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bobbyw24
08-16-2011, 05:05 AM
Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann’s victory in Saturday’s straw poll in Ames, Iowa has earned her a lot of media attention for her 2012 presidential bid. But nipping at her heels only 152 votes behind was Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who has gotten little-to-no attention from the media for his feat on Saturday.

And although one might think attention is deserved for Paul, according to Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer, Paul is being ignored for one reason: He doesn’t stand a chance. Krauthammer explained this on Monday’s “Special Report” on the Fox News Channel.

“Ron Paul is not going to be president of the United States,” Krauthammer said. “We’re not a libertarian country. It’s a very important strain of conservative thought but it’s not the dominant one.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/16/krauthammer-ron-paul-is-not-going-to-be-president-of-the-united-states/#ixzz1VBltTUdY

Sola_Fide
08-16-2011, 05:27 AM
He's right. Corporatism is the dominant strain in America on both the left and the right.

johnrocks
08-16-2011, 05:34 AM
If he does well enough to make this filthy neo con's head explode, it'll make my day.

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-16-2011, 05:50 AM
Wishful thinking Krauthammer.

fisharmor
08-16-2011, 06:01 AM
He's right, you know.

The media haven't even started the underhanded tricks yet.
Hell, they could start talking about him in their 24/7 "Ron Paul is a Martian pedophile" campaign, and who's going to stop them?
The government?
The guys who license them, who have proved time and again they don't want Paul anywhere near a position of power, ever?

The party hasn't even started their underhanded tricks yet.
They shut down an entire fucking convention last time to keep him from getting attention.

I ain't saying that we should stop. I just think you all need to be a little realistic about this.
In the end, this is not a problem that a single 75-cent bullet can't fix for them.

bobbyw24
08-16-2011, 06:05 AM
He's right. Corporatism is the dominant strain in America on both the left and the right.

Yup

DamianTV
08-16-2011, 06:51 AM
He's right. Corporatism is the dominant strain in America on both the left and the right.

I agree to a certain extent. Corporatism is the Dominant strain, but it only reflects the duress of a small group of men. Liberty is the Blood of this Country.

acptulsa
08-16-2011, 06:55 AM
Krauthammer is letting his arrogance overshadow two little details. When something is tried and fails, Americans tend to alter their views. And he isn't the forty or so million active voters of this republic. He may be as arrogant as all forty million combined, but that's not the same thing.

So, his blanket statements are meaningless, and he needs to be reminded of this. It really doesn't matter how big his megaphone is any more. Forty million voices are more than enough to drown him out completely. Whether he likes it or not.

TroySmith
08-16-2011, 06:57 AM
The pressure is really on for these guys to all come out openly, CNN/Fox/all of them, to outright say he won't be president. That mean's they know he isn't far off from actually becoming prezz. Keep the pressure on. Respond in the article sections. Pass the video around showing the bias. People will turn on them eventually.

Acala
08-16-2011, 07:07 AM
Krauthammer's life energy comes from his hatred. He is a pathetic fascist. Hence, Ron Paul is essentially the "anti-Krauthammer". A President Ron Paul is Krauthammer's worst nightmare. He would tell ANY lie, do ANYTHING to stop it from happening because it would essentially end his sad, hateful life.

llepard
08-16-2011, 07:08 AM
Hey Charles, it's like a bad dream isn't it? And it just keeps getting worse. Keep repeating that line until you have to eat it.

We drink from your milkshake.

Anti Federalist
08-16-2011, 07:12 AM
Hey Charles, it's like a bad dream isn't it? And it just keeps getting worse. Keep repeating that line until you have to eat it.

We drink from your milkshake.

Hah hah.

Winning!

DamianTV
08-16-2011, 07:25 AM
Hey Charles, it's like a bad dream isn't it? And it just keeps getting worse. Keep repeating that line until you have to eat it.

We drink from your milkshake.

Im not going to the Yard for that Milkshake, Im Lactose Teh Intolerant!

---

Edit: Rofl @ Anti Federalist! Winning!

Bossobass
08-16-2011, 08:20 AM
The candidate who sells the most toothpaste will win.

Bosso

Kords21
08-16-2011, 08:23 AM
You know I think these guys are stirring the pot due some kind of bet they have. "Who can get the most e-mail from Ron Paul supporters" the loser has to say his name on air or something.

AuH20
08-16-2011, 08:27 AM
the fact that he even uttered this is progress.

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-16-2011, 08:30 AM
the fact that he even uttered this is progress.

+internet The fact people have to address him means he's a threat to tyranny.

bobbyw24
08-16-2011, 08:31 AM
the fact that he even uttered this is progress.

