Caught on camera, American citizen on the ground fighting in Libya

[moderate libertarian]

An American soldier journeys to the 'good fight' in Libya

By Moni Basu, CNN

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/WORLD/africa/09/08/libya.us.trainer/story.jerry.erwin.jpg

Before he earned a high school diploma, he enlisted in the U.S. Army and trained in air assault operations with the storied 101st Airborne Division.

Later, in the Army Reserve, he specialized in counterintelligence and strategic analysis.

But now things seem even more uncertain.

Erwin knows that because he was a captain in army intelligence, the military might be irked about the fact that he traveled to Libya without its knowledge.

On his way to Libya, he said the FBI questioned him at New York's JFK airport.

CNN attempted to contact both the U.S. Army and the FBI for comment. While the FBI declined comment, the military did not return calls in time for publication.


http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/09/08/libya.us.trainer/index.html

This begs the question why he felt so much compassion for liberty of Libyan arabs (reportedy linked to Al Qaeda) but not for arab groups fighting against occupations in other countries?

[Mod- title edit he is not active duty military,,, he went on his own accord]

[CaptainAmerica]

TREASON.......he aided alqaeda affiliated terrorists.

[Petar]

TREASON.......he aided alqaeda affiliated terrorists.

Gimme a break, unless the guy is actually planning some terrorist attack against America, then you really have no point...

[CaptainAmerica]

Gimme a break, unless the guy is actually planning some terrorist attack against America, then you really have no point... HAH. You really need to keep up on the news about the "rebels".

[Petar]

HAH. You really need to keep up on the news about the "rebels".

I'm sure they are a mixed-bag, but people who claim that they are all Al-Quaida and/or CIA puppets are just full of it.

[bluesc]

Is this supposed to be the story of a hero?

"Erwin knew then he had to go; to play a part, however small, in helping them win. He had prepared for war all his life, after all. And never fought in one.

Libya would be his big chance to defend the American ideals in which he believed. Freedom. Democracy. Equality."

No. It was his big chance to finally play Rambo. He successfully helped replace a dictator with Al Qaeda. He came home just in time to miss the people he was fighting alongside round up the blacks. It's the story of someone jumping into something that he had no business being involved in, without realizing what the consequences may be. On a larger scale, it's the story of the United States of the last 50 years.

[AZKing]

I'm sure they are a mixed-bag, but people who claim that they are all Al-Quaida and/or CIA puppets are just full of it.

What? It was one of the rebel leaders that said it... not us.

[libertybrewcity]

that's just dumb

[Imperial]

I thought we were always telling people to go to warzones themselves if they believed in the people fighting. It is what so many did for us in the American Revolutiion and it is what he was trying to do for Libya. I think that is commendable.

[lucky_bg]

I'm sure they are a mixed-bag, but people who claim that they are all Al-Quaida and/or CIA puppets are just full of it.

And You are just full of shit! What exactly do you know about Libya and Gaddafi? Gaddafi may be dictator, but he is kind of socialist, nanny state dictator.
Did you know that in Libya if you are buying a car, state is paying half of the price? And did you know that every Libyan citizen when turns 18 gets keys for his own apartment from the state? Or that every Libyan citizen can study anywhere in the world. And I mean ANYWHERE in the world. Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, Sorbona... And Libyan state, or crazy dictator Gaddafy if you want, pays for it all. And when I say all, I mean tuitions, books, apartment, car leasing, airline tickets to visit home couple of times a year, and here in Europe they get 2-3 thousand euros (3-4 thousand dollars) a month as a pocket money. And did you know that in London almost nobody lives alone in his own apartment, as rents are insanely high. Almost all young people, and many not so young, are living in flatshares. But Libyan student gets his/her own apartment that costs couple of thousand pounds a month.
You probably don't know that Libya have 6,5 milion citizens, and only one milion of them is working. But, there is additional 2 milion of foreign workers that works for them. Libya had highest standard of living in Africa. Highest then Brazil, Ukraine, or Saudi Arabia. Yes, yes, Saudy Arabia, highest oil producer in the world.
When we talk about women, do you know that Libya is probably onlu Islamic country where women are completly and totally equal, and have all rights as men. There is no stoning for adultery in Libya, or for walking down the street without husband or brother, or for, God forbid, talking to any male that isn't husband or brother.
So, not just housing and education is free in Libya, but also healthcare and electricity, and gasoline is cheaper then water and costs 14 cents for a barel. For each family member govermant pays a 1000$ yearly subsidy. Unemployed are payed 730$ monthly. Newly weds are donated 64,000$. For every newborn 7,000$ is paid. To open a bussines one gets 20,000$ one-time aid. Etc, etc..
All loans are interest free, by law. And guess what. There is no national debt. Libya is debt free. On the contrary, Gaddafi left 118 bilion dolar in hard cash and gold in Libyan national bank. Not to mention Libyan state funds own 12,5% Fiat shares. Yes, same Italian Fiat that bought Chrysler. And many other valuable investments around the world.
And yes, Gaddafi was a dictator. And he was hard on Islamic fundamentalists. But, there is no difference between him and us in that part.
Only fool can believe that NATO is bombing Libya to help Libyan people. They are bombing Libya because Libya have biggest oil reserves in Africa.
And this CNN article is cheap Hollywood style propaganda and it makes me sick!

