Dem Calls Cain ‘Racist, Bigoted', Cain: Perry's Hunting Camp name 'Insulting' to Blacks

[moderate libertarian]

This is not entirely new, Cain has been called 'racist,bigoted' before when he had said he won't have any muslims in his cabinet but would welcome gays as they won't impose sharia. But this time it come from Dem strategist Obama pollster:

Democratic Strategist Calls Herman Cain ‘Racist, Bigoted‘ for Saying Blacks Have Been ’Brainwashed’

September 30, 2011
Democratic strategist Cornell Belcher said GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain is “racist” and “bigoted” for his comment this week that African Americans have been “brainwashed” to not accept conservatism.

Belcher, a pollster for President Barack Obama, told CNN‘s Anderson Cooper that Cain’s remarks exposed a “double standard” and should be a “teachable moment.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/democratic-strategist-calls-herman-cain-racist-bigoted-for-saying-blacks-have-been-brainwashed/




Cain: Name of Perry's Hunting Camp 'Insulting' to Blacks

October 02, 2011
Businessman Herman Cain on Sunday called it "insulting" that the family of Rick Perry owned a hunting camp with a racially charged name well into the 1980s and possibly even later.

According to a Washington Post article that appeared Sunday, the hunting camp owned by the Texas governor was branded with the name "N-----head." The word -- reportedly on a rock at the entrance of the 1,70-acre parcel -- has been painted over and the camp renamed.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/02/cain-tea-party-movement-pushed-black-candidate-to-top-gop-pack/#ixzz1ZeBt4A5k



Couple of things are interesting in on Cain dynamic and media role.

First, Cain is called a racist by a democrat strategist Obama supporter and next day Cain turns around and suggests Republican candidate Perry was a racist.

Second, if Can had employed stereotypes about other groups in America and said "he won't have any blacks in his administration because he didn't want any crimes in the white house" or "he won't have any jews in his administration because he didn't want anyone more loyal to a foreign state", would he be treated in media same way as he was after his comments about not having any muslims in his administration.

[Aratus]

herman cain just picked up the NFWR straw poll in missouri by almost 49%
and he is looking top tier the same way ron paul is after ames, nhyr and L.A
so if the white house is trucking out a hypothetical fall campaign early, are
we surprised that the pizza CEO is acting like a contender as he tries to shift
a focus onto rick perry? we need to rev up the campaign to compensate!!!

[moderate libertarian]

An idiot like Cain becoming a top tier contender in GOP campaign is the best possible thing that could happen for RP. But I highly doubt that Cain will get there.

[Aratus]

even though they seem lightyears apart in work history, i see alan keyes moments at times
when i am following herman cain in the news. this might be what a few of obama's honchos
are picking up on. it is possible to remain in the white house and have unemployment at 14%.
on the heels of the convention in missouri & the florida straw poll, herman cain has got to be
having a few john mccain thoughts on the brain. if mr guv*rick slips, can michele climb back in?

[Anti Federalist]

According to a Washington Post article that appeared Sunday, the hunting camp owned by the Texas governor was branded with the name "N-----head." The word -- reportedly on a rock at the entrance of the 1,70-acre parcel -- has been painted over and the camp renamed.

LoL - That was the common name for a large subsea rock or coral head.

An inverted capstan was also called a "n*ggerhead".

They are still called that amongst the old seafarers.

http://www.pacificmarine.net/images/capstan.jpg

http://www.btinternet.com/~lawrence.edwards/tallships/capstan.jpg

[moderate libertarian]

I think Cain is being an idiot again and a hypocrite.

"Cain: Perry camp sign 'just plain insensitive'"

It's a non-issue.

[Aratus]

Anti-Federalist--- the camp is inland, rick perry is a landlubber and the deft new left is about to make hay north of the mason-dixon line
on how much of a southern Democrat he was deep down. he evidently had a neat comfort zone in the 80s becuz he did not sandblast it.
he did not have national ambitions until after the W won re-election in 2004? ole LBJ would have sandblasted the rock at the risk of PO~ing
the local bigots. as i said, someone with senator robert byrd's quiet history and early years would be able to make political hay with this an' i
cannot slam herman cain at all for seizing on this with a merrie glee. rick perry is impulse driven and does not plan ahead. ban him from all nukes.

[emazur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtw1bMc4vdc

[moderate libertarian]

i
cannot slam herman cain at all for seizing on this with a merrie glee. rick perry is impulse driven and does not plan ahead. ban him from all nukes.