True

kylejack
08-16-2011, 08:32 AM
Not surprised, Krauthammer is a raging hawk, roughly on the level of Bill Kristol.

Romulus
08-16-2011, 08:38 AM
That fact that the media ignore or slanders RP is truth of our power.

ifthenwouldi
08-16-2011, 08:38 AM
Do real people actually care what people like Krauthammer think? Really, I'm curious to know.

kahless
08-16-2011, 08:46 AM
Well if he is not and the choice is to continue down the current road we are on then I hope this movement continues after the election to develop and support grassroots regional succession movements. Otherwise this movement will be just Ron becoming a historical figure like Barry Goldwater. Great ideas that were never adopted.

Deborah K
08-16-2011, 08:47 AM
Sauerkrauthammer and his ilk will soon be viewed as irrelevant.

AuH20
08-16-2011, 08:51 AM
Well if he is not and the choice is to continue down the current road we are on then I hope this movement continues after the election to develop and support grassroots regional succession movements. Otherwise this movement will be just Ron becoming a historical figure like Barry Goldwater. Great ideas that were never adopted.

That's why stopping Perry is paramount. Not only will he destroy the republican party for good but he's going to kill Rand's very good chances at becoming president. They will blame the tea party for Perry's wrath. Right now Ron is laying down the framework, in that by 2016, the establishment will be completely decimated. We're taking flak but our bombers are almost over berlin.

Deborah K
08-16-2011, 08:53 AM
Well if he is not and the choice is to continue down the current road we are on then I hope this movement continues after the election to develop and support grassroots regional succession movements. Otherwise this movement will be just Ron becoming a historical figure like Barry Goldwater. Great ideas that were never adopted.

The thought of this terrifies me. We are in a do or die situation. And we only have until February to convince the nation to choose him as the Republican candidate. Which is why I recommend everyone set up neighborhood networking because when shtf, they won't be able to collapse us into their pre-planned system change if we are ready for it.

angelatc
08-16-2011, 08:54 AM
the fact that he even uttered this is progress.

And he didn't call him him crazy. He said that libertarianism is an important strain of conservatism, but it isn't the dominant one. That is indeed a valid point, as well as an apparent acknowledgement that they can't win without us in their tent. All political conversations should be as civil.

YumYum
08-16-2011, 08:56 AM
Do real people actually care what people like Krauthammer think? Really, I'm curious to know.

He is a neocon Zionist who is a voice for the neocon Zionists. Trotsky's grand-kids don't want Ron Paul to be president.

Jace
08-16-2011, 09:09 AM
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HOLLYWOOD
08-16-2011, 09:12 AM
He is a neocon Zionist who is a voice for the neocon Zionists. Trotsky's grand-kids don't want Ron Paul to be president.Yum, you always have a point point at whacking problems with a sledgehammer. Charles Krauthammer is a Fascist, he constantly pushes state control over the people and reinforces RICO crimes between government and corporations. Frankly, I can't see anyone following this "Henry Kissinger II" CONMAN.

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-16-2011, 09:13 AM
Do real people actually care what people like Krauthammer think? Really, I'm curious to know.

Probably. I thought people weren't ignorant enough to believe Perry is a better president because he would declare war on Iran without a second thought, but a lot of people on Twitter support him in place of Paul on that matter.

VBRonPaulFan
08-16-2011, 09:30 AM
Do real people actually care what people like Krauthammer think? Really, I'm curious to know.

Yes. The 40's/50's viewership that consistently watches only Fox and tunes in to watch O'Reilly/Hannity listen to this guy. To shrug political analysts on any major news station off brusquely is frankly...stupid. They wouldn't come on those shows time and time again if they didn't have people that really listened to what they had to say. It may pain you to believe it, but that's how it is. It will be hard to do, but turning those guys our way would help us out a great deal with the slightly older republican crowd that has been fed warmongering BS for years.

Aliangel
08-16-2011, 09:35 AM
If Ron doesnt get nominated I plan to vote for Obama just so perry doesnt get elected. The media sellouts will find perry unelectable without our support.

AuH20
08-16-2011, 09:43 AM
If Ron doesnt get nominated I plan to vote for Obama just so perry doesnt get elected. The media sellouts will find perry unelectable without our support.

That's not that bad of a strategy considering that the House will act as a firewall against his likely shenanigans.

angelatc
08-16-2011, 09:45 AM
That's not that bad of a strategy considering that the House will act as a firewall against his likely shenanigans.

And a Perry win would make it hard for Rand Paul to run and win in 2016.

VBRonPaulFan
08-16-2011, 09:49 AM
Goddamn right i'd vote for Obama over Perry... at least if Obama got voted back in people would be against the spending and government encroachment. If Perry gets elected, everyone will think their job is done and fall back into complacency and apathy.

