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AuH20
09-06-2011, 02:21 PM
the comments are beyond vile.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/06/blast-from-the-past-ron-paul-quits-the-republican-party/


Now now. What could Nazis and RP have in common? I say that jokingly of course. Ron and Rand both strike me as Jew haters.

Southernblogger on September 6, 2011 at 4:10 PM

Lucille
09-06-2011, 02:26 PM
I quit going to that neoclown echo chamber about a month ago. I highly recommend it.

AuH20
09-06-2011, 03:58 PM
I quit going to that neoclown echo chamber about a month ago. I highly recommend it.

It's not really neocon. It's more party loyalist than anything else.

TexMac
09-06-2011, 04:14 PM
Michelle Malkin started it. Can't get much more neocon than that.

AuH20
09-06-2011, 04:17 PM
Michelle Malkin started it. Can't get much more neocon than that.

She's not a neocon though. Neocons are Bill Kristol, David Frum, Krauthammer, Perry, McCain, etc. I think we have alot of reformed leftists who are confused with the meaning and ideology behind the word.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?17434-Define-neocon&highlight=neocon+meaning

TexMac
09-06-2011, 04:28 PM
Google: neocon michelle malkin About 679,000 results (0.41 seconds)

AuH20
09-06-2011, 04:35 PM
Google: neocon michelle malkin About 679,000 results (0.41 seconds)

I think we have a major problem of an echo chamber in this forum. Certain individuals make erroneous declarations and then it becomes adopted by the rank & file. Holding a particular foreign policy view does not make one a neocon. And by the same token, Ron Paul's position does not make him a leftist. Neoconservatism is about creating a favorable social order through the fanatical quest to create GDP at any price. If that includes utilizing the government, then so be it. Malkin, Levin and others obviously do not subscribe to this prime raison d'etre of the neoconservative elite. However, that still doesn't stop both our side and their side to partake in this ridiculous and counterproductive mud slinging.

sailingaway
09-06-2011, 04:44 PM
This was already posted, along with Ron's campaign's response, which was superb. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/179703-perry-hits-back-at-paul-on-reagan-support


Perry's campaign cited Paul's letter of resignation from the GOP for proof that the libertarian-leaning Republican was no friend of Reagan's.

"There is no credibility left for the Republican Party as a force to reduce the size of government. That is the message of the Reagan years," Paul wrote in 1987. "Thanks to the President and Republican Party, we have lost the chance to reduce the deficit and the spending in a non-crisis fashion. Even worse, big government has been legitimized in a way the Democrats never could have accomplished."

Paul's campaign responded by repeating the charges in the ad. "Dr. Paul acted to push for balanced budgets and greater adherence to the principles of the Reagan revolution, those things that drew him to support Ronald Reagan when the establishment tried to dismiss him. Gov. Perry, on the other hand, was leading the Texas campaign of liberal Democrat Al Gore, who supported higher taxes and bigger government. The contrast here is plain: Dr. Paul wanted a stronger conservative revolution, Gov. Perry worked to end it," said Paul Campaign Spokesman Gary Howard. "Dr. Paul was going after Perry for being a liberal in 1988. With the release of this letter, is Perry going after Dr. Paul for being too conservative for the GOP establishment in 1988?"

bluesc
09-06-2011, 04:56 PM
This was already posted, along with Ron's campaign's response, which was superb. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/179703-perry-hits-back-at-paul-on-reagan-support

I didn't see that response before! Awesome.

V3n
09-06-2011, 05:05 PM
Excellent response!!

Everyone knows he ran as a Libertarian in '88 - no big deal - I think the letter actually helps Ron Paul. ..the response REALLY helps!

blocks
09-06-2011, 06:10 PM
LOL @ the Perry campaign citing Paul's 1987 resignation letter (which is a great read, never knew about it until now; thanks Perry!).

Lucille
09-06-2011, 06:20 PM
It's not really neocon. It's more party loyalist than anything else.

I know what a neocon is. It's more than just war, war and more war. In addition to the Warfare State, they love the Welfare and Police states also. Its denizens might not be so supportive of the welfare state, but that bigot AP is. He is a neoclown extraordinaire.

ChrisDixon
09-06-2011, 06:45 PM
The Paul Campaign response was beautiful. Couldn't have said it better.

V3n
09-06-2011, 07:31 PM
Perry's camp came up with that pretty quickly.. I wonder how long they've been holding it..

shows they think Ron Paul is a threat.

Maximus
09-06-2011, 07:33 PM
Perry's camp came up with that pretty quickly.. I wonder how long they've been holding it..

shows they think Ron Paul is a threat.

