming Wall Street Is Wrong (http://www.thedailybell.com/3015/Anthony-Wile-Blaming-Wall-Street-Is-Wrong)

Sola_Fide
10-03-2011, 07:45 AM
"Re-elect Obama!"

JamesButabi
10-03-2011, 08:59 AM
I think it would be fun to secretly carry RP materials in a backpack for obvious supporters while also openly displaying sign with the irony of the event.

" Barack Obama or Mitt Romney. Pick one and shut up "
" Who is getting insider money? Not Ron Paul! "