Socialist group protesting Ron Paul speech at LSU

[Airborn]

Ron will be speaking at LSU in Baton Rouge next friday. A student progressive socialist group will be there handing out Anti-Paul slim jims, looks to be about a dozen or so students. If you are able to make it, please come and show our numbers. They seem to be attacking Paul on his pro-life stand, they call it anti-woman :rolleyes:, Civil Rights Act, even out right lying and saying Paul has said he wouldn't have repealed Jim Crow laws, and saying he is anti-union.

I'm thinking about standing right next to them with my own slim jims.

here is their facebook for the event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=204651862933950

[sailingaway]

Great idea. Ron's interview at the start of this campaign on Hardball with Chris Matthews would be great on Jim Crow Laws, as well. But I don't know if anyone would watch it in that setting.

[pipewerKz]

It's amazing how disgusting some people think freedom is.

[Sjmfury]

Remind them they are in the US of fuckin A.

USA USA USA!!! WOOP WOOP!!!

[pipewerKz]

Remind them they are in the US of fuckin A.

USA USA USA!!! WOOP WOOP!!!

Seriously? That's probably what turned them to Socialism in the first place.

[Paul4Prez]

Ask them if they honestly believe that another four years of President Obama will be better for peace, freedom, the economy, or humanity.

[Working Poor]

be careful and mind our manners guys

[Carole]

Looks as though the YAL has challenged those socialist folks to a debate. :)

[Ronulus]

wow, if these are going to be like that pro abortion group that someone just posted a video of.... I would expect dr paul to hand out a few chokeslams and pile drivers.

[IterTemporis]

Ron may be pro-life, but.. correct me if I am wrong, did he not say that he would let the states decide whether or not to be pro-life or pro-choice? So, in essence, his stance is meaningless, it is only his personal belief. His opinion would not represent every single state.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Seriously? That's probably what turned them to Socialism in the first place.Being spoiled brats who take their freedom for granted turned them to socialism. They should talk to people who have actually lived under a socialist system.

[matt0611]

Being spoiled brats who take their freedom for granted turned them to socialism. They should talk to people who have actually lived under a socialist system.

They should go visit cuba for a few weeks.

I can't believe how they post pictures of Karl Marx like he's some kind of hero. Talk about someone who actually WAS racist...

If anyone is interested in listening to what living under socialism was like, look up any speeches by Yuri Maltsev on youtube. Very informative and humorous speeches.

[free.alive]

It will be obnoxious if people promote this thread more than the important one:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?316241-Ron-Paul-will-attend-an-HQ-Grand-Opening-in-Baton-Rouge-LA-on-Saturday-9-23!

And everyone, please ask the mods to change the day in the title to Friday! Thanks!

[Eric21ND]

The Khmer Rouge worked out great for society...err

[eleganz]

This is interesting, they wouldn't be attacking us like this unless they were SURE we had a real strong chance at winning this...?

I mean...don't they have better more productive things to do than to protest a candidate that 'SUPPOSEDLY' isn't top tier?

Either way, I hope you guys outnumber them 20-1, all LSU Ron Paul supporters come out for this one! they'll be scared to pass out their flyers if the whole crowd were there to welcome our hero.

[speciallyblend]

Ron will be speaking at LSU in Baton Rouge next friday. A student progressive socialist group will be there handing out Anti-Paul slim jims, looks to be about a dozen or so students. If you are able to make it, please come and show our numbers. They seem to be attacking Paul on his pro-life stand, they call it anti-woman :rolleyes:, Civil Rights Act, even out right lying and saying Paul has said he wouldn't have repealed Jim Crow laws, and saying he is anti-union.

I'm thinking about standing right next to them with my own slim jims.

here is their facebook for the event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=204651862933950

awesome take pics and give us updates, keep up the good work:)

do you have a phone number or contact for this group so we can set them straight before hand and let them know we will be out there to hold them accountable on their lies!!