YumYum
08-16-2011, 10:20 AM
Yum, you always have a point point at whacking problems with a sledgehammer. Charles Krauthammer is a Fascist, he constantly pushes state control over the people and reinforces RICO crimes between government and corporations. Frankly, I can't see anyone following this "Henry Kissinger II" CONMAN.

My reference to "Trotsky's Grandkids" is from a book called "They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons". The kids of Trotsky were Irving Kristol and his gang, and they were Trotsky socialists/communists. Their kids (of which Krauthammer belongs to) became hippies/yippies/yuppies/neocons, and have one agenda: the U.S. giving 100% support to the government of Israel.

I had hoped that the orthodox Zionists who support Ron Paul would prevail. But its obvious that they haven't, and without strong support from some part of the Jewish community, Ron's chances are very slim in winning this contest. I have talked to Jews who really like Ron Paul, but I think they have bit into the lies that "he isn't electable", and they are watching this from the sidelines. We need them actively involved to counter the Zionists who don't like Ron Paul. I have been doing my best at every chance I get to promote Ron Paul to my Jewish family and friends.

http://www.amazon.com/They-Knew-Were-Right-Neocons/dp/0385511817

acptulsa
08-16-2011, 12:08 PM
If Ron doesnt get nominated I plan to vote for Obama just so perry doesnt get elected. The media sellouts will find perry unelectable without our support.

This.


And a Perry win would make it hard for Rand Paul to run and win in 2016.

And this. If we can't make the G.O.P. conservative, we need to make it irrelevant. Because otherwise it's just going to wrap itself in the flag, pick up the hypocrite's cross, and lead us into the temptation to imperialism and tyranny until there's nothing left that's recognizeable as the U.S.A.

Philhelm
08-16-2011, 12:42 PM
At least Ron Paul can open up a ketchup bottle.

ItsTime
08-16-2011, 12:43 PM
And if Ron Paul is not the GOP nominee, Obama will get another 4 years. It is up to the GOP to decide.

purplechoe
08-16-2011, 01:30 PM
Well, he is right. We're not a libertarian country. We're a fascist/ socialist nation and so are Krauthammer's views. But give us time, we're are working one correcting that problem...

purplechoe
08-16-2011, 01:31 PM
Do real people actually care what people like Krauthammer think? Really, I'm curious to know.

Sadly yes...

trey4sports
08-16-2011, 01:33 PM
Yes. The 40's/50's viewership that consistently watches only Fox and tunes in to watch O'Reilly/Hannity listen to this guy. To shrug political analysts on any major news station off brusquely is frankly...stupid. They wouldn't come on those shows time and time again if they didn't have people that really listened to what they had to say. It may pain you to believe it, but that's how it is. It will be hard to do, but turning those guys our way would help us out a great deal with the slightly older republican crowd that has been fed warmongering BS for years.

That is the hard truth.

bunklocoempire
08-16-2011, 01:46 PM
If Ron doesnt get nominated I plan to vote for Obama just so perry doesnt get elected. The media sellouts will find perry unelectable without our support.

and


And a Perry win would make it hard for Rand Paul to run and win in 2016.

I also would have to agree. Ugh, :(

The lesser of two evils yellow belly crowd are already thinking the O's low approval/economy will make it a cake walk for Perry. Not on my watch.

I'm trying to find a nice way to put it to the l.o.t.e. crowd. "This hurts me more than it hurts you" might suffice.:)

Ron Paul or BUST. :collins:'em.


Bunkloco

foofighter20x
08-16-2011, 01:54 PM
Krauthammer: ‘Ron Paul is not going to be president of the United States’

And I'll never subscribe to any media who publish Krauthammer, nor buy any product of service from their advertisers.

Seems fair to me.

ClayTrainor
08-16-2011, 01:58 PM
He's right, you know.

The media haven't even started the underhanded tricks yet.
Hell, they could start talking about him in their 24/7 "Ron Paul is a Martian pedophile" campaign, and who's going to stop them?
The government?
The guys who license them, who have proved time and again they don't want Paul anywhere near a position of power, ever?

The party hasn't even started their underhanded tricks yet.
They shut down an entire fucking convention last time to keep him from getting attention.

I ain't saying that we should stop. I just think you all need to be a little realistic about this.
In the end, this is not a problem that a single 75-cent bullet can't fix for them.

+rep

enjerth
08-16-2011, 02:05 PM
“Ron Paul is not going to be president of the United States,” Krauthammer said. “We’re not a libertarianCONSTITUTIONAL country. It’s a very important strain of conservative thought but it’s not the dominant one.”

FTFY, Kraut-hammer.