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BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 06:57 AM
After watching Tucker last night it dawned on me what has been obvious all along - nobody in the media understands the Ron Paul movement at all - not even Tucker whom I would have thought would know better. In Tucker's mind the only people who could possibly support Ron Paul are the relative handful of people in this country like him who "really understand" what Ron Paul is about, leftists who hate the war and tin foil hat wearing, ex-hippie conspiracy theorists. Well yes, we are all of those things, but we are also doctors and lawyers and soldiers and scientists.

And we are civil libertarians and conservatives and liberals and democrats and republicans and libertarians and constitutionalists. We are shelf stockers at Walmart and high powered executives and self employed small business owners and internet gurus. We are policemen and firemen and ditch diggers and even people on public assistance. We are black and white and asian and hispanic and some mixture of all of these things. We are people who's ancestors came over on the Mayflower and who's ancestors met those people when they arrived. We are people who became Americans six months ago.

We are young, pot smoking college freshmen and guys who fought in Vietnam. We are people of virtually every possible stripe and persuasion who all have one single thing in common - we love this country and want to see the promise of what America was intended to be fulfilled, so that we can leave our children the American we grew up believing in - free and prosperous nation with justice and opportunity for all where any person who wants it and is willing to put in the effort has a reasonable chance of being whatever he or she wants to be and can make a better life for their children than they had. We want an America which is the land of liberty and where the idea of the pursuit of happiness means something.

A place where courage and gumption and effort and creativity counts for something - where the deck is not prestacked so that those on top can not lose no matter what they do and those on the bottom have little hope of winning no matter how hard they try. And where our leaders are people we can be proud of and who represent the best of what America is and not America at its basest and most venal. As for myself, I am proud to be associated with all of these types of Ron Paul supporters - even the whackiest among us. I happily welcome all the tin foil hat wearers and the hippies as well as the veterans and the old right conservatives and even the lefty liberals. When I start hearing stuff about needing to keep the movement "pure" then I know I'm talking to somebody who doesn't understand the movement at all.

uncloned21
11-03-2007, 07:06 AM
great post!

deedles
11-03-2007, 07:07 AM
I'm skeptical enough to believe that they DO get us exactly and want to shut it down. One approach is marginalizing RP supporters into kooks.

PatriotG
11-03-2007, 07:07 AM
"great post!"

Here Here !

PatriotG

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 07:08 AM
You can't cover everything, but I should have added - we are Christians and Atheists and Jews and Muslims and even Scientologists.

pcosmar
11-03-2007, 07:12 AM
Good post. A mirror of my thoughts.
Put a thumb tack in it, and stick it to the wall.

entropy
11-03-2007, 07:16 AM
Freedom brings us together


when the power of love becomes greater then the love of power, then we will know peace Jimi Hendrix


Freedom is the GREATEST gift we can give to future generations, for in freedom we will find love

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 07:19 AM
You know, I wish we could capture in some form of advertising what I am trying to get at in the OP - that we are an incredibly motley and diverse cross section of American and that the Ron Paul message transcends all the typical, easy labels and brings all of us together. Many of us, even just in here, are very different and from different backgrounds, but we all found our way here on our own and we were all drawn together by this message of liberty. Ron Paul is the candidate that the Democrats aspire to be - a genuine uniter who brings all kinds of people together. Only Ron Paul has the genuine big tent and speaks with the voice of the people.

Corydoras
11-03-2007, 07:20 AM
That was a beautiful post.

But there IS one large demographic group that is severely underrepresented among us but highly represented among other candidates' backers. The media wants to see us get more of them before giving us the airtime and respect we deserve.

Who is underrepresented among us? The inarticulate. The non-verbal. People who don't think in words, or at least not a lot of words.

I wish I were joking. But I am, unfortunately, dead serious.

We need more voters who can NOT exactly explain why they are voting for Ron Paul except that he "seems presidential" and "will do the best for this country."

Everybody knows people who are that inarticulate. Even people in the media know people like that. Most of them are not stupid... words are not just their thing.