[speciallyblend]

Being spoiled brats who take their freedom for granted turned them to socialism. They should talk to people who have actually lived under a socialist system.

in college towns , they are known as trustfund babies!!

[Give me liberty]

Eh? they are all bunch of High School Teens they kinda look brainwashed to me. No offence.

They should stay out of politics.

[Esoteric]

bump. Just because of this, we should have 5 more dozen people attend.

[BUSHLIED]

It's amazing how disgusting some people think freedom is.

It's not that they reject freedom, their socialist ideas are perceived as being superior such that they think it will be more beneficial to society...

[Airborn]

awesome take pics and give us updates, keep up the good work:)

do you have a phone number or contact for this group so we can set them straight before hand and let them know we will be out there to hold them accountable on their lies!!

Will take pics and post :)

I don't know any of their contact info besides facebooks and It's being run by the same people that run this campus group: http://www.facebook.com/groups/slaplsu/

[Airborn]

bump. Just because of this, we should have 5 more dozen people attend.

We got 345 attending on facebook. But it'll be alot more then that counting family and friends of those attending on facebook, plus students and offline supporters that hear about it.

[fearthereaperx]

someone make slimjims that show how Ron Paul is more progressive compared to Obama

[kojirodensetsu]

Whoa hey we've got people protesting us. Progress!

[qwerty]

It means we are winning, cause they are worried!

[TER]

be careful and mind our manners guys

This.

[ronpaultag]

Remind them they are in the US of fuckin A.

USA USA USA!!! WOOP WOOP!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_664t4rIGYM

[MJU1983]

At first I thought it was just a big joke....if those people are serious...my god. Makes me lose faith in humanity and the future of our country.

[MJU1983]

Someone should definitely post this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPuINIqhEE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPuINIqhEE

Dr. Yuri N. Maltsev received his MA in history and social sciences at Moscow State University and his PhD in economics at the Institute for Labor Research in Moscow. He currently is a professor at Carthage College in Kenosha, Wisconsin. During his time in Russia, Dr. Maltsev was a member of a team of Soviet economists that worked on President Mikhail Gorbachev’s policy of perestroika.

http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Yuri_N._Maltsev

[Disconsolate]

Wow. Those kids commenting have no idea what they're talking about.

"I think the Glass-Steagall Act act lead to the housing bubble" Are you fucking kidding me? Allowing diversification of risk lead to the greatest recession since 1929. Yeah, that makes sense champ.

[Disconsolate]

Someone should definitely post this video:


Posted for ya.

[Tinnuhana]

"Notorious anti-everyone politician..." ???
Who's behind all this hate?
(Okay, okay, Church Lady.) :p

[Cowlesy]

Well if the group tries to disrupt Ron's speech, I think that's an act of aggression as they are limiting Ron's ability to speak, and your ability to listen to him. Two things which cause them no harm. If they're outstanding handing out slim jims, I have no problem with that.

Just sayin'

[LawnWake]

I like how some of these kids constantly bring up corporations.

I can't be the only one who is constantly attacked by socialists for supposedly supporting big corprations, while DESEPRATELY trying to explain to them that I don't believe that a group should collectively take limited responsibility for their actions and that I'm for a free market, which means a market that isn't regulated by just the government, OR by private interests through the government?

It's so headache inducing. 'DUDE, YES, CORPORATIONS = BAD, I KNOW, WE BELIEVE THE SAME THING, STOP SAYING THAT'.

[MJU1983]

Wow. Those kids commenting have no idea what they're talking about.

"I think the Glass-Steagall Act act lead to the housing bubble" Are you fucking kidding me? Allowing diversification of risk lead to the greatest recession since 1929. Yeah, that makes sense champ.