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

And You are just full of shit! What exactly do you know about Libya and Gaddafi? Gaddafi may be dictator, but he is kind of socialist, nanny state dictator.
Did you know that in Libya if you are buying a car, state is paying half of the price? And did you know that every Libyan citizen when turns 18 gets keys for his one apartment from the state? Or that every Libyan citizen can study anywhere in the world. And I mean ANYWHERE in the world. Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, Sorbona... And Libyan state, or crazy dictator Gaddafy if you want, pays for it all. And when I say all, I mean tuitions, books, apartment, car leasing, airline tickets to visit home couple of times a year, and here in Europe they get 2-3 thousand euros (3-4 thousand dollars) a month as a pocket money. And did you know that in London almost nobody lives alone in his own apartment, as rents are insanely high. Almost all young people, and many not so young, are living in flatshares. But Libyan student gets his/her own apartment that costs couple of thousand pounds a month.
You probably don't know that Libya have 6,5 milion citizens, and only one milion of them is working. But, there is additional 2 milion of foreign workers that works for them. Libya had highest standard of living in Africa. Highest then Brazil, Ukraine, or Saudi Arabia. Yes, yes, Saudy Arabia, highest oil producer in the world.
When we talk about women, do you know that Libya is probably onlu Islamic country where women are completly and totally equal, and have all rights as men. There is no stoning for adultery in Libya, or for walking down the street without husband or brother, or for, God forbid, talking to any male that isn't husband or brother.
So, not just housing and education is free in Libya, but also healthcare and electricity, and gasoline is cheaper then water and costs 14 cents for a barel. For each family memeber govermant pays a 1000$ yearly subsidy. Unemployed are payed 730$ monthly. Newly weds are donated 64,000$. For every newborn 7,000$ is paid. To open a bussines one gets 20,000$ one-time aid. Etc, etc..
All loans are interest free, by law. And guess what. There is no national debt. Libya is debt free. On the contrary, Gaddafi left 118 bilion dolar in hard cash and gold in Libyan national bank. Not to mention Libyan state funds own 12,5% Fiat shares. Yes, same Italian Fiat that bought Chrysler. And many other valuable investments around the world.
And yes, Gaddafi was a dictator. And he was hard on Islamic fundamentalists. But, there is no difference between him and us in that part.
Only fool can believe that NATO is bombing Libya to help Libyan people. They are bombing Libya because Libya have biggest oil reserves in Africa.
And this CNN article is cheap Hollywood style propaganda and it makes me sick!

Have a feeling that, all of what you typed, should be in the past tense.

[asurfaholic]

How does anyone here in the "land of the free" think they know whats best for Libya, or any other middle east country?

Maybe they need powerful dictators. Maybe due to the regional tension and religion, as well as other forces we do not have to experience here in the "land of the free" they need someone who can stand up to the opposition and get things done for their country.

How dare us disrupt the relatively good lives of many to pursue our greed. 90% of Libyan tribes supported Gaddaffi. Isn't that a whole lot better than the 45% of people who support Osucka, and the 50% for Bushy, here in the "land of the free?"

