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Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 07:44 PM
The 2010 UCR stats are out and the excellent "Injustice Everywhere" site has compiled those statistics to compare with cops.

Per incident of violent crime, based on per capita numbers, put you at greater risk of being a victim of a violent crime when having an encounter with a cop than with a fellow Mundane.

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Also, before calling it a day, the US DOJ/FBI UCR released their final US crime rate reports for 2010 which use reported allegations of crimes as gathered by law enforcement agencies to determine the US crime rates each year. As some readers may know, we use that data to compare general crime rates with police crime rates as gathered from our project. Our 2010 crime rate comparisons were based off data we gathered in 2010 with the US DOJ/FBI 2001Crime in the US report.

So, since the 2010 report is out, I decided to update that portion of our data and here is the result:

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2010-UCRvPCR.png

The UCR data is a per capita (100,000) rate based off a projected US population estimate based on Census data and an estimated growth rate while our NPMSRP Law Enforcement Crime Rate is a per capita (100,000) rate based on the reported number of sworn/certified law enforcement officers employed in the US as provided in the same UCR report. The UCR uses reports of criminal offenses, not convictions while our data is based on filtered reports of comparable credible reports of misconduct by law enforcement. The “Fatal Excessive Force” rate is different from the “Murder” rate in that the murder rate is the number of cases where officers were officially charged with murder while the Fatal Excessive Force rate is based on the number of incidents where alleged excessive force resulted in a fatality.

For more info about our methodology refer to the About and FAQ sections in the menu links at the top of our site.

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

james1906
09-23-2011, 08:43 PM
Robbery should be much higher. They're like commissioned salespeople, but you're forced to buy the product.

Maverick
09-23-2011, 08:56 PM
Wow. I knew things were bad but this is pretty stunning. Is this a new precedent? Have things been worsening that much or did we cross this threshold a long time ago? And, now that we've crossed this threshold, is it time to lay off all these psychos that are clearly more dangerous than the general populace?


Robbery should be much higher. They're like commissioned salespeople, but you're forced to buy the product.

Sure, most cops aren't out there knocking over convenience stores or anything, so it doesn't fit most people's conception of "robbery" but it's there all the same. I'll bet if they had a category labeled "bribery" or "extortion" that blue bar would be a lot longer.

Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Wow. I knew things were bad but this is pretty stunning. Is this a new precedent? Have things been worsening that much or did we cross this threshold a long time ago? And, now that we've crossed this threshold, is it time to lay off all these psychos that are clearly more dangerous than the general populace?

Good questions.

Recent trends that have been tracked over the last few years indicate a slow worsening of the situation, keeping in mind the relative "newness" of any real credible accounting of police injustice. That said, I'm sure some naysayers will pick the methodology apart, in an attempt to discredit the report.

No matter how you slice it, Officer Friendly showing up at your front door or in your rearview mirror should be regarded negatively, and the ensuing encounter handled very carefully.

Maverick
09-23-2011, 10:25 PM
Good questions.

Recent trends that have been tracked over the last few years indicate a slow worsening of the situation, keeping in mind the relative "newness" of any real credible accounting of police injustice.

That's a good point. Being in the internet age, and the prevalence of cell phone cameras and other things that allow us mundanes to film them for a change may make it seem like this problem has gotten worse even if the actual incidents of abuse haven't really increased. But now we know about it more than ever, and can be prepared to be more vigilant than ever.

Whether police brutality has been getting worse, or if it's always been this bad, it's certainly still bad no matter how you look at it.

donnay
09-23-2011, 10:34 PM
Considering the fact that police departments around the country will not hire anyone with a high IQ, and are lowering the standards for becoming a policemen, it makes sense that those who are migrating to law enforcement are bullies and people who crave power.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Id5uCqxEc


Other Sources:
http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm#dumbed_down
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-connecticut-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html
http://abc.daytonsnewssource.com/shared/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wkef_vid_6103.shtml
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/03/unreal-eric-holder-now-forcing-dayton-police-force-to-hire-black-applicants-who-cant-pass-test/
http://www.adversity.net/newhavenfd/default.htm
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/florida-highway-patrol-illegally-ticketing-drivers-for-obeying-law/

Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 10:59 PM
That's a good point. Being in the internet age, and the prevalence of cell phone cameras and other things that allow us mundanes to film them for a change may make it seem like this problem has gotten worse even if the actual incidents of abuse haven't really increased. But now we know about it more than ever, and can be prepared to be more vigilant than ever.

Whether police brutality has been getting worse, or if it's always been this bad, it's certainly still bad no matter how you look at it.

What I can say is getting worse, without question, is the rapidity in which lethal force is used.

There is a documented move away from vertical force escalation models, and a move to a circular force matrix (I'm trying not to wear out the word continuum) that is being adopted by departments all across the country in a move prompted by the insurance companies, the lawyers and the feds, who are training the new corps of cops that control of the situation and officer safety is the primary concern, (Not to mention the military training and equipment, all based on "neutralizing hostiles.) not keeping the peace or enforcing the law in even handed manner.

Now, in coarse language, what that means at a street level encounter with a cop is that if the situation goes sideways in the slightest way, for whatever reason or no reason at all, that cop can light you up and claim that it was necessary for officer safety.

The same reason they can now justify sending a heavily armed platoon of stormtroopers with automatic rifles and grenades into a private home to serve a warrant.

Anti Federalist
09-24-2011, 02:16 PM
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acptulsa
09-24-2011, 02:22 PM
And the really scary thing is, I'll bet this doesn't even count the TSA.