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angelatc
11-02-2007, 04:43 PM
MSNBC coming up soon...

bolidew
11-02-2007, 04:44 PM
good.

American
11-02-2007, 04:44 PM
Yeah, I've had it with this F**KING C**K SMOKER, the way he's leading this story he might as well not say anything.

"We these people turn out and vote? Of course not"

fuck that asshole.

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 04:45 PM
It is about US! Da interwebs... so I agree this should be in Grassroots..

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 04:45 PM
He was joking...calm down and listen to TONE


Yeah, I've had it with this F**KING C**K SMOKER, the way he's leading this story he might as well not say anything.

angelatc
11-02-2007, 04:46 PM
"Will it translate into votes?"

constitutional
11-02-2007, 04:46 PM
I don't know if I would want to watch it. I mean, geez... he talks about Ron Paul all the way in the end and still says negative stuff about him. He is a bipolar sob.

speciallyblend
11-02-2007, 04:47 PM
I don't know if I would want to watch it. I mean, geez... he talks about Ron Paul all the way in the end and still says negative stuff about him. He is a bipolar sob.

I AGREE

crhoades
11-02-2007, 04:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1NupxasQWs

angelatc
11-02-2007, 04:48 PM
The guy who is on there now seems to be falling asleep. :)

Akus
11-02-2007, 04:50 PM
ifl

American
11-02-2007, 04:51 PM
If you cant see where this is going then your not really watching. Roger Stone is setting the stage for what he is talking about. He is marginalizing Ron Paul completely, but not directly.....if they led right into the RP piece, but thats what it looks like.

olehounddog
11-02-2007, 04:52 PM
Next

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 04:53 PM
american: he has a way of fooling you. Last time he did this it was a very good piece on Ron Paul... So I am holding off on judgment till I see it

Mortikhi
11-02-2007, 04:54 PM
comin on within 1 min...
554 cst right now

evadmurd
11-02-2007, 04:54 PM
MSNBC has been at least increasing coverage. They know than can spike their numbers...which of course they can use. Waiting on Tucker.

Mortikhi
11-02-2007, 04:56 PM
son of a bitch its joel stein

deedles
11-02-2007, 04:56 PM
the nob from time magazine
"they're crazy"... that's what he says about us.

hellah10
11-02-2007, 04:56 PM
this joel guy cant talk for shit

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 04:57 PM
crazy in a good way


the nob from time magazine
"they're crazy"... that's what he says about us.

hellah10
11-02-2007, 04:58 PM
my little brother can talk better then this douchebag

deedles
11-02-2007, 04:58 PM
obscure subjects... like

THE CONSTITUTION?

olehounddog
11-02-2007, 04:58 PM
They just don't understand FREEDOM

speciallyblend
11-02-2007, 04:58 PM
oo i hate this guy from times and tucker can kiss my ass

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE IDIOTS TALKING ABOUT

WHAT ASSHOLES TUCKER IS OVER done with him ,go getem paulies SOB'S

hellah10
11-02-2007, 04:59 PM
hows this guy a journalist?

kherty
11-02-2007, 04:59 PM
Is this guy high? What is wrong with him? He can't even answer the questions without stumbling around and he is criticizing Dr. Paul's speaking abilities?

Mortikhi
11-02-2007, 04:59 PM
he got his guy falkes day shot in

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 05:00 PM
ok unleash...

American
11-02-2007, 05:00 PM
Yep, leave it to the Zionist to just really play this into a party of freaks, yeah that was great coverage. Hell i'm stoked.

axiomata
11-02-2007, 05:00 PM
Biggest ... douche ... ever

ronpaulyourmom
11-02-2007, 05:00 PM
lol that couldn't have gone any worse.

deedles
11-02-2007, 05:00 PM
That's it for Tucker.

See... now the story has become us... instead of what Ron Paul is talking about.

This is how they are going to approach this campaign now.. "all his supporters are nerds and crazy"

evadmurd
11-02-2007, 05:01 PM
OBSCURE topics?

Yeh, like stopping a war and fiscal responsibility. EGADS!

Mortikhi
11-02-2007, 05:01 PM
Joel Stein forgot to opt out of being listed on google phonebook.

Im just sayin....

If you wanna say hi or something....

deedles
11-02-2007, 05:01 PM
The Ron Paul revolution is now going to get the tabloid "Bat Boy" treatment.

And the masses will suck it right up. God, I hope not.

reaver
11-02-2007, 05:02 PM
roundhouse kick to the face.

jcbraithwaite7
11-02-2007, 05:02 PM
It's time for Revenge of The Nerds. So not only are we crazy and nerdy... we are ugly? "Oh no he didn't"

This is such crap.

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
you win some you lose some.... no biggie... but...

texasbelle
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
That sucked... We are NERDY!! Is that the best they have!!!??? UGH!!! :mad:

Gilby
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
Don't worry guys, only 8 people were watching.

American
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
tucker@msnbc.com

You know what to do with this email. WITHOUT MERCY!!!!

axiomata
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
roundhouse kick to the face.
we need to ask huckabee's campaign if we can borrow chuck norris for a day

BillyDkid
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
Boy, that really sucked. Thank Tuck!!! Paint all his supporters as marginal whackos and describe RP a joke of a candidate. And Guy Fawkes - ooohh that's WAY out there!!! Fuckem, fuckem all.

texasbelle
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
ROFL! Yeah your right only 8 people!!! :)

82ndVET4RP
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
I would rather be a Nerd that is free then a cool person under a dictatorship

constitutional
11-02-2007, 05:03 PM
I did not watch the interview, but if it was bad... don't upload it to youtube.

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 05:04 PM
sadly yes... we win some we lose some... it can be good news all the time.


That sucked... We are NERDY!! Is that the best they have!!!??? UGH!!! :mad:

RPTXState
11-02-2007, 05:04 PM
For every good (Leno), there must be a bad (Tucker).

Persevere and carry on. The revolution will only fail if we let it.

kherty
11-02-2007, 05:04 PM
http ://www.thejoelstein.com/thejoelstein.com/Contact.html

speciallyblend
11-02-2007, 05:04 PM
Phuck emails ,I want phone numbers

Apauled
11-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Guys it is exposure and he who is on the neo con payroll must "play it off" as is the jerk is right and funny, People hear it and will go perform thier own dur dilligence. Remember thay beat you up before whip thier ass.

