Occupy Wall Street? A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing - yeoman's work by Eric Odom

[Cowlesy]

http://libertynews.com/2011/09/18/occupy-wall-street-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/

For all of you clamoring for Ron Paul to join the Occupy Wall Street folks, I think you should read this article. Eric Odom has done some excellent background research on the actors/players in this production.

I'll post a bit of it, but you can read the rest at the link here (http://libertynews.com/2011/09/18/occupy-wall-street-a-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/)


We asked our Facebook fans about possible stories this weekend and found a few of our readers curious about the “Occupy Wall Street” protest happening in New York. One reader asked that we help give the story some attention due to an alleged “media black-out,” while another reader suggested we publish evidence showing the protest was not tea party movement driven and had an underlying agenda.

For those who haven’t heard of the event, Occupy Wall Street is a supposedly grassroots organized, “freedom” driven project aimed at coordinated mass protests against big money special interests. These protests are organized in a manner that allows organizers to spread a narrative they they’re looking out for individual liberty and self-governance vs corporate controlled power brokering.

In reality, according to our findings, the Occupy Wall Street effort is an extension of a much larger, much better coordinated radical leftist global agenda. The agenda, as can be seen in the findings further down this story, appears to be entrenched in a desire to fuel global economic disturbance and instability. Furthermore, when we look into the “players” behind “networked” organizations involved, we find a larger effort hell-bent on global unrest and class warfare.

In fact, the Occupy Wall Street event is a front project for a global socialist/progressive network seeking a unified global system of governance.

First, let’s look at the Wall Street protest. The Occupy Wall Street protest appears to be a part of the “Day of Rage” campaign put together by a global network of “progressive” organizations. According to news reports, about 5,000 gathered in New York City over the weekend.

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Anyway, wall street isn't the problem. Fascism is the problem. I think Paul is smart enough to stay out of that, but those people have a right to protest wherever they want, not in some "protest zone" or other bullshit like that.

[Carole]

Dr. Paul never associates himself with groups, not even the Tea Party, not even this forum.

No entangling alliances. :D

[Cowlesy]

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[Nirvikalpa]

If one man says it, it must be true? The truth of the matter really is that there are a crap-ton of protests going on at once. There are stop the fed signs, anarchist signs, socialist signs, eff the fascists signs, end the war signs, hands off "____" signs... etc, etc.

Everyone has their own agenda.

this statement: "First, let’s look at the Wall Street protest. The Occupy Wall Street protest appears to be a part of the “Day of Rage” campaign put together by a global network of “progressive” organizations. According to news reports, about 5,000 gathered in New York City over the weekend."

^ enough to completely disqualify any word he said. "progressive" organizations? lulz.

[Agorism]

I don't really support that thing, but I'm fine with people covering\supporting civil rights violations during it.

[acptulsa]

Yeah, well, whoever is behind it isn't in the middle of it.

We know they're interested in global governance and don't mind using economic and civil unrest to achieve it. The real question is, can we continue to redirect the disgust with this engineered-from-the-top 'economic and civil unrest' to create a rebirth for self-governance?

[Nirvikalpa]

ron paul sign/bank bailout sign at the protest: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ketekete/6182855636/

[FrankRep]

80 ‘Days of Rage’ Protesters Arrested Saturday, Accuse Police of ‘Exceedingly Violent’ Response (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/police-80-days-of-rage-protesters-arrested-saturday/)

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/occupy-wall-st-arrest-wnyc1.jpg

[Agorism]

I never knew Capitalism was a marxist term until recently.

I just use Freemarket now.

[wormyguy]

From their website:

At 10 a.m. yesterday morning, activists involved in #OCCUPYWALLSTREET paid a visit to a Sotheby's art auction. Last year Sotheby's made record profits, enough so that their CEO Bill Rupprecht awarded himself a 125 percent raise. At the same time the company decided to use union-busting tactics, demanding over 100 concessions to the IBT 814 Art Handlers Union Contract. With their unionized workforce currently on lockout, Sotheby's continues to operate using scabs and a non-union subcontractor and wants all new hires to have no collective bargaining rights, no health benefits and no job security.

Today's auction was held on the seventh floor of Sotheby's Upper East Side auction house—a sterile atmosphere, ripe with the stench of expensive perfume. The activists staggered their entrances and planted themselves in the crowd of businessmen and women, all gathered to witness the sale of artwork, with prices ranging from the average salary of a working American to the average cost of an American home. The first of the activists took the room by surprise, disrupting the auction and announcing that “Sotheby's made $680 million dollars last year but then they kicked their art handlers out on the street!”