Until people in the media start hearing from them that they're voting for "Ron" or "the doctor guy," they're not going to take us seriously. Inarticulate, non-verbal people have the right to vote, and there are a lot more of them than there are of us.

Yeah, THOSE are the non-crabgrass "real thing" that Luntz says we don't have.

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 07:27 AM
That was a beautiful post.

But there IS one large demographic group that is severely underrepresented among us but highly represented among other candidates' backers. The media wants to see us get more of them before giving us the airtime and respect we deserve.

Who is underrepresented among us? The inarticulate. The non-verbal. People who don't think in words, or at least not a lot of words.

I wish I were joking. But I am, unfortunately, dead serious.

We need more voters who can NOT exactly explain why they are voting for Ron Paul except that he "seems presidential" and "will do the best for this country."

Everybody knows people who are that inarticulate. Even people in the media know people like that. Most of them are not stupid... words are not just their thing.

Until people in the media start hearing from them that they're voting for "Ron" or "the doctor guy," they're not going to take us seriously. Inarticulate, non-verbal people have the right to vote, and there are a lot more of them than there are of us.

Yeah, THOSE are the non-crabgrass "real thing" that Luntz says we don't have.So, I'm guessing these are the "name recognition" people? The people who vote based on how familiar they are with the candidate's name? The "He's famous, he must be good!" crowd? How do you reach people who don't think? I guess you just put a face on TV over and over and repeat a single slogan over and over - sort of like Ghouliani's "9/11" mantra.

pcosmar
11-03-2007, 07:28 AM
Who is underrepresented among us? The inarticulate. The non-verbal. People who don't think in words, or at least not a lot of words.

I think we have some, possibly many.
We just don't hear from them yet, because they are " The inarticulate. The non-verbal." but we will see them at the polls.

deedles
11-03-2007, 07:29 AM
Freedom brings us together


when the power of love becomes greater then the love of power, then we will know peace Jimi Hendrix


Freedom is the GREATEST gift we can give to future generations, for in freedom we will find love

Do you quote from the movie Zeitgeist? Just watched it last night. A seminal event @ my house. google video = zeitgeist

shepburn
11-03-2007, 07:30 AM
we also do not have a lot of retirees on board yet. But that could change with more radio ads and TV appearances.

Excellent original post though! It made me feel proud of this movement (and this board)!!

ConstitutionGal
11-03-2007, 07:30 AM
Great and well thought-out post!!

Maybe we could do an ad type thing that shows a VAST variety of folks with a heading of 'WE support Ron Paul"....maybe a lawyer type looking guy, a punk rocker, a soccer mom, a truck driver, a doctor, a fireman, a policeman, a soldier, a college student, a senior citizen....you get the idea. Maybe just 10 - 15 obvious representations either photoshopped together or in an actual photopgraph. If any of us here are actually any of the above and could submit photos, maybe we could get this done.

scbissler
11-03-2007, 07:59 AM
You know, I wish we could capture in some form of advertising what I am trying to get at in the OP - that we are an incredibly motley and diverse cross section of American and that the Ron Paul message transcends all the typical, easy labels and brings all of us together. Many of us, even just in here, are very different and from different backgrounds, but we all found our way here on our own and we were all drawn together by this message of liberty. Ron Paul is the candidate that the Democrats aspire to be - a genuine uniter who brings all kinds of people together. Only Ron Paul has the genuine big tent and speaks with the voice of the people.


Loved the OP. And I've also been trying to come up with a slogan of some sort to convey what it is exactly about the Revolution that brings us all together. We are a diverse group. Hope for America is a good start but kind of vague. I think that what it boils down to is that if you are a typical American, and not a rabid, war-mongering neocon, a Ron Paul America, a locally governed Republic, offers EVERYONE the keys to bringing about their ideal poilitical situation and society. It is not a guarantee, but it makes the realization of their ideal more probable - whether that's a big government, semi-socialist Massachusetts or a religiously centered area in the Heartland, a libertarian Free State New Hampshire or a communitarian Vermont.

angelatc
11-03-2007, 08:01 AM
I'm skeptical enough to believe that they DO get us exactly and want to shut it down. One approach is marginalizing RP supporters into kooks.