Nelson

Lord Xar
11-02-2007, 05:05 PM
Can someone post synopsis? We are getting "text bites", but can someone give the lowdown of it all.

Mortikhi
11-02-2007, 05:05 PM
http ://www.thejoelstein.com/thejoelstein.com/Contact.html
or google phonebook joel stein! He's there, but I can't post it. hint hint wink wink

deedles
11-02-2007, 05:06 PM
I say we IGNORE IT AND DO NOT EMAIL THIS CARLSON PERSON. If they think it's a hot button they will keep on pushing it and pushing it.

They are throwing dirt against the wall to see what sticks with the sheeple.

We have to get out and talk to more people and let them see the pleasant, intelligent RP supporter... NOT flame this clown and give him more ammo.

Look already at the comments taken from us about the 1st NH ad. Big story in Slate... how much the RP people hated his first ad.

Start playing poker and keep it close to the vest from now on.

Throwback280s
11-02-2007, 05:06 PM
We need to get Donna D'Errico on Tucker to refute that Time liberal hack's assertions about ron paul fans.

Naraku
11-02-2007, 05:06 PM
As the old saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 05:06 PM
Youtube???

OptionsTrader
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Tucker pulled the I'm the only one that likes Ron Paul for the right reasons and everyone else is a crazy lunatic BS again.

constitutional
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
I say we IGNORE IT AND DO NOT EMAIL THIS CARLSON PERSON. If they think it's a hot button they will keep on pushing it and pushing it.

They are throwing dirt against the wall to see what sticks with the sheeple.

We have to get out and talk to more people and let them see the pleasant, intelligent RP supporter... NOT flame this clown and give him more ammo.

Look already at the comments taken from us about the 1st NH ad. Big story in Slate... how much the RP people hated his first ad.

Start playing poker and keep it close to the vest from now on.

AGREE! THIS POST SUMS IT ALL UP!

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Ron Paul is a small nerd
His followers are crazy, ugly, insane and nerds.
Ron Paul sucks at speaking (as the ass stumbles all over his drugged out words)
Mentioned how far reaching Ron Paul campaign is... to all the bad parts of the other parties..


Can someone post synopsis? We are getting "text bites", but can someone give the lowdown of it all.

American
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
thejoelstein@yahoo.com

fletcher
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Tucker is surprised that people like more about Paul than his position on the war? "What, like limited government?" That is considered a crazy position nowadays? They both are idiots.

Lord Xar
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
"who" is joel stein, and why is he important.

paulitics
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
So, this sounded like an encapsulation of the notorious time article, with the Guy Falkes, nerdy guy references. Is that the gist of it? Or was it just a brief mention with alot more covered?

ItsTime
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
he is not he wrote that Times piece didnt he? I dunno but I think so


"who" is joel stein, and why is he important.

Matt_R
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
I think it's funny how two political corespondents can call anyone nerdy. Since when is being involved in politics at all, "cool"?

Stealth4
11-02-2007, 05:07 PM
Can we say we are dealing with the "attack" phase now?

Im not opposed to e-mailing tucker (I havent seen the clip yet, just read the responses), but we need to do it in a completely mature, intelligent way which focuses on the shortcomings, bias and poor reporting of this clip.

Either that or we agree not to waste our time on this douche no-integrity wanna-be reporter.

deedles
11-02-2007, 05:08 PM
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/016572.html

Everyone seen this already... this is what I mean.

Geronimo
11-02-2007, 05:08 PM
Yep, leave it to the fucking Zionist to just really play this into a party of freaks..

At the risk of sounding anti-semitic, they're all Zionists.

texasbelle
11-02-2007, 05:08 PM
i agree emails will do nothing.. obviously Tucker is using RP to boost his ratings. The story was the last 3 minutes of the show.

conner_condor
11-02-2007, 05:08 PM
Start having people youtube news stations that has Ron Paul on. Then we don't have to watch it on cable and boost their ratings. More than one way to fuck their ratings. They will learn..

paulitics
11-02-2007, 05:08 PM
As the old saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

I disagree. John Edwards haircut, DeanScream, Alexander flannel shirts,on and on.

Vaughn
11-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Try and be polite in your emails- even if Joel is a complete and total jerk. We need to show him we are not "nerds", I mean could you get any more childish then that? We are concerned citizens who want to go back to our constitutional roots. This piece was not journalism, it was trash.

American
11-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Can someone post synopsis? We are getting "text bites", but can someone give the lowdown of it all.

Tucker: Tell me some bullshit about the Ron Paul Revolution.

Zionist Stein: These people are nuts, they are people who dress as revolutionaries hold bells and are really freaky.

Tucker: WOW

this is from frankenSTEINS front page:



That guy behind me? Totally gay for me. Hell, I’d be too.
In case you stumbled here by accident, I’m the guy who loves porn and hates America.

pdavis
11-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Can someone post synopsis? We are getting "text bites", but can someone give the lowdown of it all.

I didn't think it was as bad as everyone else thinks.

angelatc
11-02-2007, 05:09 PM
As the old saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity.

You are not alone, my friend.

Geronimo
11-02-2007, 05:11 PM
"who" is joel stein, and why is he important.

He's a "writer" for the LA Times, but I think he was noted more for being one of the regular talking heads on VH1's "Remember the 70s/80s/90s" shows

Magsec
11-02-2007, 05:12 PM
I didn't watch it but all the criticism here indicates that it didn't go well. Why would Tucker attack and betray someone who he voted for back in his college days? He should know that RP is sincere and means business and HAS NOT changed. Also, the only thing more "nerdy" than supporting RP now is supporting him back in '88 when he was pretty much a noname in the media.

P.S. I was just watching GB (lay off plz), Penn Jillette was talking about Bush having too much power and GB cut him off saying "You're beginning to sound like a crazy Ron Paul Guy!" Ugh, right wing commentators cut Hillary/Obama more slack than poor ol' 72 year old Ron Paul.

huchahucha
11-02-2007, 05:13 PM
Wow, I didn't realize Joel Stein was the guy that did the TIME article. He's the same guy who wrote the opinion piece in the LA times saying that he doesn't support the troops and the war in Iraq is ultimately the military's fault.