Anyone who parrots "Glass-Steagall" in regards to the housing/financial crisis, chances are 95-99% they have no idea what it is or what part was actually repealed. To quote the great Dr. Tom Woods, "So what was Glass-Steagall? Alright, 1933 it was a regulation that separated investment banking from commercial banking. So, commercial banks could not deal in or underwrite securities except basically riskless ones like government, or government supported securities. And investment banks couldn't offer deposits. And then finally, investment and commercial banks could not be controlled by the same holding company. So now when we have the alleged repeal of Glass-Steagall, it was only that last one that was repealed, just that last one, that now commercial and investment banks can indeed be parented by the same holding company. Commercial banks are still forbidden to deal in securities. They can purchase them, if they think they are good investments, and then they can sell them if they think they are no longer good investments or they need the cash. But they've always been allowed to do that, that's never been restricted. There is no repealed regulation that would have solved this problem. Banks were always allowed to securitize loans, they were always allowed to do the various things that they did. The relationship between investment and commercial banks had ZERO to do with the financial crisis. No commercial bank has enough assets to possibly do any serious damage to an investment bank, much less cause it collapse entirely. And there are severe regulatory firewalls between the institutions that again, make this entirely implausible. The financial crisis occurred because banks did a lousy job in traditional banking activities, they made bad loans, they weren't doing some new fangled thing that deregulation had made possible...there is no repealed regulation that you can point to that would have prevented this. In fact, if you look at the regulatory agencies that are in charge of the financial sector in real terms, since 1980, funding for them has tripled."

There was no lack of regulation or deregulation that you can look to for an explanation of the housing bubble crash. There are already 115 agencies regulating the U.S. financial sector.

The crisis was just another Fed created bubble and failed banking policies (bad banking). Moral Hazard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_hazard)? They (the Fed) literally control our fiscal and monetary policy. They can counterfeit our currency. They can fix prices (interest rates) and give false signals on the health of the economy which promotes malinvestment.

Regulators failed to identify the growing problems in the US economy - remember we were told that everything was "fine" and "robust".

Greenspan, 2005 - housing market conditions were "encouraging".
Bernanke, 2006 - "lending standards are sound".

Prudential Regulation:
For every $100 a bank holds in standard loans it has to hold only $10 in capital.
For every $100 a bank holds in mortgages it has to hold only $5 in capital.
For every $100 a bank holds in AAA rated mortgage backed securities it has to hold only $2 in capital.

I wonder what basket everyone put their eggs in with all that cheap credit, and money pumping the Fed gave them at our expense?

Greenspan, Bernanke, ratings agencies, and regulators were complicit. Liars? Perhaps. Did they think that the system would hold together longer than it did? Perhaps... I think they knew the crisis was coming but really didn't care because remember...the Fed is not there for OUR benefit so much as it is there for its member banks' benefit. SEE: TARP, aka "the bailouts".

This whole thing is worth listening to but if you want to hear Dr. Woods talk about the above, tune in ~28:05:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcAX0oX9ANU

[leonster]

This is awesome news, actually. For a Republican primary--what better thing to have happen than socialist/Marxist far lefters protesting you? :)

[Oddone]

They won't garner any support from other Republicans. Good sign though! I have a feeling they will be vastly outnumbered at this event, to the point there attempts will be useless.

[Eric21ND]

Don't allow those fools close to Dr. Paul or to disrupt the event. Also take them to the wood shed intellectually. Someone print this and hand it to them if they bring up big bad corporations

http://libertyposter.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/composite41.png

[John of Des Moines]

Word must've gotten around. Their facebook page is gone (at least for me).

[Elfshadow]

I still see it.

[John of Des Moines]

I get a "Page Not Found" reply.

[Elfshadow]

Can you connect to any facebook page? Maybe your behind a DNS that's crashed.

[John of Des Moines]

Can you connect to any facebook page? Maybe your behind a DNS that's crashed.

Can get to facebook . com - had problems posting to a yahoo page earlier.

[R3volutionJedi]

lol

[Feeding the Abscess]

Wow. Those kids commenting have no idea what they're talking about.

"I think the Glass-Steagall Act act lead to the housing bubble" Are you fucking kidding me? Allowing diversification of risk lead to the greatest recession since 1929. Yeah, that makes sense champ.