Yep.

Man from La Mancha
11-03-2007, 08:02 AM
Paul people are also nazi, "white, black, hispanic, chinese supremists" and anybody else we disagree with. Just people who agree on freedom. Everybody better get use to it besides the more votes the better we can always go back to fighting each other when Ron is elected.

Ron and I are as crazy and nuts over freedom as these guys are.

http://www.storyboardtoys.com/store/Founding-Fathers-L.jpg

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hornet
11-03-2007, 08:10 AM
had a guy at work walk up to me yesterday and ask where i got the ron paul bumpersticker, he started talking about how rp was our only hope, and i got kinda goosebumpley cause i had never realized or suspected that he was paying attention politically, refferred him to this site. he said he comes here often but just doesn't post but enjoys reading everything. just got done ordering a bunch of stuff at the rp store. gonna take him some bumper stickers when they come in.

ChristopherJ
11-03-2007, 08:11 AM
Great and well thought-out post!!

Maybe we could do an ad type thing that shows a VAST variety of folks with a heading of 'WE support Ron Paul"....maybe a lawyer type looking guy, a punk rocker, a soccer mom, a truck driver, a doctor, a fireman, a policeman, a soldier, a college student, a senior citizen....you get the idea. Maybe just 10 - 15 obvious representations either photoshopped together or in an actual photopgraph. If any of us here are actually any of the above and could submit photos, maybe we could get this done.


A great post indeed. Something I have been thinking about lately and something I think the media has been ignoring is that there is really only one way we are going to lose. That one way is if we simply run out of time before enough people know RP. RP's growth is exponential and across a wide variety of people.

If you just take the money that RP has raised thus far it becomes very clear that we have a chance. He has doubled his cash on hand each quarter since he has entered the race. If the pattern continues RP will have more than $10 million in the bank by the end of this quarter. This will likely put him in second place behind only RG (assuming Romney doesn't write himself an even bigger check next quarter).

If RP can win New Hampshire the flood gates are open and there will be no stopping us. Once RP proves he can win we are going to need a much larger bandwagon as people will be jumping on in record numbers.

AdamT
11-03-2007, 08:11 AM
The MSM understand clearly that RP is a grave threat to their power structure, and to those that control them. They know damn well what his policies are and what his presidency would be like. They will resort to whatever tactics they dream up to discredit him and make him look "off" to the masses who still buy their BS.

They are criminal and have been covering up the hundreds of crimes of Bush and Clinton, which makes them accomplices.

Criminals do not play fair.

If our support is great enough though, we might just be able to maneuver around their schemes and win this damn thing. Now that would be a wakeup call to the MSM!

Andrew76
11-03-2007, 08:16 AM
After watching Tucker last night it dawned on me what has been obvious all along - nobody in the media understands the Ron Paul movement at all - not even Tucker whom I would have thought would know better. In Tucker's mind the only people who could possibly support Ron Paul are the relative handful of people in this country like him who "really understand" what Ron Paul is about, leftists who hate the war and tin foil hat wearing, ex-hippie conspiracy theorists. Well yes, we are all of those things, but we are also doctors and lawyers and soldiers and scientists.

And we are civil libertarians and conservatives and liberals and democrats and republicans and libertarians and constitutionalists. We are shelf stockers at Walmart and high powered executives and self employed small business owners and internet gurus. We are policemen and firemen and ditch diggers and even people on public assistance. We are black and white and asian and hispanic and some mixture of all of these things. We are people who's ancestors came over on the Mayflower and who's ancestors met those people when they arrived. We are people who became Americans six months ago.