The best part is that it blew up in their face.

runningdiz
09-06-2011, 07:34 PM
Perry's campaign took the bait. When Ron's campaign approved the ad they knew what other campaigns would try to do to discredit them. Trying to attack Ron with the letter will only make him look better in the end. It all plays to his favor.

Chainspell
09-06-2011, 07:35 PM
Excellent respons

Everyone knows he ran as a Libertarian in '88 - no big deal - I think the letter actually helps Ron Paul. ..the response REALLY helps!

Haha I think they knew it was coming and they set a trap on that one.. Thats pretty brilliant!

bluesc
09-06-2011, 07:40 PM
If it was a trap, this is some excellent work by the campaign. The response to the counter-attack was perfect.

wgadget
09-06-2011, 07:44 PM
I think we have a major problem of an echo chamber in this forum. Certain individuals make erroneous declarations and then it becomes adopted by the rank & file. Holding a particular foreign policy view does not make one a neocon. And by the same token, Ron Paul's position does not make him a leftist. Neoconservatism is about creating a favorable social order through the fanatical quest to create GDP at any price. If that includes utilizing the government, then so be it. Malkin, Levin and others obviously do not subscribe to this prime raison d'etre of the neoconservative elite. However, that still doesn't stop both our side and their side to partake in this ridiculous and counterproductive mud slinging.


However, RICK PERRY fits the NEOCON label to a T.

D.A.S.
09-06-2011, 07:55 PM
LMAO! The LIBERAL Rick Perry...

Brilliant response by the Paul campaign, and Perry just walked into the trap, from the looks of it.

My my, I'm liking how Ron Paul is starting to set up the game of chess. More moves like this are very much needed, so please don't get too friendly with other candidates :-)

libertybrewcity
09-06-2011, 08:35 PM
break the link

Morerockin
09-06-2011, 08:51 PM
Google: neocon michelle malkin About 679,000 results (0.41 seconds)

Lmao!

parocks
09-06-2011, 09:07 PM
She's not a neocon though. Neocons are Bill Kristol, David Frum, Krauthammer, Perry, McCain, etc. I think we have alot of reformed leftists who are confused with the meaning and ideology behind the word.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?17434-Define-neocon&highlight=neocon+meaning

Right. Half the people here use neocon as a synomym for someone with the orthodox republican foreign policy.


It's much smarter to talk about the backgrounds of the specific neocons. Irving Kristol was on the Hubert Humphrey task force in 1968. He decided to support Nixon over McGovern in 1972. The next year, his ideas were called "neoconservative" by the Socialist Michael Harrington. No one asked conservatives if they welcomed Irving Kristols ideas. The socialist and the democrat agreed to call the democrat a conservative. We want the democrat ideas out of the Republican Party.

Join The Paul Side
09-06-2011, 09:08 PM
Michelle Malkin started it. Can't get much more neocon than that.

She's one hot neocon though. ;)

parocks
09-06-2011, 09:09 PM
LMAO! The LIBERAL Rick Perry...

Brilliant response by the Paul campaign, and Perry just walked into the trap, from the looks of it.

My my, I'm liking how Ron Paul is starting to set up the game of chess. More moves like this are very much needed, so please don't get too friendly with other candidates :-)


I've been saying attack Rick Perry for at least a month before he announced. I don't think we really have to worry about attacking anyone else.

He's trying to take the "tea party" spot. Romney isn't.

parocks
09-06-2011, 09:12 PM
However, RICK PERRY fits the NEOCON label to a T.

Globalist. Rick Perry is a Globalist.

Globalist is worse than neocon, and Rick Perry has a clear Globalist resume.

If you're looking for one word for Perry, that's accurate, it's Globalist.

parocks
09-06-2011, 09:25 PM
Perry's camp came up with that pretty quickly.. I wonder how long they've been holding it..

shows they think Ron Paul is a threat.

If I'm Rick Perry, I'm going to anticipate that Ron Paul is going to use the 2 Rons pix, he really is in the best position to use the 2 Rons pix against Perry.

The 2 Rons pix are almost always met with the "disassociate" quote. And there's really nothing you can do about that, except to say that these are good pix, I did help Reagan win, and I'm fully in the right to use those pix for whatever reason. The "disassociate" comment merely clarifies, it doesn't negate what Ron did to help Reagan in 1976, when most Congressmen were with Ford, the RINO, and Ron was with Ron, the Conservative. In 1980, Karl Rove was with the RINO Bush, and Ron Paul was with the Conservative Reagan. That's the real history, and that's what those pictures show.

skyorbit
09-06-2011, 09:48 PM
Yeah. I don't think accusing somebody of being "too conservative" is going to play well with the Republican Primary base.