The Scramble for Access to Libya’s Oil Wealth Begins

[moostraks]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/business/global/the-scramble-for-access-to-libyas-oil-wealth-begins.html

But, but I thought it was all about helping the oppressed poor people attain liberty???

We REALLY need a puke emoticon here....

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/business/global/the-scramble-for-access-to-libyas-oil-wealth-begins.html

But, but I thought it was all about helping the oppressed poor people attain liberty???

We REALLY need a puke emoticon here....
Dictators never cease to amaze me with their ambitions of controlling oil even in plain view of the world.
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l595/kappellmeister2003/Captain_America103_20.jpg
when will that day come?

[pcosmar]

when will that day come?


In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

It will come.

[flightlesskiwi]

funny the NYT article mentions this quote
“We don’t have a problem with Western countries like Italians, French and U.K. companies,” Abdeljalil Mayouf, a spokesman for the Libyan rebel oil company Agoco, was quoted as saying by Reuters. “But we may have some political issues with Russia, China and Brazil.

Russia, China and Brazil did not back strong sanctions on the Qaddafi regime, and they generally supported a negotiated settlement to the fighting. All three countries have large oil companies that are seeking deals in Africa for oil reserves. ”

this article claims:
Unlike the irrepressible Vijay Prashad from Trinity College in Connecticut, few in the West may have noticed what Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao has had to say about all this. In a June 23 op-ed for the Financial Times titled "How China Plans to Reinforce the Global Recovery", Wen states that China is ready to exercise its political muscle in MENA (Middle East/Northern Africa) via the BRICS [Brazil, Russia, Indian, China, South Africa].

Beijing is not exactly happy that it has been elbowed out of its sizable energy investments in Libya - over 30,000 workers evacuated in a matter of only two days; it wants to make sure it remains a major player whatever happens in Libya. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MF30Ak02.html

perhaps something even more wicked (than the war in Libya) this way comes?

[CaptainAmerica]

funny the NYT article mentions this quote

this article claims: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MF30Ak02.html

perhaps something even more wicked (than the war in Libya) this way comes?
In 2008 people let this one fly under the radar. African Command center for the Pentagon was established in 2008.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/africa/05command.html

"There are barely 2,000 American combat troops and combat support personnel based in Africa, and the new top officer, Gen. William E. Ward of the Army, pledges that Africa Command has no designs on creating vast, permanent concentrations of forces on the continent. "

I think we can rightfully assume where this path leads.

[Kylie]

We REALLY need a puke emoticon here....

Ask and ye shall receive....


http://www.labusas.org/forum/images/smilies/puke.gif

[flightlesskiwi]

I think we can rightfully assume where this path leads.

yup. ever heard of Djibouti?

Africa is crawling with our military presence. well, maybe not as much as aghanistan is, but still:

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2010/05/airforce_africa_crash_051010w/

oh, sure, just taking dignitaries back and forth across africa. that's all the boys are deploying to do. yep.

[CaptainAmerica]

yup. ever heard of Djibouti?

Africa is crawling with our military presence. well, maybe not as much as aghanistan is, but still:

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2010/05/airforce_africa_crash_051010w/

oh, sure, just taking dignitaries back and forth across africa. that's all the boys are deploying to do. yep.
There is no doubt in my mind that there are military youth being trained just like they are in Iraq to use biometrics and round up civilian populations. It is all being done in secret and I think the government is hoping for the day that the generation which was too young to remember the U.S. pre-9/11 arrives into the ranks of the military.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

The worst part is corporations will pocket the profits, not pass the cheap price to the consumers.

[CaptainAmerica]

The worst part is corporations will pocket the profits, not pass the cheap price to the consumers.
That is not the worst part. The worst part is that these undeclared unjustified pre-emptive wars are killing lots of innocent people and all in the name of "liberation".

[flightlesskiwi]

That is not the worst part. The worst part is that these undeclared unjustified pre-emptive wars are killing lots of innocent people and all in the name of "liberation".

+rep

how soon until UN/NATO (aka US) "peacekeeping" boots on the ground?

