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Agorism
08-25-2011, 04:37 PM
Marc Faber: Don’t Store Your Gold In The United States

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-don’t-store-your-gold-united-states


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Marc Faber: Don’t Store Your Gold In The United States

As usual, the CNBC hosts were completely dumbfounded.

Phoning in from Sao Paulo, Brazil, investment guru Marc Faber was a guest on CNBC last week, once again telling the unvarnished truth about the state of the world economy and bankrupt western nations.

This time, Faber had a very clear message: that everyone should own *physical* gold… and what’s more, they should store it outside of the United States:



“I prefer if investors hold physical gold in a safe deposit box, ideally outside the US, in various locations… Switzerland, Singapore, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada… I think it’s important in today’s very uncertain world to diversify, not only the various asset classes… but also the custody of your assets should be in different jurisdictions.”

His hosts couldn’t believe it. -NOT- store in the United States, the bastion of freedom and security??!?! What lunacy!

CNBC: “Uh, so do you thus not trust US banks or US custodians? Do you think they might fail or abscond with the gold?”

Guffaws and incredulous snickers emerge from the hosts.

Faber: “I don’t trust anyone.”

Uncomfortable silence.

CNBC: “Hmmm. Interesting.”

Completely devoid of anything intelligent to say on the topic of sovereign diversification, they quickly changed the subject to talk about equities… but Faber soon came back to his original point.

Among other things, he mentioned that banks in Asia are FAR more stable and sound than they are in the west for not having invested so heavily in dead weight assets like Greek bonds or US mortgage-backed securities.

I couldn’t agree more.

This is a point I’ve been pounding on from day 1: internationalization, what I frequently call planting multiple flags, is absolutely critical to reducing your risk.

You won’t ever hear about it from the talking heads on state-sponsored media like CNBC. They refuse to look at the real world where America is no longer the center of the financial universe or the safest place to put money.
Truthfully, though, bankrupt nations like the United States pose the greatest risk of all to our prosperity and livelihood, regardless of whether we’re just starting out or have already achieved it.

This is because politicians will stop at nothing to maintain the status quo; the more they try to ‘fix’ things, the worse the situation becomes. They think they can borrow their way out of debt and spend their way out of recession. When these tactics don’t work, they just borrow and spend more.

In recent remarks during an official visit to Japan, Vice President Joe Biden said that China became the world’s second largest economy only because of US troop presence in Asia.

This line of reasoning only makes sense to a politician: China’s growth has nothing to do with its huge population, massive accumulation of savings, burgeoning technology, or culture of productivity… and everything to do with US military installations in South Korea, Japan, and Okinawa.

Such logic truly tests the patience of rational, thinking people, yet it exemplifies the kind of out-of-touch, mindless bureaucrat who is running the country.

Marc Faber has it absolutely right: entrusting the preponderance of your assets to these moronic sociopaths is a foolhardy endeavor. Own physical gold as a hedge against their idiotic fiscal policies, and store it overseas to make sure they can’t get their thieving hands on it.

Here in Austria, there’s a great secure storage facility in Vienna called Das Safe. You can rent a safety deposit box from them completely anonymously, and the box contents are insured for up to $50,000.

This is financial privacy at its finest… and if you want to take Marc Faber’s advice, you should definitely consider Das Safe. As an aside, Austria is also a great place to buy gold; you can purchase the gold ‘Philharmonic’ coin at almost every bank in the country at premiums as low as 3%.

If you’re serious about doing this, you should check out last month’s edition of Sovereign Man: Confidential. I covered a lot of detailed information about moving and storing gold overseas, including specialized contacts and obscure regulations that you need to know about.

Acala
08-25-2011, 04:44 PM
How can you have completely anonymous rental AND $50,000 insurance? Don't they have to know who the insured is?

Agorism
08-25-2011, 04:50 PM
How can you have completely anonymous rental AND $50,000 insurance? Don't they have to know who the insured is?

You just register a deposit number and possibly password with it. You would have no proof other than that so if someone cashed out with your numbers, you have no legalrecourse backing you to get it back.

I know lots of Swiss accounts have false names, and they allow that sort of thing that way government agencies can't figure out who it belongs to.

YumYum
08-25-2011, 04:56 PM
Why does he trust his gold in other countries? Are we going to kill each other here in America for each others' gold?

low preference guy
08-25-2011, 05:00 PM
Why does he trust his gold in other countries? Are we going to kill each other here in America for each others' gold?

The U.S. government has a precedent of confiscating gold in FDR.

Agorism
08-25-2011, 05:05 PM
Why does he trust his gold in other countries? Are we going to kill each other here in America for each others' gold?

He's not advocating any specific country, but just diversification.

youngbuck
08-25-2011, 06:09 PM
When the US goes back to the gold standard, your gold probably won't be safe here.

Vessol
08-25-2011, 06:11 PM
The U.S. government has a precedent of confiscating gold in FDR.

This was my thoughts as well.

TCE
08-25-2011, 06:56 PM
Not sure I'm a fan of that advice. If the U.S. collapses, why wouldn't those nations/banks confiscate the gold in your safety deposit box? They know you can't do anything about it. I understand about diversification, but everyone's first priority should not be stashing gold in other countries, it should be planning for the worst case scenario here. If a real SHTF scenario happens, how is gold spread across Asia going to help?

emazur
08-25-2011, 09:42 PM
Not sure I'm a fan of that advice. If the U.S. collapses, why wouldn't those nations/banks confiscate the gold in your safety deposit box? They know you can't do anything about it. I understand about diversification, but everyone's first priority should not be stashing gold in other countries, it should be planning for the worst case scenario here. If a real SHTF scenario happens, how is gold spread across Asia going to help?

I heard Schiff talking today about the perth mint in Australia - he said the gold is stored at a government owned mint but is insured by a private company (I think he said from London)

Sean
08-25-2011, 09:50 PM
I think you should maybe hold onto most of your physical gold yourself especially if you own your own property. Other countries also can confiscate your gold and you might have a problem bringing it back in if you need it. Even Swiss banks are giving the US government information on depositors.

pcosmar
08-25-2011, 10:51 PM
Just how do you access your gold when the US economy goes tits up?
How do you get it from a foreign location while under martial law?

Icymudpuppy
08-26-2011, 10:38 AM
I'm keeping my gold in a safe place. You won't find it.

I hear that the Collins stores his at the end of the rainbow.

:collins:

specialK
08-26-2011, 11:17 AM
Why does he trust his gold in other countries? Are we going to kill each other here in America for each others' gold?

Which countries, other than the USA, have a history of confiscating gold?

sparebulb
08-26-2011, 11:34 AM
It seems to me that if an economy is intentionally strangled, time will flush most of the gold and silver from the starving populace back into the hands of the ruling elite. It would make sense to me that there would be very little pm ownership in 1930's Ukraine and similar events.

specsaregood
08-26-2011, 11:36 AM
Of course when the US defaults on its debts to those foreign countries, I'd imagine those same countries will attempt to seize the assets of US citizens' holdings in their country.

AZKing
08-26-2011, 12:57 PM
The U.S. government has a precedent of confiscating gold in FDR.

I lost all my gold and silver in a bizarre boating accident :o