Bill Maher says Ron Paul has balls

[pulp8721]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-on-obama-he-doesnt-look-like-the-adult-in-the-room-he-looks-like-the-substitute-teacher/

@1:40, usual "I disagree with him on so much, but respect him" crap he does whenever he brings him up. Maher and panel agree that it's a grey area, and it probably had to be done :(

[LisaNY]

Yeah it's a "grey area" when a Democrat does it, but you better believe they'd all be shitting themselves if a Republican president ordered the hit of an American citizen without due process. These fucking liberal phonies really piss me off!

[Carehn]

I hate Bill Maher. I just hate him. The worst person on T.V. just under Bill O'relly.

I hate people named Bill on T.V.

[axiomata]

I hate Bill Maher. I just hate him. The worst person on T.V. just under Bill O'relly.

I hate people named Bill on T.V.

Cosby asks you to take that back.

[Anti Federalist]

I hate Bill Maher. I just hate him. The worst person on T.V. just under Bill O'relly.

Makes sense.

They are just mirror images of each other, both playing their roles for millions of dollars a year.

[reillym]

Makes sense.

They are just mirror images of each other, both playing their roles for millions of dollars a year.

The intelligence of a single guest on Maher's show is greater than the combined intelligence of most of OReilly's. They are not the same. Maher brings Neil Degrasse Tyson on and debates science. OReilly brings Teabaggers on and calls Obama a socialist muslim.

Not even close.

[heavenlyboy34]

The intelligence of a single guest on Maher's show is greater than the combined intelligence of most of OReilly's. They are not the same. Maher brings Neil Degrasse Tyson on and debates science. OReilly brings Teabaggers on and calls Obama a socialist muslim.

Not even close.
Have to agree there. Maher tends to be a partisan hack at times, but at least he can think for himself and does things other than tow a party line. He also has the ability to let people he disagrees with speak. If I listen to O'Reily too long, I feel like I'm slowly losing IQ points.

[Inkblots]

Salman Rushdie says al-Awlaki committed treason, so he forfeited his rights as a citizen. Maher agrees - "the penalty for treason is death" - and the crowd applauds wildly.

Well, how is one found to be guilty of treason? The Constitution says this:


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


Even if the punishment for treason was forfeiture of citizenship and the rights thereunto appertaining, that forfeiture cannot occur unless the citizen is found guilty. Treason isn't some extra-constitutional exercise - the criteria for establishing it are clearly laid out within the Constitution itself! And these fools speak as if they have any conception of what the law of the land is, when in fact they believe the law solely to consist of that which they wish to see happen. And the greater fools in the audience listen, and applaud.

Sickening.

[heavenlyboy34]

Salman Rushdie says al-Awlaki committed treason, so he forfeited his rights as a citizen. Maher agrees - "the penalty for treason is death" - and the crowd applauds wildly.

Well, how is one found to be guilty of treason? The Constitution says this:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


Even if the punishment for treason was forfeiture of citizenship and the rights thereunto appertaining, that forfeiture cannot occur unless the citizen is found guilty. Treason isn't some extra-constitutional exercise - the criteria for establishing it are clearly laid out within the Constitution itself! And these fools speak as if they have any conception of what the law of the land is, when in fact they believe the law solely to consist of that which they wish to see happen. And the greater fools in the audience listen, and applaud.

Sickening.
Silly mundane. Don't you know the Constitution sometimes needs to be ignored to save yer freedomz? ;) /sarcasm

[ronpaulitician]

Maher allowed me to see Paul in person for the first time. Hard to be mad at him.

[V-rod]

Ron Paul was Maher's token in 2007 to make the GOP look nuts with their hawkish stances. He couldn't care less about constitutional conservatism.

[Carehn]

Little nuggets of truth or an honest debate now and then does not negate how bad the rest of his show is.

They have 5 like minded people on his show at all times and one of them will spout a fallacy, they all agree that it is a concrete axiom and build some kind of sick 5 minute philosophy off of it and then every one in the crowd cheers and claps before going back to their DMV job.

His show suck. Just watch the one posted in this thread.

AF is right. His is the Bill O'riely of the left.

[sailingaway]

Silly mundane. Don't you know the Constitution sometimes needs to be ignored to save yer freedomz? ;) /sarcasm

the penalty for a lot of things is death. Does that mean we should just assume people did those things and kill them without proving it?