[Diurdi]

I don't see anything wrong with this. He's a private person, not the US military, and paid out of his own pocket.

I think what he did was stupid and naive but nothing wrong with it.

[pcosmar]

I don't see anything wrong with this. He's a private person, not the US military, and paid out of his own pocket.

I think what he did was stupid and naive but nothing wrong with it.

Perhaps. But the US has prosecuted Mercenaries in the past. You Can't just support whom you chose. You can't even support charities if the US doesn't approve of them.

You Can be hired out of the Military for "unofficial" actions though.
I was approached in the 70s for "work" in Angola and Rhodesia. I was told that I could be "separated" from active duty and well paid.
I declined.

[moderate libertarian]

I thought we were always telling people to go to warzones themselves if they believed in the people fighting. It is what so many did for us in the American Revolutiion and it is what he was trying to do for Libya. I think that is commendable.

If other US soldiers on their own slipped into Egypt, Palestine to help them oppressed Egyptians and Palestinians fight for their liberation from their oppressors, would also call those US soldiers actions "commendable"?



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[Mod- title edit he is not active duty military,,, he went on his own accord]

Ok, I was going by what CNN headlined.


An American soldier journeys to the 'good fight' in Libya
By Moni Basu, CNN

[ronpaulitician]

The US government doesn't like competition. I bet this guy will be in trouble.

[moderate libertarian]

The US government doesn't like competition. I bet this guy will be in trouble.

I won't be so sure that CNN is printing the whole truth or if this was pre-emptive leak.



Libya, Erwin thought, was his destiny. He insists he wasn't sanctioned officially to be there -- he had paid his own way, was there on his own time.

But it was worth it. It was a teenage dream coming true. He felt as much personally fulfilled as he was to see the rebels take control of town after town.

Erwin knows that because he was a captain in army intelligence, the military might be irked about the fact that he traveled to Libya without its knowledge.

On his way to Libya, he said the FBI questioned him at New York's JFK airport.





This is rather interesrting, he has never faught on behalf of US? He did not feel the need to go to Iraq or Afghanistan?

"I wanted to do this once in my lifetime, to be on the good side of a war," Erwin said. "I felt it was a place where I belonged."

[Imperial]

If other US soldiers on their own slipped into Egypt, Palestine to help them oppressed Egyptians and Palestinians fight for their liberation from their oppressors, would also call those US soldiers actions "commendable"?



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[Mod- title edit he is not active duty military,,, he went on his own accord]

Ok, I was going by what CNN headlined.

As the article notes he is not active-duty. When you join the military you suspend certain privileges, and I think it is fair to say this would be one of them. However, you are free to use the skills you gain after leaving the military. Obviously the morality of the action though depends on the country as well- Palestine's oft-violent resistance to Israel is much more complicated and less morally clear than that of the Libyan rebellion, and Egypt never really had a militarized rebellion but more of a slow-moving tidal wave of protest.

[pcosmar]

As the article notes he is not active-duty. When you join the military you suspend certain privileges, and I think it is fair to say this would be one of them.

I am not sure of this guys case. But I was active duty and approached by a government operative. If I had taken the offer I would have been separated from "active" duty.
It still would have been working for the US GOV. As a Mercenary.

but shit,,Most folks don't even know we were involved in Angola or Rhodesia.

[Petar]

