Ron Paul & the Great Progressive Myth (Terrorist Prevention)

[FrankRep]

http://thenewamerican.com/images/stories2011/04aSeptember/ron_paul_debate2_ap.001.jpg




The exchange between Rep. Ron Paul and former Sen. Rick Santorum on foreign policy at the CNN/Tea Party presidential debate centered on the issue of whether our interventionism prevents terrorism or makes terrorism worse.


Ron Paul & the Great Progressive Myth (Terrorist Prevention) (http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9039-ron-paul-a-the-great-progressive-myth-terrorist-prevention)


Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/)
19 September 2011

[Sam I am]

In my experience, people who identify themselves as "progressives" tend to be quite a bit more anti-military on average than people who do not.

[torchbearer]

In my experience, people who identify themselves as "progressives" tend to be quite a bit more anti-military on average than people who do not.

some consider woodrow wilson the first progressive president.
make the world safe for democracy.

[FrankRep]

In my experience, people who identify themselves as "progressives" tend to be quite a bit more anti-military on average than people who do not.
Progressives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism) want to use Government to make change.
Socialists like to hide under the label of "progressive."

[Sam I am]

some consider woodrow wilson the first progressive president.
make the world safe for democracy.

Meanwhile, educated people correctly consider Theodore Roosevelt a progressive president.

[Rothbardian Girl]

It's too bad 'progressive' has become such a dirty term. I consider myself 'progressive' if only in the sense that I am certainly not 'regressive'. I want our government to evolve into something that hasn't been tried before - strict constitutionalism at least as a starting point.

[Cutlerzzz]

It's too bad 'progressive' has become such a dirty term. I consider myself 'progressive' if only in the sense that I am certainly not 'regressive'. I want our government to evolve into something that hasn't been tried before - strict constitutionalism at least as a starting point.Progressives have been bad since the start. They have always stood for tyranny, from the sociopath Teddy Roosevelt up to Obama.

[Rothbardian Girl]

Progressives have been bad since the start. They have always stood for tyranny, from the sociopath Teddy Roosevelt up to Obama.
Agreed; I am merely pointing out that it is a shame they have taken that moniker to denote themselves... I don't think any of us are the opposite of progressives... why regress to something we've never had before? That is my main quibble. Maybe we can try and emphasize that what progressives are doing is not 'progressive'; it is only making us return to those tyrannical days where our government literally dictated just about everything, reminiscent of the days under the British.

I wish I could consider progressivism perhaps noble in what some aspects of it tried to accomplish, but the progressives wound up making things a whole lot worse because they saw the state as possibly being used for benevolence, when that isn't really true. I think they were utterly misguided in their basic philosophy of the state's relationship to society, and that is why it is a shame that they took the name 'progressive' to designate themselves. Many of the "trust busting" activities of Roosevelt and other "progressive presidents", for example, only served in strengthening the interests of big business.

[Cutlerzzz]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rothbardian Girl again.

This especially


it is only making us return to those tyrannical days where our government literally dictated just about everything, reminiscent of the days under the British.


They are progressive for wanting to return to the time where government ruled over man. It is ironic that they now claim the name "Liberal" when destroying Liberalism has been their goal since day one.

[jmdrake]

In my experience, people who identify themselves as "progressives" tend to be quite a bit more anti-military on average than people who do not.

And yet they vote for people like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

[Cutlerzzz]

And yet they vote for people like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgoGood video. I've got some rep to spread around, so +1.