We are young, pot smoking college freshmen and guys who fought in Vietnam. We are people of virtually every possible stripe and persuasion who all have one single thing in common - we love this country and want to see the promise of what America was intended to be fulfilled, so that we can leave our children the American we grew up believing in - free and prosperous nation with justice and opportunity for all where any person who wants it and is willing to put in the effort has a reasonable chance of being whatever he or she wants to be and can make a better life for their children than they had. We want an America which is the land of liberty and where the idea of the pursuit of happiness means something.

A place where courage and gumption and effort and creativity counts for something - where the deck is not prestacked so that those on top can not lose no matter what they do and those on the bottom have little hope of winning no matter how hard they try. And where our leaders are people we can be proud of and who represent the best of what America is and not America at its basest and most venal. As for myself, I am proud to be associated with all of these types of Ron Paul supporters - even the whackiest among us. I happily welcome all the tin foil hat wearers and the hippies as well as the veterans and the old right conservatives and even the lefty liberals. When I start hearing stuff about needing to keep the movement "pure" then I know I'm talking to somebody who doesn't understand the movement at all.


Great post!! I was pretty bent out of shape last night over the Tucker/Stein uh.. "news segment." This puts it in a different light. You are absolutely correct though, we are an incredibly diverse group of people, proof positive that the freedom message brings us together. Here here!

lloydian
11-03-2007, 08:22 AM
Wonderful post - Very well stated!!

DrNoZone
11-03-2007, 08:23 AM
That was a GREAT post! You should spice it up, perfect it and send it in as an OpEd piece to your local large paper conglomerate. I bet it'd get published.

jcbraithwaite7
11-03-2007, 08:40 AM
So I have been watching the news for the past few years and want to barf everytime they feel that Paris Hilton or Anna Nicole Smith is "breaking news"

I think they are miffed at our lack of interest in that fluff. Kind of like when you are playing with a cat. Some cats can spend hours chasing a feather on a string or a milk cap... then one day.... it just doesn't do it anymore. I had a cat that loved the laser pointer... man I drove that poor thing crazy chasing after it. Then one day the light bulb went on that it is just a light and he was never going to catch it. That was it- the mystery was gone and as much as I tried I couldn't get him to fall for it anymore. I was bummed. Just like MSM media is realizing people aren't falling for their junk anymore.

I'm tired of chasing the bs laser pointer of MSM. Let Tucker et al. call us dorks. (BTW wasn't he the one who wore a dumb ass bow tie for a long time and can't dance for crap?)

I say it is time for Revenge of the Nerds IV.

LibertyEagle
11-03-2007, 09:07 AM
Great and well thought-out post!!

Maybe we could do an ad type thing that shows a VAST variety of folks with a heading of 'WE support Ron Paul"....maybe a lawyer type looking guy, a punk rocker, a soccer mom, a truck driver, a doctor, a fireman, a policeman, a soldier, a college student, a senior citizen....you get the idea. Maybe just 10 - 15 obvious representations either photoshopped together or in an actual photopgraph. If any of us here are actually any of the above and could submit photos, maybe we could get this done.

This would be great, if we could somehow skillfully pull this off. Also, maybe having a statement at the end about what is actually drawing us together from across the political spectrum to support this man, Ron Paul. If we could do this and do it well, this would be a killer TV ad.

Adamsa
11-03-2007, 09:08 AM
We don't even get each other, how is anyone else from the outside supposed to get it?

Austin
11-03-2007, 09:10 AM
Tucker thinks that nearly all of Paul's supporters would freak out if we knew what he really stood for. I don't know about him, but most people I know don't shell out what little money they have for someone or something they don't know much about..

5.1 million from people who don't truly know what he stands for? OK.

Mr. White
11-03-2007, 09:13 AM
I'm skeptical enough to believe that they DO get us exactly and want to shut it down. One approach is marginalizing RP supporters into kooks.

With enough suppport from our numbers to keep that going strong.

LibertyEagle
11-03-2007, 09:14 AM
Yes. What Tucker doesn't seem to understand that while some of us may not agree with all of Paul's stances, we are willing to put those aside, because we understand that without freedom, none of this matters anyway.