And You are just full of shit! What exactly do you know about Libya and Gaddafi? Gaddafi may be dictator, but he is kind of socialist, nanny state dictator.
Did you know that in Libya if you are buying a car, state is paying half of the price? And did you know that every Libyan citizen when turns 18 gets keys for his own apartment from the state? Or that every Libyan citizen can study anywhere in the world. And I mean ANYWHERE in the world. Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, Sorbona... And Libyan state, or crazy dictator Gaddafy if you want, pays for it all. And when I say all, I mean tuitions, books, apartment, car leasing, airline tickets to visit home couple of times a year, and here in Europe they get 2-3 thousand euros (3-4 thousand dollars) a month as a pocket money. And did you know that in London almost nobody lives alone in his own apartment, as rents are insanely high. Almost all young people, and many not so young, are living in flatshares. But Libyan student gets his/her own apartment that costs couple of thousand pounds a month.
You probably don't know that Libya have 6,5 milion citizens, and only one milion of them is working. But, there is additional 2 milion of foreign workers that works for them. Libya had highest standard of living in Africa. Highest then Brazil, Ukraine, or Saudi Arabia. Yes, yes, Saudy Arabia, highest oil producer in the world.
When we talk about women, do you know that Libya is probably onlu Islamic country where women are completly and totally equal, and have all rights as men. There is no stoning for adultery in Libya, or for walking down the street without husband or brother, or for, God forbid, talking to any male that isn't husband or brother.
So, not just housing and education is free in Libya, but also healthcare and electricity, and gasoline is cheaper then water and costs 14 cents for a barel. For each family member govermant pays a 1000$ yearly subsidy. Unemployed are payed 730$ monthly. Newly weds are donated 64,000$. For every newborn 7,000$ is paid. To open a bussines one gets 20,000$ one-time aid. Etc, etc..
All loans are interest free, by law. And guess what. There is no national debt. Libya is debt free. On the contrary, Gaddafi left 118 bilion dolar in hard cash and gold in Libyan national bank. Not to mention Libyan state funds own 12,5% Fiat shares. Yes, same Italian Fiat that bought Chrysler. And many other valuable investments around the world.
And yes, Gaddafi was a dictator. And he was hard on Islamic fundamentalists. But, there is no difference between him and us in that part.
Only fool can believe that NATO is bombing Libya to help Libyan people. They are bombing Libya because Libya have biggest oil reserves in Africa.
And this CNN article is cheap Hollywood style propaganda and it makes me sick!

Those are very interesting factoids.

Now please explain why the majority of Libyans, or at least a very large number of them, are so hell-bent on getting rid of Gaddafi.

Thanks.

[lucky_bg]

Anyone need just to take a look at this video about 1st july protest at Green Square in Tripoly, and everything seems quite clear. Keep in mind, in Tripoly lives 2 milion people - one third of Libyan population. This "rebellion" couldn't "liberate" Tripoly with just Nato airstrikes.
There were boots on ground. Foreign boots. Mainly from Katar, but others also. CNN captured some footage of British soldiers at battlefield near Bengazi, almost at the begining of "rebelion". But, nobody mentioned it since then, and CNN reporters have been very carefull what and whom they were recording since then.
I couldn't find that footage on You Tube now, but there is another CNN video about British SAS comandos which were air-landed in Libya, and then captured by mistake by the rebels.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n38o2J07W3E&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSHCSHdtg1A

[lucky_bg]

Those are very interesting factoids.

Now please explain why the majority of Libyans, or at least a very large number of them, are so hell-bent on getting rid of Gaddafi.

Thanks.

I just did. Take a look at the video I posted in the post above. You can see how "hell-bent" to get rid of Gaddafi they were at 1st July in Tripoly with your own eyes.

[heavenlyboy34]

TREASON.......he aided alqaeda affiliated terrorists.
Terrorists don't wear any national uniform. How can you call it "treason"?

[Petar]

I just did. Take a look at the video I posted in the post above. You can see how "hell-bent" to get rid of Gaddafi they were at 1st July in Tripoly with your own eyes.

I assume you realize that there is currently a revolution taking place in Libya...

*edit*

Oh, that video...

I guess that I will have to watch it and think about it first...

*edit again*

Unless this video proves that there is no popular revolt in Libya, then I don't think that it answers the question...

[lucky_bg]

I assume you realize that there is currently a revolution taking place in Libya...

*edit*

Oh, that video...

I guess that I will have to watch it and think about it first...

*edit again*

Unless this video proves that there is no popular revolt in Libya, then I don't think that it answers the question...

I have another one for you. Look how "crazy dictator" is driving through streets of Tripoli during air raid. He doesn't seem frightened of his own people at all. Anybody with a pistol had been able to kill him. But they are cheering to him. And, also take a look at the streets of Tripoli. At the buildings, boulevards, trees,cars on the streets, look how clean and neat is everything even in the middle of the war and air raid - does that looks like some impoverished, backward country that needs saviours?!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEidZcZJ6AI&NR=1

[Petar]

I have another one for you. Look how "crazy dictator" is driving through streets of Tripoli during air raid. He doesn't seem frightened of his own people at all. Anybody with a pistol had been able to kill him. But they are cheering to him. And, also take a look at the streets of Tripoli. At the buildings, boulevards, trees,cars on the streets, look how clean and neat is everything even in the middle of the war and air raid - does that looks like some impoverished, backward country that needs saviours?!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEidZcZJ6AI&NR=1

My impression is that Tripoli is a Gaddafi stronghold containing his most loyal tribesmen.

