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BarryDonegan
10-02-2011, 12:02 AM
I predict no Republican establishment candidate distinguishes him or herself from the other and we win. Meanwhile, Obamabots are standing outside a stock exchange demanding that it end wars their candidate continued or started all by himself.

Esoteric
10-02-2011, 02:10 AM
seriously, tough, we should occupy the capitol.

CaptainAmerica
10-02-2011, 02:19 AM
.. it depends on delegates.:rolleyes:

LibertyIn08
10-02-2011, 02:26 AM
Let me tell you, the abundance of Ron Paul avatars on the Occupy facebook pages is not doing us any favors amongst the Tea Party or General GOP. Just something to consider.

TheTexan
10-02-2011, 04:30 AM
Let me tell you, the abundance of Ron Paul avatars on the Occupy facebook pages is not doing us any favors amongst the Tea Party or General GOP. Just something to consider.

Point noted, but we shouldn't ever hide what we stand for.

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 06:11 AM
Point noted, but we shouldn't ever hide what we stand for.

We dont stand for ending capitalism.

Fr0m_3ur0pe
10-02-2011, 06:17 AM
Ron Paul don't want to occupy and end Wall Street. He wants to occupy White House and end the Fed.

Fed is the problem, not Wall Street!

KingNothing
10-02-2011, 06:53 AM
The #OccupyWallStreet crowd has a three-step process for saving America:

1.) Repeatedly say that the top 1-percent has all the wealth.

2.) ??????

3.) MONEY AND HAPPINESS FOR ALL! YIPPPEEEE! OH-BOM-AH! OH-BOM-AH!

69360
10-02-2011, 09:05 AM
If you guys are that mad about it, counter these people with RP supporters protesting at all the federal reserve banks all over the country. Apply for all the proper permits, everyone behave and DON'T GET ARRESTED. Get the word out that the fed is root of our economic problems.

This would do three important things, draw the RP supporters there away from that movement, keep RP's name from being associated with the anarchists, socialists etc and draw attention to the campaign.

LibertyIn08
10-02-2011, 09:08 AM
Point noted, but we shouldn't ever hide what we stand for.

When a Ron Paul photo is in the same thread as individuals calling for the murder of Goldman Sachs executives (no matter how bad those people may be) the mutual association of the words and that picture can often be difficult to overcome.

I'm not asking anyone to abandon their principles but to be prudent in whom they associate with during the campaign. If you want to join the protests, feel free to - but perhaps keep it separate from your Ron Paul activism if at all possible. If not, then fine. But I don't think it'll help with the voters we need to be converting at this stage of the election.

moreliberty
10-02-2011, 09:16 AM
I agree with not supporting there effort to end capitalism. But you guys just dismiss it like all the other brainwashed. What the hell. We should be standing for everyones right to protest. I have seen youtube video's of tea party people saying they don't agree with these guys but support there right to assemble. And I agree with us occupying another place, like the fed, or somewhere different, spread our message of Liberty, free markets, the constitution.

moreliberty
10-02-2011, 09:17 AM
Also this whole move to align ourselves with the GOP so we can get the nomination is against what most of us stand for. We must stand up straight and say what we mean. Fall into the mainstream to much and our message gets diluted.

69360
10-02-2011, 09:22 AM
Also this whole move to align ourselves with the GOP so we can get the nomination is against what most of us stand for. We must stand up straight and say what we mean. Fall into the mainstream to much and our message gets diluted.

Our views are becoming mainstream in the GOP. This is a good thing, embrace it.

Jingles
10-02-2011, 09:31 AM
All occupy wallstreet is is pretty much yelling at the leaves of the tree and asking the caretaker to rip a few off.

We want to rip out the tree from the roots (the fed).

The leftists/socialists see the same problems as we do, but they draw completely wrong/different conclusions. Michael Moore sums it up. They complain about corporatism, but instead of ending corporatism they want to cede business to be completely controlled by government. "WE HATE MONOPOLIES SO LET'S MAKE IT A MONOPOLY THAT ALSO HAS A MONOPOLY ON VIOLENCE AND COERCION!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVR9Nv43J4&feature=feedu This about sums up the "Occupy" movement. I think we should just let them be. You aren't going to convince "social democrats" that any initiation of force is wrong. They believe its okay as long as they get money.

musicmax
10-02-2011, 09:49 AM
We dont stand for ending capitalism.

