I'm non-American, but here's how I want to help...

[ventron]

I hope everyone is having fun PUSHing :cool:

I love Ron Paul's message and believe the whole world could learn from it. Unfortunately since I'm not from the US I can't donate or ask someone to donate on my behalf. But I have $50 burning in my pocket that I want to put to good use.
So, the first person to donate $50 to the EoQ PUSH and replies in this thread, I will donate my $50 to a charity of their choice (provided Australians can donate to it!)

Any takers? :D

(I wish I had more money to spare but I only have $50...)

[sailingaway]

What a great idea! [edit --IF ok w/ FEC, see below!!]

You might want to put this in the matching thread, in case people go there to look for matches.

Non-Americans can also spread the word of the End of Quarter push on twitter and youtube comments, or news comments..... :D

[jordie]

Where in Australia are you from? I'm in Sydney.

[JamesButabi]

Can't outsiders donate to RevolutionPAC? If so, wouldn't that be swell to have BlackThisOut coincide with an outside the US bomb to RevPac?

[ventron]

Where in Australia are you from? I'm in Sydney.

Brisbane.


Can't outsiders donate to RevolutionPAC? If so, wouldn't that be swell to have BlackThisOut coincide with an outside the US bomb to RevPac?

No we can't.

[sailingaway]

No, I'm pretty sure only domestic subsidiaries of foreign companies can donate, as far as 'foreigners' go, even to SuperPacs.

[jordie]

Can't outsiders donate to RevolutionPAC? If so, wouldn't that be swell to have BlackThisOut coincide with an outside the US bomb to RevPac?

Nope, PACs and SuperPACs are for Americans only. Foreigners are not allowed to donate to any political activity in the United States. Imagine if China or Russia could just pump millions or billions into a SuperPAC...

[LinuxJedi]

There are other causes, such as water bottles for protesters, stickers, site maintenance, and so on that could be funded... I think it could be a good idea to find a way to tap into international support without violating any rules, and without having a penny go to the campaign or PAC.

[eduardo89]

No, I'm pretty sure only domestic subsidiaries of foreign companies can donate, as far as 'foreigners' go, even to SuperPacs.Hmmm, maybe I should set up a shell company in the US. Well actually i probably shouldn't as I'm sure setting up a company for the sole purpose of donating is illegal.

Does the SuperPAC have to disclose donors to the FEC?

[RonPaulCult]

No, I'm pretty sure only domestic subsidiaries of foreign companies can donate, as far as 'foreigners' go, even to SuperPacs.

Non-citizen US permanent residents (legal immigrants) can donate

[sailingaway]

There are other causes, such as water bottles for protesters, stickers, site maintenance, and so on that could be funded... I think it could be a good idea to find a way to tap into international support without violating any rules, and without having a penny go to the campaign or PAC.

they might be able to help chip ins for things like Gage going to the Value Voter Summit to take pictures all supporters use in media, and sending others who want to go and vote for Ron but can't afford to. That sort of thing. I'm not sure about all the rules, to be honest.

[sailingaway]

Non-citizen US permanent residents (legal immigrants) can donate

You're right, sorry, I had read that somewhere, too.

[BuffsForPaul]

deleted

[harikaried]

Why not buy non-campaign flyers and yard signs for people who donate? You should be able to ship to them directly:

http://ronpauldesigns.com
http://ronpaulswag.com
http://ronpaulproducts.com

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Non-Americans can donate to grassroots projects.

[erowe1]

Why not buy non-campaign flyers and yard signs for people who donate? You should be able to ship to them directly:

http://ronpauldesigns.com
http://ronpaulswag.com
http://ronpaulproducts.com

I think that not giving any kind of compensation to the people who donate is essential.

I assume the charity idea is ok.

[Expose The Foes]

can u purchase t-shirts or other things from the campaign store? that money goes toward the donations

[erowe1]

can u purchase t-shirts or other things from the campaign store? that money goes toward the donations

No.

[Tarzan]

I hope everyone is having fun PUSHing :cool:

I love Ron Paul's message and believe the whole world could learn from it. Unfortunately since I'm not from the US I can't donate or ask someone to donate on my behalf. But I have $50 burning in my pocket that I want to put to good use.
So, the first person to donate $50 to the EoQ PUSH and replies in this thread, I will donate my $50 to a charity of their choice (provided Australians can donate to it!)

