Twitter, Google blacking out OccupyWallStreet trends...

[Tod]

In the past 12 hours, there have been something like 9,500 tweets with the tag OccupyWallStreet, but it isn't listed in the trends...

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/09/29/trendsmap-proves-scary-twitter-censorship-occupywallstreet-trending-topics-72701/

Live streaming from NYC: http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

It does seem there is more diversity of political persuasion than I initially thought, although it does appear that the marxists are predominant.

[FrankRep]

Why is the live feed called: "Global Revolution" ?

[Tod]

good question....as near as I can tell, these people feel a kinship with some of the other demonstrations taking place around the world (based upon the tweets I've seen) and many of them appear to be opposed to "corporate greed" and in favor of socialism of one flavor or another, although not everyone, of course. Have seen R3volution signs in the style of Paul supporters...

It is unfortunate that the word "revolution" is popular with both marxists and paul supporters. Tends to muddy the waters, since the goals are different.

[acptulsa]

So, we have this wonderful new method of communication and free speech, and they're exercising just enough control over it to lie to us about what we're talking about.

Amusing irony in that...

[FrankRep]

good question....as near as I can tell, these people feel a kinship with some of the other demonstrations taking place around the world (based upon the tweets I've seen) and many of them appear to be opposed to "corporate greed" and in favor of socialism of one flavor or another, although not everyone, of course. Have seen R3volution signs in the style of Paul supporters...

It is unfortunate that the word "revolution" is popular with both marxists and paul supporters. Tends to muddy the waters, since the goals are different.

Unions, Socialists Join Forces to "Occupy Wall Street" (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9214-unions-socialists-join-forces-to-occupy-wall-street)



A growing number of unions and socialist groups are joining “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrations in New York and “solidarity” protests nationwide.

[LiveFree79]

My god...........and you wonder why nothing ever changes in this country. Listen to the few posts in this thread. Show me the Marxist signs. The Che signs. The I love Obama signs. Grow up! This is an opportunity for all of us to rise up against the corporate greed and banksters that are destroying our country and who have hijacked our Republic and all most idiots on the right including us Ron Paul supporters can do is cry "socialism" or left wing whackjobs. Nothing is perfect...........America is a mix of ideology.................THE ENEMY OF YOUR ENEMY IS YOUR FRIEND! Embrace that and let's support this movement. I'd say these hippies have done more in a week than most Ron Paul supporters and Tea Partiers have done in 4 years. Where are the Ron Paul supporters? Oh they must all be sitting in their underwear typing on the keyboard like all of us. Pathetic. The civil rights movement and Anti-Vietnam war movement were considered left wing movements were they not? But were they not inherently good for our country in the end? I mean aren't Ron Paul supporters supposed to be anti-war on terror? Seize this opportunity to lend support to Ron Paul and everything he stands for.

[Ireland4Liberty]

My god...........and you wonder why nothing ever changes in this country. Listen to the few posts in this thread. Show me the Marxist signs. The Che signs. The I love Obama signs. Grow up! This is an opportunity for all of us to rise up against the corporate greed and banksters that are destroying our country and who have hijacked our Republic and all most idiots on the right including us Ron Paul supporters can do is cry "socialism" or left wing whackjobs. Nothing is perfect...........America is a mix of ideology.................THE ENEMY OF YOUR ENEMY IS YOUR FRIEND! Embrace that and let's support this movement. I'd say these hippies have done more in a week than most Ron Paul supporters and Tea Partiers have done in 4 years. Where are the Ron Paul supporters? Oh they must all be sitting in their underwear typing on the keyboard like all of us. Pathetic. The civil rights movement and Anti-Vietnam war movement were considered left wing movements were they not? But were they not inherently good for our country in the end? I mean aren't Ron Paul supporters supposed to be anti-war on terror? Seize this opportunity to lend support to Ron Paul and everything he stands for.

I think most Ron Paul supporters are for a revolution if the right people are blamed for the crisis we are in and the correct solutions are sought.

[BlackTerrel]

Twitter trends are not based on who has the most volume but on sudden spikes.

#OccupyWallStreet will benefit more from claims of censorship than making the trends list.

[LiveFree79]

I think most Ron Paul supporters are for a revolution if the right people are blamed for the crisis we are in and the correct solutions are sought.



