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bobbyw24
09-13-2011, 04:29 PM
After the creepy neocon pretended otherwise, in his final FOX days, for ratings reasons. Here, if you can stand him, is the Beckster.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/09/glenn-beck-admits-his-hate-for-ron-paul/

fj45lvr
09-13-2011, 04:41 PM
what do you expect from the Israel firsters?? I didn't watch beck or listen to him but it doesn't surprise me a bit since he is completely sold out to support zionism.

Kylie
09-13-2011, 04:46 PM
What's messed up is that after he said he wouldn't vote for Ron, he spoke of everydamnedpoint that Ron makes and agreed with those points.

purplechoe
09-13-2011, 05:00 PM
Israel first... He's doing the same thing he did to Medina in the last election...

hazek
09-13-2011, 05:15 PM
What a douchebag. I always said not to trust him and I knew he'd never ever endorse Ron.

AGRP
09-13-2011, 05:17 PM
Never trusted him since the Medina incident.

jmdrake
09-13-2011, 05:21 PM
Never trusted him since the Medina incident.

+rep! And shame on everyone that defended Beck after that incident!

ravedown
09-13-2011, 05:23 PM
i may have heard it wrong-but i swear RP was once asked how he would treat israel and i thought his answer was awesome- 'i'd treat them like i'd treat canada." how the hell can anyone argue with that? feel free to correct me on that btw. im sure beck would use a bunch of victim cards in defense of israel etc, but seriously- why treat them differently than any other ally?

CharlesTX
09-13-2011, 05:33 PM
+rep! And shame on everyone that defended Beck after that incident!

+rep on that

Cutlerzzz
09-13-2011, 05:35 PM
Guys, he just needs a little more time. He's turning around.

AuH20
09-13-2011, 05:35 PM
Beck doesn't hate RP. This is Lew Rockwell being his incorrigible self. Beck has a major problem with some core tenets of Paul's world view, which is valid I might add. Now regarding Beck, he's far too cozy with Israel, which is his major fault.

Rael
09-13-2011, 05:39 PM
I don't like GB but he did not express "hate" for Ron Paul, he disagreed with him regarding his foreign policy stance towards Israel.

Sola_Fide
09-13-2011, 06:18 PM
Did anyone actually understand what he said? To me it made absolutely no sense.

rolle
09-13-2011, 06:31 PM
Did anyone actually understand what he said? To me it made absolutely no sense.

I don't believe that Glenn really disagrees with Ron. It seems like Glenn wants to be Ron Paul. Ron is everything Glenn claims he is looking for in a candidate (Integrity, "say what you mean, mean what you say," etc...) but he still refuses to support him. I think he wants credit for the movement that Ron started because its all about feeding his ego. He tries to discredit him without actually disagreeing with him, and then taking all of his ideas as his own. I have watched every interview Ron has had with Glenn and noticed that Glenn has always treated Ron differently than other guests. It's really kind of weird.

emazur
09-13-2011, 06:35 PM
my comment:

This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Beck says bring the troops home, Paul says bring the troops home. Beck says let other countries fight their own wars, Paul says let other countries fight their own wars. In terms of policy there seems to be agreement, but suddenly when Paul brings up the motive for 9/11 attacks, Paul becomes someone Beck would "NEVER" vote for? Beck argued the same as Paul when he appeared on O'Reilly's show: they don't hate us for our freedoms, they hate us for our foreign policies:
http://www.therightscoop.com/beck-debates-oreilly-on-egypt/
But Al Qaeda wants global jihad you say? Well what in the hell is Beck proposing be done about that? Keep the troops over there? No, he already said bring them back. And sorry Beck, but Paul is not a "complete isolationist" - he supported the authorization to use military force in Afghanistan from the beginning. Additionally, In 2001, Paul introduced H.R. 3076, the September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001. The bill
http://www.nolanchart.com/article8613_Bin_Laden_is_Dead_but_his_Ghost_still_ Haunts_America.html
"Authorizes
and requests the President to issue letters of marque and reprisal to
commission privately armed and equipped persons and entities to seize
outside of the United States the person and property of Osama bin Laden,
of any al Qaeda co-conspirator and any conspirator with Osama bin Laden
and al Qaeda who are responsible for the terrorist attacks against the
United States on September 11, 2001... [It authorizes] the capture, dead
or alive, of Osama bin Laden or any other al Qaeda conspirator
responsible for the act of air piracy upon the United States on
September 11, 2001."