LibertyEagle
11-03-2007, 09:16 AM
Where I DO think we leave ourselves wide open, is when we start promoting issues that have nothing to do with Paul's platform and thereby associate them with his campaign.

Austin
11-03-2007, 09:26 AM
Where I DO think we leave ourselves wide open, is when we start promoting issues that have nothing to do with Paul's platform and thereby associate them with his campaign.

Any examples? Just curious.

Corydoras
11-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Any examples? Just curious.

Go into Hot Topics and scan the titles quickly going back 3 months or so.

runderwo
11-03-2007, 09:34 AM
Tucker thinks that nearly all of Paul's supporters would freak out if we knew what he really stood for. I don't know about him, but most people I know don't shell out what little money they have for someone or something they don't know much about..

5.1 million from people who don't truly know what he stands for? OK.

OTOH, how many people shelled out for Giuliani or Romney just because they thought they were betting on a winner? I mean, their platforms can't be what Republicans really want, right?

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 01:09 PM
That was a GREAT post! You should spice it up, perfect it and send it in as an OpEd piece to your local large paper conglomerate. I bet it'd get published.
You know, that's an idea. I might do that. Unfortunately, I am afflicted with a bit of a lazy streak. I would much prefer that one of you take whatever inspiration you find in the post (or even just plagarize it, I sure don't care.) and wrote something really nice and sent it in to papers. I'm good in short burst, but I run out of gas pretty quick. We'll see.

MsDoodahs
11-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Good post. A mirror of my thoughts.
Put a thumb tack in it, and stick it to the wall.

Alternatively, put a nail in it, and hammer it onto the MSNBC front door.

:D

goldstandard
11-03-2007, 01:41 PM
Maybe we could do an ad type thing that shows a VAST variety of folks with a heading of 'WE support Ron Paul"....maybe a lawyer type looking guy, a punk rocker, a soccer mom, a truck driver, a doctor, a fireman, a policeman, a soldier, a college student, a senior citizen....you get the idea. Maybe just 10 - 15 obvious representations either photoshopped together or in an actual photopgraph. If any of us here are actually any of the above and could submit photos, maybe we could get this done.

Like these?:D
http://www.stonewallvets.org/images/TheVillagePeople.jpg

Meatwasp
11-03-2007, 01:57 PM
A thinking mans post. Thank you for expressing it for all of us Billy

slantedview
11-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Yep. Joel Stein equated Ron Paul supporters to a bunch of people who are just looking for an excuse to support whoever is the most radical, just for the sake of being radical, and Tucker let him get away with that.

For the record:

Not wanting war is radical.
Fiscal responsibility is radical.
Respecting individual liberties is radical.
Respecting the Constitution is radical.
Not wanting to forfeit national soverignty is radical.
Trying to prevent economic collapse is radical.

etc.

Eric21ND
11-03-2007, 02:12 PM
This would truly make an amazing commercial. We are all those things, because we embody the diversity and freedom of all Americans.

jcbraithwaite7
11-03-2007, 02:48 PM
I noticed how diverse we were after the debate in Orlando. When I was at the debate it was a homogenous bunch of out of touch Republicans.... rich old ladies with diamond elephant pins, $200 red, white and blue scarves and old guys that looked like they just walked off a golf course.... this mixed with the many young faces I recognized from the chickenhawk young Republican video. (Remember the one featuring all the various excuses for not enlisting themselves) I fit in the crowd because I'm attractive, clean cut and Republican, I even fooled the old lady next to me with the Sean Hannity crush... until she saw me applaud Dr. Paul while they booed. I couldn't wait to get out of there.