Legally, you can't do this type of trade either. You can, however, donate to anyone you wish.
Gage has been mentioned... good choice
RonPaulHawaii is another good choice.
Other grassroots projects are out there (choose wisely)

Eliminates any complications and collusion (the last bit is the illegal part).

[InTradePro]

I hope everyone is having fun PUSHing :cool:

I love Ron Paul's message and believe the whole world could learn from it. Unfortunately since I'm not from the US I can't donate or ask someone to donate on my behalf. But I have $50 burning in my pocket that I want to put to good use.
So, the first person to donate $50 to the EoQ PUSH and replies in this thread, I will donate my $50 to a charity of their choice (provided Australians can donate to it!)

Any takers? :D

(I wish I had more money to spare but I only have $50...)

Why don't you advertise on the internet?

[erowe1]

Why don't you advertise on the internet?

That's an interesting idea. I think non-US citizens could buy their own Facebook ads, etc., independently.

Don't take my word for it though.

[angelatc]

I think that not giving any kind of compensation to the people who donate is essential.

I assume the charity idea is ok.

I don't like it. It seems a gray area to me, but in the end the citizen is indeed getting something of value, albeit indirectly, in exchange for the donation, in that he/or/she is getting a donation to a charity.

Someone could call the FEC and ask them.....(800) 424-9530

[erowe1]

I don't like it. It seems a gray area to me, but in the end the citizen is indeed getting something of value, albeit indirectly, in exchange for the donation, in that he/or/she is getting a donation to a charity.

Someone could call the FEC and ask them.....(800) 424-9530

I just called. The person I asked didn't say it was illegal. She recited back to me some guidelines that clearly didn't include this sort of arrangement. Then she said the test she would apply is to ask yourself, "Is this the kind of thing that would reflect poorly on the candidate if it were reported in the newspaper?".

[sailingaway]

I just called. The person I asked didn't say it was illegal. She recited back to me some guidelines that clearly didn't include this sort of arrangement. Then she said the test she would apply is to ask yourself, "Is this the kind of thing that would reflect poorly on the candidate if it were reported in the newspaper?".

lol!

Well, that's a practical standard, actually.

[erowe1]

Well, here's my donation. I was going to make it anyway and I don't expect any tit for tat.

But if anybody wants to donate to a good charity, the Independent Institute (http://independent.org/membership/) is a good one that overlaps a lot with the ideas of Ron Paul.


Thank you!

Thank you for your generous donation!
Amount: $75.00
Transaction ID: 311005981
Transaction date/time: 2011-09-30 10:55:06

[Tarzan]

You can do more by contributing to supporters with a proven record.
Two that come to mind are ronpaulhawaii and gage.

http://www.maresco.us/support
Gage has occasional chip-ins to support his trips to take photos of Ron Paul and make them available for grassroots projects

You could also contact other non-US supporters to do the same.
Make sure you pick something worthwhile... not all chip-in projects deserve your support

[Invi]

If I were in your position, I'd just donate to grassroots projects.
As others mentioned, sending photographers like Gage to events is one good idea. His photos are great, and used in a lot of ways. I'm sure there are other things happening at the moment.

[Koz]

I was thinking the same thing.

[eduardo89]

Say a cashiers cheque (or cash) for $10,000 arrived in the mail to RevPAC, with no return address or name or anything on it. What would they do?

[sailingaway]

Say a cashiers cheque (or cash) for $10,000 arrived in the mail to RevPAC, with no return address or name or anything on it. What would they do?

buy a car?

kidding, I don't even know RevPac, but there is something to be said for the idea that if they are willing to wink at one law they might be willing to wink at another.

[eduardo89]

buy a car?

kidding, I don't even know RevPac, but there is something to be said for the idea that if they are willing to wink at one law they might be willing to wink at another.

i have no idea what that means lol

[idiom]

Best thing you can do is phone banking.

[Lets_Race]

Non-American financial support to the Ron Paul 2012 campaign is best served through chip-ins to grassroots events. Here are the two largest chip-in sites for Ron Paul 2012:
http://rp12.com/cic/
http://www.iowaforronpaul.com/projects

Thank you for your support!

[eduardo89]

Non-American financial support to the Ron Paul 2012 campaign is best served through chip-ins to grassroots events. Here are the two largest chip-in sites for Ron Paul 2012:
http://rp12.com/cic/
http://www.iowaforronpaul.com/projects

Thank you for your support!

That second one is part of the official campaign. Foreigners cannot donate.