Perry is a loser and is already slipping, that is good news. But when a bigot like Cain raises question of bigotry, insensitivity from a democratic digup from two decades ago, he should and would be called upon it. I'm beginning to wonder if Cain has started to bat for Obama.

[Aratus]

do you all think herman cain is either a foil for the regal ambitions of mr. newt gingrich or just only a rarified
version of alan keyes so as to be chum for barack obama's yearned for vindication in november of 2012? if
he is being both at once and leftwing + rightwing fatcats have found him to be the cat's meow, then i do
declare he is quite the politician! i thought mr. cain was keeping ole newt's convention ambitions afloat if
only because of the rule change this year about states before april. our well traveled CEO is nobody's fool!

[Aratus]

LoL - That was the common name for a large subsea rock or coral head.

An inverted capstan was also called a "n*ggerhead".

They are still called that amongst the old seafarers.

http://www.pacificmarine.net/images/capstan.jpg

http://www.btinternet.com/~lawrence.edwards/tallships/capstan.jpg

admittedly...

[BlackTerrel]

LoL - That was the common name for a large subsea rock or coral head.

An inverted capstan was also called a "n*ggerhead".

They are still called that amongst the old seafarers.

I'm sure old seafarers have a lot of names. What is the origin of the word?

[Aratus]

ultimately latin? before spanish?

[Aratus]

the color black in latin is niger.

[BlackTerrel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nig*erhead


In several English-speaking countries, nig*erhead or nig*er head is a mostly no longer current name for several things thought to resemble a black person ("nig*er")'s head.

The term was once widely used for all sorts of things, including products such as soap and chewing tobacco, but most often for geographic features such as hills and rocks. In the U.S., more than hundred "******heads" and other place names now considered racially offensive were changed in 1962 by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, but many local names remained unchanged.[1]

Looks like most of them were changed in the 60's. Not sure why anyone here would defend Perry.

[acptulsa]

If I were Cain, I'd laugh at him for 'insinuating that I'm prejudiced against myself,' then say, 'But I did misstate my position. What I was trying to say is Democrats are brainwashed.'

Hope Cain and his staff don't bother to read this forum...

[MelissaWV]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nig*erhead



Looks like most of them were changed in the 60's. Not sure why anyone here would defend Perry.

I don't defend him. I think it's ridiculous... that he suddenly changed it.

He didn't change it before, and didn't have an issue with it. That's his right, imo. You could name your house "Casa de Cracker" if you wanted.

It's sad that this even comes up. Who cares? Is there NOT enough bad stuff about this guy, that people have to grasp at the race card?

[Aratus]

there is a hendricks home for children in west texas and they own the property.
if the paint washed away an' was whitewash repainted time after time, as he over
time became more powerful and influential, why did he not bring this up with the
people who run the charity, if he was a frequent leaser and becoming somebody?

[Anti Federalist]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nig*erhead

Looks like most of them were changed in the 60's. Not sure why anyone here would defend Perry.

Wiki has everything.

Not defending Perry at all, but I can think of plenty of substantial issues to attack him on, other than the 30 year name of a hunting camp.

A name for such thing as was in common usage, and still is in many places.

[moderate libertarian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nig*erhead



Looks like most of them were changed in the 60's. Not sure why anyone here would defend Perry.

No one is defending Perry ( he can be criticized for his religious racism laced views at other times http://theweek.com/article/index/219498/rick-perrys-israel-stance-a-gift-to-islamic-extremists), there are some historic explanations offered above that relate to this blame match.

Are you defending Cain's bigoted hypocricy? Would you defend him if Cain said he won't have any blacks in his cabinet for fear of high crime rate in the White House?

[Aratus]

http://www.hendrickhome.com/ the name may have been there when FDR ran against wendell willkie.
technically rick perry is not the owner of the property but he is known for throwing his weight around!!
he sometimes does not rock boats and goes with the flow, if we are being landlubber metaphoric on this.

[BlackTerrel]

I don't defend him. I think it's ridiculous... that he suddenly changed it.

He didn't change it before, and didn't have an issue with it. That's his right, imo. You could name your house "Casa de Cracker" if you wanted.

I could. But it would reveal a lot about me if I were to name it that.


Wiki has everything.

Not defending Perry at all, but I can think of plenty of substantial issues to attack him on, other than the 30 year name of a hunting camp.

A name for such thing as was in common usage, and still is in many places.

Lots of things are and were common - doesn't make them right.

[oyarde]

I could. But it would reveal a lot about me if I were to name it that.



Lots of things are and were common - doesn't make them right. Pretty much .