Oh please. What garbage. Just who is to blame then? Why aren't Ron Paul Supporters camped out in Ben Bernanke's and Tim Geithner's neighborhoods? Why aren't Ron Paul supporters putting together an Occupy The FED movement? Whether these are left leaning communist hippies or not.......they've got more balls and have made more noise than the last 8 years of Paulites and Tea Partiers. 700 of them arrested in one day. How many Paulites have been arrested in the past 4 years? LMAO!

Wait for it.......I'll probably be labeled as a troll now and banned for not actling like a Ron Paul sheeple.

[matt0611]

Oh please. What garbage. Just who is to blame then? Why aren't Ron Paul Supporters camped out in Ben Bernanke's and Tim Geithner's neighborhoods? Why aren't Ron Paul supporters putting together an Occupy The FED movement? Whether these are left leaning communist hippies or not.......they've got more balls and have made more noise than the last 8 years of Paulites and Tea Partiers. 700 of them arrested in one day. How many Paulites have been arrested in the past 4 years? LMAO!

Wait for it.......I'll probably be labeled as a troll now and banned for not actling like a Ron Paul sheeple.

Why would we camp out in Bernankes or Geithners neighborhood? Its not Ben Bernanke or Geitherner or Obama that are the problems, its the whole system, its the people not understanding how it works against them and how they are getting played and exploited by those that have the power.

Balls? These are just angry kids, mostly socialists, marxists who are raging against capitalism, "the machine" because they think "the people" need to takeover and tell the rest of the people how to live their lives.

And if they are blocking streets or disrupting order they deserve to get arrested, you don't have a right to disrupt other people's lives.

I won't have anything to do with these people.

What do you think we've been doing the last 5 years? No candidates would even talk about the Fed until Ron Paul and his supporters came along. Same goes with a dozen or so other issue Ron Paul talks about on a daily basis.

[Pizzo]

Oh please. What garbage. Just who is to blame then? Why aren't Ron Paul Supporters camped out in Ben Bernanke's and Tim Geithner's neighborhoods? Why aren't Ron Paul supporters putting together an Occupy The FED movement? Whether these are left leaning communist hippies or not.......they've got more balls and have made more noise than the last 8 years of Paulites and Tea Partiers. 700 of them arrested in one day. How many Paulites have been arrested in the past 4 years? LMAO!

Wait for it.......I'll probably be labeled as a troll now and banned for not actling like a Ron Paul sheeple.

Some of Ron's supporters are there trying to educate. Another reason is lots of us are campaigning, fundraising, etc trying to win an election so Ron can #OccupyTheWhiteHouse.

[wgadget]

Yes, it seems to me that the MSM WANTS us to think they're all Marxists. But why on earth do you think they're AVOIDING covering it? Probably because they're afraid we'd find out they're LYING again.

OccupyWallStreet could grow to be a huge force for the PTB to reckon with if Tea Party types join them.

[moderate libertarian]

A growing number of unions and socialist groups are joining “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrations in New York and “solidarity” protests nationwide.

Wall Street Hedge funds give Dem-GOP donations by 90%-!0% if I'm not mistaken. God's hand working mysteriously and bringing all kinds of people together for launch of American Spring along Tunisia/Arab Spring model?

[wgadget]

I just tweeted them a question to see if they accept Tea Party types. LOL I'll let you know the answer when I get a response.

[moderate libertarian]

I just tweeted them a question to see if they accept Tea Party types. LOL I'll let you know the answer when I get a response.

That is an extremely vague question, there are Tea Party types who support wars and foreign aid/occupations that WS profits from and there are Tea Party types who oppose interventions and killing of innocent civilians in foreign countries. There are Tea Partier who support torture, police state, extra judicial killing of US citizens and there are are Tep Partier who oppose it.

You should be more specific ideology wise.

[Tod]

My god...........and you wonder why nothing ever changes in this country. Listen to the few posts in this thread. Show me the Marxist signs. The Che signs. The I love Obama signs. Grow up! This is an opportunity for all of us to rise up against the corporate greed and banksters that are destroying our country and who have hijacked our Republic and all most idiots on the right including us Ron Paul supporters can do is cry "socialism" or left wing whackjobs. Nothing is perfect...........America is a mix of ideology.................THE ENEMY OF YOUR ENEMY IS YOUR FRIEND! Embrace that and let's support this movement. I'd say these hippies have done more in a week than most Ron Paul supporters and Tea Partiers have done in 4 years. Where are the Ron Paul supporters? Oh they must all be sitting in their underwear typing on the keyboard like all of us. Pathetic. The civil rights movement and Anti-Vietnam war movement were considered left wing movements were they not? But were they not inherently good for our country in the end? I mean aren't Ron Paul supporters supposed to be anti-war on terror? Seize this opportunity to lend support to Ron Paul and everything he stands for.