[CaptainAmerica]

+rep

how soon until UN/NATO (aka US) "peacekeeping" boots on the ground?
Probably no need for it currently because the "rebels" are just a proxy to the us/nato.There have been lots of rumors and photographcs of caucasions meeting with the "rebels". Take into consideration that the "rebels" do mass beheadings of their enemies and use tactics of fear against Ghaddafi's government.It reminds me of how the Taliban was created.

[moostraks]

Ask and ye shall receive....


http://www.labusas.org/forum/images/smilies/puke.gif


thanks twas to lazy to google one up...:o

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

scramble is the word

the situation in Libya seems far from decided

[moostraks]

That is not the worst part. The worst part is that these undeclared unjustified pre-emptive wars are killing lots of innocent people and all in the name of "liberation".

my thoughts exactly...the world cannot afford nato's form of liberty!!!!

[AGRP]

AFRICOM: The Doom of Journalism: http://www.thenorthwestreport.com/africom-the-doom-of-journalism/

[flightlesskiwi]

scramble is the word

the situation in Libya seems far from decided

i think it's decided that gadhaffi is done. the puppet driver position is up for grabs.

[CaptainAmerica]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi:mad:

Gaddafi's regime faced growing opposition from Islamic extremists during the 1990s, particularly the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, which nearly assassinated him in 1996. Gaddafi began giving counter-terrorism intelligence to MI6 and the CIA in the 1990s, and issued the first arrest warrant for Osama bin Laden in 1998, after he was linked to the killing of German anti-terrorism agents in Libya.[145] He also offered to dismantle his active weapons of mass destruction program in 1999. In 2003, following the overthrow of Saddam Hussein by U.S. forces, Gaddafi again admitted to having an active weapons of mass destruction program, and was willing to dismantle it. In 2002, Saddam Hussein paid Gaddafi $3.5 billion to save him should he have an internal coup or war with America.[146] His announcement was well-publicized and during interviews, Gaddafi confessed that the Iraq War "may have influenced him", but he would rather "focus on the positive", and hoped that other nations would follow his example.[147] Gaddafi's commitment to the War against Terror attracted support from the United States and Britain. Prime minister Tony Blair publicly met with Gaddafi in 2004, commending him as a new ally in the War on Terror. During his visit, Blair lobbied for the Royal Dutch Shell oil company, which secured a deal in Libya worth $500 million.[148][149] The United States restored its diplomatic relations with Libya during the Bush administration, removing Libya from its list of nations supporting terrorism

Omar Gaddafi had a deal made with Royal Dutch Shell oil company.

Meanwhile in other news there are battle skirmishes over the control of local oil in Africa:

Nigeria is Africa’s largest oil producer and the fifth- biggest source of U.S. imports. Royal Dutch Shell Plc
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-22/shell-shuts-nigeria-adibawa-pipeline-after-oil-spill-caused-by-sabotage.html

[flightlesskiwi]

removing Libya from its list of nations supporting terrorism

yet NATO/UN/US is supporting Al-Qaeda in Libya, the very "group" we are boming in yemen and somalia (and pakistan and afghanistan and where ever else).

perhaps the US .gov should be put on it's own list. not perhaps. it should.

just one big mind f**k.

[CaptainAmerica]

yet NATO/UN/US is supporting Al-Qaeda in Libya, the very "group" we are boming in yemen and somalia (and pakistan and afghanistan and where ever else).

perhaps the US .gov should be put on it's own list. not perhaps. it should.

just one big mind f**k.
Amazing isn't it. Reminds me of how the U.S. has a "terror watch list"...hmm if only we all owned our own oil refineries we can make a bargain with the U.S. government and NATO to take us off the list in exchange for security..hah lol.It is one big head game and its really agitating that we get fed the amount of lies we do in the U.S. and that people actually believe it.

[acptulsa]

The worst part is corporations will pocket the profits, not pass the cheap price to the consumers.

Well, I agree with Captain America that the worst part is the loss of innocent life. And probably the second worst part is that the corporations which profit on this almost certainly don't pay anything substantial in the way of taxes.