[donnay]

Maher is just a tool...to continue this psychological war on your minds. Not to mention, Maher hates Americans...and has a low tolerance for Americans. My question is, why hasn't he moved?

He touts to everyone he is a libertarian--yet disagrees with Dr. Paul on mostly all things? Legalizing Pot he applauds Dr. Paul. C'mon folks--snap out of it!

Mind game tug-of-war!

How can anyone respect a person who thinks you are an idiot?

Edit to add:

"Bill Maher says Ron Paul has balls"

That's because Maher has none.

[libertyjam]

An attempt at a short essay, please be kind.

Do we have a President or a King?

Only a King has the power to issue Death Warrants, or set the punishment of one of his subjects decided by his whim. Clearly stated above in the Constitution only the Congress can set the punishment of a traitor, if one is declared such, and only in open Court can such a determination of treason be made, and only with two or more witnesses to an Overt Act. So clearly nowhere is the president or the executive involved in this determination, so the ability to make death lists is not a power ascribed to a sitting president. This goes to the core of the principles on which this nation was built. One of the key motivations for the establishment of the Constitution was the abolishment of Kings, Royalty, and Titles of Nobility. The power of one man to issue a Decree of Death is only held by Kings or synonymously Dictators, known of old as Death Warrants. Ipso Facto, we have now a president who has taken on the mantle of a King, which consequently makes each every one else his subjects. How do you like being a Subject to a King now?

Yesterday I had a brief conversation on twitter with a pretty well known personality, one that that went like this:
him: To #RINORonPaul-istinians: How better could al Awlaki have been eliminated from the battlefield, if not as 'neocon' ☮bama ordered? ~ #NUTS!
me: Legally would be nice.
him: At what cost?
me: What is the cost of allowing presidential unilateral non-reviewed execution powers?
him: UR evasion noted, answer the question
me: You simply wish to avoid the cost of due process, clearly no president should have that power.

At which point he did not reply, and deleted his responses to me, so I don't think I convinced him but maybe got him to think a little.

[Imaginos]

Maher is, at least, better than OReilly because he respects Dr. Paul and treated him with respect.
Have you forgotten how OReilly treated Dr. Paul?

[vita3]

Maher is the hip, pot smoking free lovin Jewish political guy on HBO.

[kylejack]

Seth MacFarlane's comments were pretty good, sort of coming aware of the importance of rights.

[Voluntary Man]

Salman Rushdie says al-Awlaki committed treason, so he forfeited his rights as a citizen. Maher agrees - "the penalty for treason is death" - and the crowd applauds wildly.

Well, how is one found to be guilty of treason? The Constitution says this:


Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


Even if the punishment for treason was forfeiture of citizenship and the rights thereunto appertaining, that forfeiture cannot occur unless the citizen is found guilty. Treason isn't some extra-constitutional exercise - the criteria for establishing it are clearly laid out within the Constitution itself! And these fools speak as if they have any conception of what the law of the land is, when in fact they believe the law solely to consist of that which they wish to see happen. And the greater fools in the audience listen, and applaud.

Sickening.

EXACTLY!

we should, at least, convict our citizens before allowing our government to execute them.

can we say, "slippery slope"?

[anaconda]

That Seth Macfarlane dude spelled it out quite well. Only if he would have been more adamant. Rushdie is flat out incorrect. You are innocent of treason until proven guilty (and this guy is supposed to be some intellectual?).

[wannaberocker]

Of course Ron Paul has balls. Thats because Ron Paul is not like most people Bill Maher picks on. Bill Maher is a leftist bully who picks on weak and uninformed republicans who cant answer him back. But Bill Maher will never pick on anyone like Ron Paul because he knows that RP can make him look like a fool with facts.

[heavenlyboy34]

the penalty for a lot of things is death. Does that mean we should just assume people did those things and kill them without proving it?
Nope. I was kidding-hence the /sarcasm tag.

[kylejack]

That Seth Macfarlane dude spelled it out quite well. Only if he would have been more adamant. Rushdie is flat out incorrect. You are innocent of treason until proven guilty (and this guy is supposed to be some intellectual?).
Rushdie used to have a fatwa on his head, so he's probably blinded by that.

[Agorism]

Maher had more Obama sycophants on his show who agreed that Obama had to murder the guy?

Why doesn't he get a real liberal on the show rather than hacks?