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Agorism
08-25-2011, 05:26 PM
Iowa:

23% Rick Perry
20% Michele Bachmann
16% Mitt Romney
9% Ron Paul
8% Herman Cain
7% Rick Santorum
3% Newt Gingrich
2% Jon Huntsman
12% Undecided/Not Sure

http://www.wparesearch.com/uncategorized/perry-leads-gop-field-in-iowa/

ProfNo
08-25-2011, 05:40 PM
Not good. Two polls released at the same time have Paul at 9%.

What is causing this?

Edit: looks like it is Perry that is not doing us any favors. How anyone can support that guy is beyond me.

Agorism
08-25-2011, 05:56 PM
I think it's who they poll and their sampling.

Brett85
08-25-2011, 06:18 PM
Just a few days ago PPP came out with a poll that had Ron at 16% in Iowa. How can there be so much difference between two polls? Why are these polls so erratic when it comes to Ron's numbers?

JamesButabi
08-25-2011, 06:22 PM
Just a few days ago PPP came out with a poll that had Ron at 16% in Iowa. How can there be so much difference between two polls? Why are these polls so erratic when it comes to Ron's numbers?

Its all dependent on the demographic.

mosquitobite
08-25-2011, 06:27 PM
Iowa is a caucus state - and the old people know how to do it, and have been doing it for years. We don't poll as well with the old people...

Brett85
08-25-2011, 06:29 PM
Its all dependent on the demographic.

It's just strange that Ron's numbers vary so widely among all these polls, and the numbers for all the other candidates are almost exactly the same in every poll. I guess it's just that Ron's support is concentrated in a select few demographics, and these polls vary pretty widely on which demographics they poll the most.

Brett85
08-25-2011, 06:30 PM
Iowa is a caucus state - and the old people know how to do it, and have been doing it for years. We don't poll as well with the old people...

We actually did better in the Iowa caucus in 2008 than we did in most of the primaries. The caucuses are generally better for Ron since the turnout is lower.

Bruno
08-25-2011, 06:35 PM
Iowa is a caucus state - and the old people know how to do it, and have been doing it for years. We don't poll as well with the old people...

Maybe we should fund sending the Grassroots Press to likely elderly voters and to nursing homes.

Agorism
08-25-2011, 06:36 PM
The newsletters hit pieces came out right before NH so that may have caused some underperforming there compared to Iowa, but from what I recall they were about the same.

Brett85
08-25-2011, 06:45 PM
The newsletters hit pieces came out right before NH so that may have caused some underperforming there compared to Iowa, but from what I recall they were about the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2008_Republican_Party_presidential_ primaries

Ron had 10% in Iowa and 8% in New Hampshire. New Hampshire was supposed to be the "libertarian" state that Ron was supposed to do well in.

JohnGalt23g
08-25-2011, 06:48 PM
Guys, relax.

Polls have margins of error. What this poll, and most of the others have shown me, is that Ron is clearly running in the top 4, and that he is trending the right direction, as opposed to Bachmann and Romney. There's a lot of football left to play, and these polls tell me we're in the thick of the game.

TexMac
08-25-2011, 07:05 PM
In a poll of likely Republican caucus voters, Romney led with 35 percent, well ahead of Rudy Giuliani with 12 percent, Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee with 11 percent each, Tom Tancredo with 9 percent, and John McCain with 7 percent.

August 30 2007. We all know how that turned out.

trey4sports
08-25-2011, 07:14 PM
Rasmussen and PPP showed Paul @ 16% in Iowa. I tend to believe them over, uhh, who is this pollster again?

Agorism
08-25-2011, 07:20 PM
I've seen "WPA" polls before but I never knew what it stood for.