Either way, Ron voted against repeal, so they're pissing in the wind (as usual).


Ron may be pro-life, but.. correct me if I am wrong, did he not say that he would let the states decide whether or not to be pro-life or pro-choice? So, in essence, his stance is meaningless, it is only his personal belief. His opinion would not represent every single state.

Yup. The benefits of decentralized government - you can argue community empowerment to a progressive with a straight face.


Great idea. Ron's interview at the start of this campaign on Hardball with Chris Matthews would be great on Jim Crow Laws, as well. But I don't know if anyone would watch it in that setting.

Believe it or not, this is actually where they're getting this from. The transcript erroneously stated that Ron "wouldn't vote against the Jim Crow," when in fact he said in the interview that he would.

[ericams2786]

It's amazing how disgusting some people think freedom is.

It's not really surprising considering that Progressives aren't about liberty and freedom anyway, it's about control. Their is a reason the early Progressives shared an ideological root with fascism...

[TruckinMike]

Ron will be speaking at LSU in Baton Rouge next friday. A student progressive socialist group will be there handing out Anti-Paul slim jims...They seem to be attacking Paul on his pro-life stand, they call it anti-woman :rolleyes:, Civil Rights Act, even out right lying and saying Paul has said he wouldn't have repealed Jim Crow laws, and saying he is anti-union....

This a great opportunity to show the Main stream Republicans that Ron is despised by the left. It puts him on their side ---> thus equaling lots 'O Primary votes. So what ever you do, make sure and get those Paul bashing pro-murder cultist on video.:)

TMike

[kojirodensetsu]

Yeah. Bring a camera. Post it to the tubes. Hopefully this event will get media attention.

[Brett85]

So, in essence, his stance is meaningless, it is only his personal belief. His opinion would not represent every single state.

That's why it's hard to get pro life voters to support Ron.

[acptulsa]

Either way, Ron voted against repeal, so they're pissing in the wind (as usual).

Good fact for the anti-protestors to have on hand. File and don't forget it.


Yup. The benefits of decentralized government - you can argue community empowerment to a progressive with a straight face.

And not just on abortion. Their centralized government is what is enabling this corporatism they don't know how to fix. State regulation would require the corporations buy some fifty-seven state and territorial governments. Maybe y'all should chant, 'Washington regulation is one stop shopping!'

[QUOTE=Feeding the Abscess;3565189]Believe it or not, this is actually where they're getting this from. The transcript erroneously stated that Ron "wouldn't vote against the Jim Crow," when in fact he said in the interview that he would.

MSM lies, liberal credibility dies.


That's why it's hard to get pro life voters to support Ron.

No, MSM lies are why. State choice is the most promising thing to come down the pro-life pike since Roe v. Wade set the cause back. Just don't tell the liberals that.

[CJLauderdale4]

Looks as though the YAL has challenged those socialist folks to a debate. :)

Socialists don't want to debate issues....they're always right.


Remind them they are in the US of fuckin A.

USA USA USA!!! WOOP WOOP!!!

...and so sorry...it's the USSA to a Socialist.

[Suzu]

What is needed is a new Facebook group called "Socialists for Ron Paul". It would probably be a "group" of one or two.

[airborne373]

I would like to thank these so called "progressives" who on record changed their name from "Communist" in the 1930's because they thought "progressive" would work better with the public. They will offer quite the counter-balance to liberty, freedom and free market economics.

The police union in our town is defending an officer named David Bisard who was drunk in uniform driving his squad car while IMing another cop to arrange sex and hit 3 motorcyclist killing one and badly injuring one and injuring the third. The F.O.P. has covered up his crime, used a technicality to keep him from any charges what so ever. Provded the drunk amoral sexual degenerate with pay and free legal representation at tax payer expense. That is what public employee unions do at your expense.

