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tangent4ronpaul
09-23-2011, 11:45 AM
Researchers One Step Closer to Mind-Reading with Brain Imaging Research
http://www.dailytech.com/Researchers+One+Step+Closer+to+MindReading+with+Br ain+Imaging+Research/article22822.htm

Using fMRI and computational models, researchers were able to decipher and reconstruct movies from our minds

Researchers from the University of California-Berkeley have used functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) and computational models to watch clips of movies inside the minds of people who just viewed them.

Jack Gallant, study leader and a UC Berkeley neuroscientist, and Shinji Nishimoto, a post-doctoral researcher in Gallant's lab, were able to "read the mind" by deciphering and rebuilding the human visual experience.


U.S. Army, DARPA Working on Mind-Reading System
http://www.dailytech.com/US+Army+DARPA+Working+on+MindReading+System/article312.htm

The United States Army hopes to read the minds of its soldiers by monitoring brain activity and body responses

A new system designed to aid soldiers will use neuro-physiological sensors to help monitor the brain activity of U.S. Army personnel out in the field. Some of the things measured and recorded include the heart rate and brain activity of the soldiers. Once the data has been processed, the system will hopefully influence what a soldier does in certain situations.

The U.S. Army, Honeywell and the Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) are working on the new wireless technology that will be integrated into the Army's Future Force Warrior program.

kahless
09-23-2011, 12:19 PM
Truly amazing. CBS just posted a clip comparing the video to what they picked up in the brain.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/23/scitech/main20110768.shtml

EDIT: better yet the Gallant Lab publication at Berkeley.

https://sites.google.com/site/gallantlabucb/publications/nishimoto-et-al-2011


It is possible that decoding brain activity could have serious ethical and privacy implications downstream in, say, the 30-year time frame. As an analogy, consider the current debates regarding availability of genetic information. Genetic sequencing is becoming cheaper by the year, and it will soon be possible for everyone to have their own genome sequenced. This raises many issues regarding privacy and the accessibility of individual genetic information. The authors believe strongly that no one should be subjected to any form of brain-reading process involuntarily, covertly, or without complete informed consent.

Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 02:40 PM
So even the privacy inside your head is under attack.

The system is not going to be happy until every single thing about us, every jot and tittle of everything that makes you and I an individual human being, is processed, spindled, databased, tracked, monitored, indentified and controlled.

Why though?

I have an answer, that not many people are going to want to hear.

Bern
09-23-2011, 03:01 PM
Well, that settles it. Time to upgrade my head gear.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--gFT2cAXJIM/Tew_Ck74YSI/AAAAAAAAA4E/GuEZ_dHwRAM/s1600/1.X-Men.First-Class.Magneto-Helmet-0001.jpg

The One
09-23-2011, 03:03 PM
So even the privacy inside your head is under attack.

The system is not going to be happy until every single thing about us, every jot and tittle of everything that makes you and I an individual human being, is processed, spindled, databased, tracked, monitored, indentified and controlled.

Why though?

I have an answer, that not many people are going to want to hear.


I do, I do!!!

Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 03:19 PM
I do, I do!!!

Global. Mass. Genocide.

The systems to carry that out are too random to release until there is full control of, essentially, every single human being on the planet.

Reduction of the human population to 500-800 million to follow.

The One
09-23-2011, 03:24 PM
Global. Mass. Genocide.

The systems to carry that out are too random to release until there is full control of, essentially, every single human being on the planet.

Reduction of the human population to 500-800 million to follow.

Mods--Please change this man's handle to Debbie Downer. Time to go bump the Friday Night Liquor Ticker...

Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 03:26 PM
Mods--Please change this man's handle to Debbie Downer. Time to go bump the Friday Night Liquor Ticker...

You forgot to post a "sad trombone" sound with that.

Told ya.

tangent4ronpaul
09-23-2011, 03:59 PM
What was that movie where people could re-live other peoples experiences?

The One
09-23-2011, 04:01 PM
What was that movie where people could re-live other peoples experiences?

I don't know, but if that's possible I want to re-live Hugh Hefner's experiences.

tangent4ronpaul
09-23-2011, 04:15 PM
Found it - "Strange Days" - good movie!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Days_%28film%29

123tim
09-23-2011, 04:43 PM
I don't understand this at all.....

Did they overlay actual video over the signals that were recorded from the brain?

The reconstructed clip of the bird is obviously a blurry woman.

The black boy with the stethoscope on the brain side is an blurry image of a man which then switches to a woman and then to a man with a white shirt and tie.

The plane in the reconstructed image looks like one coming in for a landing because you have a clear view of the tail and it's obviously going the other direction.

Also in this image there is clear text seen at 0 :24 which says something like "Tout ce que je" something or other.

The last image of the woman is obviously a man on the brain side....
More "almost" readable text on it too.

I don't think that what we're being shown is an actual representation of what the brain scan is "seeing" I think that is it's a blurry nebulous mess with actual prerecorded video overlaid on top of it.

Just my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjDnYxJ0bo&feature=player_detailpage


Edit:
Went to the actual Youtube site - this was in the description:
The left clip is a segment of the movie that the subject viewed while in the magnet. The right clip shows the reconstruction of this movie from brain activity measured using fMRI. The reconstruction was obtained using only each subject's brain activity and a library of 18 million seconds of random YouTube video. (In brief, the algorithm processes each of the 18 million clips through the brain model, and identifies the clips that would have produced brain activity as similar to the measured brain activity as possible. The clips used to fit the model, those used to test the model and those used to reconstruct the stimulus were entirely separate.) Brain activity was sampled every one second, and each one-second section of the viewed movie was reconstructed separately.
For a related video see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMA23JJ1M1o
For more information about this work, please check our lab web site: http://gallantlab.org

The computer picked out videos that looked like what the brain was seeing......these must have been overlaid over the actual brain signal.

Although it's interesting that enough signal was deciphered to pick out matching videos, I still think that this is sort of bogus because they've distorted the video to make it look like a blurry representation of what the brain is actually transmitting.

jmdrake
10-07-2011, 09:28 AM
Bump