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AlexanderY
08-25-2011, 02:27 PM
Jesus Christ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII

zerosdontcount
08-25-2011, 02:32 PM
hahah WTF

sluggo
08-25-2011, 02:34 PM
Doesn't matter if this is satire or not, the mindset is real and it's as dangerous to freedom as the monstrous government that enables it.

Alright, I'm off to buy some more silver.

Czolgosz
08-25-2011, 02:35 PM
lol funnae video.


Of course we're doomed. I'd like to think we can make enough corrections, via the system, over the next 50 years to regain our freedom...but I doubt it.

ctiger2
08-25-2011, 03:43 PM
Art imitates life

ninepointfive
08-25-2011, 03:50 PM
nice

LibForestPaul
08-25-2011, 05:33 PM
racist garbage. I know people on EBT, one white, one cuban. Need to stop looking down and looking up instead; millions vs billions.

220 a month * 12 = @2400 a year?

NewRightLibertarian
08-25-2011, 05:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eBIHO1Hl9U

AlexanderY
08-25-2011, 08:39 PM
racist garbage. I know people on EBT, one white, one cuban. Need to stop looking down and looking up instead; millions vs billions.

220 a month * 12 = @2400 a year?

You missed the point.

Yeah, I too noticed that everyone in the video was black, but the video is pretty indicative of the entitlement culture in general.

I'm also aware that maintaining the overseas empire is a hell of a lot more costly than welfare. It wasn't meant to be a jab at blacks.

Teaser Rate
08-25-2011, 09:05 PM
racist garbage. I know people on EBT, one white, one cuban. Need to stop looking down and looking up instead; millions vs billions.

220 a month * 12 = @2400 a year?

Agreed, the video is absolutely disgusting propaganda.

Working Poor
08-25-2011, 09:14 PM
not everyone in the vid was black i thought it was cute myself

VoluntaryAmerican
08-25-2011, 10:21 PM
CHANGE is slow. Luckily we have Ron Paul.

AuH20
08-25-2011, 10:44 PM
This is hilarious, but it's closer to the truth than fiction.

AuH20
08-25-2011, 10:47 PM
You missed the point.

Yeah, I too noticed that everyone in the video was black, but the video is pretty indicative of the entitlement culture in general.

I'm also aware that maintaining the overseas empire is a hell of a lot more costly than welfare. It wasn't meant to be a jab at blacks.

Actually, domestic welfare/entitlement programs/GSEs dwarf the overseas empire maintenance. You could cancel out the DoD tomorrow and you still would have a sizable deficit.

purplechoe
08-25-2011, 10:47 PM
Obama should make OPP his campaign song... OPP = Other Peoples Property


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGuGSDsDrM

"Are you down with OPP? Yeah you know me!"

AuH20
08-25-2011, 10:54 PM
Hold your head high, they're not called food stamps anymore. S.N.A.P. those fingers to the sound of Uncle Sugar Sam's cash clip!

http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/

heavenlyboy34
08-25-2011, 11:00 PM
lol-zy and tragic at the same time.

heavenlyboy34
08-25-2011, 11:04 PM
Actually, domestic welfare/entitlement programs/GSEs dwarf the overseas empire maintenance. You could cancel out the DoD tomorrow and you still would have a sizable deficit.http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/usgs_line.php?title=Welfare%20Spending%20Chart&year=1996_2016&sname=US&units=b&bar=1&stack=1&size=m&col=c&spending0=282.03_281.24_273.88_280.04_293.51_316.2 4_386.25_418.26_408.25_408.51_413.00_422.71_498.18 _637.93_727.28_702.70_624.30_598.56_596.15_605.96_ 626.81&legend=&source=a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_e_g_g_g_g_g_g_g

Budget Breakdown for 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#Budget_Breakd own_for_2012)

Defense-related expenditurehttp://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/sort_none.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#)
2012 Budget request & Mandatory spending[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-Budget_FY2011-17)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-18)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/sort_none.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#)
Calculation[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-Higgs-19)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-20)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/sort_none.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#)


DOD spending
$707.5 billion
Base budget + "Overseas Contingency Operations"


FBI counter-terrorism
$2.7 billion
At least one-third FBI budget.


International Affairs
$5.6–$63.0 billion
At minimum, foreign arms sales. At most, entire State budget


Energy Department, defense-related
$21.8 billion



Veterans Affairs
$70.0 billion



Homeland Security
$46.9 billion



NASA, satellites
$3.5–$8.7 billion
Between 20% and 50% of NASA's total budget


Veterans pensions
$54.6 billion



Other defense-related mandatory spending
$8.2 billion



Interest on debt incurred in past wars
$109.1–$431.5 billion
Between 23% and 91% of total interest


Total Spending
$1.030–$1.415 trillion




This is the best data I can find right now. It seems that you are incorrect.