Who gives a shit what that walking talking afterbirth thinks?

deedles
11-02-2007, 05:15 PM
[P.S. I was just watching GB (lay off plz), Penn Jillette was talking about Bush having too much power and GB cut him off saying "You're beginning to sound like a crazy Ron Paul Guy!" Ugh, right wing commentators cut Hillary/Obama more slack than poor ol' 72 year old Ron Paul.[/QUOTE]

GB?

texasbelle
11-02-2007, 05:16 PM
You know what ticks me off more than anything. Why do these media people think its ok to bash a 10-term congressman who served in the Air force, who is a DR, who has been married to the same woman for 50 years, and has an impeccable voting record to prove he is the REAL DEAL!! Why is it ok to make fun of him or his support!?? ugh! i hate MSM!

Magsec
11-02-2007, 05:16 PM
Glenn Beck

Van Damme
11-02-2007, 05:17 PM
[P.S. I was just watching GB (lay off plz), Penn Jillette was talking about Bush having too much power and GB cut him off saying "You're beginning to sound like a crazy Ron Paul Guy!" Ugh, right wing commentators cut Hillary/Obama more slack than poor ol' 72 year old Ron Paul.

GB?[/QUOTE]

I believe GB is Glenn Beck.

ronpaulfan
11-02-2007, 05:19 PM
Tucker is a f***ing SHILL. He does not genuinely support Ron Paul. I figured this out the day he came out with that bullshit "Strippers for Ron Paul" show. Tucker makes us look bad at every turn. He is a textbook shill and the worst kind because a lot of Ron Paul supporters believe Tucker is on our side. Tucker is a c*** sucking douchebag.

Watch "Ron Paul Gets Knocked Down" in my signature. I staple "SHILL" on Tucker's fat head. Don't ever trust that mother f***er.

Liberty
11-02-2007, 05:23 PM
You know what ticks me off more than anything. Why do these media people think its ok to bash a 10-term congressman who served in the Air force, who is a DR, who has been married to the same woman for 50 years, and has an impeccable voting record to prove he is the REAL DEAL!! Why is it ok to make fun of him or his support!?? ugh! i hate MSM!

Excellent! They're the wackos.

kherty
11-02-2007, 05:23 PM
This piece was not journalism, it was trash.


I agree...its terrible and most people would have turned the channel

American
11-02-2007, 05:27 PM
I wonder how Tucker picks these guys he interviews.

Joel Stein: Still an Asshole
http://gawker.com/news/joel-stein/joel-stein-still-an-asshole-225471.php

r3volution
11-02-2007, 05:28 PM
youtube or it did not happen ..

Edward
11-02-2007, 05:28 PM
I say we IGNORE IT AND DO NOT EMAIL THIS CARLSON PERSON. If they think it's a hot button they will keep on pushing it and pushing it.

They are throwing dirt against the wall to see what sticks with the sheeple.

We have to get out and talk to more people and let them see the pleasant, intelligent RP supporter... NOT flame this clown and give him more ammo.

Look already at the comments taken from us about the 1st NH ad. Big story in Slate... how much the RP people hated his first ad.

Start playing poker and keep it close to the vest from now on.Wise words.

Magsec
11-02-2007, 05:28 PM
Instead of resorting to anger to make some rash statements, wouldn't questions better our positions? Ask questions, make them think, hopefully something can click eventually.

texasbelle
11-02-2007, 05:29 PM
Now I am so fired up about Ron Paul that the 5th is going to be the day I take my revenge on MSM. I encourage everyone to do the same. If you cant donate hand out some slim jims!

Nash
11-02-2007, 05:29 PM
I know this is slightly off-topic from the Tucker/Stein bash fest we're having here but Tucker did mention his important point:

"Will these people turn out and vote? Of course not"

He's being snarky here but he has a point. Historically campaigns like ours don't go anywhere on election day because the people supporting candidates like Ron Paul don't go out and vote. I'm not saying those of us on these boards won't, but the people we convert need to be motivated to actually go to the polls.

It derailed McGovern, it derailed Tom Hayden's Senate campaign and it derailed Howard Dean.

Politicians who have a base of support from college students historically do very poorly because those "supporters" don't bother going to the polls and voting.

Since voting isn't online we need to make sure we don't repeat the mistakes of these failed campaigns.

Just something to think about when you're not sending Tucker hate mail.

American
11-02-2007, 05:33 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, that is all.....

nbhadja
11-02-2007, 05:33 PM
Actually it's the opposite. All RP supporters would give an arm and leg for him. It is one of the few chances to turn this country around. If anything, its the other neocon candidates that will have their supporters vote less. It's the same thing for those brainwashed neocons every year, if their candidate won't get elected another neocon will, so no motivation. If our candidate doesn't get elected, America continues its downward spiral.

richard1984
11-02-2007, 05:33 PM
You know what ticks me off more than anything. Why do these media people think its ok to bash a 10-term congressman who served in the Air force, who is a DR, who has been married to the same woman for 50 years, and has an impeccable voting record to prove he is the REAL DEAL!! Why is it ok to make fun of him or his support!?? ugh! i hate MSM!

I agree 100%!!!

It really bothers me for those reasons as well. Their disrespect and dissent is appalling...even bordering on treason (especially when the truth comes to light for the rest of America).... :mad:


A Ron Paul presidency will be soooo sweet! :cool:

Valene
11-02-2007, 05:34 PM
MSM + CFR = Clinton or Guiliani

Tucker + NIce things about DR Paul = Fired

American
11-02-2007, 05:35 PM
Instead of flower we should send Tucker a nice basket of horse shit. Just a big steaming pile of horse shit to thank him for the episode that resembles this basket.

r3volution
11-02-2007, 05:35 PM
youtube or your all makin shit up ..

American
11-02-2007, 05:36 PM
youtube or your all makin shit up ..

Dont even start, I havent heard anything from you today and already its to much......:D

r3volution
11-02-2007, 05:40 PM
Dont even start, I havent heard anything from you today and already its to much......:D


i just wanna see what all the stink is over , some people here make a big deal about nothing sometimes .

Nash
11-02-2007, 05:41 PM
Actually it's the opposite. All RP supporters would give an arm and leg for him. It is one of the few chances to turn this country around. If anything, its the other neocon candidates that will have their supporters vote less. It's the same thing for those brainwashed neocons every year, if their candidate won't get elected another neocon will, so no motivation. If our candidate doesn't get elected, America continues its downward spiral.

All *hardcare RP supporters would but not all RP leaners (he seems pretty cool I guess sure) are necessarily going to the polls. At least that is what history tells us.