So if anyone attempts "global jihad" by taking on the one nation that could stop it, do you really think Paul would roll over and die or would he retaliate? If you think a President Paul would give in to the terrorists, you're either kidding yourself or you're a damn fool.So tell me Beck: what are the ACTIONS you think the other candidates would take that you think Ron Paul wouldn't take?

COpatriot
09-13-2011, 06:57 PM
He's a single issue guy now. Anyone who doesn't worship Israel like he does is considered bad in his eyes. Even worse, there are idiots who eat up the shit he spews. He is not a good guy.

fisharmor
09-13-2011, 07:02 PM
Guys, he just needs a little more time. He's turning around.
Sure he is, and when he gets turned all the way around, we'll get a good view straight down the bore of the shotgun he has ready for us.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times, and I guess you just need a little more time.

AuH20
09-13-2011, 07:04 PM
Guys, he just needs a little more time. He's turning around.

It's one issue and it's only relegated to Beck's Mormon fetish for Israel. The other side makes the same mountain out of a mole hill in regard to Paul's foreign policy views. Actually, Rush wants him out of the party for his lone foreign policy views, despite having the most conservative credentials of the current field. Go figure.

Czolgosz
09-13-2011, 07:17 PM
Some of the "reasons" I've seen laid out for, "why I won't vote for Ron Paul" almost always seem like single issue myopia. Are these types of people nuts or completely influenced by bias or a paycheck?

Humanae Libertas
09-13-2011, 07:29 PM
Never trusted him.

Fixed. :)

AJ187
09-13-2011, 07:34 PM
Fixed. :)

Me too. Anyone on this forum that can not and could not see through that flimsy facade of the man should question their ability to discern.

qh4dotcom
09-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Ha Ha Ha....Rick Santorum accuses Ron Paul of "parroting Osama Bin Laden"...and Glenn Beck follows suit and starts quoting Osama Bin Laden as well...Ha Ha Ha.

qh4dotcom
09-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Never trusted him since the Medina incident.

I stopped watching his show after that and regretted that I ever watched it.

James Madison
09-13-2011, 08:02 PM
Beck is a Project Mockingbird operative.

Cutlerzzz
09-13-2011, 08:16 PM
Beck is a Project Mockingbird operative.

Are you actually James Madison?

Czolgosz
09-13-2011, 08:26 PM
Are you actually James Madison?

lol

AGRP
09-13-2011, 08:49 PM
I stopped watching his show after that and regretted that I ever watched it.

I wouldn't regret it.

Beck single handedly proved (at least for me) that the Tea Party co-opters weren't so innocent.

matt0611
09-13-2011, 08:58 PM
I don't believe that Glenn really disagrees with Ron. It seems like Glenn wants to be Ron Paul. Ron is everything Glenn claims he is looking for in a candidate (Integrity, "say what you mean, mean what you say," etc...) but he still refuses to support him. I think he wants credit for the movement that Ron started because its all about feeding his ego. He tries to discredit him without actually disagreeing with him, and then taking all of his ideas as his own. I have watched every interview Ron has had with Glenn and noticed that Glenn has always treated Ron differently than other guests. It's really kind of weird.

I really think you're on to something. I really think it is all about ego. It really is so damn illogical for Beck not to support Ron Paul. He needs something for him to disagree with him on as an excuse not to support him. I guess so he can still seem like a leader of sorts so he can sell books and shit.

Cleaner44
09-13-2011, 09:01 PM
Someone should ask Santorum how he, as someone that is running for President, can ignore what Osama bin Laden said were his reasons for attacking us. It is irresponsible for any candidate for President to completely ignore what are enemies tell us are their motivations.

James Madison
09-13-2011, 09:09 PM
Are you actually James Madison?

I wish...lol

Eric21ND
09-13-2011, 09:22 PM
Beck is a Liechtenstein firster.

thetruthhurtsthefed
09-13-2011, 09:27 PM
Ah Glenny Beck. 2 fists is better than one eh? Wait til they tell you about the leg....thigh high! GB is such a Pigeon.

moderate libertarian
09-13-2011, 09:30 PM
what do you expect from the Israel firsters?? I didn't watch beck or listen to him but it doesn't surprise me a bit since he is completely sold out to support zionism.

Beck is a tool and probably immoral human being who supported bloodbath of innocent for personal gain.
His cheerleading of Bush's blunderous Iraq policies was shameless.