[LawnWake]

I'd personally refrain from attacking socialists personally for being 'socialists' and just worry about the implications of socialism itself. At the end of the day, all of them want a better society as well, and while we may think that they're misguided (and trust me, I am getting sick to my stomach to none of them knowing the difference between state capitalism and free-market capitalism) we're better of uniting on the things we agree on than resort to petty namecalling and cold war era McCarthyan rhetoric.

They're just a number of misguided kids who feel in their hearts that they're right and want to improve America their way. Rather than spam their Facebook with stuff they don't understand (not because they're too dumb, but because they're too stubborn), just show up and counter their activivism with your own. At the end of the day, libertarianism will win over the people's hearts.

And btw, they're hardly 'socialists' if they're Obama supporters. NO actual socialist would support Obama. He's a 'common enemy'.

[kazmlsj]

I'm thinking about standing right next to them with my own slim jims.

Please be careful AirBorn - these kinds of people don't believe in free speech - except for themselves.

[acptulsa]

I'm thinking about standing right next to them with my own slim jims.

Please be careful AirBorn - these kinds of people don't believe in free speech - except for themselves.

Aw, hell! The cause needs more martyrs... :D

[trey4sports]

Hah! - we even have protesters! Pat yourself on the back.

[CTRattlesnake]

Uhhh no....socialism clashes with nearly all parts of Dr.Paul's constitutional and liberty based philosophy.

[jason43]

You need to focus on commonality, there is a lot more than you think.

Socialists believe in ending the bailouts to the bank cartels, they know that the government stole the peoples money to prop up the banks. They believe in ending the wars.

The problem with them is that they want to take over the corporate control of the people and hand it to the biggest monopoly on the planet, the government. Ask them what the biggest monopoly in the country is? Talk to them about the government stealing money from the people and regulating small business out of existance. Talk to them about the private banking institutions inflating the middle class into poverty. Talk to them about the drug war.

They agree with us on problems, they for some reason separate government from corporations. They totally misunderstand our system and economics. They think corporatism and fascism are "capitalism". They would be easier to either convert or ally with than you think.

[acptulsa]

You need to focus on commonality, there is a lot more than you think.

Socialists believe in ending the bailouts to the bank cartels, they know that the government stole the peoples money to prop up the banks. They believe in ending the wars.

The problem with them is that they want to take over the corporate control of the people and hand it to the biggest monopoly on the planet, the government. Ask them what the biggest monopoly in the country is? Talk to them about the government stealing money from the people and regulating small business out of existance. Talk to them about the private banking institutions inflating the middle class into poverty. Talk to them about the drug war.

They agree with us on problems, they for some reason separate government from corporations. They totally misunderstand our system and economics. They think corporatism and fascism are "capitalism". They would be easier to either convert or ally with than you think.

Exactly right. That's why I said earlier in this thread to chant centralizing power in Washington gives corporations one stop shopping. Hits 'em where they hurt the most. Then tell them that Ron Paul believes in the Tenth Amendment, so they can have all the state level socialism they want under a Paul administration.

Then if they get into power locally, leave the state.

[Philadelphia76]

On the down side- I honestly think serious hardcore SOCIALISTS (really?) are just too far gone for us to find commonality with. Yeah- they may be against wars and bailouts- but they have no problem whatsoever using governmental force to achieve all their other ends (most especially wealth redistribution and control over capital). Speak with them peacefully and respectably if you really want to- but I wouldn't expect any of it to bear much fruit.

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE- having a bunch of raving mad socialists protesting Dr. Paul would seem to be GREAT imagery in a Republican primary- especially since one of the many dastardly ways in which establishment Republicans and neocons attempt to discredit Dr. Paul is by calling him a "darling of the Left".:)

[Airborn]

I'm thinking about standing right next to them with my own slim jims.

Please be careful AirBorn - these kinds of people don't believe in free speech - except for themselves.

Thanks, but they would be really stupid to try anything at this event. The LSU Union Theater can hold up to 1,300 people and from what the promoters are saying it's going to be a full house. :) And they can hand out information all day as long as they don't try to start anything or disrupt the event they are free to protest as they wish.

