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FrankRep
09-13-2011, 08:12 PM
http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/9/1/6/0/600_10837216.jpeg (http://www.jbs.org/)




HuffingtonPost.com columnist Andrew Reinbach expressed concern that the tea party is propagating John Birch Society ideas, opining that the JBS has become the intellectual seed bank of the right.



Is The John Birch Society the "Intellectual Seed Bank of the Right"? (http://thenewamerican.com/culture/education/8973-is-the-john-birch-society-the-qintellectual-seed-bank-of-the-rightq)


Thomas R. Eddlem | The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/)
13 September 2011


HuffingtonPost columnist Andrew Reinbach expressed concern September 12 that the Tea Party is propagating the ideas of The John Birch Society (http://www.jbs.org/). In an article entitled "The John Birch Society's Reality (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/john-birch-society_b_958207.html)," Reinbach noted that the JBS is "a group Barry Goldwater and William F. Buckley Jr once thought too extreme, but which has since become the intellectual seed bank of the right."

Reinbach warned his fellow leftists that "if you really want to understand why so many Republicans are the way they are these days, an outline of JBS beliefs is a good place to start." The columnist from the highly trafficked left-wing website then goes into a long excerpt from one of JBS Founder Robert Welch's writings in 1966:



"The one great job left for the Communists is the subjugation of the people of the United States," wrote Welch. "So their exhaustive strategy for achieving their final goal includes the following methods."




"a) The deliberate and insidious breaking down of all morality and of every sound sense of values;

(b) the distortion and destruction of religious influences, especially on the lives of the young;

(c) the constant indoctrination of young and old alike, through our educational system, and through our communications and entertainment media, in a preference for "welfare" and "security" against responsibility and opportunity;

"d) making an ever larger and larger percentage of American industry, commerce, agriculture, education, and individuals accustomed to receiving, and dependent on, government checks;

(e) a constant increase in legislation, taxation, and bureaucracy, leading directly towards one hundred percent government....




Of course, anyone who's paid attention during the more than 35 years since Robert Welch wrote those words realizes that all of the above has happened, and is still happening, if not under the communist hammer and sickle banner.

Moreover, the JBS motto, "Less government, more responsibility, and — with God's help — a better world," fits in perfectly with the Tea Party message of lower taxes and less government. Reinbach frets that "Among other things, the JBS has been active in creating and training the Tea Party."

For its part, John Birch Society officials admit that its members have acted as inspiration and occasional trainers within the Tea Party movement. "The John Birch Society is absolutely delighted at the Tea Party movement because it got so many people off the couch," John Birch Society President John F. McManus told The New American (http://thenewamerican.com/). "Many of the Tea Party people are asking good questions, and they are finding out that the best place to get good answers is the JBS."

McManus told The New American that earlier this month he had been a speaker on a New York City harbor cruise with 250 people — sponsored by five tea party organizations — and found the crowd very supportive. "These people, most of them, are saying to themselves, we've got to start listening to the Birch Society," McManus said. Many already have.

But Reinbach of the Huffington Post is worried (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/john-birch-society_b_958207.html) about the Tea Party and its John Birch Society ideological ancestors. "I myself have nothing to say about this perspective, aside from observing that I'd prefer its believers didn't try to impose it on me, or my country."

Of course, The John Birch Society and the Tea Party don't seek to impose anything on Reinbach's nation. Rather, they want to stop big government officials from imposing the nation a top-down, one-size-fits-all socialist solution on the nation. McManus noted that the JBS would not "impose" anything on any individual. "Facts that are ignored are still facts," McManus said. "People who are opposed to The John Birch Society simply don't want to look at the facts. An honest survey of what Society Founder Robert Welch has stated in the past would lead any honest person to say he was a prophet."

Indeed, Robert Welch pegged Fidel Castro as a communist in the 1958 founding document of the John Birch Society (http://www.archive.org/stream/TheBlueBook/MicrosoftWord-Document1_djvu.txt), while the New York Times was still lauding Castro as an agrarian reformer (http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/books/matthews/matthews022457.pdf) and Time magazine calling him an anti-communist (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,864265,00.html). Welch also accurately summed up the political career of Richard Nixon in the same 1958 document (http://www.archive.org/stream/TheBlueBook/MicrosoftWord-Document1_djvu.txt), 16 years before the Watergate scandal became public knowledge:



He is an extremely smart man. He is one of the ablest, shrewdest, most disingenuous, and slipperiest politicians that ever showed up on the American scene.... He has been a rider of waves, so far as public support was concerned, without caring whether the particular wave at any given time was moving left or right; and a manipulator, of uncanny skill, behind the scenes.... I don't think Nixon is committed to anything other than the career of Richard Nixon.



SOURCE:
http://thenewamerican.com/culture/education/8973-is-the-john-birch-society-the-qintellectual-seed-bank-of-the-rightq

FrankRep
09-13-2011, 08:14 PM
Ron Paul at the 50th Anniversary of the John Birch Society


http://www.vimeo.com/19602654


Ron Paul Addresses John Birch Society (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/409)

Brian Farmer | The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
08 October 2008



Dr. Ron Paul, Texas congressman and 2008 Republican presidential candidate, was the featured speaker Saturday evening, October 4 on the final day of the John Birch Society's 50th Anniversary Celebration. The topic of his keynote address was "Restoring the Republic: Lessons From a Presidential Campaign," in which he lectured the audience on how our republic can be restored with groups such as the John Birch Society (JBS) and his own Campaign for Liberty leading the way.

Aratus
09-13-2011, 08:47 PM
the JBS is ahead of
the learning curve...

realtonygoodwin
09-13-2011, 08:56 PM
Unfortunately, the JBS has a very negative reputation and perception.

moderate libertarian
09-13-2011, 09:01 PM
What is JBS stance on torture, foreign interventions like iraq war and massive foreign aid/spending and resulting economic crisis in America?

MRoCkEd
09-13-2011, 09:02 PM
Not really. They're a good group but I worry they can't salvage their reputation.

FrankRep
09-13-2011, 09:04 PM
What is JBS stance on torture, foreign interventions like iraq war and massive foreign aid/spending and resulting economic crisis in America?
- Against torture
- Pro Non-interventionist
- Against Iraq War
- Against foreign aid
- Pro Constitution

Also,

Congressman Ron Paul endorses The John Birch Society
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?132355-Congressman-Ron-Paul-endorses-The-John-Birch-Society

FrankRep
09-13-2011, 09:06 PM
Not really. They're a good group but I worry they can't salvage their reputation.
Time is proving the John Birch Society RIGHT all along.

The Neocons and Socialists have demonized the John Birch Society like they have demonized Ron Paul.

moderate libertarian
09-13-2011, 09:27 PM
- Against torture
- Pro Non-interventionist
- Against Iraq War
- Against foreign aid
- Pro Constitution



Ok thanks. I was under the impression that JBS was mixed bag with conservative but also pro interventionist war leanings. I need to educate myself better on JBS I guess.