AA for recovering former Neocons

[rrcamp]

Hello, my name is Robert. I'm a recovering neoconservative, as recently as 2 years ago.

I felt like I had to admit it to the forum, and now is the best time to do it because all the Nov 5 threads will bury this in minutes. But I am now at peace.

Thank you.

[Adamsa]

I love you Robert.

[Shiranu]

Dont worry, Robert, we all made bad mistakes in our lives. Here, we accept you for what you are, a patriot.

[derdy]

Hello Robert. My name is Denny and I am also a recovering NeoCon. I've been dry for a little over two years now :D

[qsecofr]

Don't worry Robert you are among good company. I voted for Bush twice and supported him until arround 2005, In my defense, I didn't know I had a choice :D

[Bryan]

Thanks for posting Robert. There are lots of here in that boat- myself included. I could dig up numerous past threads here on this... For some of us, part of this revolution is making amends with humanity.

It's an honor to have you with us.

[rrroae]

It's been 3 weeks for me. I Keep defending Guliani out of instinct until I take a minute to realize he's a Hillary clone with an R on his jacket.

Thank God for RP and all of you who helped me find my way.

[Tenbatsu]

My name is Josh, I am a recovering Neo-Con. I found out about Ron Paul in June from a friend. At first I was apathetic and wrote him off as mostly right on domestic policy but terribly wrong on foreign policy.

Two weeks, and many hours of research later, I realized that Ron Paul was 100% correct on the way the U.S. conducts itself around the world and jumped on the Paul bandwagon. Now, I'm a full fledged Ronbot that has spammed over $700.00 to Ron Paul in three months. It was hard for me to admit that I was wrong, it's not an easy thing to do. And I'm sure there are thousands of Republicans out there that are fighting the same battle right now. Let's hope they all see the light in time for the primaries.

[rrcamp]

I think Tenbatsu hit it.... it's REALLY hard to admit you're wrong. It's human nature. Sometimes I feel like half our battles to convert other Republicans is based on this premise.... we should get together a team of RP supporting psychologists to create a clinical method for addressing an inability to admit mistakes :-D

Or hopefully they'll find their way to our meeting here ;-)

IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE SAVED!

[Question_Authority]

How about a new web site? RecoveringNeo-Cons.com? Everyone can post their conversion story...

[werdd]

im Trevor, a former one issue iraq war voter Democrat. Which is the same thing as being a neo-con. Ive been dry for about 8 months.

[katao]

My name is Katao, I am a recovering Neo-Con. I saw the light about 3 years ago and haven't even looked back. How could I have been so blind?

[qsecofr]

I think Tenbatsu hit it.... it's REALLY hard to admit you're wrong. It's human nature. Sometimes I feel like half our battles to convert other Republicans is based on this premise.... we should get together a team of RP supporting psychologists to create a clinical method for addressing this :-D

Or hopefully they'll find their way to our meeting here ;-)

IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE SAVED!

True, I think another factor is that to admit being wrong was seen as having to admit the socialists were right. It was either/or with little room to define yourself as a conservative. A shame really, but the realities of our current body politics drove me to Ron Paul and I'm almost happy they screwed it up so badly they couldn't marginalize a guy like Ron.

[rrcamp]

How about a new web site? RecoveringNeo-Cons.com? Everyone can post their conversion story...

That's a great idea.. and it could also be the central collection point for methods on converting remaining neocons... sorta like the CDC of political retardation

[Bryan]

How about a new web site? RecoveringNeo-Cons.com? Everyone can post their conversion story...
Unless someone starts one, we could have a sub-forum here for it. :)

[Lord Xar]

ME TOO! I was a neo-con 5 months ago.... recovery has been swift and I am not having any relapses whatsoever.......

[American]

Unless someone starts one, we could have a sub-forum here for it. :)

thats a good idea, I think it would help other to post who might just be lurking still. I mean being a Neo-Con is unfortunately just following the new party line. Which didnt need to happen, the only thing that happened politically on 9/11 was turn the conservative republicans into Democrats.

[RJB]

Neoconism is like alchoholism. Most don't realize they are neocons and are indenial. Enablers like Hannity and Rush, continue to convince you that everythings alright-- You're a true conservative, just vote for the lesser of two evils.

Admitting it is the first step. The good news about beating the personal demons of neoconism is that once you beat it, you are not a recovering neocon the rest of your life. And you don't have to go to meetings and listen to people whine about how screwed up they are.

Welcome. You are fully recovered.

[johngr]

AA, as those programs modeled on it, is a cult. We don't want people to quit one cult and join another.

Rockefeller financed it. It furthers his plans (primarily by making any caught up in it feel powerless but also by feeding the dictatorial and Orwellian treatment industry).

If you want the dirt on AA (and you have a couple of days), go to this site: http://www.orange-papers.org/

[rrcamp]

Neoconism is like alchoholism. Most don't realize they are neocons and are indenial. Enablers like Hannity and Rush, continue to convince you that everythings alright

That's it - I mean, I remember arguing with people until I was blue in the face. In the end, when deep down I knew I lost the argument over some stupid policy, I would fall back on one of O'Riley (barf) talking points and end the conversation. Jesus... I consider myself a fairy intelligent, well-educated person... and that's what's so scary about it... how could this have happened to me???