Remember many neo-con backers aren't even following the election at this point, or if they are it is maybe reading one article a week and watching the evening news. These people don't go to rallies or post on message boards or vote in online polls, they do however vote on election day and we need to be aware of that.

We should make a point to not only "support" Ron Paul but to actually register R and vote for him. It seems obvious but history tells us it's something we should be doing.

dmitchell
11-02-2007, 05:42 PM
Good grief, please don't send angry letters. It accomplishes nothing good. I watched the segment. It played up the fringe element of Paul's base and it was sensationalist, but that's what the press does. Let it go.

Throwback280s
11-02-2007, 05:44 PM
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/klein/article/0,9565,490843,00.html

Joe Klein is a CFR member. That explains his elitism and ideology.

ronpaulfan
11-02-2007, 05:46 PM
Instead of flower we should send Tucker a nice basket of horse shit. Just a big steaming pile of horse shit to thank him for the episode that resembles this basket.

we need a chipin for this.

:D

Liberty
11-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Actually it's the opposite. All RP supporters would give an arm and leg for him. It is one of the few chances to turn this country around. If anything, its the other neocon candidates that will have their supporters vote less. It's the same thing for those brainwashed neocons every year, if their candidate won't get elected another neocon will, so no motivation. If our candidate doesn't get elected, America continues its downward spiral.

I agree. That's why Ron does well in the Fox text polls after their debates. Little interest in the other candidates. Has anyone seen any supporters for Giuliani present when he travels? All I've seen are reporters. MSM trying to tell us who the nominee will be.

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 05:47 PM
Youtube?!?!

Throwback280s
11-02-2007, 05:51 PM
Here's the correct link to the Time article saying Klein's a CFR member.
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/k...490843,00.html

It's at the bottom of his Time profile.

Nash
11-02-2007, 05:52 PM
I agree. That's why Ron does well in the Fox text polls after their debates. Little interest in the other candidates. Has anyone seen any supporters for Giuliani present when he travels? All I've seen are reporters. MSM trying to tell us who the nominee will be.

Old people don't have cell phones and don't text message. They don't even generally watch debates on cable tv. Old people don't attend rallies.

Old people vote in actual elections. College students do not

Wake up please. We are not "winning" right now. Not yet anyway. We can get there but there is catching up to do. Please do not think we have this thing in the bag.

American
11-02-2007, 05:57 PM
Here's the correct link to the Time article saying Klein's a CFR member.
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/k...490843,00.html

It's at the bottom of his Time profile.

Right, you cant even post a freakin link right and you say he is CFR....

The tin foil hat section is in the other board, this is grassroots section. moron

paulitics
11-02-2007, 05:58 PM
Old people don't have cell phones and don't text message. They don't even generally watch debates on cable tv. Old people don't attend rallies.

Old people vote in actual elections. College students do not

Wake up please. We are not "winning" right now. Not yet anyway. We can get there but there is catching up to do. Please do not think we have this thing in the bag.

very true.

werdd
11-02-2007, 06:03 PM
youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuubeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Youtube!

prz...

r3volution
11-02-2007, 06:04 PM
outubeyay

nullvalu
11-02-2007, 06:07 PM
Here's the correct link to the Time article saying Klein's a CFR member.
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/k...490843,00.html

It's at the bottom of his Time profile.

You've posted this link all over the board but the URL is malformed.. Would you mind fixing it?

ChooseLiberty
11-02-2007, 06:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgkZHD4pbs


Now up.

werdd
11-02-2007, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgkZHD4pbs


Now up.

thx

Adamsa
11-02-2007, 06:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgkZHD4pbs


Now up.

Love joo.

ChooseLiberty
11-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Also here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGMaynTbry0


And Tucker has turned into a COMPLETE PERFECTED A-HOLE.

r3volution
11-02-2007, 06:15 PM
OK , that guy was a douche but i don't see why any of you are mad at tucker ..

nullvalu
11-02-2007, 06:16 PM
He's definately a member of the CFR, just do a google search, you'll find plenty of stuff.

paulitics
11-02-2007, 06:17 PM
It thought it was good until the end. Not a good sign when they made Guy Falkes day seem more radical than 911 truthers. It didn't seem like Tucker was acting, just generally caught off guard by it.

werdd
11-02-2007, 06:17 PM
whats his email, i cant find it

literatim
11-02-2007, 06:17 PM
They both show their ignorance on Guy Fawkes Night. It is a celebration of the foiling of the gun powder plot.

Is that Stein guy on drugs?

ChooseLiberty
11-02-2007, 06:18 PM
Does Carlson support the Iraq Quagmire? I get the feeling he's got an agenda for trying to screw Dr. Paul's campaign. But like someone said - there's only about 3 people watching Tucker and 2 of those are recording for youtube. LOL.

mkrfctr
11-02-2007, 06:20 PM
thx for youtube. at least that one was funny/amusing, that guy was genuinely responding by what he thought, no holds barred - so many of the talking heads are just that, talking heads, no real personality behind them, you never get the sense they are a real person, just there to mouth out their assigned talking points to fill air time.

he did say he's cute like twice, and has a bit of a lisp .. hmm...

and I think he means crazy not in like el loco straight jacket needed, but more like fans of a foot ball team - wearing face paint and making war cries and being shirtless in Green Bay in December to show off some painted letters, that sort of thing me thinks ...

and yes, Tucker is just whatever he feels for the day and plays devils advocate a lot *shrugs*

OptionsTrader
11-02-2007, 06:20 PM
Does Carlson support the Iraq Quagmire? I get the feeling he's got an agenda for trying to screw Dr. Paul's campaign. But like someone said - there's only about 3 people watching Tucker and 2 of those are recording for youtube. LOL.

The bottom line is that he thinks something along the lines of "I liked Ron Paul before you did, and I liked him for the right reasons, the rest of you people are groupies after the underground band got famous and I shall scorn you for not being real supporters when I was even if it hurts his public image to make fun of you crazies"

American
11-02-2007, 06:21 PM
The prelude into this story also played a part I think. The guest before this tool was Roger Stone, and he went on about political tactics etc...