AuH20
08-25-2011, 11:08 PM
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/usgs_line.php?title=Welfare%20Spending%20Chart&year=1996_2016&sname=US&units=b&bar=1&stack=1&size=m&col=c&spending0=282.03_281.24_273.88_280.04_293.51_316.2 4_386.25_418.26_408.25_408.51_413.00_422.71_498.18 _637.93_727.28_702.70_624.30_598.56_596.15_605.96_ 626.81&legend=&source=a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_a_e_g_g_g_g_g_g_g

Budget Breakdown for 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#Budget_Breakd own_for_2012)

Defense-related expenditurehttp://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/sort_none.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#)
2012 Budget request & Mandatory spending[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-Budget_FY2011-17)[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-18)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/sort_none.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#)
Calculation[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-Higgs-19)[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#cite_note-20)http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.17/common/images/sort_none.gif (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States#)


DOD spending
$707.5 billion
Base budget + "Overseas Contingency Operations"


FBI counter-terrorism
$2.7 billion
At least one-third FBI budget.


International Affairs
$5.6–$63.0 billion
At minimum, foreign arms sales. At most, entire State budget


Energy Department, defense-related
$21.8 billion



Veterans Affairs
$70.0 billion



Homeland Security
$46.9 billion



NASA, satellites
$3.5–$8.7 billion
Between 20% and 50% of NASA's total budget


Veterans pensions
$54.6 billion



Other defense-related mandatory spending
$8.2 billion



Interest on debt incurred in past wars
$109.1–$431.5 billion
Between 23% and 91% of total interest


Total Spending
$1.030–$1.415 trillion




This is the best data I can find right now. It seems that you are incorrect.

Where are the huge mandatory outlays for S.S., medicaid, medicare, and the mortgage GSEs?

Medicaid and Medicare are a hair under a trillion just together:
http://reason.com/blog/2011/08/04/medicare-medicaid-to-cost-1-tr

Our current deficit is 1.7 trillion. So if I take that defense number at 1.2 trillion, that's still 500 billion unbalanced, which will probably have to shaved off the tight discretionary spending portion. This budget problem extends far beyond bullets and bombs.

limequat
08-26-2011, 06:26 AM
Don't forget to include state funding for foodstamps, welfare, section 8, unemployment, etc, etc.

reillym
08-26-2011, 12:51 PM
Actually, domestic welfare/entitlement programs/GSEs dwarf the overseas empire maintenance. You could cancel out the DoD tomorrow and you still would have a sizable deficit.

You are incorrect.

AuH20
08-26-2011, 01:02 PM
You are incorrect.

Just the DoD's expenditures alone adds up to 800 billion. Annual deficit is currently 1.7 trillion. That's a 900 billion dollar budget shortfall annually, not even factoring the growing off-budget monstrosity that's waiting for us.

ravedown
08-26-2011, 01:20 PM
this is totally deep insider culture on culture satire that from the outside, is some pretty offensive stuff. personally i think it misses the mark. i've showed it to some dem. friends to get their input and they basically conclude this video is made for the tea party (probably by the tea party) and validates the conservative view on the welfare class. typical.

Vessol
08-26-2011, 01:33 PM
God I see this shit every day.

Everyone at my work besides my manager and myself is on EBT and welfare. Yet they all live better than me. They buy new 50,000$ cars, get brand new 100$ pairs of shoes, go on expensive vacations, etc.

NewRightLibertarian
08-26-2011, 01:50 PM
God I see this shit every day.

Everyone at my work besides my manager and myself is on EBT and welfare. Yet they all live better than me. They buy new 50,000$ cars, get brand new 100$ pairs of shoes, go on expensive vacations, etc.

I guess those goodies your colleagues take are the perks of living in a murderous, repressive empire.

ItsTime
08-26-2011, 02:02 PM
It is not racist, black people made it. It is racist to think it is racist? A lot of black people hate the welfare system as much as me.

Mini-Me
08-26-2011, 02:15 PM
You are incorrect.

He might be stretching when he says that domestic programs "dwarf" the spending on empire, but the domestic spending is in fact larger. (Both have to go.) Copied/pasted from a post I wrote for another thread:

In 2010, the federal governments total receipts were $2162B, and interest payments on the debt in 2010 were about $414B. The outstanding debt is about $14340B. If we assume the same income levels, balancing the budget would require all spending except debt payments to drop to $1748B / year and stay there. This would keep the debt from growing any further, but even this is difficult: For 2010, "mandatory" spending (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, other "mandatory" programs, and interest payments) was $2173B alone, and discretionary spending was $1378B. That's a total of $3551B, and I'm not sure if that even counts everything. (For instance, it only counts interest on the debt at $164B, even though we actually paid $414 billion. It doesn't make sense that the other $250B is a payment on principal, because we had to borrow $250B extra just to pay that anyway.) In any case, 2010 spending on things OTHER than the debt was at least $3387B.