Capitalism ended in 1913.

LibertyIn08
10-02-2011, 09:49 AM
I agree with not supporting there effort to end capitalism. But you guys just dismiss it like all the other brainwashed. What the hell. We should be standing for everyones right to protest. I have seen youtube video's of tea party people saying they don't agree with these guys but support there right to assemble. And I agree with us occupying another place, like the fed, or somewhere different, spread our message of Liberty, free markets, the constitution.

Nobody said that they shouldn't have the right to protest.


Also this whole move to align ourselves with the GOP so we can get the nomination is against what most of us stand for. We must stand up straight and say what we mean. Fall into the mainstream to much and our message gets diluted.

Nobody said anyone should change their views for alignment purposes.

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 09:59 AM
I agree with not supporting there effort to end capitalism. But you guys just dismiss it like all the other brainwashed. What the hell. We should be standing for everyones right to protest. I have seen youtube video's of tea party people saying they don't agree with these guys but support there right to assemble. And I agree with us occupying another place, like the fed, or somewhere different, spread our message of Liberty, free markets, the constitution.

So now we are brainwashed because we don't agree with them?

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 10:00 AM
Also this whole move to align ourselves with the GOP so we can get the nomination is against what most of us stand for. We must stand up straight and say what we mean. Fall into the mainstream to much and our message gets diluted.

Then you don't understand what conservatism is.

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 10:01 AM
Capitalism ended in 1913.

Touche.

LibertyIn08
10-02-2011, 10:06 AM
So now we are brainwashed because we don't agree with them?

Poorly worded but I don't think that is what he meant.

moreliberty
10-02-2011, 10:08 AM
Nobody said that they shouldn't have the right to protest.



Nobody said anyone should change their views for alignment purposes.

yes people have said don't support these guys, even called them names because they are socialists.
and maybe not change your view, just don't express it till the primary is over right?

moreliberty
10-02-2011, 10:12 AM
Poorly worded but I don't think that is what he meant.

your right, poorly worded, just frustrated that some on here are calling them names and saying they are stupid, its just pointless, they are just frustrated americans who falsly believe in socialism, but i feel for many of them.

LibertyIn08
10-02-2011, 10:19 AM
yes people have said don't support these guys, even called them names because they are socialists.
and maybe not change your view, just don't express it till the primary is over right?

The main suggestion is to not bring Ron's campaign into it. Feel free to engage in OWS protests but try to keep it a separate activity from presidential activism.

KingNothing
10-02-2011, 10:23 AM
I agree with not supporting there effort to end capitalism. But you guys just dismiss it like all the other brainwashed. What the hell. We should be standing for everyones right to protest. I have seen youtube video's of tea party people saying they don't agree with these guys but support there right to assemble. And I agree with us occupying another place, like the fed, or somewhere different, spread our message of Liberty, free markets, the constitution.

I stand for their right to protest peacefully, but I also stand for my belief that they are absolutely stupid, protesting the wrong things, and extremely annoying.

KingNothing
10-02-2011, 10:28 AM
All occupy wallstreet is is pretty much yelling at the leaves of the tree and asking the caretaker to rip a few off.

We want to rip out the tree from the roots (the fed).

The leftists/socialists see the same problems as we do, but they draw completely wrong/different conclusions. Michael Moore sums it up. They complain about corporatism, but instead of ending corporatism they want to cede business to be completely controlled by government. "WE HATE MONOPOLIES SO LET'S MAKE IT A MONOPOLY THAT ALSO HAS A MONOPOLY ON VIOLENCE AND COERCION!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFVR9Nv43J4&feature=feedu This about sums up the "Occupy" movement. I think we should just let them be. You aren't going to convince "social democrats" that any initiation of force is wrong. They believe its okay as long as they get money.