Talk nice about the guy before you go in for the kill crap. I guess this was Nixons advice. Which is exactly what Steinfag did, he wrote a good article only to end it with of course he wont win for this this and this reason.

werdd
11-02-2007, 06:22 PM
thx for youtube. at least that one was funny/amusing, that guy was genuinely responding by what he thought, no holds barred - so many of the talking heads are just that, talking heads, no real personality behind them, you never get the sense they are a real person, just there to mouth out their assigned talking points to fill air time.

he did say he's cute like twice, and has a bit of a lisp .. hmm...

and I think he means crazy not in like el loco straight jacket needed, but more like fans of a foot ball team - wearing face paint and making war cries and being shirtless in Green Bay in December to show off some painted letters, that sort of thing me thinks ...

and yes, Tucker is just whatever he feels for the day and plays devils advocate a lot *shrugs*

he called him cute, and adorable, his sexual preference must be affecting his journalism abilities.

werdd
11-02-2007, 06:22 PM
The bottom line is that he thinks something along the lines of "I liked Ron Paul before you did, and I liked him for the right reasons, the rest of you people are groupies after the underground band got famous and I shall scorn you for not being real supporters when I was even if it hurts his public image to make fun of you crazies"

exactly, hes the emo kid that gets all mad when everyone starts listening to his band, and then hates his old favorite band :)

Throwback280s
11-02-2007, 06:23 PM
Right, you cant even post a freakin link right and you say he is CFR....

The tin foil hat section is in the other board, this is grassroots section. moron

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/klein/article/0,9565,490843,00.html

The forum must be using an older version of VBulletin's hyperlink system because the system is quite different from another VB forum I visit. It works now anyway.

Calling people names is simply asinine and childish. The fact that Joe Klein is a CFR member is not some kind of conspiracy. Rather, the typical globalist/socialist/elitist sentiment that's rampant in the group's membership is indicative of his behavior.

Use some common sense next time.

r3volution
11-02-2007, 06:25 PM
he said Ron was nerdy and cute ,and his supporters were crazy / nerdy and ugly . he really needs to look in a mirror . he looks like some1 that got rejected from that 70s show .

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 06:25 PM
OK , that guy was a douche but i don't see why any of you are mad at tucker ..

Same here. Tucker didn't disrespek Paul, that was Stein. And it's funny for Stein to say that Paul is a "horrible" speaker when he did a shitty job himself.

Drknows
11-02-2007, 06:26 PM
some of you guys act like you didn't expect this.

Let me see we have a fund raiser on V day. Everyone wanted to show the media how much we could raise on V day.

Did you think that little detail would slip pass everyone? Did you think they would just ignore that and go hot damn Ron Paul raised a TON of money!!!

Just roll with the punches because im sure after v day is over we will get more hit pieces. Actually i bet every media outlet brings it up if we do raise over a million.

So you might as well embrace whatever they label us.

American
11-02-2007, 06:27 PM
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/klein/article/0,9565,490843,00.html

The forum must be using an older version of VBulletin's hyperlink system because the system is quite different from another VB forum I visit. It works now anyway.

Calling people names is simply asinine and childish. The fact that Joe Klein is a CFR member is not some kind of conspiracy. Rather, the typical globalist/socialist/elitist sentiment that's rampant in the group's membership is indicative of his behavior.

Use some common sense next time.


Thats groovy man, but who is Joe Klein?

This guy is Joel Stein......oops, ....:eek:

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/stein/article/0,9565,494014,00.html

the name calling was uncalled for, thanks for the CFR tip....;)

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 06:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgkZHD4pbs


Now up.


Thanks, btw!

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 06:28 PM
some of you guys act like you didn't expect this.

Let me see we have a fund raiser on V day. Everyone wanted to show the media how much we could raise on V day.

Did you think that little detail would slip pass everyone? Did you think they would just ignore that and go hot damn Ron Paul raised a TON of money!!!

Just roll with the punches because im sure after v day is over we will get more hit pieces. Actually i bet every media outlet brings it up if we do raise over a million.

So you might as well embrace whatever they label us.

What else is new?

me3
11-02-2007, 06:28 PM
I thought this was a decent segment. Some folks like American better be ready to deal with the full bombardment without having an aneurysm when Dr. Paul goes mainstream and gets attacked for EVERYTHING.

Decent segment, happy to see Tucker introduce Dr. Paul properly, and to build his name recognition. My only criticism is that no one mentioned the Constitution. But name recognition continues to be our biggest hurdle, and this could have been much worse. They talked about overzealous followers, not character or position flaws of Dr. Paul.

werdd
11-02-2007, 06:40 PM
thejoelstein@yahoo.com email bombs away :O

Give me liberty
11-02-2007, 06:42 PM
to me that was a hit attack on ron paul, i didnt see any other repoters

saying to hillary or even to mike huck guy that his suppoters are nerdy or crazy

dont worry guys if we the people and ron wins NH and Calif Joel Stein is going to be crying.

and btw this was a HIT PIECE on ron paul

dircha
11-02-2007, 06:44 PM
To all you miserable Tucker fans:

I TOLD YOU SO.

Tucker can go #@$! himself.

And everyone on here with a day off this weekend had better be out handing slim jims at least one of the days. We can't trust anyone but ourselves. No one is going to carry water for us. If we want to have ANY chance whatsoever - and truth be told we have very little chance now - WE have to take control, and that means feet on the street no less than 1 day a week.

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 06:45 PM
Tucker didn't dis Paul, chill.

saku39
11-02-2007, 06:46 PM
I just donated money.

Everytime I see a crappy article or piece like this on TV, I get mad and then go donate more money.

ChooseLiberty
11-02-2007, 06:47 PM
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA.



I just donated money.

Everytime I see a crappy article or piece like this on TV, I get mad and then go donate more money.

dircha
11-02-2007, 06:47 PM
Tucker didn't dis Paul, chill.

Whose program was that schmuck on?

Or should I say: Which schmuck's program was that schmuck on?

Oh, right, our good old "friend" Tucker.

He may as well as have used his program as a platform for Giuliani himself to openly bash and demean Ron Paul.

Adamsa
11-02-2007, 06:47 PM
As long as they keep doing specials on Ron, I'm happy with them really.

American
11-02-2007, 06:48 PM
Turns out Stein has a wiki page.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Stein

Someone write a review would ya?

Dlynne
11-02-2007, 06:50 PM
Whoa, people.

This was not as bad as most of you think. Joel Stein isn't familiar with the kind of philosophies that Ron Paul and his supporters stand for, and most people aren't, actually. When you are used to the welfare state, and central planning, ideas of true liberty and freedom take getting used to.