I probably should have included my sources, since I forget where I got all the numbers (though I know I got the $414 billion in interest from the government's own site on it)...but whatev. There might be some extra "hidden" defense spending that bumps the discretionary amount over $1378B (but also note that the discretionary figure includes non-entitlement domestic spending). For instance, interest payments on the debt (part of the mandatory figure) can be partially attributed to our foreign empire. However, aside from debt payments - of which only $164B are accounted in the $2173B figure - just about all the rest of the $2173B figure went to entitlements. That's larger than the 2010 discretionary spending, which includes the foreign empire. You don't always see all of the entitlement spending in graphs though, because the misleading ones sometimes omit Social Security, etc. (just like Social Security tax isn't always considered part of the income tax, or even a tax at all, lol).

BTW, HeavenlyBoy: Your data is helpful, but keep in mind that it's for 2012, so it must be compared side-by-side with 2012 entitlement spending. In addition, a fair comparison of current spending levels should probably put all of the interest payments off to the side, instead of trying to attribute it to past spending in the various categories (although you'd be correct saying that a lot of it is due to empire).

evilfunnystuff
08-26-2011, 02:42 PM
this is totally deep insider culture on culture satire that from the outside, is some pretty offensive stuff. personally i think it misses the mark. i've showed it to some dem. friends to get their input and they basically conclude this video is made for the tea party (probably by the tea party) and validates the conservative view on the welfare class. typical.

Show them the part of this video where she talks about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1TTYZAEBzU&feature=player_embedded#!

Rael
08-26-2011, 04:46 PM
Show them the part of this video where she talks about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1TTYZAEBzU&feature=player_embedded#!

Cliff notes version?

Jingles
08-26-2011, 05:13 PM
Wtf did I just watch...?

123tim
08-27-2011, 01:13 PM
Cliff notes version?

Watch from 2:08 to 3:38.

muh_roads
08-27-2011, 01:23 PM
racist garbage. I know people on EBT, one white, one cuban. Need to stop looking down and looking up instead; millions vs billions.

220 a month * 12 = @2400 a year?

220 per kid I believe.

devil21
08-27-2011, 04:24 PM
Agreed, the video is absolutely disgusting propaganda.

Those damn self-hating blacks making songs about their EBT cards. Yeah, such propaganda! The message of the video rings true, however, for an LA ghetto lifestyle that is portrayed.


God I see this shit every day.

Everyone at my work besides my manager and myself is on EBT and welfare. Yet they all live better than me. They buy new 50,000$ cars, get brand new 100$ pairs of shoes, go on expensive vacations, etc.

It's the new normal. Being a leech is not only now acceptable without any shame, some celebrate their leech status. I could save a lot of money if I didnt pay for my own food every month. A $250 average car payment becomes an attainable $500 payment and that's a big step up in rides.

LibXist
08-27-2011, 04:56 PM
This video sucks. Not funny at all.

Xenophage
08-27-2011, 05:40 PM
The more these programs are abused the more quickly our society will go the way of the Soviets. I have to admit to using these, but I've never taken out more than I've paid in. I don't make a lot of money where I work (less than $30k a year), but I get screwed out of about $150 a week in taxes. I was repulsed at first by the idea, until a couple of years ago when I got so pissed about my taxes I decided to get some of it back. It's a matter of survival. If these programs never existed, I'd be wealthier, and not just because I'd be paying less taxes - the economic situation would favor everybody more.

Bottom line: The socialist state always creates a society in which it becomes increasingly more difficult over time to prosper without participating in the socialism. However, the more people participate, the more dangerously close to collapse the socialist society becomes. If you care about your own life, the most logical course of action is to participate enough to avoid your own suffering, while simultaneously denouncing the system and working actively toward its destruction. That's what I do.

Is that hypocritical? That depends on the totality of your value system, but for me it would only be hypocritical (and morally repugnant) if I ever took out more than was stolen from me, and if I didn't engage myself in activities that would lead to the destruction of the system I abhor.

Carole
08-27-2011, 06:42 PM
Don't forget the Pentagon misplaced two trillion dollars a few days before 9-11. Guess they never found that. :)

knarf
08-27-2011, 07:07 PM
Funny as Hell!

roho76
08-27-2011, 07:16 PM
racist garbage. I know people on EBT, one white, one cuban. Need to stop looking down and looking up instead; millions vs billions.

220 a month * 12 = @2400 a year?

How is it racist? It's made by black people.

Johnny Appleseed
08-27-2011, 08:19 PM
Welfare should be the churches responsibility. You want to help the less fortunate...join a church...you are less fortunate...join a church. That is why churches don't pay taxes. If there are poor hungry homeless people in the world its the churches fault. I'm guessing taking money from the gubberment would be a bit easier than taking it from God.

devil21
08-27-2011, 09:11 PM
Welfare should be the churches responsibility. You want to help the less fortunate...join a church...you are less fortunate...join a church. That is why churches don't pay taxes. If there are poor hungry homeless people in the world its the churches fault. I'm guessing taking money from the gubberment would be a bit easier than taking it from God.

How about we tax churches and put that money into the welfare trust funds? Seems reasonable to me.