While making a call for security, the auctioneer read a prepared statement kept on her podium for just this sort of demonstration. “Thank you for your patience, ladies and gentlemen,” she said, “I hope that is the last interruption we have today.”

However, nine surprise demonstrations disrupted the two-hour auction. One protestor shouted “This is disgusting! Art is about truth.” Another, in sunglasses and a "Greed Kills" T-shirt attested that the “greed in this building is a direct example of the corporate greed that has ruined our economy.” The #OCCUPYWALLSTREET activists were there to show solidarity with the art handlers in their struggle for worker's rights and to warn of a coming increase in direct protests against the top 1 percent of New York City's economic food chain.

“In addition to auctioning off these fine pieces of artwork,” said Mary Clinton, one of the demonstrators, “today Sotheby's is auctioning off the American dream.”

All nine were escorted from the premise by security, shouting, “End the lockout!” and “Occupy Wall Street!” Sotheby's auctions epitomize the disconnect between the extremely wealthy and the rest of us. These are the same financial elite who were bailed out in their moment of need and who now refuse to pay their fair share in taxes.

[ChaosControl]

Anyway, wall street isn't the problem. Fascism is the problem. I think Paul is smart enough to stay out of that, but those people have a right to protest wherever they want, not in some "protest zone" or other bullshit like that.

Wall Street and fascism often go hand in hand.

And I am not surprised if there are shady characters behind this, I'd say most often protests of any decent size have some bad people involved, but I imagine most participants are actually there for a good cause.

[kylejack]

It is a disparate group of protesters, and regardless of whose idea it first was, they're trying to be inclusive of a lot of different viewpoints. The Anonymous side is certainly more about anti-authority. Let's not try and pigeonhole an entire group.

[Cowlesy]

From their website:

All nine were escorted from the premise by security, shouting, “End the lockout!” and “Occupy Wall Street!” Sotheby's auctions epitomize the disconnect between the extremely wealthy and the rest of us. These are the same financial elite who were bailed out in their moment of need and who now refuse to pay their fair share in taxes.

Guess what my little marxist friends. Throughout modern civilization, there have been haves and have-nots. But never in modern civilization, have so many of us had it so well.

Too fucking bad you cannot afford at Monet. Neither can I, but you don't hear me bawling and bitching about it.

Good grief these people. This class warfare stuff is so asinine.

Poverty a few hundred years ago was living in a hovel hoping to have enough food from day to day. Today it's a used beater, old trailer with A/C, flatscreen and 160 channels.

Then again, what constitutes "history" grows ever shorter.

[specsaregood]

Poverty a few hundred years ago was living in a hovel hoping to have enough food from day to day. Today it's a used beater, old trailer with A/C, flatscreen and 160 channels.


At the same time, back then as long as you owned your hovel and your land you owned it -- were there property taxes required otherwise the state would take it away from you? were you allowed to make a living without a license? could you grow food or do whatever you wanted on your property in order to better yourself? were there govt agents that would fine you if you didn't mow your hovel's property? would the state kick you off your land if they deemed it "unliveable"?

[TheLasersShadow]

Very good wright up on it but i would hope we don't let the leftists take over the debate on these issues by not challenging them at all with protests of our own for DIFFERENT reasons. When the collapse comes the fool public will be looking to blame someone and will have their anger directed by the powers that be. If the only ones out there are these people ... Then the founders of occupy wall street get to direct the anger!! We need to engage some how and I'm not saying join these people but we need to come up with a plan to protest and get real issues out before the collapse so WE can direct them towards the Fed and monetary policy, foreign policy, domestic policy / regulations, taxation and the criminality of 'Wall St.' and I'm not referring to the floor traders or low level brokers when i say 'Wall St.' I know better so do you. Its the AIG, Goldman, JPM, and Citi executive types and the revolving door in places of power that I'm referring to when I say 'Wall St.'

[vita3]

Wall Street owns DC. That's a fact

[FrankRep]

Wall Street owns DC. That's a fact
If I own stocks, am I "Wall Street"?

[vita3]

"Its the AIG, Goldman, JPM, and Citi executive types and the revolving door in places of power that I'm referring to when I say 'Wall St.

Get it?