That video is tremendous. These people are hopeless.

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 10:31 AM
your right, poorly worded, just frustrated that some on here are calling them names and saying they are stupid, its just pointless, they are just frustrated americans who falsly believe in socialism, but i feel for many of them.

I can agree with this. I wish we could sit down with every single one of them and explain what is really going on and how it can be fixed.

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 10:33 AM
That video is tremendous. These people are hopeless.

Probably hopeless. Definitely protesting the wrong thing. But most of us started out believing in the wrong thing as well.

Texan4Life
10-02-2011, 10:47 AM
Ron Paul don't want to occupy and end Wall Street. He wants to occupy White House and end the Fed.

Fed is the problem, not Wall Street!

win!

TheTexan
10-02-2011, 01:18 PM
We dont stand for ending capitalism.

I'm sure not *everybody* there wants to end capitalism. :)

Right...? Hopefully. LOL.

oboym
10-02-2011, 01:32 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?319943-Occupy-Wall-Street-RON-PAUL-gets-credit-in-this-RT-piece-for-the-Awakening

febo
10-02-2011, 02:00 PM
I don't understand this thread.
Any RP supporter should be delighted with this movement - RP helped lay the foundation for it.
It is pure hairsplitting to say its not Wall St its the Fed that's the problem - cmon, OccupyWallSt is essential an anti-crony-capitalism thing, and also note thay in Boston they did taget the Fed.
The Ron Paul movement must welcome OccupyWallSt with open arms!

Matthew5
10-02-2011, 02:10 PM
cmon, OccupyWallSt is essential an anti-capitalism thing

Fixed it for ya. ;)

febo
10-02-2011, 02:23 PM
Fixed it for ya. ;)

Eh?

Read my lips

OccupyWallSt is essentially an anti-crony-capitalism thing

It is therefore Ron Paul APPROVED

oboym
10-02-2011, 02:31 PM
Ron Paul Message to Occupy Wall Street- LETS END THE FED!

this video has 18,188 views Uploaded by LibertyMediaNetwork on Sep 29, 2011

time to start teaching


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka1ym7S3F3w

jason43
10-02-2011, 02:40 PM
These people fail to understand the difference between cronyism, corporatism, and capitalism. They dont get that the problem is that the gov is in bed with the corporations and banks and that the 'regulations' protect them and hurt the little guy.

I also find it ironic that they are out there supporting Obama and getting arrested by the government he is running. lulz

Most of them are kids in college who have no idea how the system works. They just know its not working for them.

febo
10-02-2011, 02:53 PM
These people fail to understand the difference between cronyism, corporatism, and capitalism. They dont get that the problem is that the gov is in bed with the corporations and banks and that the 'regulations' protect them and hurt the little guy.

I also find it ironic that they are out there supporting Obama and getting arrested by the government he is running. lulz

Most of them are kids in college who have no idea how the system works. They just know its not working for them.

Don't be so condescending!
The main thing is, "these people" are waking up and are on the right path. I'm sure Ron Paul realises this.

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 05:28 PM
I'm sure not *everybody* there wants to end capitalism. :)

Right...? Hopefully. LOL.

Lol *crosses fingers*

John F Kennedy III
10-02-2011, 05:29 PM
I don't understand this thread.
Any RP supporter should be delighted with this movement - RP helped lay the foundation for it.
It is pure hairsplitting to say its not Wall St its the Fed that's the problem - cmon, OccupyWallSt is essential an anti-crony-capitalism thing, and also note thay in Boston they did taget the Fed.
The Ron Paul movement must welcome OccupyWallSt with open arms!

Ron did not lay the foundation for ending capitalism

ZanZibar
10-04-2011, 02:05 PM
Ron Paul on the Occupy Wall Street protest - a blog by Doug Wead, Sr Adviser to the Ron Paul 2012 Campaign:
http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/ron-paul-and-the-occupy-wall-street-protest/




Ron Paul discusses it with Reason Magazine:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/01/ron-paul-talks-about-the-occup



And Jack Hunter discusses it on Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3kcxARJ1YzQ