FrankRep
09-13-2011, 09:32 PM
After the creepy neocon pretended otherwise, in his final FOX days, for ratings reasons. Here, if you can stand him, is the Beckster.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/politicaltheatre/2011/09/glenn-beck-admits-his-hate-for-ron-paul/
Glenn Beck is a Conservative. Ron Paul doesn't know how to speak the Conservative language sometimes (Rand Paul does).

Ron Paul says the right thing, but in the wrong way.

Ron Paul Conservatives have warned Ron Paul about this, but Ron Paul fails to take the advice.

pcosmar
09-13-2011, 09:49 PM
Glenn Beck is a Conservative.
No he is not.
Glen Beck is a propagandist.
Glen Beck is a National Socialist (Zionist) shill.

Glen Beck plays a Conservative on TV.

moderate libertarian
09-13-2011, 09:51 PM
Glenn Beck is a Conservative. Ron Paul doesn't know how to speak the Conservative language sometimes

Are you for real? Do you know the difference between a conservative and neocon?

Glenn Beck Deems Ron Paul “Domestic Threat”

http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/ron_paul_glen_beck_considers_domestic_threat.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcjwh1oZdE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL21A97B9893A6B69D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkcjwh1oZdE&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL21A97B9893A6B69D

Glenn Beck Says Bush Is Like Lincoln
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wMmV0IyiM

Beck is an idiot many of the times.

Cutlerzzz
09-13-2011, 09:52 PM
Glenn Beck Says Bush Is Like Lincoln I agree.

moderate libertarian
09-13-2011, 09:55 PM
I agree.

Ok, but what about this part ? lol


Beck is an idiot many of the times.

cucucachu0000
09-13-2011, 09:55 PM
glenn beck got me into politics and into informing myself so i cant find my self to hate him but he has demonstrated hes full of crap lately. i started moving away from him the last few weeks of his show when he would not shutup about isreal idc about that country just like i dont care about france. let them work there own crap out everybody would be better off.

Cutlerzzz
09-13-2011, 09:59 PM
Ok, but what about this part ? lolThe part I quoted.

FrankRep
09-13-2011, 10:03 PM
Are you for real? Do you know the difference between a conservative and neocon?
I know the proper definition of a Neocon. Your answers show you don't.

Click here and learn:

Defining Terms: What is a Neoconservative (Neocon)?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?257106-Defining-Terms-What-is-a-Neoconservative-%28Neocon%29

AuH20
09-13-2011, 10:05 PM
I know the proper definition of a Neocon. Your answers show you don't.

Click here and learn:

Defining Terms: What is a Neoconservative (Neocon)?
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?257106-Defining-Terms-What-is-a-Neoconservative-%28Neocon%29

correct. No neocon would ever call George W. Bush a progressive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGVrjFlFraE

moderate libertarian
09-13-2011, 10:26 PM
correct. No neocon would ever call George W. Bush a progressive.



No conservative would ever say that Bush's bailout was not big enough.

"But these are anything but normal times. I thought about it an awful lot this weekend, and while it takes everything in me to say this, I think the bailout is the right thing do. The 'REAL STORY' is the $700 billion that you’re hearing about now is not only, I believe, necessary, it is also not nearly enough, and all of the weasels in Washington know it."
(Glenn Beck, 9/22/08 )

Beck is too incoherent and unprincipled to be anything other than a tool IMO. He is not an authentic neocon either, an actor and a tool.

FrankRep
09-13-2011, 10:43 PM
No conservative would ever say that Bush's bailout was not big enough.

"But these are anything but normal times. I thought about it an awful lot this weekend, and while it takes everything in me to say this, I think the bailout is the right thing do. The 'REAL STORY' is the $700 billion that you’re hearing about now is not only, I believe, necessary, it is also not nearly enough, and all of the weasels in Washington know it."
(Glenn Beck, 9/22/08 )

Beck is too incoherent and unprincipled to be anything other than a tool IMO. He is not an authentic neocon either, an actor and a tool.



Full context: (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/15495/)

Sep 22, 2008




GLENN: I told you, well, forever I’m against government bailouts, but that ship has sailed so long ago. Now we have a bailout that is $700 billion. Do not believe $700 billion. Don’t believe it. I sent an e mail out, what, 11:45 last night, Stu?


STU: Yes.

GLENN: What did I say would happen with the bailout?

STU: You said it would be more like $2 trillion.

GLENN: Sovereign funds no, that’s not it. The $700 billion bailout, the latest story here is that it is probably going to be $1.3 trillion. Do not believe that. It’s not $1.3 trillion. It is over $2 trillion that this bailout is going to cost. And here’s the great thing, this according to Bloomberg just a few minutes ago. Bush administration widened the scope of its $700 billion plan to avert financial meltdown by including assets other than mortgage related securities.