Here's one that is pretty common. Another is a little pale yellow sign on a stick for individuals that I saw a LOT of on the livestream. It is similarly anti-capitalism: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRB4L3X6sRJbRp2cqmXMa-TdZVepU2cZFfM8BchgGrFH8oXuSuZ

"The Enemy of your Enemy is Your Friend" was a philosophy used by the US as justification for deposing democratically elected leaders in favor of brutal dictators.

[moderate libertarian]

"The Enemy of your Enemy is Your Friend" was a philosophy used by the US as justification for deposing democratically elected leaders in favor of brutal dictators.

That was more true in the past but post 9/11 US has started to realize that cost from blowbacks is too huge. As a result there is a visible shift in that policy although not a complete shift so far.

[dannno]

I think most Ron Paul supporters are for a revolution if the right people are blamed for the crisis we are in and the correct solutions are sought.

Then, they are beating us, aren't they?

That's why we need to get out there and increase our numbers within their ranks.

[CaptainAmerica]

I wont help that "coup".

[silverhandorder]

Then, they are beating us, aren't they?

That's why we need to get out there and increase our numbers within their ranks.

If we could do that we would have taken over republican party by now. We have to face it while we are very organized and educated we are not in big numbers to do stuff like this. We can crash straw polls, we can phone back and canvas, we can do money bombs. What we can't do is put out people on the street to overwhelm the numbers of socialists and union members. So what it will look like is in totality that there are just even more socialists.

I have no problem with people going there and giving out fliers and bringing some posters. However anymore than that will either turn out ugly and socialists will start to fight us or it will look like we are part of them.

[LiveFree79]

Here's one that is pretty common. Another is a little pale yellow sign on a stick for individuals that I saw a LOT of on the livestream. It is similarly anti-capitalism: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRB4L3X6sRJbRp2cqmXMa-TdZVepU2cZFfM8BchgGrFH8oXuSuZ

"The Enemy of your Enemy is Your Friend" was a philosophy used by the US as justification for deposing democratically elected leaders in favor of brutal dictators.

haha "capitalism" as it exists in America is an utter failure. Look at our economy. Look at our country. Now if YOU want to argue we don't have a capitalistic economy then argue that. But the media, the politicians, and many others constantly cheerlead this so called "capitalistic" economy that really doesn't exist. So what do you expect these left leaning liberals to argue? If you and everyone else is saying we have a capitalistic economy and our economy is in the shitter. How is it not that capitalism is an utter failure? Do you understand what I'm saying or not? I agree with you..........we don't have capitalism...........we have corporate socialism or fascism. SO you AND The protesters are wrong. They are wrong because it's not capitalism that is failing us. And YOU are wrong because capitalism probably hasn't existed for 100 years.

And let's not be intellectually dishonest...........a free market does not mean capitalism and capitalism does not automatically mean a free market. You can have a completely capitalistic economy and that doesn't make it "free". Capitalism is just another tired old ideology that never existed save for a very few brief stints in history. I laugh at the morons that think they are "capitalists" because they own a few shares of stock in a few companies. That's not capitalism. We've all been brainwashed into believing Wallstreet represents capitalism. That's bullshit. Wallstreet is the epitome of corporate welfare doled out by the government. The banks which are funded by a private currency created beast called the FED props everything up. Hell if that is your idea of capitalism well then yes capitalism is an utter failure. And it is antithetical to freedom and liberty. SO which is it..........huh? Do we not have capitalism or is capitalism an utter failure? I''ll pose this question in another thread. Or is capitalism simply not bing allowed to function and operate properly?

[affa]

There are a ton of different ideologies out there, tons of different signs for different movements.

No single sign represents them. Period. No single ideology.

They are citizens.

If you are upset that your 'sign' is not represented, go out and join them. It is time, people.

Sitting at home grumbling about those engaged in peaceful assembly makes you no better than those who sit at home and grumble about any of our other protected rights.

Protesters always get portrayed as 'hippy'/'riff-raff' by the media. Don't let them convince you. This is how the people show themselves. This is how the grass roots manifests.

