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Mach
09-22-2011, 09:27 PM
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/

Navigation-and-emergency-services company OnStar is notifying its six million account holders that it will keep a complete accounting of the speed and location of OnStar-equipped vehicles, even for drivers who discontinue monthly service.

OnStar began e-mailing customers Monday about its update to the privacy policy, which grants OnStar the right to sell that GPS-derived data in an anonymized format.

Adam Denison, a spokesman for the General Motors subsidiary, said OnStar does not currently sell customer data, but it reserves that right. He said both the new and old privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a vehicle’s every movement and its speed, though it’s not clear where that’s stated in the old policy.

“What’s changed [is that if] you want to cancel your OnStar service, we are going to maintain a two-way connection to your vehicle unless the customer says otherwise,” Denison said in a telephone interview.

The connection will continue, he said, to make it “easier to re-enroll” in the program, which charges plans from $19 to $29 monthly for help with navigation and emergencies. Canceling customers must opt out of the continued surveillance monitoring program, according to the privacy policy.

The privacy changes take effect in December, Denison said, adding that the policy reinforces the company’s right to sell anonymized data.

“We hear from organizations periodically requesting our information,” he said.

He said an example of how the data might be used would be for the Michigan Department of Transportation “to get a feel for traffic usage on a specific section of freeway.” The policy also allows the data to be used for marketing purposes by OnStar and vehicle manufacturers.

Collecting location and speed data via GPS might also create a treasure trove of data that could be used in criminal and civil cases. One could also imagine an eager police chief acquiring the data to issue speeding tickets en masse.

Jonathan Zdziarski, an Ohio forensics scientist, blogged about the new terms Tuesday (http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=1270). In a telephone interview, he said he was canceling his service and making sure he was being disconnected from OnStar’s network.

He said the new privacy policy goes too far.

“They added a bullet point allowing them to collect any data for any purpose,” he said.


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DamianTV
09-23-2011, 12:12 AM
I posted this story already, but the importance of the article has not been diminished one bit. +Rep for paying attention and sharing important things that affect ALL of us.

Anti Federalist
09-23-2011, 12:37 AM
Told everybody about this when OnStar first reared it's ugly head years ago, that OnStar would track you even if you declined the service.

People laughed at me.

:sigh:

donnay
09-23-2011, 12:40 AM
Told everybody about this when OnStar first reared it's ugly head years ago, that OnStar would track you even if you declined the service.

People laughed at me.

:sigh:

Yeah just like people chuckled at me when I told them I refuse to get an EZ-PASS. We know in New Jersey they were tracking people off the the toll roads!

DamianTV
09-23-2011, 01:10 AM
Told everybody about this when OnStar first reared it's ugly head years ago, that OnStar would track you even if you declined the service.

People laughed at me.

:sigh:

People have found that it is convenient for them to live without Privacy. The world continues to change, and as there is less and less Privacy left, those Conveniences are quickly turning to Abuses. Cops are able to check your Internet Search History, see if you wrote a check to a known Drug Dealer, and even convict people of felonies based on TV Viewing Habits. Those Abuses wont stop there, and sure they start off with going after Real Criminals, that Power they have from their Invasions of Privacy becomes Addictive, like it is its own Drug. They will continue to extend their Police Powers and reduce your Privacy until anything that you do that can be considered a crime WILL cause you to be convicted of that Crime. Even if it is wiping your ass with too much toilet paper, people will eventually be fined for it, but by that point, it will be far too late.

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Told everybody about this when OnStar first reared it's ugly head years ago, that OnStar would track you even if you declined the service.

People laughed at me.

:sigh:

I wasnt. But I also find myself continuously explaining to people how the Abuse can happen, and trying to come up with specific instances. The specifics dont matter as long as the Continued Invasion of Privacy occurs, because they will ever come up with more and more atrocious ways to violate you as a human being by having both the Power and Access to that Private Information in the first place.