You must hear this. Please have some meat I’ll give you dessert here in a second, but you must hear this because it only makes you you’ll only question me saying the bailout is a good thing even more. You’ll say… what! Officials made changes two days after unveiling plans for an unprecedented intervention in financial markets. The change will potentially allow purchases of car loans, credit card debt and other devalued assets that may force an increase in the size of the package. No! It’s not going to be, not going to be over $700 billion. It’s going to be over $2 trillion.

Now, why is this happening and why am I willing to say AIG was the only one that I would have considered bailing out last week, but I still was not for the bail I have not been for any bailouts. Why would I now be for bailouts? Let me give you the story on what happened this weekend in Nancy Pelosi’s office. Ben Bernanke and Henry Paulson, the secretary of treasury, did everything they could last week to try to bail everything out. I believe they made things worse but I know a lot of financial people don’t but I believe you just, we went, we started going down the bailout route. What they were trying to do is build another firewall. Well, they didn’t put the fire out. You can build firewall after firewall after firewall. You’ve got to put the fire out. And nothing they did fixed it, and every time they would fix it, they will say, well, this one’s going to fix it, and it didn’t. The fire just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.



SOURCE:
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/15495/

COpatriot
09-13-2011, 10:49 PM
The funniest thing is that Beck isn't even the worst part of his own radio show. It's those two mongoloid co-hosts of his.

Athan
09-13-2011, 11:55 PM
Never trusted him since the Medina incident.

Agreed. We Texans know this douche as a traitor.

Mani
09-14-2011, 02:38 AM
OK, I can't watch videos at work, but I'm reading the below text:

“He has some things right. Have we — has our foreign policy played a role in the discontent, yes. When you say you stand for freedom, and then you get into bed with brutal dictators like Mubarak you’re sending a mixed message so you stand for nothing.”

” You can’t export democracy. They don’t want it. They don’t understand it. That’s fine. They attack us. We pound them into glass, and then we go home. We don’t fix their stuff. They don’t have stuff to fix. They don’t mind it. They’re fine with it. Who’re we to impose our values on them? Great. You live any way you want. You screw with us, we pound you back into the stone age where you already are. We drive back into your cave. We kill all the people who tried to kill us, and then we go home,” Glenn said.

“If you want to not mess with us we’ll be your friends. You want to be a friendly state to us. We’ll be friendly state to you. You want to be a jerk we pound you into sand. I’m not so I can spread democracy so I can protect my people, and my economy. I’ll trade with everybody. I’ll help anybody. But you screw with us. You screw with our economy. You screw with our people, I pound you into glass. Period,” Glenn said.

“Call that an neocon because I follow it I then come home. I don’t build a school. I don’t build jack. The private sector decides to build. Period. Neocon. Sorry Ron Paul you exposed yourself on your policies.”



HUH? Where is the disagreement? Where is the exposure? He's making RP points...Maybe I'm missing something by not watching the video but he's explaining RP viewpoints. So how did he expose RP?

scrosnoe
09-14-2011, 03:02 AM
Beck who?

Rael
09-14-2011, 03:24 AM
The funniest thing is that Beck isn't even the worst part of his own radio show. It's those two mongoloid co-hosts of his.

What the hell is with that? I don't make it a point to listen to GB but I occasionally happen to hear it and it basically just sounds like he is jabbering with his friends. It's annoying.

emazur
09-14-2011, 03:46 AM
What the hell is with that? I don't make it a point to listen to GB but I occasionally happen to hear it and it basically just sounds like he is jabbering with his friends. It's annoying.

Back until Fall of 2009 when Beck's TV show was actually interesting and I watched with enthusiasm, I tried listening to the radio show in hopes of getting more good stuff. It was horrible radio then, it is horrible radio now for exactly the reason you stated. It's complete crap - just Beck shootin' the bull with no substantive information whatsoever. For 3 hours. Why people would tune in intentionally to listen to it, beyond the purpose of hearing background chatter noise, is beyond me.

A Son of Liberty
09-14-2011, 04:10 AM
If anyone needs Glenn, tell them he's in the basement doing Rick Perry's laundry.

jmdrake
09-14-2011, 04:14 AM
Full context: (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/15495/)



WRONG! That's NOT the context. That's Glenn Beck's spin. Don't carry that douche's water. Here is the context.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/22/gb.01.html

Beck was just another one of those "Oh this is horrible, but we have no other choice and it needs to be bigger" losers.