So what if he thinks we are nerds. I like what the other poster wrote, "I rather be a nerd in a free society, than a hispter living in chains," or something like that. It is up to show them what is cool, and Paul's ideas are definitely cool. The word is getting out there.

me3
11-02-2007, 06:52 PM
thejoelstein@yahoo.com email bombs away :O
No need for email bombs. Get out and hand out some slim Jims. Be productive.

If you have time to email media members, you have time to join the Iowa email campaign. PM me for details.

Alabama Supporter
11-02-2007, 06:53 PM
You all are acting CRAZY. Geez, everyone is not going to drink the koolaid. You don't have to harass the guy for writing a crappy article. As a matter of fact, alot of people are likely to be drawn in from his article.

Zack
11-02-2007, 06:56 PM
I agree that Tucker didn't attack Paul. Although, the other guy clearly did, and was almost certainly being intentionally misleading more than he was ignorant. Tucker himself seemed pretty clueless on the grassroots campaign. I think he actually thought he was getting a sincere explanation from that guy, which is a shame. Tucker should have done, at least a mininal amount of research first.

I've seen a few people from the media reference the Nov 5th fundraiser, and it's always used as an example of, not just the fringe nature of the campaign, but... the fringe of the fringe. So extreme that one of the only libertarians on TV laughs at it.

I just hope it makes a good pile of money and is able to remain a comedic footnote and not get the media attention it was designed to get, cause the attention wouldn't be positive. That's just not the way people think.

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 06:58 PM
This just gave Stein some air-time to do some trash talk. Stein was just doing some name calling and is acting juvenile at best. Not only that he has the speaking skills of a 19 year old college drop out.

Just see this as encouragement. This hit piece only adds fuel to the fire, as it just drives us to push even harder. If what he said angers you so much, then donate, haha. :D

me3
11-02-2007, 06:59 PM
That sounds like something that Ron Paul would do.

Donate when you are angry. Donate until you are happy or maxed out! :D

Flirple
11-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Folks, we need to toughen our skin! Responding with a bunch of emotionally fueled hostile emails is going to help correct his stereotype of us how?

All press is good press but if you don't like stories like this then take the cheap shots as both flattery and as motivation to maybe behave a bit more civilly when posting comments on line (lay off the profanity, Inside Job, zionist, etc. talk for crying out loud) and when at rallies and sign wavings.

ladyliberty
11-02-2007, 07:05 PM
If what he said angers you so much, then donate, haha. :D

The best REVENGE is to get Ron Paul the Presidency! :D

IGNORE the bad PR and donate your "mad money" to the campaign!!! :mad::D

paulitics
11-02-2007, 07:06 PM
I agree that Tucker didn't attack Paul. Although, the other guy clearly did, and was almost certainly being intentionally misleading more than he was ignorant. Tucker himself seemed pretty clueless on the grassroots campaign. I think he actually thought he was getting a sincere explanation from that guy, which is a shame. Tucker should have done, at least a mininal amount of research first.

I've seen a few people from the media reference the Nov 5th fundraiser, and it's always used as an example of, not just the fringe nature of the campaign, but... the fringe of the fringe. So extreme that one of the only libertarians on TV laughs at it.

I just hope it makes a good pile of money and is able to remain a comedic footnote and not get the media attention it was designed to get, cause the attention wouldn't be positive. That's just not the way people think.

no doubt. Tuckers reaction to this makes me think that this is going to go really badly. "thats even farther out than I even realized".

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 07:10 PM
no doubt. Tuckers reaction to this makes me think that this is going to go really badly. "thats even farther out than I even realized".

HOPEFULLY Tucker will do his research...

mavtek
11-02-2007, 07:10 PM
Didn't seem that bad to me, I'm certainly not all that worried about it. We're not yet competing in the General election.

American
11-02-2007, 07:13 PM
For me its real simple, if they want to know about the Ron Paul Revolution then maybe they should ask one is his supporters.

This was a hit piece to marginalize RP, its bullshit

ronpaulfan
11-02-2007, 07:14 PM
The coverage wasn't that bad. I still hate Tucker.

paulitics
11-02-2007, 07:14 PM
HOPEFULLY Tucker will do his research...

Tucker is the most libertarian of any pundit. I think he was off guard, but knew who Guy Falkes was.

Naraku
11-02-2007, 07:22 PM
I disagree. John Edwards haircut, DeanScream, Alexander flannel shirts,on and on.

You can disagree, but everything you just said is bullshit. Edwards wasn't voted against for his haircut and the Dean scream came after he already lost.

History shows that attacking candidates on anything but policy never hurts the candidate that's attacked.

Attacking a candidate's supporters is an even bigger no-no.

Karsten
11-02-2007, 07:28 PM
Who IS Guy Fawks?

Van Damme
11-02-2007, 07:31 PM
Aye... If we can't get Tucker to see the Nov. 5th fund raiser for what it really is (a benign fund raiser) then there really is little hope for the rest of the pundits.

undergroundrr
11-02-2007, 07:38 PM
I finally saw this. How can people get so upset?

Yes there are enemies in the press. See the latest at Hotair.com. But Stein is simply coming to terms with a phenomenon he didn't even know could exist. In his article and this interview, Stein has cast himself as a really shallow pop culture observer, not a political reporter. That's about as good as you're going to get from Time these days.

He seemed as charmed as he was confused at the whole thing. It was ultimately pretty juvenile, but sorry, this is not a damaging hit piece. The insult is to his readership, not to Paul.

Ridiculous
11-02-2007, 07:40 PM
Who IS Guy Fawks?

The actual historical figure that V for Vendetta is loosely based on.

"Remember the the 5th of November" the header on the 5th site is from a famous poem about a plot to blow up the English parliament that Fawkes was involved with. You can wikipedia his name. Fawkes was a Catholic rebel. The V character was an anarchist.

People on here that are for the association are on Guy Fawkes side. They think he and the V character were heroes....

The date of the 5th was such a bad idea by the way. The media is going to attack the shit out of the association that Paul supporters have made with Fawkes on the 5th, especially if it does well. Look at the reaction Tucker had and he seems sort of fond of Paul, others will use it as ammunition against the campaign, they are already starting to.

Adamsa
11-02-2007, 07:42 PM
The date of the 5th was such a bad idea by the way. The media is going to attack the shit out of it especially if it does well.

Good thing about Ron though is that they even largely ignore the bad things about him (as well as the good things), if it does really well, I can't see a massive attack.

Naraku
11-02-2007, 07:53 PM
Look at the reaction Tucker had and he seems sort of fond of Paul, others will use it as ammunition against the campaign, they are already starting to.

