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hillbilly123069
09-15-2011, 01:59 PM
This was originally released in 1961. Looking at the US today, they're about to start the final phase of completing this plan.
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html

Vessol
09-15-2011, 02:07 PM
Why would the U.S Federal Government disband that which keeps it in power?

wormyguy
09-15-2011, 02:08 PM
Really? Fantastic! :D

hillbilly123069
09-15-2011, 02:23 PM
Read the link. It has all the answers you will want and then some.

Vessol
09-15-2011, 02:25 PM
Read the link. It has all the answers you will want and then some.

Can you summarize? I'm not a big fan of being given a multi-page document and then told "Well, the answer is in THERE somewhere!"

jkr
09-15-2011, 02:28 PM
here is whut u need 2 know
"U.N. peace-keeping powers would be strengthened:
Measures would be taken to develop and strengthen United Nations arrangements for arbitration, for the development of international law, and for the establishment in Stage II of a permanent U.N. Peace Force."

Vessol
09-15-2011, 02:37 PM
here is whut u need 2 know
"U.N. peace-keeping powers would be strengthened:
Measures would be taken to develop and strengthen United Nations arrangements for arbitration, for the development of international law, and for the establishment in Stage II of a permanent U.N. Peace Force."

Disbanding national armies in favor of an international army may be some globalists wet dream, but I can tell you already that the U.S is not going to get rid of it's Department of Armed Thugs.

PreDeadMan
09-15-2011, 06:35 PM
I'll get the kegs somebody get the hookers and blow we're going to party baby! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ruYifz0LvxU/TibEfgFU68I/AAAAAAAAC_s/apzYalwvPvo/s1600/funny_pictures_dancing_cat_RE_The_Newest_Sharenato r-s500x375-103108.jpg

CaptainAmerica
09-15-2011, 06:42 PM
This was originally released in 1961. Looking at the US today, they're about to start the final phase of completing this plan.
http://dosfan.lib.uic.edu/ERC/arms/freedom_war.html Until the world military comes in to replace it as the protocol.

Czolgosz
09-15-2011, 06:44 PM
I'll get the kegs somebody get the hookers and blow we're going to party baby! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ruYifz0LvxU/TibEfgFU68I/AAAAAAAAC_s/apzYalwvPvo/s1600/funny_pictures_dancing_cat_RE_The_Newest_Sharenato r-s500x375-103108.jpg


lol

HOLLYWOOD
09-15-2011, 06:48 PM
Word mix up


Please replace DISBAND with EXPAND

LibertyEagle
09-15-2011, 06:48 PM
That little document is one of the reasons conservatives hated Kennedy so much.

Seraphim
09-15-2011, 06:50 PM
I'd rather have a bunch of State militaries warring against each other, than a one world government army. That would be war against the sum of humanity.

LibertyEagle
09-15-2011, 06:56 PM
Really? Fantastic! :D


I'll get the kegs somebody get the hookers and blow we're going to party baby!

You are HAPPY about the U.S. military and the American citizenry being disarmed and the only people having guns are the UN?

Either you guys didn't take the time to read it, or you are nuts.

acptulsa
09-15-2011, 07:02 PM
I'd rather have a bunch of State militaries warring against each other, than a one world government army. That would be war against the sum of humanity.

And with one superpower in the world, we're damned near there. And the only reason the people of this country aren't up in arms about it is because most of that army has 'U.S.' on its uniforms--for the moment. But you notice Congress didn't declare war on Libya, the U.N. did...

LibertyEagle
09-15-2011, 07:03 PM
here is whut u need 2 know
"U.N. peace-keeping powers would be strengthened:
Measures would be taken to develop and strengthen United Nations arrangements for arbitration, for the development of international law, and for the establishment in Stage II of a permanent U.N. Peace Force."

That is hardly all they need to know.

It is not long. It needs to be read. It includes disarmament of our country, while building up the UN "peace keeping" army.

pcosmar
09-15-2011, 07:07 PM
It seems a "Proposal" rather than a "Plan".
And what would happen is not the end of the US Armed Forces,, but incorporation into the UN Peace Keeping army.

It is essentially that today, aside from the doubletalk. The US is the UN's Police Force.

Yet another good reason to get OUT of the UN.