[TheCaliforniaLife]

Why would we camp out in Bernankes or Geithners neighborhood? Its not Ben Bernanke or Geitherner or Obama that are the problems, its the whole system, its the people not understanding how it works against them and how they are getting played and exploited by those that have the power.

Balls? These are just angry kids, mostly socialists, marxists who are raging against capitalism, "the machine" because they think "the people" need to takeover and tell the rest of the people how to live their lives.

And if they are blocking streets or disrupting order they deserve to get arrested, you don't have a right to disrupt other people's lives.

I won't have anything to do with these people.

What do you think we've been doing the last 5 years? No candidates would even talk about the Fed until Ron Paul and his supporters came along. Same goes with a dozen or so other issue Ron Paul talks about on a daily basis.

Imagine if we did get arrested like that! It would all over the news and they would just demonize us as violent radicals!

[moreliberty]

alex jones says march on the fed, show these guys what really needs done, we have more people than they do. This weekend

[TheCaliforniaLife]

Here is a better way to put it. For arguments sake, let's define capitalism as they define capitalism. Capitalism = Corporatism. Free-market capitalism = real capitalism. Capitalism has been perverted. The opposite of this capitalism shouldn't be socialism or another form of anti-capitalism. The opposite of capitalism should be free-market capitalism. We have had a capital based system, like corporatism allows, but the capital is distorted and manipulated by the government. Even though the elements of free-market capitalism, like the concept of capital and private ownership, do exist under corporatism, it still isn't the same as free-market capitalism. It is like having a bad headache and a doctor prescribes to you some prescription strength Tylenol and overdoses you on ipecac. Granted, your doctor cured your headache. However, the ipecac did no good! The Tylenol is the capital based system that does great for a society and for liberty. The ipecac is the big government Corporatism. Sure our society, like your headache, does reap the benefits of the cure. However, you are still being given something you should not have in the first place - ipecac or corporatism.

Sure, these people marching are misdirected. The liberal establishment wants people to think that free-market capitalism is corporatism. That is the furthest from the truth. Watch this kid get Micheal Moore to admit this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwQ41Yo60og

[Tod]

Here is a better way to put it. For arguments sake, let's define capitalism as they define capitalism. Capitalism = Corporatism. Free-market capitalism = real capitalism. Capitalism has been perverted. The opposite of this capitalism shouldn't be socialism or another form of anti-capitalism. The opposite of capitalism should be free-market capitalism. We have had a capital based system, like corporatism allows, but the capital is distorted and manipulated by the government. Even though the elements of free-market capitalism, like the concept of capital and private ownership, do exist under corporatism, it still isn't the same as free-market capitalism. It is like having a bad headache and a doctor prescribes to you some prescription strength Tylenol and overdoses you on ipecac. Granted, your doctor cured your headache. However, the ipecac did no good! The Tylenol is the capital based system that does great for a society and for liberty. The ipecac is the big government Corporatism. Sure our society, like your headache, does reap the benefits of the cure. However, you are still being given something you should not have in the first place - ipecac or corporatism.

Sure, these people marching are misdirected. The liberal establishment wants people to think that free-market capitalism is corporatism. That is the furthest from the truth. Watch this kid get Micheal Moore to admit this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwQ41Yo60og

+rep!

[GunnyFreedom]

I just tweeted them a question to see if they accept Tea Party types. LOL I'll let you know the answer when I get a response.

My G+ stream is choked with 99%-ers mocking all tea partiers, all small governmenters, all constitutionalists, and Ron Paul.

soooooo,

I'm guessing no.

However, I support..STRONGLY support the efforts of Paulers to go in and educate the 99%-ers. They sorely need it.

Most of the 99%-ers I encounter, that is on G+, are hard-core socialists. Demanding a $20/hr minimum wage, demanding free schooling for life, demanding a "living wage" for people who don't want to work at all....

It's not good. I try to do my part helping and educating, but there is one hell of a lot more of the 99%-ers mocking us for how we think than there are us mocking them.

If you doubt how I have characterized then 99%-ers, you should check out the latest Adam Kokesh video documenting their massive cognitive dissonance.

[GunnyFreedom]

If we could do that we would have taken over republican party by now. We have to face it while we are very organized and educated we are not in big numbers to do stuff like this. We can crash straw polls, we can phone back and canvas, we can do money bombs. What we can't do is put out people on the street to overwhelm the numbers of socialists and union members. So what it will look like is in totality that there are just even more socialists.