[Cowlesy]

At the same time, back then as long as you owned your hovel and your land you owned it -- were there property taxes required otherwise the state would take it away from you? were you allowed to make a living without a license? could you grow food or do whatever you wanted on your property in order to better yourself? were there govt agents that would fine you if you didn't mow your hovel's property? would the state kick you off your land if they deemed it "unliveable"?

Nope, all the land I believed belonged to the King who charged the lords, earls and dukes, taxes and levies on production.

[BlackTerrel]

Poverty a few hundred years ago was living in a hovel hoping to have enough food from day to day. Today it's a used beater, old trailer with A/C, flatscreen and 160 channels.


At the same time, back then as long as you owned your hovel and your land you owned it -- were there property taxes required otherwise the state would take it away from you? were you allowed to make a living without a license? could you grow food or do whatever you wanted on your property in order to better yourself? were there govt agents that would fine you if you didn't mow your hovel's property? would the state kick you off your land if they deemed it "unliveable"?

No. But back then agents of the state would beat you if you didn't pick cotton fast enough. They wouldn't allow you to vote unless you were a male and owned land and if they suspected you of witchcraft they drowned you.

Things are generally better than they were. And I'd rather be in this country and in 2011 then any other country or any other time previously. The idea propogated by some on this forum that the Founders created this ideal country was never true.

[specsaregood]

The idea propogated by some on this forum that the Founders created this ideal country was never true.

strawmen do you no service as I didn't claim such.

[specsaregood]

Nope, all the land I believed belonged to the King who charged the lords, earls and dukes, taxes and levies on production.

which is exactly what we tried to get away from is my understanding. and yet, here we are again...

[LibertyEagle]

bump

[affa]

they divide us once again.

[MRK]

Funny, I remember strikingly similar conversations on campus that alleged that the tea party was an astroturf movement spurred by corporation funding and The Tea Party Express.

Just remember the protestors themselves are disaffected Americans who have identified that there is a structural problem and are willing to do something about it. They are activists ripe for conversion. At the very least respectful dialogue should be eatablished with the protestors so that the merits of true liberty can overcome the wolf in sheep's clothing. I think it would be superb for liberty activists to be there to passively lead them in the right direction without identifying themselves as Paul supporters.

[angelatc]

[QUOTE=MRK;3592871]Funny, I remember strikingly similar conversations on campus that alleged that the tea party was an astroturf movement spurred by corporation funding and The Tea Party Express..[/QUOTE}

But it wasn't. That's the difference.

[AuH20]

Wall Street owns DC. That's a fact

Wall Street and D.C. are the same entity.

[acptulsa]

Very good wright up on it but i would hope we don't let the leftists take over the debate on these issues by not challenging them at all with protests of our own for DIFFERENT reasons.

Same reason--anti-corporatism. Different (make that better) solutions.

[zach]

blah blah blah, us vs them blah blah blah

if we were out there, then we'd love to have people support us, but because they're for a different "agenda," then obviously they're disillusioned and stupid for fighting for what they believe in

quit acting like fucking purists, represent the man who represents you, and connect with the people.

the only way we can get past this corporate america concept is to find the common ground of the people and have a uniting goal, not fight or neglect each other because i'm a "anarchofreemarketcapitalist" and they're a "marxistsocialistcommunistsellout" type of mentality so obviously the two can never mix.

you're human, and they're human. get over yourself.

[angelatc]

blah blah blah, us vs them blah blah blah

if we were out there, then we'd love to have people support us, but because they're for a different "agenda," then obviously they're disillusioned and stupid for fighting for what they believe in

quit acting like fucking purists, represent the man who represents you, and connect with the people.

the only way we can get past this corporate america concept is to find the common ground of the people and have a uniting goal, not fight or neglect each other because i'm a "anarchofreemarketcapitalist" and they're a "marxistsocialistcommunistsellout" type of mentality so obviously the two can never mix.

you're human, and they're human. get over yourself.


They're not really all that human.

[zach]

They're not really all that human.

In that case, neither are you, and neither am I.

[ZanZibar]

Ron Paul on the Occupy Wall Street protest - a blog by Doug Wead, Sr Adviser to the Ron Paul 2012 Campaign:
http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/ron-paul-and-the-occupy-wall-street-protest/




Ron Paul discusses it with Reason Magazine:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/01/ron-paul-talks-about-the-occup



And Jack Hunter discusses it on Freedom Watch with Judge Napolitano last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3kcxARJ1YzQ