I can only think arrogance and fear. Arrogance in assuming our country could fuck up the whole world if it so much as looked at us funny... and fear of an outside enemy (how the hell does this trick still work?? it's like as old as humanity and we still fall for it!)

[johngr]

Neoconism is like alchoholism. Most don't realize they are neocons and are indenial.

The concept of denial is Orwellian.

A (semantically) negative construct like that is problematic in part because there is no defending oneself against it.

Most alcoholics know and admit (to themselves) they have a problem.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

I was a neo con for awhile and Ron Paul cured me. I always dismissed the doves in the Democrat party because "they" were such socialists and I couldn't see myself giving ground to any of them (some Dems are ok sorta of). With Ron Paul, I loved his domestic policy and the foreign policy has slowly been growing on me. Makes more and more sense.

[lisajames96]

Hello, my name is Robert. I'm a recovering neoconservative, as recently as 2 years ago.

I felt like I had to admit it to the forum, and now is the best time to do it because all the Nov 5 threads will bury this in minutes. But I am now at peace.

Thank you.


I have been delivered from the neo cons. Will never be the same. I have the scars to prove it but the remorse with me forever. ( i know, i know a little melodramatic...)

[BillyDkid]

Hello, my name is Robert. I'm a recovering neoconservative, as recently as 2 years ago.

I felt like I had to admit it to the forum, and now is the best time to do it because all the Nov 5 threads will bury this in minutes. But I am now at peace.

Thank you.Welcome Robert. We are all very proud of you.

[unklejman]

I rooted for Bush back in 2000. But that was before I was old enough to vote. I wised up soon enough and voted for Michael Peroutka in 2004.

[Bryan]

I have been delivered from the neo cons. Will never be the same. I have the scars to prove it but the remorse with me forever. ( i know, i know a little melodramatic...)
Not melodramatic at all IMO. This is our world, our future, the future of the next generation we're talking about.

Thanks for posting.

[RJB]

The concept of denial is Orwellian.

Please don't psycho-analyze me :) I'm just messing around.

BTW You are right about that.

[AlexAmore]

I've always been a libertarian even before I could vote (i'm 19 now). I was exposed to it because I was on the internet more than watching TV. I watched tons of documentaries to educate myself on all sorts of issues and then Michael Badnarik's Constitution Class was the clincher that wrapped it up all together and labeled it "libertarianism". It's nice to be pure....a virgin if you will. *Steps down from his pedestal* Thank you, thank you! *Bows*...I'll be here all week. Try the veal! ;)

[ConstitutionGal]

Don't worry Robert you are among good company. I voted for Bush twice and supported him until arround 2005, In my defense, I didn't know I had a choice :D

I don't think I would have admitted that even on a "AA" forum :eek:

I voted for his majesty El Presidente Bush ONCE - jumped ship and went Constitution Party in '04 and oh boy!! did it ever feel good to pull a lever FOR someone instead of AGAINST someone else!!

Welcome to AA for the soul!!

[rrcamp]

I don't think I would have admitted that even on a "AA" forum :eek:

I voted Bush twice too :eek: but Libertarian party for every other position up for election. The transition had begun, but I didn't want to "waste my vote" on the position that mattered :rolleyes:

[JuniorNJ]

I'm a recovering NeoCon myself, I asked my parents to vote for GWB both times. This will be the first Presidential election I'll be eligible for. I didn't know who I was gong to support until I heard someone mention the NAU on the radio while driving to work one day. I went home and researched it and who do you think appeared? RP. I researched more about Paul and I haven't looked back.

[thehittgirl]

I was neoconned for 2 months.

Whether it's been 1 day 100 years, we've all been there.

Welcome home :D

[RP4ME]

Hi I too am a recovering neocon....it relly takes hitting bottom before one can take responsibility and change yoor path! We welocome you - if you shoudl have and setbacks please post so we can help you back on teh wagon!

[FreedomLover]

Hi, I'm FreedomLover. I was a neocon, I voted for Bush twice and was proud of it. I initially shrugged off anti-war people as kooks who didn't understand foreign policy. Of course, a lot of them are.

But, there was a lot more to it than that. Some of them I ran into had logical, sensible things to say about getting out of iraq and not intervening in the ME. I was starting to agree with them, but I would never be on their side, as I had already sworn off their ilk because of the vast array of socialists, communists, and idiots that pervaded their ranks.

After a while I discovered RP and the purity of his philosophy on government and the issues surrounding it was really refreshing, along with his aura of uncorruptability. I don't agree with him on every issue (I don't agree with anyone on every issue) but I began to understand the perfect synthesis of his style of small government. That government staying out our wallets, our homes, and other countries around the world was the only consistent approach.

I think electing ron paul would be akin to "shock therapy" for the malaise Americans have for the government and for themselves. It's really do or die right now, sink or swim. I think it's worth more to be apart of something virtuous and "real" like this campaign, instead of being another "cog in the machine," to use a phrase that I used to really, really hate.

[granny miller]

Keep coming back it works if you work it!
Easy does it.
One day at a time.
Act as if.

All good slogans for those in Recovery.

[Brutus]

I'm a recovering neo-con. I've been a fan of Dr. Paul for about a decade, but I thought he was wrong on Iraq. Boy am I glad he had more sense than me. If only there were more like him.