LibertyEagle
09-15-2011, 07:14 PM
It seems a "Proposal" rather than a "Plan".
And what would happen is not the end of the US Armed Forces,, but incorporation into the UN Peace Keeping army.

It is essentially that today, aside from the doubletalk. The US is the UN's Police Force.

Yet another good reason to get OUT of the UN.

It is more than a proposal if they have been acting on it. This document was written in 1961. So, to say well, we are essentially that today, is I think the point the OP is making.

AFPVet
09-15-2011, 07:20 PM
here is what u need 2 know
"U.N. peace-keeping powers would be strengthened:
Measures would be taken to develop and strengthen United Nations arrangements for arbitration, for the development of international law, and for the establishment in Stage II of a permanent U.N. Peace Force."

Exactly! The U.N. is going to be in charge. Folks, this is what Operation Vampire Killer predicted.

Agorism
09-15-2011, 07:20 PM
Obviously the "plan" failed.

pcosmar
09-15-2011, 07:22 PM
It is more than a proposal if they have been acting on it. This document was written in 1961. So, to say well, we are essentially that today, is I think the point the OP is making.

Well this is true,, though we still give lip service to our national sovereignty.
We are acting under authority of the UN,, which may have seemed a good idea to some when it seemed the US had some "control" of the UN.
I am opposed to a One World Government. but it is inevitable it seems.

I would prefer to return to the Constitutional model of Militia as Defense and no standing Army.

AFPVet
09-15-2011, 07:24 PM
Well this is true,, though we still give lip service to our national sovereignty.
We are acting under authority of the UN,, which may have seemed a good idea to some when it seemed the US had some "control" of the UN.
I am opposed to a One World Government. but it is inevitable it seems.

I would prefer to return to the Constitutional model of Militia as Defense and no standing Army.

This seems to work for the Swiss; however, they have a slightly different "militia".

pcosmar
09-15-2011, 07:25 PM
Obviously the "plan" failed.

What part is "Obvious".
We went into Iraq under UN authority.
We went into Afghanistan under UN authority.

Korea,, Libya, Bosnia etc.

The military hasn't been "disbanded",, just placed under command and control of the UN.

Mach
09-16-2011, 12:41 AM
People don't listen sometimes, no matter how in the face the proof is.....

a summary....


http://www.magic-city-news.com/Bud_Landry_43/United_States_Code_amp_Public_Law_30153015.shtml



United States Code & Public Law
By Bud Landry
Feb 7, 2005 - 6:36:00 AM

Those of you who believe in the status quo and are happy with the way things are, I recommend that you read no further. Those of you who are not happy and would like to protect yourself and your loved ones future should read this post and consider following the instructions below.

You should go to your local library and ask the librarian for the U.S. Code books. These contain past and present Public Laws.

Open Volume 9; The page numbers are in the center near the middle binding. The section numbers are along the edges.

Turn to page 651. Here you will find Public law 87-297 which calls for the United States to eliminate it’s armed forces. This law was signed for the United States in 1961 by John F. Kennedy and every president since has worked to enact it’s provisions. The government knows you will not approve which is why they want to take away your firearms. [This is Title 22 USC section 2551]

Turn to page 652. Here you will find the definition of what the government means by, “disarmament.” The disarmament also calls for the elimination of our armed forces. It also calls for the elimination of weapons of all kinds. [Title 22 USC 2552]

Turn to page 654. Here you will find it stated as item [a] “ control and reduction and elimination of armed forces… “ and as item [d] ...Elimination of armed forces...” What you need to know is that your armed forces are being eliminated and relinquished from national control which in turn, wipes out our sovereignty as a nation. In two stages, we will have no more army, no more navy, no more air force. In the third stage, we will have a “ZERO” military. Before stage one closes, all citizen owned guns will be banned. [This is title 22 USC section 2571 [a].

Public Law 87-279 is further explained in the State Dept. Document called Publication 7277. Your librarian can also furnish you a copy. Also ask the librarian to get you a copy of “The Blue Print for the Peace Race.” It is a thirty five page booklet printed by the United States Arms Control and Disarmament Agency as Publication 4 -General Series 3 - released May of 1962. Publication 4 is the unabridged version of State Dept. Document 7277.