I just don't think that's true. I think you belittle the mainstream media too much. They'll be talking more about the exorbitant amount of funds raised rather than any possible association with anarchists and most viewers won't really take too much stock in it.

transistor
11-02-2007, 07:56 PM
fuck you tucker

Ridiculous
11-02-2007, 07:56 PM
I just don't think that's true. I think you belittle the mainstream media too much. They'll be talking more about the exorbitant amount of funds raised rather than any possible association with anarchists and most viewers won't really take too much stock in it.

They'll take plenty of stock in the association if the 5th does well.... I mean I hope Paul gets some money. But the press is going use this association to attack Paul. This isn't the first time that this has been done in the past few days...

me3
11-02-2007, 07:59 PM
They'll take plenty of stock in the association if the 5th does well.... I mean I hope Paul gets some money. But the press is going use this association to attack Paul. This isn't the first time that this has been done in the past few days...
Yeah, but who cares? Dr. Paul needs the money to win offline.

Those glossy mailers are gold. They need more cash for offices, and mailouts like that. So what if they complain about 11/5 for a day or two. Billary or Judy will do something to get them all lathered up and the heat off the grassroots.

If it even becomes an issue in the first place...

bolidew
11-02-2007, 08:02 PM
In politics, more $$ = more respect.

Nash
11-02-2007, 08:05 PM
You can disagree, but everything you just said is bullshit. Edwards wasn't voted against for his haircut and the Dean scream came after he already lost.

History shows that attacking candidates on anything but policy never hurts the candidate that's attacked.

Attacking a candidate's supporters is an even bigger no-no.

I'm not putting the dirty tricks past these guys but they ARE attacking US and we are playing right into their hands with some of the things that some of us are doing.

They are realizing that RP is hard to attack. He's just too nice and his voting record is impeccable.

We are both his greatest strength and his greatest weakness.

Speak out when we disagree with them, but attacking them back is not going to do us any good. Don't go to those websites that bash us. Just ignore them. When the MSM puts out a relatively balanced piece then go ahead and back it up with positive comments. If something is inaccurate go ahead and correct them but don't attack these people personally it just sets us back.

me3
11-02-2007, 08:07 PM
Speak out when we disagree with them, but attacking them back is not going to do us any good. Don't go to those websites that bash us. Just ignore them. When the MSM puts out a relatively balanced piece then go ahead and back it up with positive comments. If something is inaccurate go ahead and correct them but don't attack these people personally it just sets us back.
Quoted for truth.

If anything, we should be contacting and emailing the positive press before the negative. We need more positive press, not more opinions that we're net bullies or fringe lunatics.

nullvalu
11-02-2007, 08:11 PM
Ok I just watched it and I don't think it's as bad as everyone made it out to be. So what if we're nerdy because we're interested in "fiscal stuff"..

I didn't like tho at the end he said "theres a lot of freaks out there".

BUT - I think the part people are missing - the reason Tucker acted all crazy about the Guy Fawkes day thing was because he was trying to dodge Joels accusation that he's one of the freaks.. (Ron Paul Supporters) Tucker said "whoah" because Joel called his supporters freaks.

Watch it again..

God I can't believe everyone's getting all worked up and wants to call this guy's home phone and send him irrate emails over this. Get a grip guys..

paulitics
11-02-2007, 08:13 PM
We should not be angry, maybe inform them that Nov 5th is not Guy Falkes day, it is a broad fundraising day and people xhose to donate how they like.

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 08:15 PM
We should not be angry, maybe inform them that Nov 5th is not Guy Falkes day, it is a broad fundraising day and people xhose to donate how they like.

Nov 5th is Guy Fawkes day. But the fundraiser is/was loosely themed around the movie "V for Vendetta."

Ridiculous
11-02-2007, 08:16 PM
We should not be angry, maybe inform them that Nov 5th is not Guy Falkes day, it is a broad fundraising day and people xhose to donate how they like.

The Guy Fawkes reference is beyond obvious, it says "Remember the 5th of November" on the header of the 5th website.


This is the Guy Fawkes Day poem:

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.

Educated people are going to make the association with Guy Fawkes...

NinjaPirate
11-02-2007, 08:19 PM
The Guy Fawkes reference is beyond obvious, it says "Remember the 5th of November" on the header of the 5th website.


This is the Guy Fawkes Day poem:

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.

Educated people are going to make the association with Guy Fawkes...

Yeah, most people who rely on the MSM for info are REAL educated. Heh... :rolleyes:

stones88
11-02-2007, 08:21 PM
it wasn't bad. the only thing i'd disagree with is ron isn't horrible speaker. he has his good and bad days, but he's not horrible overall.

you guys need to calm down. getting enraged over anything that was said is just pathetic. tucker has given ron a megaphone many times. sending mass emails whining about the coverage only confirms that the supporters are badgering lunatics.

Ridiculous
11-02-2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah, most people who rely on the MSM for info are REAL educated. Heh... :rolleyes:

I am not talking about the people who rely on the MSM, I am talking about the pundits.

paulitics
11-02-2007, 08:24 PM
The Guy Fawkes reference is beyond obvious, it says "Remember the 5th of November" on the header of the 5th website.


This is the Guy Fawkes Day poem:

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.

Educated people are going to make the association with Guy Fawkes...

I still think we can accomplish both, a great fundraising day, and avoid 75% of the upcoming trainwreck if we stop marketing this as predominately Guy Falkes day. I don't want to throw in the towel yet. Alot of this can be averted.

Naraku
11-02-2007, 08:33 PM
They'll take plenty of stock in the association if the 5th does well.... I mean I hope Paul gets some money. But the press is going use this association to attack Paul.

So it's a conspiracy? :rolleyes: They're all out to get Ron Paul? I can believe a guy like Hannity using this against him, but I think most people are either favorable enough of him or not big enough assholes to make that kind of criticism.

In fact, a controversial date may be even better than a politically sound one. Controversy generates a lot more discussion. ;)

There are enough fair-minded people or pro-Paul people in the media to let this get split down and generate a spirited debate. That would be far better coverage than having some mention of "Wow! Look at all that money!"

tmg19103
11-02-2007, 08:33 PM
The Tucker interview was not so bad. Not real good, but not so bad.

