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sailingaway
09-23-2011, 01:06 AM
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/9920

fancy that....

rp08orbust
09-23-2011, 01:13 AM
Did you mean apportionment?

Cabal
09-23-2011, 01:32 AM
Shameful.

ONUV
09-23-2011, 02:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/bhofr.jpg

afwjam
09-23-2011, 02:16 AM
Really? Nah, I just don't believe it...

VoluntaryAmerican
09-23-2011, 02:24 AM
Huntsman, Bachmann, and Santorum also talked out of turn... I did not see this factored in the article. As it was not a question. Although in Huntsmans case he was getting a question right after he spoke out of turn so his time should remain the same.

TER
09-23-2011, 02:27 AM
Some more fodder for Black This Out Money Bomb

qwerty
09-23-2011, 02:29 AM
Was this suprise to anyone...

FIGHT BACK! BLACK THIS OUT MONEYBOMB!

THEY CAN`T BLACK OUT WHEN WE MAKE HISTORY! :cool:

BamaAla
09-23-2011, 02:51 AM
I can almost understand Perry and Romney dominating the talk time since they are out in open air, but Santorum, Gingrich, and Huntsman are indefensible.

MJU1983
09-23-2011, 03:00 AM
Some more fodder for Black This Out Money Bomb

Indeed. I tweeted this, feel free to RT: http://twitter.com/#!/mju1983/status/117121097211715584

John F Kennedy III
09-23-2011, 04:00 AM
Total Talk
Romney 12:09
Perry 11:10
Huntsman 07:41
Santorum 07:06
Cain 06:23
Bachmann 06:13
Gingrich 05:44
Ron Paul 04:33
Johnson 04:10

Paul did so well I didn't even notice he only talked for 4:33...

Jerkface
09-23-2011, 06:41 AM
I find it ironic that the one channel that boasts about being fair has implemented the least balanced time distribution out of the big three.

LinuxJedi
09-23-2011, 06:57 AM
And percentage wise this is:

Romney - 18.7%
Perry - 17.1%
Huntsman - 11.8%
Santorum - 10.9%
Cain - 9.8%
Bachmann - 9.5%
Gingrich - 8.8%
Paul - 7.0%
Johnson - 6.4%

Now, let's do something fun. These are the percentage times without Johnson, which is not for evil purposes, but to compare this debate to last debate. If we pretend that Gary doesn't exist in this debate, we can compare the percentages to the last debate, otherwise there is no fair way to compare the numbers. Percentage-wise from last night is now:

Romney - 19.9%
Perry - 18.3%
Huntsman - 12.6%
Santorum - 11.6%
Cain - 10.5%
Bachmann - 10.2%
Gingrich - 9.4%
Paul - 7.5%

The CNN debate times were (in the same order):

Romney - 15.7%
Perry - 21.3%
Huntsman - 11.3%
Santorum - 10.4%
Cain - 8.2%
Bachmann - 12.7%
Gingrich - 10.8%
Paul - 9.6%

The change in time given is:

Romney +4.2%
Perry -3.0%
Huntsman +1.3%
Santorum +1.2%
Cain +2.3%
Bachmann -2.5%
Gingrich -1.4%
Paul -2.1%


It would be nice if someone could plot the percentages of time for the NBC and FOX debates in comparison to two polls done around that time, so that we can show that Paul is going down in time given despite going up in the polls. Also, I'm considering polishing this up and sending it in as an editorial somewhere.

The Free Hornet
09-23-2011, 07:30 AM
Their rebuttal system is BS. Every time Romney or Perry is mentioned, the get 30 more seconds. They need to limit this and adjust the questions and remaining time accordingly. Perhaps there should even be a system by which candidates have more closing statement time at the tail end (in the above scenario, Paul & Johnson would have more and Romney & Perry would have less).

The whole Google/submitted question thing is more BS. They pick and choose EVERYTHING they want us to see. It is the illusion of viewer input.

scrosnoe
09-23-2011, 07:37 AM
Don't you see this is about us not him. We must demand it for him and take back the country so that he can lead. We must do this! We raise the money, take care of the lists, give him air time, market the message, run for local office.....

limequat
09-23-2011, 07:50 AM
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j71/Limequat/foxgoogledebatespeakingtime.jpg

jkr
09-23-2011, 08:06 AM
so how do we win WITHOUT these "people"

not can we, HOW

UtahApocalypse
09-23-2011, 08:08 AM
They should ask EVERY candidate in order of polling the SAME question...... that is what a DEBATE is.

RonPaul101.com
09-23-2011, 08:20 AM
We need to try to find a debate corporate sponsor that can control the debate better. Google was either in on it, or simply allowed Fox too much control.

We need Overstock or Paypal to sponsor a debate.

D.A.S.
09-23-2011, 08:20 AM
They should ask EVERY candidate in order of polling the SAME question...... that is what a DEBATE is.

Agreed.

RonPaul101.com
09-23-2011, 08:32 AM
They should ask EVERY candidate in order of polling the SAME question...... that is what a DEBATE is.

EXACTLY!!! If time only allows for 4 or 5 questions pick the best ones. ask the question and go down the line letting each debate participant answer for 1 minute.

AceNZ
09-23-2011, 08:52 AM
They should ask EVERY candidate in order of polling the SAME question...... that is what a DEBATE is.

Polling order shouldn't have anything to do with it.

What we have now is some sort of pseudo press conference -- it's an absurd circus. Real debates don't even have questions; they have topics. I'd like to see a real debate on topics like social security, foreign policy, monetary policy, etc. At a minimum, it would work like this: first, each candidate gets a fixed amount of time to present their views, without referring to what others say. Then, each candidate gets a fixed amount of time again, to respond to what others said.

Even better, use a standard policy debate structure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_of_policy_debate

That's a debate.

wongster41
09-23-2011, 09:05 AM
They should ask EVERY candidate in order of polling the SAME question...... that is what a DEBATE is.

that would require fox to be fair and balanced.