Then I went to downtown Orlando to see Dr. Paul (and get a much needed drink after the debate)

What I noticed was there were guys with piercings, people in suits, long hair, crew cuts, yuppies and grunge, old and young. Seriously, I was united with people that I have NOTHING in common with but our love of freedom and Dr. Paul's message. For Stein to boil it down and say that we are a bunch of nerds (and ugly ones at that!) is crap. He would like to lead the rest of the country to believe that a Ron Paul rally is like going to a Trekkie convention or as stimulating as a chess match. WE know he is wrong. It is like the old coca cola commerical... "I'd like to buy the world a coke... and keep it company in perfect harmony" Well... that is kind of how Dr. Paul's message seems... very uniting, very hopeful and if that is nerdy then let the nerd herd take back our country.

tnvoter
11-03-2007, 05:15 PM
He's catchin' on

Akus
11-03-2007, 05:28 PM
After watching Tucker last night it dawned on me what has been obvious all along - nobody in the media understands the Ron Paul movement at all.....

That's both bad and good. Bad because we are given a distorted publicity.

Good because you can't defeat that which you don't understand and also whatever image they create of us is quickly distorted when people find out that their next door neighbor, an average Joe just like them, who voted for Bush in 2000 and may be even in 04, goes to church on Sunday, goes to a regular job and pays taxes, puts that yard sign or that bumper sticker on their property.

ShowMeLiberty
11-03-2007, 06:27 PM
Excellent post, Billy!

You made me think of the old "Buy the World a Coke" commercial : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlFHEMVW-c

I think something like that is exactly what we need - short, low-budget, heartwarming and catchy. Somebody needs to suggest it to the campaign!

I can see it already - people of all ages and colors wearing shirts that read things like "Democrats for Ron Paul", "Independents for Ron Paul", "I never wanted to vote before". Or their job/profession - "Doctor", "Dishwasher", "Attorney", "Small Business Owner". The possibilities are endless!

klamath
11-03-2007, 06:36 PM
Excellent post and to add to it I will post what I posted a while back.
As I look through the members list and see everyone from Barry Goldwater supporters to Ralph Nader supporters I think that we might be able to exploit this angle. I don't know about you guys but it seems like in the last twenty years all politics has become extremely partisan, culminating really badly at the 2000 elections. And you always hear the phrase "can't the parties just compromise and just work for the good of the country?" I can tell you if Hillary gets elected the whole cycle of the Clinton years will start up again. Everything will be dredged up.
Do you know of any other candidate that has the extreme cross section of political beliefs behind one Candidate as Ron Paul? I have never seen it.
Forget the red states, forget the blue states, let’s bring these United States together!

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 06:36 PM
Excellent post, Billy!

You made me think of the old "Buy the World a Coke" commercial : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlFHEMVW-c

I think something like that is exactly what we need - short, low-budget, heartwarming and catchy. Somebody needs to suggest it to the campaign!

I can see it already - people of all ages and colors wearing shirts that read things like "Democrats for Ron Paul", "Independents for Ron Paul", "I never wanted to vote before". Or their job/profession - "Doctor", "Dishwasher", "Attorney", "Small Business Owner". The possibilities are endless!Well, people with contacts to the campaign do check out this forum, so maybe they can pass it on and it will inspire them to do something similar.

inibo
11-03-2007, 06:46 PM
He's catchin' on


I'm tellin' ya!

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 06:54 PM
or this, the NH group has produced its own pretty decent commercials and we have an assload genuiiiine Ron Paul supporters in here of every possible type - if we could come up with some sort of decent outline ourselves, hire a videographer and an editor and put the damn thing together our ownselves. I would put in for that. To be honest, I don't like being in the lead on things - I don't much like following either, I'm more of a get out of the way kind of guy. And you know, we have a whole bunch of folks putting together YouTubes vids with amazing dramatic visual abilities - more talented than any of the professionals any campaign hires. You've seen the crap that constitutes your typical campaign ad. With enough planning and minimal expense we could shoot this in a day using ourselves, edit it in a couple and use the guys who set up the other ads to arrange airtime. It's just something to think about. We have to discredit the media portrayal of us as dungeon and dragon players or stoners living in there grandparents basements - we probably are those things, but we much more also. I'm sorry, but the age of the professional is over. I have seen cinematic genius on YouTube - absolute brilliance. All credentials ever did was institutionalize mediocrity.