I personally have no problem with this Guy Fawkes character, but it was good sense to remove references from the 5th site. This "Guy" plotted to kill an English monarch and a bunch of aristocrats. Did we not fight the soldiers of the decendants of this royalty to win our freedom during the Revolutionary War?

I just don't see it is that big of a deal. If we rasie $2 million THAT will be the story.

"Guy Fawkes appears in the 2002 List of "100 Great Britons" (sponsored by the BBC and voted for by the public), alongside such other greats as David Beckham, Aleister Crowley, Winston Churchill and Johnny Rotten. Cynical Britons are sometimes known to comment that Guy Fawkes was the only man to go to Parliament with honourable intentions."

No doubt Ron Paul has a lot of supporters who are cynical towards the U.S. government (yours included) but that does not mean I'd rather our revolution be a peaceful one.

Tucker is not the end of the world, and neither is Guy Fawkes. I actually think I respect Fawkes more than Tucker.

Duckman
11-02-2007, 08:42 PM
Ok.

A few things...

Call me crazy, but I will go further than others and say this was actually GOOD exposure. Tucker treated Ron Paul very well, I honestly think. Yes, Joel is freaked out by Ron Paul supporters, and doesn't think Ron Paul is interesting (except possibly for non-platonic reasons). Fuck him. But I think even Joel said good things about Ron Paul in this interview, when so many have been 100% negative.

Honestly I see this piece as almost a subdued warning about where we may be headed as Ron Paul supporters. I think we need to think hard about the fact that they DID make it seem that being a supporter of Guy Fawkes (and the anarchism implication) was a bit more extreme than even 9/11 truth.

I don't really care what people interally believe, but EXTERNALLY we need to be civil and understand that we are not going to be able to broadcast whatever message we want and expect to not freak out a good deal of society. Some people who support Ron Paul originally got exposed to libertarian ideas because of the drug war, and they understand that if we tried to win the drug war by showing society alot of people doing alot of drugs it would be counterproductive.

It takes a majority to be elected President, and we all know the majority are squares.

stones88
11-02-2007, 08:42 PM
The Tucker interview was not so bad. Not real good, but not so bad.

I personally have no problem with this Guy Fawkes character, but it was good sense to remove references from the 5th site. This "Guy" plotted to kill an English monarch and a bunch of aristocrats. Did we not fight the soldiers of the decendants of this royalty to win our freedom during the Revolutionary War?

I just don't see it is that big of a deal. If we rasie $2 million THAT will be the story.

"Guy Fawkes appears in the 2002 List of "100 Great Britons" (sponsored by the BBC and voted for by the public), alongside such other greats as David Beckham, Aleister Crowley, Winston Churchill and Johnny Rotten. Cynical Britons are sometimes known to comment that Guy Fawkes was the only man to go to Parliament with honourable intentions."

No doubt Ron Paul has a lot of supporters who are cynical towards the U.S. government (yours included) but that does not mean I'd rather our revolution be a peaceful one.

Tucker is not the end of the world, and neither is Guy Fawkes. I actually think I respect Fawkes more than Tucker.


:eek: You respect a guy who planned to commit mass murder?

Fawkes is a British icon, so what? Hitler is a German icon. Stalin is a Russian, erh um Soviet icon.

Naraku
11-02-2007, 08:44 PM
Yeah, well apparently in the UK Guy Fawkes is a hero among anarchists and communists.

Of course, we live in the U.S. where most people don't even know about Guy Fawkes day, let alone make any connection to anarchists and communists. I also seriously doubt you're gonna have CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News making a big deal about the date if it's successful. I mean, if there are $2 million raised in that day, they'll be talking about that and not any bogus connections.

Like I said, only Paul's critics will really make the connection a big deal. A lot of people are more likely to make the V for Vendetta connection. :p The worse criticism that can come out of that is everyone being nerds, which isn't nearly as bad.


You respect a guy who planned to commit mass murder?

I think the idea of killing every last politician is actually something that would resonate with voters. :D

tmg19103
11-02-2007, 08:51 PM
:eek: You respect a guy who planned to commit mass murder?

Fawkes is a British icon, so what? Hitler is a German icon. Stalin is a Russian, erh um Soviet icon.

I don't look at him as a mass murderer. I look at him as a revolutionary. By todays standards I guess he would be a terrorist - but then, a U.S. citizen standing up against the government in this day and age could be called a terrorist.

In the 1600's the British monarchy treated their people not much better than Hitler or Stalin did their people. While they did not systematically murder them, they pretty much starved them and left them to live in squalor. Would you have a problem with someone blowing up Hitler and his henchman - as was tried?

I'm just saying this Guy Fawkes character was not going about trying to kill saints. The English rulers of the time were pretty much tyrants.

That said, and as i said, it was best to remove the references from the 5th site.

stones88
11-02-2007, 08:54 PM
I think the idea of killing every last politician is actually something that would resonate with voters. :D

It's fine to joke about, but some people here are anarchists and do think the end justifies the means. And these people, along with the "truthers" are why Ron and we, the other (sane) supporters, are pigeonholed as crazy, batty, freaks.

paulitics
11-02-2007, 08:58 PM
I also seriously doubt you're gonna have CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News making a big deal about the date if it's successful.

I think that is a pretty naive assumption considering that a) they are looking for opportunities to discredit us and this comes on a silver platter 2) They are already doing it before 1.00 is raised. when 3 million is raised, they will have to answer the question, why?

Mark
11-02-2007, 09:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgkZHD4pbs


Now up.

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repost.. lots of pages.. hard to find.. thanks ChooseLiberty


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izgkZHD4pbs


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Naraku
11-02-2007, 09:22 PM
I think that is a pretty naive assumption considering that a) they are looking for opportunities to discredit us and this comes on a silver platter

That's conspiratorial nonsense. Most trepidation in the mainstream media is due to the fact that he is the black sheep of the group not because they have an agenda against him.

There are some who do have an agenda, but they are not the majority.

TooConservative
11-03-2007, 06:30 PM
I just noticed the guy from Time who wrote the article said, kind of under his breath while Tucker was talking over him, "Plus, he's adorable" in reference to Ron Paul's popularity.

Yeah, the good doctor is pretty adorable in his quiet dignified way.

Psyclone
11-03-2007, 07:18 PM
I'm the guy with the three corner hat and the bell who was outside the Ames rally that he gives as the prime example of a crazy/nerdy Ron Paul supporter. I actually thought my mental health was within acceptable limits, but now I'm not so sure. Regardless, the mentally ill need a president too.