I don't know if the majority of the tribes in Libya are against Gaddafi, but I think it is clear that at least a large portion of them are.

I guess that countries will always be unstable as long as individual rights are trampled.

[lucky_bg]

My impression is that Tripoli is a Gaddafi stronghold containing his most loyal tribesmen.

I don't know if the majority of the tribes in Libya are against Gaddafi, but I think it is clear that at least a large portion of them are.

I guess that countries will always be unstable as long as individual rights are trampled.

Now we're getting somewhere. So, Tripoli is Gaddafi stronghold, with one third of Libyan population. And also there is Sirt, Gaddafi hometown and home of his own Gaddafa tribe, that is still loyal to Gaddafi, even if Gaddafi is out of power and under NATO air attacks. But then, there is also Bani Valid, home to Warfala tribe, bigest in Libya with 1 milon members, that is also still loyal to Gaddafi and still resists combined rebels and NATO attacks. And towns in far south of Libya Sabha and Al Jawf are also still loyal to Gaddafi.

So, to summarize, who is exactly against Gaddafi except people from Benghazi, and NATO? And it is question if all people from Bengazi are agains Gaddafi. And population of Benghazi is around half of milion people. Less then 10% of Libyan population of 6,5 milion.

I don't have harsh feelings toward you personaly - it's just that I cannot stand when someone, out of pure ignorance, is cheering for destruction of quite prosperous and advanced country for African standards, and killing of many innocent people in the process and all for greed of high and mighty.

[Petar]

Now we're getting somewhere. So, Tripoli is Gaddafi stronghold, with one third of Libyan population. And also there is Sirt, Gaddafi hometown and home of his own Gaddafa tribe, that is still loyal to Gaddafi, even if Gaddafi is out of power and under NATO air attacks. But then, there is also Bani Valid, home to Warfala tribe, bigest in Libya with 1 milon members, that is also still loyal to Gaddafi and still resists combined rebels and NATO attacks. And towns in far south of Libya Sabha and Al Jawf are also still loyal to Gaddafi.

So, to summarize, who is exactly against Gaddafi except people from Benghazi, and NATO? And it is question if all people from Bengazi are agains Gaddafi. And population of Benghazi is around half of milion people. Less then 10% of Libyan population of 6,5 milion.

I don't have harsh feelings toward you personaly - it's just that I cannot stand when someone, out of pure ignorance, is cheering for destruction of quite prosperous and advanced country for African standards, and killing of many innocent people in the process and all for greed of high and mighty.

I am against foreign involvement in this conflict, but even if only 10% of the population is rebelling against Gaddafi, then I take that as strong evidence that they at least have some very good reasons.

I can see that Gaddafis socialism has created a level of prosperity, but at what cost?

No dissent, no freedom of speech?

This must also be a part of the problem, just as much as NATO bombs, the CIA, and Al-Qaida certainly are.

[lucky_bg]

Former Congressman: ‘I Saw NATO Troops Behead Libyans’


Former US Congressman Walter Fauntroy claims he saw NATO troops behead Libyans as part of the siege to overthrow Gaddafi’s regime, a conflict Fauntroy attributes to the geopolitical agenda to re-colonize Africa.
Fauntroy was a Congressman representing District of Columbia for a period of 20 years between 1971 and 1991.
He embarked on a peace mission to Libya but soon went into hiding, with many fearing he had been killed. However, the former Congressman has re-emerged to claim he witnessed NATO soldiers commit war crimes.
According to a report by Afro.com, Fauntroy “Watched French and Danish troops storm small villages late at night beheading, maiming and killing rebels and loyalists to show them who was in control.”
“The rebels told Fauntroy they had been told by the European forces to stay inside. According to Fauntroy, the European forces would tell the rebels, “‘Look at what you did.’ In other words, the French and Danish were ordering the bombings and killings, and giving credit to the rebels.”
Shocked by what he witnessed, Fauntroy fled back to the United States, vowing, “The truth about all this will come out later.”
The Congressman added that NATO’s involvement in the civil war was primarily about preventing, “all efforts by African leaders to stop the recolonization of Africa.”
CNN confirmed that Fauntroy was amongst the journalists holed up at the Hotel Rixos before he was released on August 25. Fauntroy also claims that he personally met with Colonel Gaddafi during his time in the country.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/former-congressman-i-saw-nato-troops-behead-libyans.html