Both of these booklets explain how our military is to be reduced to 2.1 million men. China and Russia are to be reduced to that level also. At this stage we are in stage one at which time we are to transfer [on a permanent basis] one- half of our armed forces to be merged with the Chinese and Russian armies. In stage 2, the remaining one- half of our armed forces is then turned over to the Security Council of the United Nations. The person in charge of the merged armies MUST, by agreement, AWAYS BE A RUSSIAN. The world’s small nations will turn 100% of their armies over to the same under-secretary of the security council, in stage 2. President George Bush and Admiral James Crowe [have referred] to this process as being in “transition.”

Turn to page 655. On this page of Volume 9 of the United States Code, read “Policy Formation.” The directives there [written in 1963 to pacify objectors] are supposedly to restrain anyone from disarmament, reducing or limiting our armaments, or taking guns away from the people unless it is pursuant to the treaty-making powers of the president, or it is authorized by further legislation by the Congress. [this is Title 22 Section 2573]

Every couple of years the House of Representatives votes to appropriate funds for this ongoing program. Since P.L. 87-297 was first passed into law in 1961, there has been 18 updates to it - all bad, with no deletions of these issues I lay before you now. The Congress knows that the plan includes the policing of the United States by foreign troops. [The world Army they are now forming in Europe]. The Congress is allowing our bases to be closed down, except for those that will be used by the world army. You will find that in Publication 7277 and in “The Blueprint for the Peace Race.”

If the President and the Congress can promote a “Constitutional Convention” you will find yourself with two new constitutions [Communist in structure] which in one in states Article V111, Section 12: “No person shall bear arms or possess lethal weapons except the police and members of the armed forces ...”

The Congress has these documents and is on record in Senate hearings seeking ways to install these Constitutions. Ask the librarian for “Revision of the United Nations Charter-Hearings before a Subcommittee [Foreign Relations] Feb. 2-20, 1950 U.S. Government Printing Office.” Nothing has changed since. They are still viable. The ultimate goal is to be reached in Stage 3 of the disarmament process is to “proceed to a point where no state [nation] would have the military power to challenge the progressively strengthened United Peace Force ...”

jmdrake
09-16-2011, 12:09 PM
Well this is true,, though we still give lip service to our national sovereignty.
We are acting under authority of the UN,, which may have seemed a good idea to some when it seemed the US had some "control" of the UN.
I am opposed to a One World Government. but it is inevitable it seems.

I would prefer to return to the Constitutional model of Militia as Defense and no standing Army.

This! Folks get caught up in the false left/right paradigm. "OMG! The globalists want to disband the U.S. military so lets have more military spending!" (I know that's not LibertyEagle's position, but it is the position of many on the right). The left is like "The U.S. military is bullying everyone so let's strengthen the U.N.!" Most don't realize the doublecross that's going on.

PaulConventionWV
09-16-2011, 04:15 PM
It is more than a proposal if they have been acting on it. This document was written in 1961. So, to say well, we are essentially that today, is I think the point the OP is making.

Ah, yes. Around the time they started planning the EU. It's come a long way since then.

LibertyEagle
09-16-2011, 04:24 PM
Well this is true,, though we still give lip service to our national sovereignty.
Indeed. Including some on this very forum, who even go so far as to believe that borders are fictitious.

We are acting under authority of the UN,, which may have seemed a good idea to some when it seemed the US had some "control" of the UN.
It never was a good idea. Back when it was formed, I never met an American who wanted UN dictates to take precedence over our own Constitution. The same is not true today, sadly. They are fools, and in some cases, traitors.


I am opposed to a One World Government. but it is inevitable it seems.
Over my dead body.


I would prefer to return to the Constitutional model of Militia as Defense and no standing Army.
I would be happy, for now, to get out of the UN and kick it out of the US.

ProBlue33
09-16-2011, 05:17 PM
Have you guys ever considered that should Ron Paul become president and follow through on his promise to get America of the role of world policeman, it would default to the UN. Now you say yes but Ron Paul doesn't want to empower the UN in fact he wants to reduce it's power. Have you thought what the world would be like after a Ron Paul foreign policy after 8 years.
America closes it's bases down all around the world, it will not involve itself in conflicts that don't threaten it's national interests, the world is a more peaceful place. However bad stuff still flares up here and there, and who is dealing with it, that's right the UN.
The void America leaves after 8 years of a Paul administration, has been filled by the UN. He didn't want it that way, but it happened anyway.

Working Poor
09-16-2011, 06:03 PM
scary stuff
Ron Paul 2012