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 06:54 PM
I'm tellin' ya!Well, the ad really resonated with us in a goofy way. Let's hope it does the same with undecided.

BillyDkid
11-03-2007, 06:56 PM
Excellent post and to add to it I will post what I posted a while back.
As I look through the members list and see everyone from Barry Goldwater supporters to Ralph Nader supporters I think that we might be able to exploit this angle. I don't know about you guys but it seems like in the last twenty years all politics has become extremely partisan, culminating really badly at the 2000 elections. And you always hear the phrase "can't the parties just compromise and just work for the good of the country?" I can tell you if Hillary gets elected the whole cycle of the Clinton years will start up again. Everything will be dredged up.
Do you know of any other candidate that has the extreme cross section of political beliefs behind one Candidate as Ron Paul? I have never seen it.
Forget the red states, forget the blue states, let’s bring these United States together!That's an important point. The GOP had such irrationally intense hatred of Clinton that they would be willing to sacrifice the country itself to try to destroy him and her. Not that I'm a fan of either.

ShowMeLiberty
11-03-2007, 07:01 PM
or this, the NH group has produced its own pretty decent commercials and we have an assload genuiiiine Ron Paul supporters in here of every possible type - if we could come up with some sort of decent outline ourselves, hire a videographer and an editor and put the damn thing together our ownselves. I would put in for that. To be honest, I don't like being in the lead on things - I don't much like following either, I'm more of a get out of the way kind of guy. And you know, we have a whole bunch of folks putting together YouTubes vids with amazing dramatic visual abilities - more talented than any of the professionals any campaign hires. You've seen the crap that constitutes your typical campaign ad. With enough planning and minimal expense we could shoot this in a day using ourselves, edit it in a couple and use the guys who set up the other ads to arrange airtime. It's just something to think about. We have to discredit the media portrayal of us as dungeon and dragon players or stoners living in there grandparents basements - we probably are those things, but we much more also. I'm sorry, but the age of the professional is over. I have seen cinematic genius on YouTube - absolute brilliance. All credentials ever did was institutionalize mediocrity.

I'd put in for that too - great idea. Whoever wants to take the lead could start a ChipIn for the expenses. Maybe the person who did that amazing YouTube video "Our Power, Our Responsibility " would get involved. That video alone convinced almost everyone I sent it too that they need to vote for Ron Paul.

Cindy
11-03-2007, 07:06 PM
Where I DO think we leave ourselves wide open, is when we start promoting issues that have nothing to do with Paul's platform and thereby associate them with his campaign.

The guy Tucker was interviewing was painting RP supporters as being unattractive nerds, unlike the "good looking and hip Kennedy-esque Dean Crowed."

He referenced an RP supporter at an Iowa rally wearing revolutionary garb and said that was nerdy.

What about other 699 who were dressed like average americans?

Whatever! These are attempts to maginalize.

That guy came across like a shallow flake to me.

No matter what we all look like or believe, our votes count as much as any one elses, our money is just as good and our grass roots organisation is unprecedented!

Cheers to RP supporters!:cool:

P.S. Tucker can suck it when he says we don't understand RP. The shallow voters getting behind the trendy candidate support Obama. I think Tucker is the nerd if he hasn't figured that out. The deep thinkers with some depth, and courage to go against the status quo are the RP supporters.

They both sounded like two idiots in a box when they couldn't figure out why college students applauded the hardest during a speech, at phasing out the Federal Reserve and returning to sound money.

They did because they do understand Ron Paul and the issues VERY WELL!!!

ladyliberty
11-03-2007, 07:35 PM
http://www.news2wkrn.com/vv/2007/10/31/does-the-media-fear-ron-paul/

This article is a very good observation that expresses my sentiment exactly! what is going to happen if the media continue to attack Ron Paul and his supporters in this manner? how best can we pull the plug on the media morons of this country?

hard@work
11-03-2007, 08:48 PM
Wonderful post. 3 cheers to regular Americans!