[Diurdi]

Perhaps. But the US has prosecuted Mercenaries in the past. You Can't just support whom you chose. You can't even support charities if the US doesn't approve of them.

You Can be hired out of the Military for "unofficial" actions though.
I was approached in the 70s for "work" in Angola and Rhodesia. I was told that I could be "separated" from active duty and well paid.
I declined. Sure, the US may not approve of it - but I meant I don't personally see anything morally wrong with it.

[jmdrake]

Gimme a break, unless the guy is actually planning some terrorist attack against America, then you really have no point...

You need to re-read the constitution.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

And the evidence that these "rebels" are enemies of the United States?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html
Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.
.....
In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya".

Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader".


Now, one can make the argument that the particular rebels this American is fighting with aren't linked to Al Qaeda....and if you believe that I have ocean front property in Tennessee I'd like to sell you.

[pcosmar]

Sure, the US may not approve of it - but I meant I don't personally see anything morally wrong with it.

I do not either. People should be able to follow their conscience where ever it takes them. Even to the point of hiring out to evil if they choose.

I was just making the point that that the US has and does hire mercenaries out of it's own military. A simple change of paperwork and they are no longer listed as enlisted.

However if you as an American choose to help Afghan Freedom Fighters it is a whole different story.

[jmdrake]

I do not either. People should be able to follow their conscience where ever it takes them. Even to the point of hiring out to evil if they choose.

I was just making the point that that the US has and does hire mercenaries out of it's own military. A simple change of paperwork and they are no longer listed as enlisted.

However if you as an American choose to help Afghan Freedom Fighters it is a whole different story.

+rep! There's really no difference between fighting alongside Al Qaeda in Libya and fighting alongside Al Qaeda in Afghanistan or Iraq. But the U.S. government has decided that Al Qaeda is "good" and "bad" at the same time. This is actually worse than 1984 with Emanuel Goldstein.

[moderate libertarian]

Gimme a break, unless the guy is actually planning some terrorist attack against America, then you really have no point...

If he is supported by Obama regime ans his actions lead to blowback against America, he still would have no responsibility?

In other news, Al Qaeda linked militants and jihadists are celeberating killing of popular Libyan leader.

[moderate libertarian]

TREASON.......he aided alqaeda affiliated terrorists.

Too soon to say till all the facts come out. Conflicting motives and groups involved in this fight paint a complicated picture.



Report: Israeli company recruits mercenaries to support Gadhafi
TEL AVIV, Israel (Ma'an) -- An Israeli company is recruiting mercenaries to support Moammar Gadhafi's efforts to suppress an uprising against his regime..

The article states that the weapons were provided by an Israeli company that’s made up of former generals in the Israeli army.

http://mondoweiss.net/2011/03/report-israel-company-recruiting-gadhafi-mercenaries.html

http://newamericamedia.org/2011/03/eye-on-arab-media-is-israel-gadhafis-ultimate-safe-haven.php

[Miss Annie]

I too, think that the American was probably well paid for his service.
I think the media created the revolt in Lybia. I think that getting Qaddafi out was more of a political coup rather than an uprising. I would tend to wonder if it were actually Libyan citizens fighting and not radicals imported in to look like radicals.
If you watch any footage from media other than American, they state that it was a very sad time for the Libyan citizens because they wanted Qaddafi.
The motive behind the political coup was that Qaddafi did not want a one world government. He wanted a United states of Africa and was trying to unite Africa.
This is very informative :
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?324624-The-REAL-Gaddafi-and-what-he-wanted-to-do

[moderate libertarian]

Media certainly helped create the "revolt". That said, I do not believe that many journalists at NYT/CNN/Fox etc are used by CIA to plant stories.