[one male human]

Am I wrong in saying, by the looks of their facebook page, they seem to be for ron paul?

[Airborn]

Am I wrong in saying, by the looks of their facebook page, they seem to be for ron paul?

well thats because it's been taken over by Ron Paul supporters posting on their wall. they have 18 attending their "protest" on facebook, but a few are ron paul supporters who clicked "i'm attending" :cool: so it's even less then that.

[Eric21ND]

I hope we have our own handouts that refute whatever propaganda the Che t-shirt wearing clan has.

[PaulConventionWV]

Hah! - we even have protesters! Pat yourself on the back.

Yeah, this almost feels like we're in a band and we just got our first major record label. Pat yourselves on the back, guys. We've attracted the attention of the socialists.

[aravoth]

you guys are going about this the wrong way, completely the wrong way.

Get some of your smartassed friends together, dress like a hipster, make HUUUUGE signs that say, "FREEDOM SUCKS", or "OBAMA IS LORD", or "EVERYONE SHOULD BE ON WELFARE", "KILL FOR PEACE", "GIVE ME DEATH INSTEAD OF LIBERTY", "THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS AN ASSHOLE", "I DESERVE ALL OF YOUR STUFF", etc..

Get in the front, be as extreme as you can, get in front of any CAMERAS there. And be obnoxious.

In short, do what they do to us all the time, and watch them mentally explode with a smile on your face.

[free.alive]

You guys are going about this the wrong way. Promote the damn events and stop the bs over a bunch of idiot kids who probably won't even show up.

[MJU1983]

you guys are going about this the wrong way, completely the wrong way.

Get some of your smartassed friends together, dress like a hipster, make HUUUUGE signs that say, "FREEDOM SUCKS", or "OBAMA IS LORD", or "EVERYONE SHOULD BE ON WELFARE", "KILL FOR PEACE", "GIVE ME DEATH INSTEAD OF LIBERTY", "THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS AN ASSHOLE", "I DESERVE ALL OF YOUR STUFF", etc..

Get in the front, be as extreme as you can, get in front of any CAMERAS there. And be obnoxious.

In short, do what they do to us all the time, and watch them mentally explode with a smile on your face.

Ah...I like your style.

[Cowlesy]

you guys are going about this the wrong way, completely the wrong way.

Get some of your smartassed friends together, dress like a hipster, make HUUUUGE signs that say, "FREEDOM SUCKS", or "OBAMA IS LORD", or "EVERYONE SHOULD BE ON WELFARE", "KILL FOR PEACE", "GIVE ME DEATH INSTEAD OF LIBERTY", "THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS AN ASSHOLE", "I DESERVE ALL OF YOUR STUFF", etc..

Get in the front, be as extreme as you can, get in front of any CAMERAS there. And be obnoxious.

In short, do what they do to us all the time, and watch them mentally explode with a smile on your face.

You are the real TruthWarrior.

+rep

[jason43]

you guys are going about this the wrong way, completely the wrong way.

Get some of your smartassed friends together, dress like a hipster, make HUUUUGE signs that say, "FREEDOM SUCKS", or "OBAMA IS LORD", or "EVERYONE SHOULD BE ON WELFARE", "KILL FOR PEACE", "GIVE ME DEATH INSTEAD OF LIBERTY", "THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS AN ASSHOLE", "I DESERVE ALL OF YOUR STUFF", etc..

Get in the front, be as extreme as you can, get in front of any CAMERAS there. And be obnoxious.

In short, do what they do to us all the time, and watch them mentally explode with a smile on your face.

Now this... is awesome.

[TheViper]

Am I wrong in saying, by the looks of their facebook page, they seem to be for ron paul?
No, it's just that it's being overrun by Dr. Paul supporters so most of the posts are pro-Paul.

I myself am enjoying deconstructing their little talking points.

[Crickett]

That's why it's hard to get pro life voters to support Ron.
Ya but the whole thing has to do with force. People in America should not be FORCED to do things other people think are right.