I have no problem with people going there and giving out fliers and bringing some posters. However anymore than that will either turn out ugly and socialists will start to fight us or it will look like we are part of them.

Actually, we have MORE than enough people to take over the GOP. The problem isn't organization OR numbers, it's apathy. Too many of us think it's more important to stay home and clip their toenails rather than go to the GOP conventions. It only takes about 500 people per State to completely take over the GOP. We have way, way more than that number.

[GunnyFreedom]

haha "capitalism" as it exists in America is an utter failure. Look at our economy. Look at our country. Now if YOU want to argue we don't have a capitalistic economy then argue that. But the media, the politicians, and many others constantly cheerlead this so called "capitalistic" economy that really doesn't exist. So what do you expect these left leaning liberals to argue? If you and everyone else is saying we have a capitalistic economy and our economy is in the shitter. How is it not that capitalism is an utter failure? Do you understand what I'm saying or not? I agree with you..........we don't have capitalism...........we have corporate socialism or fascism. SO you AND The protesters are wrong. They are wrong because it's not capitalism that is failing us. And YOU are wrong because capitalism probably hasn't existed for 100 years.

And let's not be intellectually dishonest...........a free market does not mean capitalism and capitalism does not automatically mean a free market. You can have a completely capitalistic economy and that doesn't make it "free". Capitalism is just another tired old ideology that never existed save for a very few brief stints in history. I laugh at the morons that think they are "capitalists" because they own a few shares of stock in a few companies. That's not capitalism. We've all been brainwashed into believing Wallstreet represents capitalism. That's bullshit. Wallstreet is the epitome of corporate welfare doled out by the government. The banks which are funded by a private currency created beast called the FED props everything up. Hell if that is your idea of capitalism well then yes capitalism is an utter failure. And it is antithetical to freedom and liberty. SO which is it..........huh? Do we not have capitalism or is capitalism an utter failure? I''ll pose this question in another thread. Or is capitalism simply not bing allowed to function and operate properly?

America is corporatist, not capitalist. That's an insanely huge difference.

[GunnyFreedom]

Here is a better way to put it. For arguments sake, let's define capitalism as they define capitalism. Capitalism = Corporatism. Free-market capitalism = real capitalism. Capitalism has been perverted. The opposite of this capitalism shouldn't be socialism or another form of anti-capitalism. The opposite of capitalism should be free-market capitalism. We have had a capital based system, like corporatism allows, but the capital is distorted and manipulated by the government. Even though the elements of free-market capitalism, like the concept of capital and private ownership, do exist under corporatism, it still isn't the same as free-market capitalism. It is like having a bad headache and a doctor prescribes to you some prescription strength Tylenol and overdoses you on ipecac. Granted, your doctor cured your headache. However, the ipecac did no good! The Tylenol is the capital based system that does great for a society and for liberty. The ipecac is the big government Corporatism. Sure our society, like your headache, does reap the benefits of the cure. However, you are still being given something you should not have in the first place - ipecac or corporatism.

Sure, these people marching are misdirected. The liberal establishment wants people to think that free-market capitalism is corporatism. That is the furthest from the truth. Watch this kid get Micheal Moore to admit this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwQ41Yo60og

Hey, I was just going to reference that in my last post but decided not to because I didn't have the link. Thanks!

[TheCaliforniaLife]

Hey, I was just going to reference that in my last post but decided not to because I didn't have the link. Thanks!

No problem :)

@Tod: Thanks for the rep!

[Becker]

Why is the live feed called: "Global Revolution" ?

it's just a damn account name. Nobody is stopping anybody else from providing an additional feed. most likely most people in the protest have no money, so whoever steps up to be the twitter guy, facebook guy, gets his own role in the game. that's what grassroots means.

[Becker]

we should be happy that the internet media guardians are censoring the communist revolution, right?

[FrankRep]

we should be happy that the internet media guardians are censoring the communist revolution, right?
Occupy Wall Street will get the spotlight and free publicity if it gets censored.

[Becker]

Occupy Wall Street will get the the spotlight and free publicity if it gets censored.

so we just can't win, huh?

[FrankRep]

so we just can't win, huh?
Occupy Wall Street reminds me of the Bolshevik Revolution (aka: October Revolution).

You better start studying history, Becker, before you start repeating it.


Want to know the dirty little secret about the Bolshevik Revolution? Click here (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?257412-Video-Antony-Sutton-Wall-Street-and-the-Bolshevik-Revolution)